The Syndicate

Good job town! Ender and I made a few mistakes, but at the end of the day it came down to town just outplaying us!

Thanks for the game hosts/mod!

Oh well, I tried

Come on! Town fookin' rally!!!

If we come back and win this, I'mma legit cry (god cry, not bad cry)!!

Come on town!!

Eff yeah, we're si close to the win! Fingersplints, you got this! Sorry, I know this is stressful and a lot of pressure, but please make the right choice!

Okay, I'm here for like two seconds. I am in the middle of a meeting with students but I wanted to come back before EoD.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:17 pm Through a perverse sense of morality, I feel obligated to stand by my 'locked' vote.

But maybe we should just tie it 2-2 and let it rand for the game.

I would definitely take a tie over the current gamestate, but I really think you should reconsider your perverse morality!

Woo! Hey, that's all I can ask. I'mma be so ecstatic if we pull this off; I have had so many moments where I've been like "eh, this is useless, we're screwed, I should just stop posting" today, so if we manage the win, I'mma be so happy I didn't give in to that feeling and stop posting!

This will work though, right? If I just hold out hope and keep shouting, MR and FS will come to their senses at the last minute for the win?

My WIM is kind of fading because I am in the thread alone, but I will persevere through the shear power of townie providence.

I am town!!!

He shouted to an empty audience.

@fingersplints @Master Radishes I've now provided irrefutable photographic evidence to support my case. I am town, please move you votes!

Another scandalous photo of LC:

On the other hand, here is me in the middle:

Another screenshot taken seconds later:

I hacked into LC's laptop camera and took a screenshot:

@fingersplints @Master Radishes I lay myself bare in the thread for your final judgement. I've got nothing left except the ability to shout

I am town!!!

from the rooftops in hopes that my plea will be heard.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 1:20 pm That sounded less genuine lol

And yet it was. I am phone posting between classes, so all I can really do at this point is plead with you and @Master Radishes to reconsider.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 11:41 am You’re not really swaying me on the parts pertaining to me, but some of your tone does sound genuine so idk

It is genuine because I am town! I was pretty dejected yesterday because my play this game has... not been great, and the time I was free to interact no one was around, so kinda thought we just lost, but I think we still have a shot! I just need you and MR to not give up, because I literally can't do this alone!

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 01, 2022 5:15 am I'm hoping for 1 thing and 1 thing only but we'll keep that under wraps.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:38 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:29 pm I think I might have an idea of what LC is thinking...
You probably are and you're even more lock town for it.

Here. LC clearly fishing for who the Bodyguard is, and unfortunately Porscha kind walked right into his trap. Right as soon as he knew I was his only target:

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:38 pm It's probably just Seanzie and Ender. Everyone else is either inno'd or super towny.

I also wanted to case LC (I know, I said I wasn't going to, but I woke up irked and didn't want to give him the W, so I changed my mind), but I don't have time right now. FS, MR, if you have time, please go back and look at EoD1, it is dripping with wolf-theatre.

Also, look back at D3 (near EoD3). LC was clearly fishing for who the bodyguard was because he needed to know who he could push.

There is a lot more, but I don't have time to flesh it all out, I need to prepare for class. Please look into this though.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:28 am I know I said I'd focus on interactions more so than generic scumhunting, but if I were to a distrustfall sort of exercise, I'd say:

The scummiest thing about Seanzie was his sudden, confident push onto Fingersplints after being MIA from much of the early game - it was an 'easy' target (FS has had a lower presence level and a tone/posting style that could be fairly easily twisted into being painted as 'scummy' imo) that makes sense for a low-activity scum to latch on to as a direction to push in.

And whilst I'm thinking along these lines, perhaps the scummeist thing about Lime Coke has been his propensity to be a weathervane. Like a lot of the time as I read through here, I see him changing direction based on what others have said, e.g. D1 with Falcon (he had him as a TR but changed his mind towards EoD) and D2 with Ender (once Mac came out and confidently claimed he'd solved the game and Ender was scum). Notably on that last one he didn't really push hard/vote Ender, just amplify the shade a bit.

Okay, this is what I mostly want to respond to. If this is the scummiest thing about me, I've got good news for you; I'm about to show you I'm town, because I claim my take on Fingersplints was actually super townie.

I can see what you're saying that FS's lower presence could make her an easy push for a wolf, but if that was the case, I wouldn't have had a well-fleshed out nuanced take on her based on the current gamestate and reads of multiple other people like I did.

In particular, I'd like to ask you to go through her ISO with me, along with a few other key moments so we can talk about how she looked D2, at least from my POV.

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TLDR: D1 FS gave Falcon a townlean. There was threadpressure on Falcon before FS said anything about Falcon. FS didn't commit to Falcon until much later when threadpressure on Falcon continued to build. NAA's Mac/Falcon push made me feel like FS wanted to push Falcon to avoid NAA and others going for Mac. FS's treatment of Porscha re:falcon super pinged me, which made me look at FS super closely. IMO, FS looked like she had town!Falcon picked as the day's miselim due to the aforementioned threadpressure. FS disappearing after I floating the FS/Mac team made me think she was frozen.

Of course, I was way off base, but this push wasn't sudden, I spent like two hours scouring her ISO and looking back through the thread. I did feel confident about it though, that I can't argue with.
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Fingersplint's D1:

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Not much to note here, except for low engagement and a Falcon townlean. (Can't blame her for low engagement without being a hypocrite, but it doesn't count in her favor either).

Reminder: Falcon was an option D1, one of the many people tied. NAA and LC had both voted there in particular.

Now, D2 starts. Before FS joins the thread, NAA makes it clear he hasn't dropped his Falcon scumread overnight, and Mac suggests he wouldn't really fight an elim there. This second point kinda made me wary of Mac, and also kinda made me suspect NAA could've been right on Mac/Falcon and Mac was soft-distancing here, but I'll get back to that later. For now, the important thing to take away from this is that early D2 there was reasonable Falcon pressure.

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Okay, so here FS enters D1, nothing really of note.

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These next two posts are where FS first talks about Falcon D2. In the first one, I didn't like FS's read on Falcon, in particular I think FS was null D1, and so FS scumreading Falcon for saying FS was null felt like "I townleaned you D1, how dare you not accept my pocket?" when I was reading her ISO. The second post is kinda wishy washy and just says "Falcon because of gut feeling", which didn't do much for me.

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fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 5:47 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 9:07 pm Fingers also fairly null...which is less than ideal. I feel I can usually get some form of read on her, so I'll look unto that
I’m not sure I buy this post. Falcon regularly suspects me early on. The only game he didn’t was pandas vs trash pandas where he was mafia and NK me N1
The suspicious part of me says he is talking about me because he knows I’ll expect it but can’t start a genuine suspicion on me yet that town falcon would be able to.
Still reading but take back my town lean of day 1

fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 6:13 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 6:50 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 6:47 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 6:45 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 6:43 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 6:32 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:03 pm Current votes for the record:

Wilgy - 2 (falc, MR)
falcon - 2 (NAA, LC)
MR - 2 (Porscha, Wilgy)
Seanzie - 2 (Ender, Nook)

No other votes
Also MR can literally only be mafia with Falcon here due to VC. If MR was mafia with anyone else then there would not have been a 4 way rand and MR would not have been close. I do not think that is the team.

In fact, I don't believe any wolves were in this rand, for similar reasons.
If it is Falcon/MR why didn't they just vote Seanzie earlier? In actual fact I think MR/Falcon is the least likely team from that rand because MR started the votes on Falcon in a volatile situation.
So you don't think they can be a team at all and I only think that is the only logical team that MR makes sense to be in otherwise he would have just put his vote back on Falcon so he wouldn't be in the rand.
I mean I straight up think MR is town from EOD yesterday.

Falc I don't think is so cleared from that because EOD was kinda quiet. It was Me/LC/MR/A little bit of NAA/Falc from memory.
I don't mind killing Falcon first because it's entirely possible he's mafia from my backread. I am just reading you as much more likely to be mafia than him, and I don't see you paired.
I agree to this that I can’t see falcon or ender paired, and potentially a flip on one could be enlightening about the other.

I’m not sure I see the case on Ender yet; his behaviour seems pretty standard of his town game for me but I can’t actually recall his mafia game either. So I guess I’d prefer falcon of the two based on my gut feelings here based on past play with him.

NAI post:

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Here FS pretty much single-handedly solves the game without quite realizing it, but this is irrelevant to my current point.

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FS well aware of NAA's stance on Falcon/Mac:

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Again, game solved, but not relevant here.

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Here are some posts FS on Mac that are all soft-defense. Honestly, in retrospect reading this now I don't think it looks like FS and Mac are teamed because Mac probably wouldn't want FS to soft defend him, but in the moment these looked teammate compatible.

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FS votes LC

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And then I say that NAA might be right about Falcon/Mac:

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Right after this FS moves to Falcon. At the time this didn't ping me (and she ninja'd me, so I actually felt pretty good about it), but later I thought this was a smoking gun.

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At this point, I'm taking a lot longer typing this up than I planned, and most of the relevant posts are behind us, but I will quote the rest of FS's D2 with some more broad-stroke analysis.

A Falcon anti-team, with wording suggesting she is only considering a Falcon elim today.

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Stuff about NAA, not relevant here.

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A Falcon post, but not really relevant.

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These next few posts are mostly irrelevant to my point, but the "flipped town townread me" post pinged me a little.

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This post was actually the one that completely flipped my mind on FS and investigate her a lot more. I remember as I was re-reading the next morning, I thought Porscha was looking super townie, and then seeing this post just really suggested a strong divide between my worldview and FS's worldview. This, coupled with the fact that I was really starting to think Falcon was town being targeted, while FS was doubling-down on Falcon here, it really really pinged me.

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This next post also really didn't help. It felt like FS was aware that she was focusing too much on Falcon and trying to play it off.

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The scenerio breakdown doesn't really explain WHY those scenerios are being considered, just stating them. Sure they concern FS, but I don't really see either of them as particularly likely, and I didn't understand why FS did.

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At this point, I was pretty well tunneled. The next post looked to me as if FS was saying "Vote Falcon regardless of your read on him, for the info!". I was probably being a bit disingenuous in my interpretation of FS at this point due to conf-bias tbh, but the feeling was there, I really really felt like wolf!FS had town!Falcon in her sights.

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Mostly unrelated posts:

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fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:00 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:58 am I struggle to understand how you can call MR one of the nullest slots in the game in a game that contains Seanzie, Fingersplints et al. If MR is null then everyone is null. MR has produced as much readable content as anyone in the game.
I think I’ve produced a decent amount of content to be accurately read by most.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:03 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:01 am
fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:00 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:58 am I struggle to understand how you can call MR one of the nullest slots in the game in a game that contains Seanzie, Fingersplints et al. If MR is null then everyone is null. MR has produced as much readable content as anyone in the game.
I think I’ve produced a decent amount of content to be accurately read by most.
Sure and I think the evidence indicates that MR has produced more.
Not to nitpick, but I don’t believe post count is an accurate representation of content. Some people post a lot of fluff posts. (I’m not calling out MR for this especially. This is just my general feeling on the topic. I don’t have a problem with anyones posting amount at this point. Again it’s a small game.)

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:11 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:08 am I don't really know what to do about MR with NAA insisting he has perfect the MR read and claims he's town and you strong reading MR as maf
I don’t believe anyone can perfectly read anyone. We are all make mistakes and we are all capable of fooling one another.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:17 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:13 am
fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:11 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:08 am I don't really know what to do about MR with NAA insisting he has perfect the MR read and claims he's town and you strong reading MR as maf
I don’t believe anyone can perfectly read anyone. We are all make mistakes and we are all capable of fooling one another.
I mean ... yeah but I'm relatively new to everybody else here so I don't have as strong of a foundation and am less willing to make super confident reads. my opinions are generally swayable by a good player.

anyway that post is just where i'm standing about MR right now.
Sometimes being new makes you able to see what others have missed due to preformed biased

I actually don’t have a solid opinion on MR yet as a a lot of my opinions on people are contingent on my falcon read. But when I’m in the situation you are in I tend to just trust my own thoughts above all

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:17 am Anyways I’m trying to post and do kid stuff, so gonna focus on kids and be back later if anyone is still around

FS's final post of D2, again calling for Falcon, but from my POV it didn't really answer Mac's question.

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Shortly after this I woke up and called out a Mac/Fingersplints team, and FS didn't post again the entire day, which just made me think I was right and she was frozen.

While FS was the person I was tunneling, I thought of Mac/FS because I had a hunch that perhaps FS's push on Falcon had to do with NAA's read. In particular, it felt like maybe with NAA pushing Mac/Falcon and me suggesting that NAA might be right, that made wolf!FS worry that the thread might come down on a Mac/Falcon wagon/cw, and so tried to push the thread towards Falcon rather than Mac. Of course, all this is wrong in hindsight, but I don't think it was a crazy world to consider.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:53 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:34 am but I just sat down with my coffee
Yikes now the dreaded “coffee tell”

I'm literally from MafC where the coffee-tell is from, it isn't a tell for anyone except Dizzy:P

Back to work.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:28 am I get you. I’m saying it’s a bit unfair. Mafia sucks sometimes

Tell me about it.

Anyways, I am actually feeling a bit energized about this; I woke up before my alarm and read the thread and got all cranky because it looked like y'all had made up your minds while I wasn't around, but I just sat down with my coffee, and am kinda in a "Nah, not gonna let that happen" mood, so I'm kinda full of WIM right now.

As such, I'm going to try to convince you and MR to change your minds. In particular, I know MR mentioned a lot of his decision has to do with how Ender treated me, and there isn't much I can do about that because Ender is a good wolf that knows how to play the thread, but what I can respond to is my case on you (FS) since both you and MR mentioned that you didn't feel good about it. In doing so, I'd ask you to try to really look at it from an outsiders perspective that doesn't know your own alignment.

Okay... to work!

fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:10 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 7:40 am Well, that's frustrating.

I sat in the thread for like 15 hours yeaterday waiting for MR and Fingersplints, and now after 3 hours of disscission taking place from 3-6 my time, y'all are committed to locking your votes without ever giving me a chance to respond to anything.

I can't stay up to 6am to beat a tryhard wolf like LC, sorry not sorry, I start work in an hour.
I’m sorry that you find it unfair. I do understand how frustrating it must be. Town or mafia, it’s annoying to be voted at time.

I was unavailable for a lot of yesterday, and I am playing when I can today. As it turns out, the host has rejected our locked votes anyways lol so I guess you do still have time! Unfortunately I can’t really think of anything to ask anyone at the moment as I have something important to prepare for right now.

I'm not going to call it unfair. Frustrating for sure though. It isn't about being voted, more about the timing aspect, where I really did sit in the thread for hours yesterday hoping for one of you two to show up. Not your fault for having a busy schedule on a certain day, but even if it is nobody's fault, still can be frustrating:P

I'mma try to respond to some things and make a few points today, so all I ask is if you can, please consider what I have to say.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 7:53 am If you were town Seanzie, truthfully there wasn't much for you to do/say today that would've swayed my mind. I was going primarily off Ender's treatment of you two and that pointed more towards you than LC so there's not much for you to say to that.

If after I wake up, I respond to some of your posts, will you at least consider it? I really don't think you're giving my D2 enough credit; my Fingersplints read was wrong, but honestly, I'd make the same read again in a heartbeat because I think it is >>rand!wolf even if this time it was a miss.

Well, that's frustrating.

I sat in the thread for like 15 hours yeaterday waiting for MR and Fingersplints, and now after 3 hours of disscission taking place from 3-6 my time, y'all are committed to locking your votes without ever giving me a chance to respond to anything.

I can't stay up to 6am to beat a tryhard wolf like LC, sorry not sorry, I start work in an hour.

Well, today has been pretty exciting.

Anyways, another way to find me town is to look at how I approached EoD2. When I got back from my run and saw Ender had a big wagon, there were only like 20 minutes left, Ender was ahead by a lot, and I was alone in the thread. It would make no sense for wolf!me in that situation to try to save wolf!Ender. All me shouting would do is tie me to Ender, who was about to flip. Wolf!me would have instead tried to position myself to look good after an Ender flip, especially with Ender's fakeclaim, which was guaranteed to be eventually cc'd, being on the right side of that would have led to an easy MeLo.

Day end is tomorrow, which unfortunately Mondays are hell for me, so I'll be available most of the day today for questions, but I won't be around nearly as much tomorrow, so any questions/discussions are better had sooner rather than later.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Apr 03, 2022 11:44 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:09 am Like I said if there's any questions let me know and I'll answer. I'm not entirely sure what else I should be doing. I'm not the type of player to scumcase someone, especially when it's just a 1 on 1 since it's just flat out going to be a conf-biased case.
Can you do it anyway?

@Seanzie same thing - since you know it's LC, can you spell out the case for me on why?

No. I wasn't joking about not being willing to scumcase LC. Last 3-4 games I've played with LC, he has resorted to personal insults and flipping out so hard at me I don't feel comfortable posting in the thread. This game I decided from the get-go to just not interact with him at all and pretend he doesn't exist to avoid any of that unpleasantness, and thus far it has worked. Today obviously complicates things since I can't really just play as if LC doesn't exist, but I'm still not willing to subject myself to that.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun Apr 03, 2022 6:01 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 02, 2022 6:26 pm Called it.

[VOTE: LC] aubergine

I don't think it will be too hard to find me here, so I'm not willing to scumcase LC since he tends to react with personal insults and excessive AtE which makes the game unpleasant.
Ok, if you are unwilling to scumcase LC can you please towncase you? I want to hear both sides

Sure.

So D1 I wasn't really here so I can't speak much about that.

D2 though, I feel like one could find me town pretty easily here. I came in and kinda felt like a rep-in even though I wasn't, so it took me a little bit to get my head on straight, but once I started actually interacting with people, a lot of interaction was surrounding Falcon, and he made a few posts that I thought were really scummy, so I pushed him. Mac also made a few bad posts, and NAA was hard pushing a Mac/Falcon team so that universe kinda made sense. A reasonable size wagon formed on Falcon, and as the day went on, my initial scumread of Falcon dissipated, and I started getting the feeling he could be miselim-bait. In particular, some of NAA's arguments started seeming less and less rational against Falcon, and I realized that if NAA was town, mafia would definitely jump on how tunneled he was on Mac/Falcon to push one of them.

So, I asked myself who might be pushing Falcon simply because NAA was pushing Falcon, and this led me to Fingers. She had an initial townread on Falcon D1, but then it flipped without explanation D2 (when NAA came in hot, pushing Falcon/Mac), and I couldn't find anywhere where she really developed that read, even though she repeated it a lot. In particular, she voted Falcon shortly after I had expressed that NAA might be onto something (granted she had expressed some misgivings on Falcon before this, so the vote wasn't completely out of the blue), so minimally there would be one town supporting a Falcon elim, if not two+. Obviously I was wrong, but I really really thought this looked like wolf!Fingersplints who had just ordered up fried town!Falcon. Mac also was on my mind at the time, and while I wasn't nearly as confident there, a lot of things made sense - Mac having some scummy posts, NAA pushing Falcon/Mac, and having Fingers jump on only Falcon, Fingers having some defenses of Mac that felt awkward. Again, I was wrong, but I'd argue that it was still a good read, and would hit more often than miss if I made the same read in 100 different games.

But yeah, so, no one was listening to me on Fingersplints, and all the wagons were super spread out so like 2 hours left in the day, I called for consolidation, and honestly I don't think I would have done that as mafia, since if we went into EoD with 7 distinct wagons in a 9 person game, it would have been nearly impossible for town to coordinate anything. But yeah, people listened to me and consolidated onto Ender, and my EoD2 kinda goes downhill from there. I was really convinced Fingersplints was mafia, and Ender hadn't pinged me at all, so I tried to move the wagon from Ender to Fingersplints. No one listened to me, fortunately, and then Ender fakeclaimed, and the wagon moved to Falcon, but even then I still tried to move it to Fingersplints. Alas, Falcon went over.

Okay, so finally we're on D3. NAA counterclaimed Ender, and while I am always a bit hesitant to trust NAA, there was clear reason why Ender might have fakeclaimed, and NAA was town in a cop!Ender world, so it was pretty clear Ender was bad. At that point, the PoE was {Me, Porscha, LC}, and Porscha was probably the person I was most confident was town, so game seemed pretty clear. I didn't/don't want to engage with LC because of how he acts, and also I learned the hard way in a past game that on "sleep" days, discussion is not always good, so I was happy we had a relatively quiet day. If I was mafia, I probably would have spent most of D3 trying to figure out where MR and Fingersplints stand exactly to help guide the NK, and also probably would have tried to fish out who was the bodyguard so I'd know who to push in MeLo or if I needed to cc. Instead I leaned into a quiet day to make it harder for LC to decide who to kill. Ultimately it didn't really matter since Porscha bit the bullet, but still, correct play to stay quiet and force a NK with as little info as possible.

And now it is D4, and the PoE has narrowed further. I am town, find me and we win. I'd say it is "simple as that" but I know MeLo situations are stressful and never simple, especially for people who actually need to make decisions. So, let me know if you have any questions. If I think of any more great reasons I'm town, I'll let you know.

Well, this is boring...

MR, Fingersplints, the game is in your hands. Let me know if you have any questions.

Called it.

[VOTE: LC] aubergine

I don't think it will be too hard to find me here, so I'm not willing to scumcase LC since he tends to react with personal insults and excessive AtE which makes the game unpleasant.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Thu Mar 31, 2022 4:19 pm I have a feeling this is going to feel like a very long day.

Agreed. The fact that the day isn't ending in like an hour is... sad. Oh well.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Mar 31, 2022 12:12 pm By the way, I think you're mafia Seanzie... And I disagree with what I think you're saying.

Well then, it is probably for the best that you are likely to die today.

So, fairly certain I have the last scum nailed down, but for personal and thread health reasons I don't really want to engage with them.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Thu Mar 31, 2022 10:23 am Also you “almost still think I’m scum” yet are voting with the group for the option that would mean it is impossible I am

It is a figure of speech, but the idea that NAA might have lied about his greenchecks as some sort of reaction test did cross my mind, but idk not even NAA is that fpsy I don't think. I'mma probably just gonna need to begrudgingly accept that you're town here though.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Thu Mar 31, 2022 4:03 am I’ve been looking for this post to try and remember who said it and it took me way too long.

Seanzie yesterday made a point to say I could be paired with more than just Mac (probably because he knew already that was who the kill would be)

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:06 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:13 am @Seanzie I think Fingersplints can only be with Mac which from my PoV makes fingerspints always a bad kill, thoughts?
I don't agree that there absolutely has to be at least one mafia in Mac/Falcon, so if you are not willing to consider solves without this condition, then I don't know what to tell you. If you are willing to consider this, then I'd say that many people could be with Fingersplints. I think Fingersplints/Falcon and Fingersplints/Porscha are unlikely, and probably Fingersplints/LC is not the team since Fingersplints echoed someone else's echo of Nook's misgivings about LC, but otherwise I don't see anything eliminating pairs with Fingersplints.

So, my thoughts are unless you can convince me of your Mac/Falcon worldview, I don't agree that Fingersplints is a bad kill.

"Seanzie talked about Mac here because he knew Mac was dying"

Lol, or maybe it was because NAA specifically said you could only be with Mac so you were a bad vote.

With posts like this where it feels like you're almost purposefully ignoring details to suit an agenda, I almost still think you're scum even if you're greenchecked. But, since you're likely just town here, please actually look at what NAA asked me.

[VOTE: Enderwiggin] aubergine

If NAA is FPSing, I swear to gods... More likely though I was just wrong on Ender, unfortunately. The threadstate when his claim came in matches a last-ditch effort, and as others pointing out, NAA scum cc'ing doesn't make sense with Ender's checks.

Y'all should move too, this is a much better chance than Falcon IMO.

Okay, there's only 2 votes on Ender and 5 on Falcon, so we can move safely.

[VOTE: Fingersplints] aubergine

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:54 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:53 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:51 pm I'd say dying reads but I get one more day phase because of self-sac.
What?
Self sac veggie will die instead of me tonight.

Oh, you should still give thoughts in case Falcon is self-sac

Still kinda think if we have enough people here it'd be better to move to Fingersplints. dk if we can coordinate that in 4 minutes though

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:54 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:53 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:51 pm I'd say dying reads but I get one more day phase because of self-sac.
What?
Self sac veggie will die instead of me tonight.

yup, see that now.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:53 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:53 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:51 pm I'd say dying reads but I get one more day phase because of self-sac.
What?
There's a body guard.

Maybe I should read the setup at some point...

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:51 pm I'd say dying reads but I get one more day phase because of self-sac.

What?

Eh...

[VOTE: Falcon45ca] aubergine

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:43 pm Read FS's ISO, can be wolf but don't think she is.

Why are you opposed to Ender/Falcon @Seanzie?

I think they're both town. The biggest case against Ender I've seen is that he has been active, which... isn't a good case. Looking through his ISO, I feel fine about him.

The way Falcon's wagon progressed today makes me think he was today's designated wolfbait, probably decided because enough people showed interested in Falcon's wagon early on that it felt like town would bite there too, but the wagon took a sour turn halfway through. Fingersplints has been frozen on him (I mean tbf she has been afk most of today, but her read did an unexplained 180 from D1 to D2 and has been stuck in the exact same spot all D2).

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:42 pm Well I'm a serious wagon now Mac. =P

You should vote Fingersplints. Falcon is not a good wagon.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:39 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:38 pm I'm probably just gonna stay here and go to bed.

Feel free to flash wagon me.
if you insist [VOTE: Master Radish] aubergine

For legal reasons, this is a joke, even though I'd vote MR over Ender/Falcon, but really think people should consider Fingersplints.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:38 pm I'm probably just gonna stay here and go to bed.

Feel free to flash wagon me.

if you insist [VOTE: Master Radish] aubergine

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