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- Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:11 am
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- Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:07 am
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Re: Reanimators [MAFIA WIN!]
Yeah, we debated in scumchat on if we should just block vote Cobalt early and then just leave the thread. We kind of decided that it wasn't a good idea to out too early in case Cobalt came back. I was actually going to stay off them until the last minute just in case, but I switched over because I was out and my phone was nearly dead and I wasn't sure if I was going to get home before EoD (I did get home before EoD, but I didn't want to feel a pressure to have to leave what I was doing just in case I didn't want to).Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:02 am Said I've been busy, but if Marty knew your wincon I might not have voted for you. Wouldn't have mattered tho.
I wish I had invested more time into reading the game and actually playing, was a really different setup for me. I enjoyed it despite feeling a bit ashamed.
Gg scum
- Tue Jul 12, 2022 12:53 am
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Re: Reanimators [MAFIA WIN!]
Martin pointed it out, our wincon was to gain majority, not pairity.Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 12:51 am Why did we play this day if mafia reached parity with town last night?
- Tue Jul 12, 2022 12:31 am
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Re: Reanimators [DAY 5]
Good game everyone! Porscha, you were tough to wolf against, and Marmot, I am convinced you would have had us if you weren't 3p there. It was tough for town having a missing slot and alignment-changing mechanics, and there were a few times where that game could have turned around fast (me almost getting flashwagoned D2 for example).
- Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:54 pm
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Re: Reanimators [DAY 5]
[VOTE:
Cobalt] aubergine
- Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:44 pm
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Re: Reanimators [DAY 5]
[VOTE:
Creature] aubergine
- Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:41 pm
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Re: Reanimators [DAY 5]
Vote Creature with me.
- Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:40 pm
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Re: Reanimators [DAY 5]
*pokes Martin with a stick*MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:39 pmClearly you're mafia buds with Cobalt, since you have never poked him with a stick!
guys I figured it out
I'm joking.
- Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:37 pm
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Re: Reanimators [DAY 5]
*insert John Travolta gif*
- Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:57 pm
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Re: Reanimators [DAY 5]
Unless if Creature and/or Mac are mafia planning to snipe me, I don't think Cobalt's a hit.
@Stupid Sexy Flanders cone talk to me.
@Stupid Sexy Flanders cone talk to me.
- Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:02 pm
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Re: Reanimators [DAY 5]
[VOTE:
Cobalt] aubergine
- Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:34 pm
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Re: Reanimators [DAY 5]
*pokes thread with a stick*
- Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:52 pm
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Re: Reanimators [DAY 4]
How do I do that shrug emoji?Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:20 pmNope.Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 7:42 pmNo. See below.
I don't think Mac can be 3p here. Both Marmot and Rondo died last night and no one claimed one of the kills, so unless mafia had 2 shots last night for some reason, it seems pretty likely that Marmot was some sort of cult leader, and all his recruits die with him. Since Mac didn't die, it stands to reason that Mac is not 3p.Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:45 pmOk I was hammered and this was an awful post.Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 1:16 am Brutal
Apologies to town for being an idiot. Falc, LP, double sorry's.
Obvious assumption is Mac is maf of cult, as verified by our TOWN REGEN GODTHING LP, that I'm a stupid for not not believing.
If we let that bastard slanking punk Cobalt win this game by doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, I will quit playing mafia forever.
I may be an idiot, but fuck that dude.
Vote slank ass pussy no posting coward Cobalt. Don't even care if he's town.
Apologies for the language, was drunk and frustrated at how poorly I've played this game.
- Mac is indy / cult or this game would've ended last night. Also, LP said she didnt rez Mac, so that's that.
3 town
2 maf
1 indy
Need to chop maf to keep er going. I'm not taking my vote off cobalt, and if cobalt is actually town.. sad.
I do recognize I've lived up to my first name this game.
You're wolf
Vote Seanzie
Mac being 3p makes no sense.
- Mon Jul 11, 2022 7:42 pm
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Re: Reanimators [DAY 4]
No. See below.
I don't think Mac can be 3p here. Both Marmot and Rondo died last night and no one claimed one of the kills, so unless mafia had 2 shots last night for some reason, it seems pretty likely that Marmot was some sort of cult leader, and all his recruits die with him. Since Mac didn't die, it stands to reason that Mac is not 3p.Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:45 pmOk I was hammered and this was an awful post.Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 1:16 am Brutal
Apologies to town for being an idiot. Falc, LP, double sorry's.
Obvious assumption is Mac is maf of cult, as verified by our TOWN REGEN GODTHING LP, that I'm a stupid for not not believing.
If we let that bastard slanking punk Cobalt win this game by doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, I will quit playing mafia forever.
I may be an idiot, but fuck that dude.
Vote slank ass pussy no posting coward Cobalt. Don't even care if he's town.
Apologies for the language, was drunk and frustrated at how poorly I've played this game.
- Mac is indy / cult or this game would've ended last night. Also, LP said she didnt rez Mac, so that's that.
3 town
2 maf
1 indy
Need to chop maf to keep er going. I'm not taking my vote off cobalt, and if cobalt is actually town.. sad.
I do recognize I've lived up to my first name this game.
- Mon Jul 11, 2022 7:36 pm
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Re: Reanimators [DAY 5]
So since the game didn't end at SoD, either Mac is town or Cobalt is mafia and so even though mafia have pairity, we can still outvote them so we are allowed to continue (possibly both). The fact that both Creature and Martin are on Cobalt right now is worrying since at least one of them is mafia. It's possible they're voting there to make it look like scum!Cobalt is a miselim though, so idk.
[VOTE: Creature] aubergine
[VOTE: Creature] aubergine
- Sun Jul 10, 2022 2:43 pm
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Re: Reanimators [DAY 5]
Well, this sucks. It's possible we've already effectively lost...
- Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:48 pm
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Re: Reanimators [DAY 4]
Ehh... I can kinda see where Mac is coming from with the TMI thing, but I'm worried that Mac is trying to push suspicion off LP and onto Martin here.
- Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:45 pm
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Re: Reanimators [DAY 4]
What is "impossible"? You're claiming to be a massively OP role that you apparently used in very suboptimal ways and your actual play doesn't really support your role.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:24 pm Well I mean if you switch your vote around enough you're bound to accidentally vote a scum.
Also I'm starting to think I might be wrong on Seanzie after reading more of this. Marmot is looking 10x worse.
Though Seanzie's stubbornness to admit he is making an impossible claim that I am not Town and stretching really makes me doubt he is Town.
- Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:56 pm
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Re: Reanimators [DAY 4]
Why would you be worried about claiming D3? According to you, you were out of shots at that point, so if you could out a scum and clear Flanders, why not claim?LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:49 pmYes.Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:45 pmDid you voice any suspicion on Mac D3 when you thought they might be self-reviving scum? You seem pretty convinced that there aren't two town reanimators (I agree that there is too much reanimation for this game to be remotely balanced if it is all town reanimation) but that should mean you were just as convinced Mac was scum D3.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:39 pmWell my first thought was. "Maybe Mac is a self reviving scum."Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:32 pmYou are accusing me of trying to set up a miselim on someone who would be mech cleared to the thread in the world you're proposing, and you're accusing me of making illogical pushes?LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:28 pm Really if you didn’t want to be accused of Mafia don’t make stupid pushes that are illogical. Your post where you voted me was literally that you didn’t like I redirected Flanders. Which I agree was bad in hindsight as it’s going to get me killed, but I find Flanders much more productive than Mac.
Did you think Mac was scum after he revived?
Then I saw Rondo get revived and realized that there must be a 2nd reanimator and that they revived Mac. Which led me to think again "Wait they didn't revive Doom N1?"
So yeah of course I thought Mac was scum. I wasn't planning on saying that since casting doubt on revived people would be suicidal.
The only reason I'm saying my thoughts now is because I'm outed as a reanimator and have all this information. This was how I viewed and approached this game with the knowledge given by my role.But I wasn't going to say mac since that was obviously going to be questioned with "Why not Flanders" and I didn't have a good idea of how to exclude Flanders without claiming.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 2:35 am One of the revives could have altered alignment, but I'm going to assume for now they weren't.
I also did say this:Because I was suspicious that you were trying to change your vote after seeing I was "immune" since I was attacked N2 and wanted to fish to see if you did.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 12:40 pmI'm a bit curious as to why. Something change your mind about me?
But given you're likely Indy I kind of doubt you're Mafia who shot me N2.
For the second thing, I am just confused. Marmot said he was going to be away all day on the 4th of July, and I made a joke about America for the 4th of July. How does that even remotely add up to what you're saying here? What were you asking "why" about there? "why" what?
- Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:45 pm
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Re: Reanimators [DAY 4]
Did you voice any suspicion on Mac D3 when you thought they might be self-reviving scum? You seem pretty convinced that there aren't two town reanimators (I agree that there is too much reanimation for this game to be remotely balanced if it is all town reanimation) but that should mean you were just as convinced Mac was scum D3.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:39 pmWell my first thought was. "Maybe Mac is a self reviving scum."Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:32 pmYou are accusing me of trying to set up a miselim on someone who would be mech cleared to the thread in the world you're proposing, and you're accusing me of making illogical pushes?LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:28 pm Really if you didn’t want to be accused of Mafia don’t make stupid pushes that are illogical. Your post where you voted me was literally that you didn’t like I redirected Flanders. Which I agree was bad in hindsight as it’s going to get me killed, but I find Flanders much more productive than Mac.
Did you think Mac was scum after he revived?
Then I saw Rondo get revived and realized that there must be a 2nd reanimator and that they revived Mac. Which led me to think again "Wait they didn't revive Doom N1?"
So yeah of course I thought Mac was scum. I wasn't planning on saying that since casting doubt on revived people would be suicidal.
The only reason I'm saying my thoughts now is because I'm outed as a reanimator and have all this information. This was how I viewed and approached this game with the knowledge given by my role.
- Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:32 pm
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Re: Reanimators [DAY 4]
You are accusing me of trying to set up a miselim on someone who would be mech cleared to the thread in the world you're proposing, and you're accusing me of making illogical pushes?LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:28 pm Really if you didn’t want to be accused of Mafia don’t make stupid pushes that are illogical. Your post where you voted me was literally that you didn’t like I redirected Flanders. Which I agree was bad in hindsight as it’s going to get me killed, but I find Flanders much more productive than Mac.
Did you think Mac was scum after he revived?
- Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:24 pm
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Re: Reanimators [DAY 4]
I'm assuming you mean Flanders and not Falcon.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:17 pmThe difference is that I have a strong rolecard that both implies there is a scum reanimator and that confirms that Falcon is always Town since I revive people as Town.Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:14 pm"This is scumsided, but also it is exactly what I've been saying" hmm...LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:09 pmThis is probably the most scumsidded thing you have ever said. You're going to lynch me and Flanders? No Town would think that after a Town Reanimator dies the person they reanimated would be scum.Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:05 pmI don't see how this spews Mac town, but whatever. There is almost assuredly at least one scum in you/Flanders/Mac, but that is an issue to deal with after we find the scum in the never-deads.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:57 pmHAHAHAH This is such a stretch I think your arm popped out its socketLinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:54 pmI have spent so much time looking over ISOs. Nobody is playing in such a way that looks like they are a team with the exception of you and Seanzie.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:49 pm
Now your story is changing. Arent you the reanimator? So youve given up on that? Its like youve given up on a lie that you were caught in and you know your position is untennable so you have to push a scummy looking town.
I know I am town and I have flipped town I have come back as town so I can just fuck around and find out. But you see this as a perfect opportunity to try and get another mislynch. There is a reason Seanzy isnt pushing me anymore. He found out I was town and Accepted he was wrong.
You however decided its the right thing to do? Why maybe because you feel under so much pressure to try and stay alive?
That leads me to several obvious conclusions. First being that Cobalt is probably Mafia with 1 of Seanzie, Creature, Martin, and Marmot. If that is wrong then honestly the 2 Mafia played pretty damn well.
2nd that leaves the Indy who has to be in that same pool of Seanzie, Creature, Martin, and Marmot.
The fact you flipped Town once means that Seanzie and your connection could only be that Seanzie is the Indy and you two are coordinating in a chat.
Mac like I said is just the same alignment as you pretty much all the time unless there are several scum aligned reanimators and only one can convert.
Nice slip, Mac is town
Also I will do you a favour, If you flip town I will turbo Seanzie so hard
You also cannot scumread me for being paranoid about a scum reanimator and then agree that that is true.
I am not scumreading you for that and I have mentioned multiple times that the reanimated are quite possibly not all town and should not be blindly trusted.
You are only making this argument to lynch Town.
So you're trying to convince people of a world where I'm scum and you're town and that I'm including Flanders on that list with the intention of having you flip town, then me still go after cleared Flanders after that? You're really stretching for it here. Go ahead, tell me why that make no sense.
- Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:16 pm
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Re: Reanimators [DAY 4]
Fortunately it doesn't really matter much as long as we stick to the plan. Root out the original 3 scum. If they are all dead and the game is still going, you know for a fact that one of the reanimated is scum and all the neverdeads left are clear. Go from there.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:14 pmoh well then its Flanders/Mac because I am town. I dont see how it could be anyone brought back to life already because the game started with 2 wolves and I think Flanders/Mac have both been flipped so You could just be wrongSeanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:05 pmI don't see how this spews Mac town, but whatever. There is almost assuredly at least one scum in you/Flanders/Mac, but that is an issue to deal with after we find the scum in the never-deads.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:57 pmHAHAHAH This is such a stretch I think your arm popped out its socketLinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:54 pmI have spent so much time looking over ISOs. Nobody is playing in such a way that looks like they are a team with the exception of you and Seanzie.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:49 pmNow your story is changing. Arent you the reanimator? So youve given up on that? Its like youve given up on a lie that you were caught in and you know your position is untennable so you have to push a scummy looking town.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:46 pmI mean I know with like 99% accuracy you were ressurected by either Mafia or the Indy. unless they got some insane benefit from ressurecting you it's very likely that you just mimicked their alignment.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:43 pm
ohhh so you need me to flip town twice in one game to know I am town. Got it
4 town revives is probably too strong, and with Doom and Flander's having their alignments stay the same makes it more likely hte one of you and Mac if not both are scum.
The way you've been playing today leads me to believe you are always scum and mac. I dunno, probably scum by proxy though he doesn't seem to be playing like one.
I know I am town and I have flipped town I have come back as town so I can just fuck around and find out. But you see this as a perfect opportunity to try and get another mislynch. There is a reason Seanzy isnt pushing me anymore. He found out I was town and Accepted he was wrong.
You however decided its the right thing to do? Why maybe because you feel under so much pressure to try and stay alive?
That leads me to several obvious conclusions. First being that Cobalt is probably Mafia with 1 of Seanzie, Creature, Martin, and Marmot. If that is wrong then honestly the 2 Mafia played pretty damn well.
2nd that leaves the Indy who has to be in that same pool of Seanzie, Creature, Martin, and Marmot.
The fact you flipped Town once means that Seanzie and your connection could only be that Seanzie is the Indy and you two are coordinating in a chat.
Mac like I said is just the same alignment as you pretty much all the time unless there are several scum aligned reanimators and only one can convert.
Nice slip, Mac is town
Also I will do you a favour, If you flip town I will turbo Seanzie so hard
- Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:14 pm
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Re: Reanimators [DAY 4]
"This is scumsided, but also it is exactly what I've been saying" hmm...LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:09 pmThis is probably the most scumsidded thing you have ever said. You're going to lynch me and Flanders? No Town would think that after a Town Reanimator dies the person they reanimated would be scum.Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:05 pmI don't see how this spews Mac town, but whatever. There is almost assuredly at least one scum in you/Flanders/Mac, but that is an issue to deal with after we find the scum in the never-deads.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:57 pmHAHAHAH This is such a stretch I think your arm popped out its socketLinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:54 pmI have spent so much time looking over ISOs. Nobody is playing in such a way that looks like they are a team with the exception of you and Seanzie.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:49 pmNow your story is changing. Arent you the reanimator? So youve given up on that? Its like youve given up on a lie that you were caught in and you know your position is untennable so you have to push a scummy looking town.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:46 pmI mean I know with like 99% accuracy you were ressurected by either Mafia or the Indy. unless they got some insane benefit from ressurecting you it's very likely that you just mimicked their alignment.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:43 pm
ohhh so you need me to flip town twice in one game to know I am town. Got it
4 town revives is probably too strong, and with Doom and Flander's having their alignments stay the same makes it more likely hte one of you and Mac if not both are scum.
The way you've been playing today leads me to believe you are always scum and mac. I dunno, probably scum by proxy though he doesn't seem to be playing like one.
I know I am town and I have flipped town I have come back as town so I can just fuck around and find out. But you see this as a perfect opportunity to try and get another mislynch. There is a reason Seanzy isnt pushing me anymore. He found out I was town and Accepted he was wrong.
You however decided its the right thing to do? Why maybe because you feel under so much pressure to try and stay alive?
That leads me to several obvious conclusions. First being that Cobalt is probably Mafia with 1 of Seanzie, Creature, Martin, and Marmot. If that is wrong then honestly the 2 Mafia played pretty damn well.
2nd that leaves the Indy who has to be in that same pool of Seanzie, Creature, Martin, and Marmot.
The fact you flipped Town once means that Seanzie and your connection could only be that Seanzie is the Indy and you two are coordinating in a chat.
Mac like I said is just the same alignment as you pretty much all the time unless there are several scum aligned reanimators and only one can convert.
Nice slip, Mac is town
Also I will do you a favour, If you flip town I will turbo Seanzie so hard
You also cannot scumread me for being paranoid about a scum reanimator and then agree that that is true.
I am not scumreading you for that and I have mentioned multiple times that the reanimated are quite possibly not all town and should not be blindly trusted.
- Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:05 pm
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Re: Reanimators [DAY 4]
I don't see how this spews Mac town, but whatever. There is almost assuredly at least one scum in you/Flanders/Mac, but that is an issue to deal with after we find the scum in the never-deads.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:57 pmHAHAHAH This is such a stretch I think your arm popped out its socketLinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:54 pmI have spent so much time looking over ISOs. Nobody is playing in such a way that looks like they are a team with the exception of you and Seanzie.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:49 pmNow your story is changing. Arent you the reanimator? So youve given up on that? Its like youve given up on a lie that you were caught in and you know your position is untennable so you have to push a scummy looking town.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:46 pmI mean I know with like 99% accuracy you were ressurected by either Mafia or the Indy. unless they got some insane benefit from ressurecting you it's very likely that you just mimicked their alignment.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:43 pmohhh so you need me to flip town twice in one game to know I am town. Got itLinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:41 pmI very much dislike being gaslit.
Plus I really do not trust that you and Mac are Town until one of you flips Town since I really doubt the other reanimator is Town.
4 town revives is probably too strong, and with Doom and Flander's having their alignments stay the same makes it more likely hte one of you and Mac if not both are scum.
The way you've been playing today leads me to believe you are always scum and mac. I dunno, probably scum by proxy though he doesn't seem to be playing like one.
I know I am town and I have flipped town I have come back as town so I can just fuck around and find out. But you see this as a perfect opportunity to try and get another mislynch. There is a reason Seanzy isnt pushing me anymore. He found out I was town and Accepted he was wrong.
You however decided its the right thing to do? Why maybe because you feel under so much pressure to try and stay alive?
That leads me to several obvious conclusions. First being that Cobalt is probably Mafia with 1 of Seanzie, Creature, Martin, and Marmot. If that is wrong then honestly the 2 Mafia played pretty damn well.
2nd that leaves the Indy who has to be in that same pool of Seanzie, Creature, Martin, and Marmot.
The fact you flipped Town once means that Seanzie and your connection could only be that Seanzie is the Indy and you two are coordinating in a chat.
Mac like I said is just the same alignment as you pretty much all the time unless there are several scum aligned reanimators and only one can convert.
Nice slip, Mac is town
Also I will do you a favour, If you flip town I will turbo Seanzie so hard
- Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:57 pm
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Re: Reanimators [DAY 4]
Any reasonable person of any alignment would revive Mac, which begs the question why you didn't if your "story" is to be believed.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:47 pm Plus like Seanzie said scum would always revive Mac if they had a convert which hey another reason Seanzie is the scum reanimator.
- Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:54 pm
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Re: Reanimators [DAY 4]
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:33 pmYou did.Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 2:43 pmWho is claiming you're SK?LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 2:09 pm Alright I had a hot shower and am relaxed. Honestly it’s been Gr. I assume most of the town has been converted or something because the argument that I’m a SK is so stupid as there hasn’t been more than 1 kill per night. Even if you were to assume I’m Indy the fact that Doom was reanimated as Town is enough for that claim to be rendered invalid as an Indy who can revive people as town is pointless unless they won with town. There’s also the only way I can be Mafia if Doom was a Vigilate who shot her self when Mafia attacked her N2 since Mafia probably wouldn’t come up with the plan to shoot themselves.
Everything here suggests you aren't actually trying to understand where my suspicion on you is coming from and actually engage with it, which makes me think I'm just right on you. Personally, I'm not sure if you're 3p or mafia, but I could easily see you being a 3p reanimator or something with your claim being mostly true, but with some lies mixed in (such as exactly who you revived and how your protection works), or you could be mafia here with some knowledge about how people have been reanimated either via some sort of rolecop or possibly recruitment. The least likely scenario is that you're town with an OP role that you're using in very questionable ways.
Quote where I called you SK.
LinearPoint wrote:
You've done nothing but make up lies. You've been openwolfing since day 2 and nobody cares. The fact you have to make such drastic things up to kill a confirmed townie in itself is proof.
What "drastic things" am I making up? Quote them please.
Again, quote where I accused you of being SK. It didn't happen.LinearPoint wrote:
You change your story every 2 seconds. First you accuse me of being an SK, then when I point out it's stupid you act like you didn't even know that was an argument you were pushing.
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Again, I did not say that. Quote where I said that.LinearPoint wrote:
Then you said I shot myself night 2 which is stupid. I just wouldn't even bother reanimating Doom if I was just going to commit suicide to kill her again.
Which arguments have I not addressed? Quote them and I will address them.LinearPoint wrote:
And you can't even address any arguments solidly. The fact Rondo is parroting your talking points is why it's so fucking obvious you're the 3P with Mac and Rondo.
Idk what you're doing here, but lying about easily verifiable facts doesn't really work. My ISO is there, quote these posts that you claim exist. This is just a bad last-ditch effort from caught scum. Sorry LP, try again next time.
- Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:01 pm
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Normally I don't like to do preflip analysis, but I'm pretty sure that if I'm right about LP, I'm dead tonight and idk how many more people can revive before this game becomes simply ridiculous, so idk if I'll come back. Legacy for LP mafia flip:
Biggest thing is to find their teammate in the original group, so Cobalt, Creature, Marmot, Martin.
Cobalt/LP:
There was a lot more here than I was expecting. Early on some of LP's play around others with regard to Cobalt could be partnered. By D3 and D4, Cobalt becomes one of LP's main pushes for scum. It is possible LP is setting up to bus an empty scum slot to improve her own threadstanding, but there is at least one post in there where she kind of puts Cobalt on the table in an indirect way that she wouldn't get credit for if Cobalt flipped scum, which makes me doubt a bus.
Creature/LP:
Creature isn't mentioned in LP's ISO as much as the other 3 (which is a little concerning given Cobalt is one of the other 3). LP is almost entirely positive with Creature, and aside from putting them in a few "scum might be here" groupings, doesn't ever push Creature. LP also gives a pretty big towncase on Creature, which I think is teammate indicative since I don't see wolf!LP trying to pocket town!Creature or making it harder to miselim town!Creature.
Marmot/LP:
LP was on Marmot hard pretty much from D1, and her last minute vote switch put Marmot up for tie D2. If they're teammates, LP was trying to hellbus here, but I don't think that makes a lot of sense as LP was in fine position D2, and bussing that hard would probably lead to more question about why LP didn't die than townreads. It is a bit unusual though - LP doesn't mention Marmot at all today. D3 she did end up on Rondo rather than Marmot, but was still pushing Marmot throughout most of the day and said she was fine with either elim, so LP just full-out ignoring Marmot today strikes me, but idk what it means. Either way, I think they are unlikely to be teamed.
Martin/LP:
This one is hard. LP's early play with Martin definitely has notes that could be teammates distancing, and she seems to towncore him D2 and doesn't look back, until today where she is hardpushing scum!Martin, but this could easily just be bad anti-spew. There are a few times where LP's play seems overly complicated for teammates though, so that gives me a bit of pause, but they are definitely compatible.
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Conclusion: I think Creature is the most likely teammate of LP, with Martin as second. Cobalt and Marmot are less likely, with Marmot I think full-on anti-teamed. Unless we get really lucky with more revives, we probably don't have two mischops left, if we have even one, so I'd chop Creature -> Martin here, and then worry about the revived folks.
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I only looked at this from LP's ISO. I wanted to look through Marmot/Creature/Martin's ISO as well, but this took wayyyy longer than I expected so I doubt I'll get to this today. I also wanted to look into the revived people to see if anyone looked like they were revived as mafia, but again not likely to happen. Off the top of my head Mac is the most obvious LP teammate, but honestly it feels so easy that I kind of doubt it so assuming the game doesn't end with three scum flips in the live people, review all the revived closely.
Biggest thing is to find their teammate in the original group, so Cobalt, Creature, Marmot, Martin.
Cobalt/LP:
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Creature/LP:
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Marmot/LP:
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Conclusion: I think Creature is the most likely teammate of LP, with Martin as second. Cobalt and Marmot are less likely, with Marmot I think full-on anti-teamed. Unless we get really lucky with more revives, we probably don't have two mischops left, if we have even one, so I'd chop Creature -> Martin here, and then worry about the revived folks.
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I only looked at this from LP's ISO. I wanted to look through Marmot/Creature/Martin's ISO as well, but this took wayyyy longer than I expected so I doubt I'll get to this today. I also wanted to look into the revived people to see if anyone looked like they were revived as mafia, but again not likely to happen. Off the top of my head Mac is the most obvious LP teammate, but honestly it feels so easy that I kind of doubt it so assuming the game doesn't end with three scum flips in the live people, review all the revived closely.
- Fri Jul 08, 2022 2:45 pm
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You being this convinced I'm 3p makes me think you KNOW for a fact I'm not mafia, which means that you're mafia. Good to know.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 2:14 pm I just hope Mafia kill Seanzie because he is just an open wolfing Indy and it’s painfully obvious. He’s practically claiming Cultist with how Rondo is open wolfing with him. Granted he’s probably night immune, but whatevs. I just hope he doesn’t win for how obvious he is playing.
- Fri Jul 08, 2022 2:43 pm
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Who is claiming you're SK?LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 2:09 pm Alright I had a hot shower and am relaxed. Honestly it’s been Gr. I assume most of the town has been converted or something because the argument that I’m a SK is so stupid as there hasn’t been more than 1 kill per night. Even if you were to assume I’m Indy the fact that Doom was reanimated as Town is enough for that claim to be rendered invalid as an Indy who can revive people as town is pointless unless they won with town. There’s also the only way I can be Mafia if Doom was a Vigilate who shot her self when Mafia attacked her N2 since Mafia probably wouldn’t come up with the plan to shoot themselves.
Everything here suggests you aren't actually trying to understand where my suspicion on you is coming from and actually engage with it, which makes me think I'm just right on you. Personally, I'm not sure if you're 3p or mafia, but I could easily see you being a 3p reanimator or something with your claim being mostly true, but with some lies mixed in (such as exactly who you revived and how your protection works), or you could be mafia here with some knowledge about how people have been reanimated either via some sort of rolecop or possibly recruitment. The least likely scenario is that you're town with an OP role that you're using in very questionable ways.
- Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:43 am
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The fact that LP is the lead wagon suggests people kind of are saying that, just perhaps not with words.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:41 amremember when I was town 3p in ducky and people wanted to vote me out because 3p are anti town? Why arent people saying that here?Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:19 pmYour claim sounds like 3p, but you could also be mafia and lying about your role.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:08 pm Like I said I don't real care if I die or not. Hopefully it's obvious that Seanzie and Martin are just scum. They are trying their hardest to reach for some stupid ass reason that I'm a 3rd Party jus tbecause they want to remove a reanimator from the game.
I assume they just don't believe I only have 2 revives. And like I said with me getting attacked N2, I'm pretty sure they are 3rd who think I'm night immune.
Why is it obvious that we're scum? Because we suspect you? From your POV, if you're town, Flanders should be lock!town, but is also suspecting you, so why couldn't me and/or Martin be town?
- Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:48 pm
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Well, you've had two game days to catch back up, and it isn't like this has been the most active game. If you haven't noticed, we haven't been doing great, and between the single-post slot and in general most people not being very active, it's making it very hard to successfully scumhunt. So, unless you're scum who is happy with the current thread state, I'd appreciate you trying to get caught up and giving some actually educated thoughts on the current situation.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:02 pmyou really need to understand that I haven't been paying attention to this game at allSeanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:28 pmWould town!LP revive Flanders over you? Also, in a town!LP world, at least one, if not both of you and Rondo are very likely scum, as i can't see a game with 4 town revives, and even 3 town revives seems like a lot, in particular two in one day with no scum revive until N3, so uhh...MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:54 pmyou sound townieLinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:23 pm There is really no other way this game is solved and nobody cares.
Seanize is 100% the Indy Reanimating Cultist.
Mac and Rondo both were revived as Cultists.
Martin is basically announcing he is Mafia with this opportunistic half assed push.
Reviving Flanders was the biggest mistake of the game since he's done nothing but push Town since revival.
Creature and Cobalt are AFK with 1 of them guarenteed to be scum. Honestly if both are scum I'll have to reconsider the idea of just be afk all game to freelo victory.
when I die in games I check out mentally and flush everything...
rez mechanics are like the worst thing ever for me
- Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:38 pm
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- Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:36 pm
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- Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:32 pm
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This. The people who revived shouldn't be blindly trusted, but it makes little sense to elim them while we still have a small bucket with a large number of guaranteed scum in it. Once we find the original scum, if the game isn't over, we know that some of the revived people must be scum, and we can go from there.MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 6:23 pmNo, I think its optimal to solve in the people who have not died or reanimated given that if there is an evil reanimator of some sort then they're among those who haven't been revived. Same goes for the wolves and 3p who have not flipped.Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 6:21 pmSo both you and LP keep saying "town reanimator", like there's more than one reanimator. Yet early game when I asked the thread if anyone was familiar with this setup I got crickets.MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 6:18 pmMy previously-mentioned theory that Porcha was quite possibly the town reanimator.Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 6:15 pmThe only real way to accomplish placing doubt on mine or Mac's alignment would be to allow us to live.MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 6:05 pmhow come they don't kill you last night thenStupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:24 pm I definitely kill the resurrected civilian N2 no matter how they approached the thread. Absolutely no way I allow someone who's essentially town cleared by EVERYONE, to see another day. Maf needs a wide open PoE, leaving a town cleared player alive is a terrible play.
Can't kill us both in the same night, however it did occur to me that there is a possibility Mac had an alignment switch. He's a highly regarded player here, so it is odd he didn't get MK'd, however there's nothing saying mafia don't have a role cop and got a hit on Porscha (if she is/was a special)
But I kinda get the feeling you might have an idea why. Why do you think Mac wasn't killed?
So my assumption was the 3p is the reanimator, but I guess you're telling me I'm wrong, and I should've been voting Mac since his reanimation?
- Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:28 pm
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Would town!LP revive Flanders over you? Also, in a town!LP world, at least one, if not both of you and Rondo are very likely scum, as i can't see a game with 4 town revives, and even 3 town revives seems like a lot, in particular two in one day with no scum revive until N3, so uhh...MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:54 pmyou sound townieLinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:23 pm There is really no other way this game is solved and nobody cares.
Seanize is 100% the Indy Reanimating Cultist.
Mac and Rondo both were revived as Cultists.
Martin is basically announcing he is Mafia with this opportunistic half assed push.
Reviving Flanders was the biggest mistake of the game since he's done nothing but push Town since revival.
Creature and Cobalt are AFK with 1 of them guarenteed to be scum. Honestly if both are scum I'll have to reconsider the idea of just be afk all game to freelo victory.
- Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:24 pm
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Eh... not everyone breadcrumbs. In fact, on the site I'm originally from, I'd see breadcrumbing come more often from scum trying to setup a fakeclaim than town breadcrumbing their real role. That being said, LP's D3 play around Mac makes little sense, in a gamestate where she should have been convinced he was scum, she didn't really mention anything about Mac.Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:43 pmSo I have two big problems with your claim:LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:32 pm Yeah I don't know. I'm just going to go play minecraft for a day. I'm just frustrated we've lynched 4 town with supposedly 4 Town revives and not a single scum kill.
1) stating no wincon in your DM
2) not breadcrumbing your role.
Maybe I'm just too used to breadcrumbs from home, but it is super important to leave a trail that won't be noticeable until you have to prove your role. That way if a wolf tries to CC, you can show your "work" (so to speak).
- Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:21 pm
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Who is saying there are 4 town revives?LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:32 pm Yeah I don't know. I'm just going to go play minecraft for a day. I'm just frustrated we've lynched 4 town with supposedly 4 Town revives and not a single scum kill.
- Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:19 pm
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Your claim sounds like 3p, but you could also be mafia and lying about your role.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:08 pm Like I said I don't real care if I die or not. Hopefully it's obvious that Seanzie and Martin are just scum. They are trying their hardest to reach for some stupid ass reason that I'm a 3rd Party jus tbecause they want to remove a reanimator from the game.
I assume they just don't believe I only have 2 revives. And like I said with me getting attacked N2, I'm pretty sure they are 3rd who think I'm night immune.
Why is it obvious that we're scum? Because we suspect you? From your POV, if you're town, Flanders should be lock!town, but is also suspecting you, so why couldn't me and/or Martin be town?
- Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:13 pm
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Sure, and that's fair. I don't think you did anything wrong, just wanted to mention it before it became a huge topic of discussion in case I'm right and it is against the rules.Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:07 pmThen LP shouldn't have brought a sketchy description of a likely bunk rolecard into play.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:04 pmI think these sorts of lines of inquiry might be against the rules, as specific details of a rolecard I think usually counts as angleshooting, and angleshooting is not allowed. I'm not modding this game, but I'd recommend not pursuing this (or possibly ask our host if this sort of thing is allowed before continuing) because minimally this is on the borderline of what it allowed, if not over it.Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:49 pm LPs description of their rolecard is questionable.
I'm not asking, I'm saying WHAT THEY SAID ABOUT THEIR ROLECARD IS SKETCH.
But if that crosses the line, I'll take the GK and feel shame.
- Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:10 pm
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You doubt a scum reanimator would do what?LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:08 pm Well considering Doom was reanimated as Town I doubt a scum reanimator would do taht.
- Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:09 pm
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That's only assuming that LP is telling the truth about the redirect thing, but that only happens in a world where Porscha isn't the reanimator. I find it kind of unlikely that someone who has the ability to more-or-less increase town's numbers by two, and give hard clears on those two, would also have built in protection (even though redirection/BG is less powerful than say BP vest). The whole thing reeks more like 3p tbh.MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:02 pmStep 1:Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:59 pmHow does Porscha being reanimator explain the DoOm kill? I assumed DoOm was killed to keep the collection of live players (the basket that contains two mafia and a 3p) as large as possible for as long as possible, granted that doesn't fit perfectly with the Porscha kill, but that could be explained if one/both of Flanders and Mac are evil, in particular Mac (as a Flanders kill would more-or-less put a huge spotlight on Mac)MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:45 pm I think the only way LP is mafia here is if:
Porscha was the Civ Reanimator
Otherwise I don't see how would they explain the Doom kill. Doom had just helped got Flanders ML'ed, and so there's not a whole lot of incentive to kill DOOM there especially when there could be much more concerning players who are scum. Such as rondo, who was confirmed to be town at one point, or myself.
I see the point about reviving Mac, but I think the mafia killings (and the fact that no one is CC'ing LinearPoint) speaks louder to me.
LP not being CC'd is giving me some pause, but Porscha or even possibly Rondo could have been reanimator (Rondo not CC'ing either because he hasn't been around or because his alignment changed), or people could be reanimated via some other method rather than from direct ability use, so idk how much stock to put into this. LP's play with regards to her claimed role though doesn't make sense to me.
Attack Porscha, get redirected to DOOM
Step 2:
Attack Porscha again because they're obviously some sort of PR and could easily explain the DOOM kill
- Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:04 pm
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I think these sorts of lines of inquiry might be against the rules, as specific details of a rolecard I think usually counts as angleshooting, and angleshooting is not allowed. I'm not modding this game, but I'd recommend not pursuing this (or possibly ask our host if this sort of thing is allowed before continuing) because minimally this is on the borderline of what it allowed, if not over it.Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:49 pm LPs description of their rolecard is questionable.
- Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:59 pm
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How does Porscha being reanimator explain the DoOm kill? I assumed DoOm was killed to keep the collection of live players (the basket that contains two mafia and a 3p) as large as possible for as long as possible, granted that doesn't fit perfectly with the Porscha kill, but that could be explained if one/both of Flanders and Mac are evil, in particular Mac (as a Flanders kill would more-or-less put a huge spotlight on Mac)MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:45 pm I think the only way LP is mafia here is if:
Porscha was the Civ Reanimator
Otherwise I don't see how would they explain the Doom kill. Doom had just helped got Flanders ML'ed, and so there's not a whole lot of incentive to kill DOOM there especially when there could be much more concerning players who are scum. Such as rondo, who was confirmed to be town at one point, or myself.
I see the point about reviving Mac, but I think the mafia killings (and the fact that no one is CC'ing LinearPoint) speaks louder to me.
LP not being CC'd is giving me some pause, but Porscha or even possibly Rondo could have been reanimator (Rondo not CC'ing either because he hasn't been around or because his alignment changed), or people could be reanimated via some other method rather than from direct ability use, so idk how much stock to put into this. LP's play with regards to her claimed role though doesn't make sense to me.
- Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:50 pm
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I didn't push you D3?LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:39 pm Honestly I already suspected Seanzie was the one who attacked me night 2. They were suspiciously quick to start pushing me day 3.
- Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:47 pm
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Ooorrr....LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:17 pmSo I was right that you were the scum Reanimator who ressurected Mac.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:56 pmSo you didn't consider reviving one of the most respected players on this community that was killed N1? Like no offense to Flanders and Falcon, but this is a very weird choice to make. Plus, Mac wasn't like the most active D1, but he was contributing. Only after his revival has he not really participated much.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:46 pm Well really I just wanted to get the revives off to guarentee value. I decided between you and Falcon to choose you. Mac hadn't really participated until then so he wasn't considered.
Cool.
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- Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:56 pm
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So you didn't consider reviving one of the most respected players on this community that was killed N1? Like no offense to Flanders and Falcon, but this is a very weird choice to make. Plus, Mac wasn't like the most active D1, but he was contributing. Only after his revival has he not really participated much.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:46 pm Well really I just wanted to get the revives off to guarentee value. I decided between you and Falcon to choose you. Mac hadn't really participated until then so he wasn't considered.
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Re: Reanimators [DAY 4]
If what LP is saying is true, then we're likely in one of the following situations (town/mafia/3p): 4/4/1, 4/3/2, 4/2/3 with Mac and Rondo both some sort of scum. Hitting town in any of these situations (and in some cases hitting 3p even) is game over, so we're possibly in elo.
However, I have some reservations about LP's claim. It comes at a very convenient time where she was getting heat in the thread and definitely a contender for todays TK, and if we believe her, probably the best bet would be to elim one of Mac or Rondo, which if LP is lying and we hit town, we move to something possibly like 3/3/1 or 2/3/2 something similar, which isn't immediate game over due to multiball, but town loses majority. Furthermore, LP seems pretty convinced that she is the only town reviver, but if she thought that and was out of shots yesterday, I don't see why she wouldn't have immediately turned on Mac and claimed yesterday. Finally, I asked her a question that I think is really important just now, and she dipped, which... doesn't give me confidence.
However, I have some reservations about LP's claim. It comes at a very convenient time where she was getting heat in the thread and definitely a contender for todays TK, and if we believe her, probably the best bet would be to elim one of Mac or Rondo, which if LP is lying and we hit town, we move to something possibly like 3/3/1 or 2/3/2 something similar, which isn't immediate game over due to multiball, but town loses majority. Furthermore, LP seems pretty convinced that she is the only town reviver, but if she thought that and was out of shots yesterday, I don't see why she wouldn't have immediately turned on Mac and claimed yesterday. Finally, I asked her a question that I think is really important just now, and she dipped, which... doesn't give me confidence.
- Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:20 pm
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Do you get to choose specifically who you revive, or is it just like "revive a town"?LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:03 pmWell Mac was very much not revived by Town which makes it hard to believe he is Town.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:50 pmIf you believe the 3p is someone who flips town and then revives to mafia, why would that mean it is Mac, rather than Flanders or Rondo?LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:55 am But the Mafia don't appear to be working together at all since no players have really any connections. Which leads me to think my original theory of the indy being Town who self revives as Mafia being true.
In which case it would mean Mac is Mafia with Seanzie and probably Cobalt.
And that I think is my only real plausible read. Otherwise this game is weird and I clearly do not understand the setup.
I suppose I don't really need to hide my role anymore, but I'm the one reviving Town and I'm out of revives so that's the end of that.
Furthermore my role being Civ Reanimator implies that there is probably a Mafia or Indy Reanimator which seeing Mac was revived yeah that is probably the case. The way people have been talking also seems like there is only the 2 reanimators in the game and no more which one being scum and one being town makes sense.
It's also hard to believe there is a second Civ reanimator considering the role gets a 1-shot pseudoBP., night kills are redirected to a player you revived instead. Obviously that's what happened to Doom N2.
I'm past the point of caring if I die or not, I just want it to be clear when I die and flip Town that the other reanimator is scum and that both Mac and Rondo are not to be trusted since they were revived by scum who probably changed their alignments.
I looked through your ISO to see how you reacted to the double-revive yesterday. You did cast some doubt on the alignments of the revived, but I don't see anything specific about Mac v Flanders. Did you think Mac was scum yesterday?