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Dang, okay:/ I don't feel that bad then. I was going to be mad if Jack or Epi was your role and not CCing you there.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:37 pm Yes the spider girl role was removed and it was just a fake claim. Same with ghost spider. The scion was arbitrarily given to G-Man and we were told of that so the fake claim was viable.
Agreed:/Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:35 amI rly don't like big games I think lolMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:30 ampretty sureEsooa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:29 amlol really?
it doesn't happen much, we don't have games that last long enough generally
it's not a matter of not being able to it's a matter of not needing to lol
Dude, you literally are claiming an un-cc'd role that has to exist. wtf?MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:13 am I think like Seanzie's post there TMIs me town because I don't see how he can talk like that and not just be like "or ur mafia" or whatever.
Sorry if wrong.
You made a post to Epi asking him to be gentle with me because you want me to play here again, but to be honest, I am fine with Epi's behavior. Pretty sure he is a wolf trying to get me as a misyeet, but even if he is town, at least he is trying. If I'm not going to play here again, it would be because of people being apathetic, and not trying (I understand if you are busy, or just can't keep up [I'd be a hippocrite if I was upset at you because of that] but that isn't what it sounds like). Especially town being apathetic, that is really annoying to play with.
What is your reason for suspecting me? Just because I didn't know your claim? Even in a world where I was wolf, that would also need to have 2-3 other wolves also not know your claim for that to make sense as a reason to scumread me.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 1:44 am @Syn at this point you have me, Jack and Epi all fine with shooting Seanzie. Just shoot him please. We need to move past this.
Okay, fair. Sorry I missed that. I've been stressed thin lately.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 1:39 amMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:46 pm Okay I'm Spider-Girl. I gave the scion to G-Man because I figured he was the least likely to be killed by the mafia and would claim before he got chopped so he could pass it on. If he hasn't passed it away he's probably just outed mafia.
If you don't want to give the information for my benefit, give it for Syn's, because he LEGIT wasn't here.
When? today? or when Gman died? I'm literally asking because I don't know and this is helpful information to try to figure out Jack.
When? Can you quote this? Your argument is that if you were wolf, Mac would be dead by now. When did Mac say he gave the scion to Gman?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 1:29 amCause Mac said so?Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 1:29 amJack, this shows that you knew the scion was Benji, but not that Mac gave it to GMan. How did you know (as you claim to know) that Mac gave it to GMan?
Jack, this shows that you knew the scion was Benji, but not that Mac gave it to GMan. How did you know (as you claim to know) that Mac gave it to GMan?
There is a scum role that can "poison" someone, which causes votes to carry day after day. In one of the first few posts by LC, all the vote counts are quoted (inside a spoiler). You can count the number of votes that ended on each person each day. LordQuas voted me last night, so if I was poisoned before then, I would have one "secret" vote one me currently. Lots of people have voted Jack, so if he is town and got poisoned, he could have lots of votes. No EoD has happened with Epi having any votes.Syn wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:56 amwhat's the poison vote thingSeanzie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:55 am Jack mentioned the poison thing, and I didn't account for that. I have potentially 1 poison vote on me. Jack has a lot of poison votes on him. Epi has no poison votes on him though, so I'd be happy to go against Epi at EoD with 2 votes on me and 1 (syn's, so that there is ) on Epi. (I am fairly certain Jack and Epi are both wolves here).
can i verify this anywhere
Yup, which is why the counterwagon to me should ONLY include Syn's vote, and the wagon on me should include at most 3 votes.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:37 amNegatory. Mafia has vote manipulation, too.
Ehh, fuck it, I'm manga spider man. I can remove 3 votes from myself (and others), and as such there are ways I can clear myself via the vote tonight.
Guillotine has claimed half the roles on the board. I'm not convinced of Guillo's alignment yet (I lean town on him, but honestly there aren't that many town slots left so idk how that works with Mac and Esooa), but this one claim in a vaccum is not telling Guillo's whole story.Syn wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:21 amis this Guillotine claiming Assassin when Nutella just died and flipped Assassin?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:17 amIf you wanna die on this hill, maybe don’t take the rest of us with you, eh?Syn wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:14 am#2Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:12 amNot before Seanzie, tiger.Syn wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:12 amclaim plsJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:10 am I thought about fake ccing Spiderham and I’m glad I didn’t.
This’ll do more to prove my townieness than a claim will anyway.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2015&start=8000#p727480
I'm going to claim last, and if after my claim you have any doubt about me, shoot me immediately.
Tell me how you drove a nail into Grogu's coffin? Please explain. Also explain how you knew Chard was town? Did you not believe KZA? Why not? What was your thought pattern? Please explain how what you did was not just TMI?Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:00 amI didn't catch Grogu.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:56 pm Epi is refusing to explain how he "caught" grogu, and is trying to shade me, for what? Not having time to respond both to him and hunt? Sure, if Epi keeps pressuring me to respond, my only choices are to ignore him or not actually do anything productive.
Most of the people who died last night had me as town. Telling that Epi is jumping on me like this now.
Chardonnay did and I caught hell for getting people to listen to Chardonnay, also from civilians who died.
I drove a nail in Grogu's webby coffin.
Your defense here reeks of someone who KNOWS I'm civilian but is struggling to get out of that suspicion via legitimate means.
You are mafia.
Your most compelling reason for you being a civilian is that people who died called you good? Seriously?
What have you accomplished in the thread?
If there are no soup kills with one wolf, then yes, we should do this.Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:59 pm2 to 3 wolves leftMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:55 pmthe soup kill is literally anticlaimSyn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:54 pmif the vote screenshots include vote power changes, we can do vote count analysisMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:52 pmI don't understand what the question is tbh.
and if soup kills aren't impacted by people claiming, then I call bullshit on the people being cagey when we're effectively at LYLO
everyone who died did so with the most votes so there's no evidence of vote manip
wolves already had their mega soup kills
if I shoot a wolf
and we chop a wolf, and that's not game over
there's no soup kill left, only the assigned kill
so someone tell me why I shouldn't just force everyone to claim their role right this very second
Because the tradeoff for soup is that two wolves need to not use their NA's right, can that happen with only one wolf?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:58 pmI don’t see why not.
But only at night, which makes claiming strong at lylo
I fkn' did this already. Read my first post to Syn (as Epi pointed out, sure it was in reply to Mac, but it was in regards to Syn's original questions)Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:57 pm I want Seanzie to tell us who the wolves are if not him.
Tell me about how you "caught" Grogu? What were your thoughts there? Spell it out to me. Please. In detail. It should clear you if you show your process, right?Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:47 pmThe irony is that I have over twice your post and have caught two mafia members. What have you accomplished?Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:41 pmIf I'm wrong about you having done nothing, I'll listen to contrary evidence, so feel free to present it. I don't remember you doing anything of note, aside from popping into the thread and complaining about how you don't have time to play. You are PoE'd imo.Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:33 pmTwo things:Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:28 pmDude, I literally answered that in my original post to Syn, before you even asked me. You aren't even bothering to read my posts at this point, which is a bad look from someone who "apparently" suspects me.Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:26 pmI see you're having a hard time answering my question, "Who is bad?"Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:24 pmThere were 4 roles removed. I severely doubt that LC would remove 3 wolves and 1 town, so there are probably either (2 wolf roles removed and 2 town roles removed) or (imo more likely) (1 wolf role removed and 3 town roles removed), meaning that there are 2-3 wolves remaining (unless by some crazy chance we hit the seemer and never figured it out, but I think this is unlikely)Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:20 pm someone real quick sanity check me
there are 30 roles in the OP
there are not 30 players
based on the wolf flips, the missing roles have gotta be from the wolf side and, like, one or two towns, right?
has anyone tabulated a list of confirmed roles in game, and those that have yet to flip?
I have no kept track of roles which must be here.
I'm not reading most of the posts at all, and
I don't give a shit about "bad looks."
But since I have you on the horn, I'll ask about these posts in response to MacDougall (not Syn).
I'll start with me.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:56 pmI am a slanker. hardcore didn't get engaged until like D4, but I feel like I was pretty useful D5.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:38 pmBecause everyone left alive are either me, trolls, slankers or neg uitl
But those that are saying there are only 1 or 2 wolves alive are pretty much guaranteed to be flat out wrong. There are probably 3, possibly 2 (there were 8 wolves in the original setup, we have 4 wolves flipped. It seems likely when the game went from 30 players down to 26, at least one wolf was removed. Less likely but possible, two wolves were removed. The only possible way that there is only 1 wolf left is if one of the people we voted was the seemer, but that seems extremely unlikely at this point. Much more likely is that we haven't flipped the seemer, in which case there are either 3 wolves left (if 3 town roles were removed, and 1 wolf role was removed) or less likely 2 wolves left (if 2 town roles were removed and 2 wolf roles were removed).
We should check Mac's story, but if that is un-countered, I feel good about it. I do remember talk of the scion moving around, so that role should be here.
Everyone seems to have Esooa in their PoE, which makes me worry about that.
Guillo has been super intense and Nutella seemed to think they were outed based on their night post two nights ago, but I don't see it, and Guillo pushed pretty hard on Grogu earlier than everyone else did. Maybe distancing, maybe just guillo seeing wolves where it took the rest of us longer to see.
Jack has been a bit meh. He looked good in his post spurt yesterday, pushing for a Grogu yeet, but this was after I think most of town was already there, so idk how much credit that is worth.
Epi has done nothing, isn't caught up. He is scumreading me hard. Idk if it is genuine or not, probably not at this point just considering the density of wolves.
Is that everyone? wow, okay, game small now.
So, three wolves there, if I had to guess, I'd say {Esooa, Epi, Jack}.
If I would have been the first to answer about hero shooting, I would have said Esooa, trusting some fallen camrades but at this point idk, I'm scared because of how many people are intersecting on Esooa.
Talk to me about me.
"Epi has done nothing, isn't caught up."
Would you say I had a hand in the Michelle lynch?
Would you say I had a hand in the Grogu lynch?
If I'm wrong about you having done nothing, I'll listen to contrary evidence, so feel free to present it. I don't remember you doing anything of note, aside from popping into the thread and complaining about how you don't have time to play. You are PoE'd imo.Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:33 pmTwo things:Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:28 pmDude, I literally answered that in my original post to Syn, before you even asked me. You aren't even bothering to read my posts at this point, which is a bad look from someone who "apparently" suspects me.Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:26 pmI see you're having a hard time answering my question, "Who is bad?"Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:24 pmThere were 4 roles removed. I severely doubt that LC would remove 3 wolves and 1 town, so there are probably either (2 wolf roles removed and 2 town roles removed) or (imo more likely) (1 wolf role removed and 3 town roles removed), meaning that there are 2-3 wolves remaining (unless by some crazy chance we hit the seemer and never figured it out, but I think this is unlikely)Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:20 pm someone real quick sanity check me
there are 30 roles in the OP
there are not 30 players
based on the wolf flips, the missing roles have gotta be from the wolf side and, like, one or two towns, right?
has anyone tabulated a list of confirmed roles in game, and those that have yet to flip?
I have no kept track of roles which must be here.
I'm not reading most of the posts at all, and
I don't give a shit about "bad looks."
But since I have you on the horn, I'll ask about these posts in response to MacDougall (not Syn).
I'll start with me.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:56 pmI am a slanker. hardcore didn't get engaged until like D4, but I feel like I was pretty useful D5.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:38 pmBecause everyone left alive are either me, trolls, slankers or neg uitl
But those that are saying there are only 1 or 2 wolves alive are pretty much guaranteed to be flat out wrong. There are probably 3, possibly 2 (there were 8 wolves in the original setup, we have 4 wolves flipped. It seems likely when the game went from 30 players down to 26, at least one wolf was removed. Less likely but possible, two wolves were removed. The only possible way that there is only 1 wolf left is if one of the people we voted was the seemer, but that seems extremely unlikely at this point. Much more likely is that we haven't flipped the seemer, in which case there are either 3 wolves left (if 3 town roles were removed, and 1 wolf role was removed) or less likely 2 wolves left (if 2 town roles were removed and 2 wolf roles were removed).
We should check Mac's story, but if that is un-countered, I feel good about it. I do remember talk of the scion moving around, so that role should be here.
Everyone seems to have Esooa in their PoE, which makes me worry about that.
Guillo has been super intense and Nutella seemed to think they were outed based on their night post two nights ago, but I don't see it, and Guillo pushed pretty hard on Grogu earlier than everyone else did. Maybe distancing, maybe just guillo seeing wolves where it took the rest of us longer to see.
Jack has been a bit meh. He looked good in his post spurt yesterday, pushing for a Grogu yeet, but this was after I think most of town was already there, so idk how much credit that is worth.
Epi has done nothing, isn't caught up. He is scumreading me hard. Idk if it is genuine or not, probably not at this point just considering the density of wolves.
Is that everyone? wow, okay, game small now.
So, three wolves there, if I had to guess, I'd say {Esooa, Epi, Jack}.
If I would have been the first to answer about hero shooting, I would have said Esooa, trusting some fallen camrades but at this point idk, I'm scared because of how many people are intersecting on Esooa.
Talk to me about me.
"Epi has done nothing, isn't caught up."
Would you say I had a hand in the Michelle lynch?
Would you say I had a hand in the Grogu lynch?
Dude, I literally answered that in my original post to Syn, before you even asked me. You aren't even bothering to read my posts at this point, which is a bad look from someone who "apparently" suspects me.Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:26 pmI see you're having a hard time answering my question, "Who is bad?"Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:24 pmThere were 4 roles removed. I severely doubt that LC would remove 3 wolves and 1 town, so there are probably either (2 wolf roles removed and 2 town roles removed) or (imo more likely) (1 wolf role removed and 3 town roles removed), meaning that there are 2-3 wolves remaining (unless by some crazy chance we hit the seemer and never figured it out, but I think this is unlikely)Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:20 pm someone real quick sanity check me
there are 30 roles in the OP
there are not 30 players
based on the wolf flips, the missing roles have gotta be from the wolf side and, like, one or two towns, right?
has anyone tabulated a list of confirmed roles in game, and those that have yet to flip?
I have no kept track of roles which must be here.
There were 4 roles removed. I severely doubt that LC would remove 3 wolves and 1 town, so there are probably either (2 wolf roles removed and 2 town roles removed) or (imo more likely) (1 wolf role removed and 3 town roles removed), meaning that there are 2-3 wolves remaining (unless by some crazy chance we hit the seemer and never figured it out, but I think this is unlikely)Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:20 pm someone real quick sanity check me
there are 30 roles in the OP
there are not 30 players
based on the wolf flips, the missing roles have gotta be from the wolf side and, like, one or two towns, right?
has anyone tabulated a list of confirmed roles in game, and those that have yet to flip?
Here is the quote by KZA, where KZA "saw" that Esooa was spiderpig by Daisy's NAs.KZA wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 3:38 pm Esooa is lock clear don't even fucking ask
the actions pretty much line up perfectly for Daisy and Chardonnay's stories
Look guys I'm really sorry I genuinely thought nobody in the game would role block me otherwise I would've said to chop outside Chardonnay + Grogu
"see" as in figure out that Daisy's NA's likely clear Esooa. KZA made a post about it, kind of secretively. I can go find it. It made sense to me, but I also don't know a lot about what happened D1-D3, so I didn't cleer Esooa as much as KZA did (I was kind of tinfoiling KZA, Esooa, Nutella as the remaining wolves, but that universe quickly vanished into the great soup).Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:03 pmso two nights blocked, and two nights where esooa just didn't use her claimed powerSeanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:01 pmHere are Daisy's NA's, blocking Esooa multiple nights.DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:33 am you know what. don't hate me but i need to to see what peeps would say and do now, so I'm sharing everything. I'll be yeeted. no reasons to hold back.
nite 1: MacDougall
nite 2: chardonnay
nite 3: Esooa, DaughterofOmega, Guillotine, KZA, and Nutella
nite 4: esooa
esooa and Nutella should have and could have believed my claim.
Esooa not even thinking I could be telling the truth when I rbed them 2 nites is just.
nutella not even hinting or suggesting or asking who else i rbed nite 3 is just.
no one saying that I didn't actually do anything to grogu. grogu not even saying he didn't get rbed by me. instead trying to play it off like I rbed him nite 4 and oops he didn't even bother to send one . is just.
but nice let's yeet me.
I'm a lying wolf here.
this is my will I guess.
how did KZA "see" this? their power isn't tracking or watching
Here are Daisy's NA's, blocking Esooa multiple nights.DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:33 am you know what. don't hate me but i need to to see what peeps would say and do now, so I'm sharing everything. I'll be yeeted. no reasons to hold back.
nite 1: MacDougall
nite 2: chardonnay
nite 3: Esooa, DaughterofOmega, Guillotine, KZA, and Nutella
nite 4: esooa
esooa and Nutella should have and could have believed my claim.
Esooa not even thinking I could be telling the truth when I rbed them 2 nites is just.
nutella not even hinting or suggesting or asking who else i rbed nite 3 is just.
no one saying that I didn't actually do anything to grogu. grogu not even saying he didn't get rbed by me. instead trying to play it off like I rbed him nite 4 and oops he didn't even bother to send one . is just.
but nice let's yeet me.
I'm a lying wolf here.
this is my will I guess.
Yeah, this checks out. KZA saw it, and I kind of guessed at this as well. If there is no spiderpig CC, Esooa should be clear.
