The Syndicate

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 10:58 pm Vote: Falcon

Someone hammer

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 10:39 pm I'm not spoiling anything. Blame Seanzie if you want.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 1:36 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 2:53 am

Roxy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:30 am

It is Day 1 with an extentsion so that everyone may check in.

Master Radishes and Kate cannot be elimmed today!

Wait, what... two players cannot get elimmed today. What kind of game is this?

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 2:59 am Is not being in the poll NAI... at random?

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 4:20 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 3:33 am

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 2:59 am Is not being in the poll NAI... at random?

Kate and I are the Mafia.

And we cannot vote for you ... all game long! I knew it! this is the real world. Scum cannot be touched.

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 4:26 am Kinda annoying can't vote for two players today. Kate and MR go into the null pile until d2.

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 5:28 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 5:07 am Also someone should probably go read the last few posts of the sign-up thread if you want to understand the me/Kate thing.

The f. Its a recruitingbonus.

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 5:42 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 5:40 am

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 4:34 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 4:32 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 3:42 am

probably, tho i imagine someone is bound to be pissed if one of them turns out to be an obvwolf and we can’t lunch them

myself included

I'd bet a million dollars one is a wolf and the other is town

Why would it work that way?

Why wouldn't it?

Apparently itsa recruiting bonus, so itsa totally NAI thing.

The mass amount of attention Belzy puts on the "Can't vote these two" thing is really concerning to me because he spoke about it for 2+ hours and nothing else.

There's others you can probably pay attention to, go to one of them maybe?

That's an unnecessary early take to play on a teammate, right?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 10:22 pm Seanzie must I have to whip your ass?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 10:24 pm I voted out two wolves and I didn't even have to effort it.

I got all the energy in the world for this game, and I'm fully fine using it to put you into the ground.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 10:21 pm I just read through Lime Coke and feel fine. If you're looking for more specific shit, I don't mind doing that. Just let me know.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 10:15 pm My present lean is Radishes or Zenon.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 10:15 pm My present lean is Radishes or Zenon.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 10:00 pm

Spoiler: show

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 6:11 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 6:06 pm Leaning Master Radishes and Kate town.

I agree to both these
Sean also is town lean for me

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 6:42 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 6:33 pm

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 6:30 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 6:19 pm

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 6:16 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 6:14 pm

agreed on radishes and ted

Have you played much with Kate or svs?

i have, quite a lot of games actually
that's why i feel that it will be more laborious to accurately read them
but i do have my methods

If you want to do a GTH exercise,

Pick if Kate or SVS is more likely to be a wolf

kate
svs had a post where she respected my start of day reads essentially and expected more from me. i don't see that specific attitude coming from a wolf because their focus would be elsewhere and they didn't phrase it as a compliment. felt more like they good faith assumed i was v and wanted me to make reads which is an extension of a mindset that is entirely unnecessary to be in as a wolf

I would have picked SVS for inexplicable reasons of gut reads, but I like your take. I’ll put you in town lean.

Liked adding to my townreads list while agreeing with me.

Then the question with Robyn and using it to store a read onto her looks good.

Spoiler: show

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 6:48 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 6:44 pm

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 6:42 pm gut reads

do you have any reads that do not fall within this category?

I always play day 1 on my instincts.

I like your explanation on that GTH question I gave you.
I like Seanzie’s list
I think MR logic is sound and feels genuine

This to go with what was quoted earlier feels decent for Day 1 given how much content there was at the time.

Spoiler: show

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 7:24 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 6:48 pm FingerSplints is town.

Always

The past version of BradLand liked Fingersplints and townread her, seems like a good read to continue on.

Spoiler: show

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 1:52 pm @Belzy if you could make one concise post on your case on lc I would appreciate it

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:04 am

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:07 am SVS needs to be lynched here always.

Hard disagree

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:04 am Voting belzy for that nonsense

Doesn't feel partnered to me.

Spoiler: show

fingersplints wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 5:16 pm It’s been an exhausting day; I’ve been following along but have been struggling to form the words of what I think.

I guess to sum up my main thoughts, I trust SVS most. And I think she has two solid points today about Thunal being most probably town at this point given their interactions, and that Wilgy is a strong contender for mafia and probably needs to be solved sooner rather than later.
I don’t necessarily think Sean is mafia for their Thunal suspicion. Zenon defended Belzy a lot, but in a frustrated way, and not sure I can see that coming from a teammate.
I think I thought MR sounded decent earlier, so have to take a more solid look at that case and compare it to my earlier thoughts.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 6:55 pm [VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

Not too many posts during yesterday but those 2...mainly the first...are good imo.

So overall am townreading Splintsy.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 9:44 pm Hasn't failed me yet. So why should I stop?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 9:31 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 8:18 pm [VOTE: limecoke] aubergine

Don't mind you dying at this rate.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 7:39 pm Howdy folks, what I miss?

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 2:39 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 12:32 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 11:21 pm It's literally word for word what town Wilgy said in Champs

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 11:21 pm Maybe not really I'm exaggerating but it's damn close

1.) Can you provide a link so I don't need to search for hours on MU again?

2.) This is scum indicative, rather than town indicative IMO. Scum likes to recycle previous town thoughts. I literally go out of my way to commonly play extremely similarly to certain people game after game, and ask them similar questions in order to see this exact tell to good effect.

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ionship%29


Should be near the end of his iso

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 1:13 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 12:32 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 11:21 pm It's literally word for word what town Wilgy said in Champs

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 11:21 pm Maybe not really I'm exaggerating but it's damn close

1.) Can you provide a link so I don't need to search for hours on MU again?

2.) This is scum indicative, rather than town indicative IMO. Scum likes to recycle previous town thoughts. I literally go out of my way to commonly play extremely similarly to certain people game after game, and ask them similar questions in order to see this exact tell to good effect.

Funny enough this post breaks the Ladd Tell.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 11:21 pm It's literally word for word what town Wilgy said in Champs

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 11:21 pm Maybe not really I'm exaggerating but it's damn close

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 11:43 am If we are going to Thun it up, I am something like

Falcon > Radishes > Wilgy >anyone else

but could be convinced on Wilgy because I can't read the good doctor for shiz.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 12:24 am I kindly ask everyone to vote Thunal.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 12:16 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 12:13 am @Thunal33 why am I town?

I think Belzy's argument with you pretty clearly spews you town for one. Like this:

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:56 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:45 am [reads list with Belzy on the bottom]

This all is still based on very little. Your very early with such detailed read list this time. This does not make you necessirily town. Mostly thin air imo.

really reads as an attempt to discredit you.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 12:10 am

Belzy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 2:39 am So now Belzy Ted Zenon all at 3 in the poll. I would lynch Ted over Belzy and Zenon.

Anyone have a poll screenshot from around this time?

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2023 12:00 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:52 pm Hello? Anyone around?

I'm around!

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 12:07 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 12:00 pm Kate
Svs
Sean
Splints

Lime coke
Zenon
Robyn
Ted
Radish
falcon

Belzy
Epi
Wilgy
Thunal

I'm not really buying this. Not only do I think it's odd you have me as your top scumread, I also don't feel like town you would have Belzy this low since imo she's done a lot to show she's town. Wilgy being that low also sticks out to me. Could you explain those three?

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:39 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:37 pm I claim a thunderdome.

I am convinced Thunal is bad.

Vote Thunal.

I decline your thunderdome since I think you're town who can't get past suspecting me.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:34 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:31 pm @Thunal33 I'm thinking about doing the same thing SVS did yesterday - more-or-less coop-t the thread. No question.

Well, don't. I'd like some relatively quiet and exploring different directions time.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:23 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:20 pm I do not believe Thunal is exasperated.

I don't like dealing with suspicion on me even if I don't show it itt. My best games are ones where I'm confirmed town or treated like it. Read my private channel from the Upick game if you want.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:21 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:19 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:16 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:13 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:09 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 10:40 pm [VOTE: Thunal] aubergine

I hope you're not seriously suspecting me.

This emotion... is completely faked.

Thunal as a person regularly deals with suspicion from me. I can provide evidence from essentially every game Thun and I have played together since she came back. This is just... not right. Period.

@Thunal33 do you disagree?

I think I should be clear town and I'm a bit exasperated that you're still suspecting me. Me and Belzy are definitely not w/w. My first reaction when you started quoting d1 posts from me was that you were reaction testing me so I was hoping it was a reaction test.

Why do you think you're clear town?

The "misclick" on my wagon and the fact Belzy's dynamic with me was imo clearly one where she was pocketing me and trying to convince me of things and not a teammate dynamic.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:21 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:19 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:16 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:13 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:09 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 10:40 pm [VOTE: Thunal] aubergine

I hope you're not seriously suspecting me.

This emotion... is completely faked.

Thunal as a person regularly deals with suspicion from me. I can provide evidence from essentially every game Thun and I have played together since she came back. This is just... not right. Period.

@Thunal33 do you disagree?

I think I should be clear town and I'm a bit exasperated that you're still suspecting me. Me and Belzy are definitely not w/w. My first reaction when you started quoting d1 posts from me was that you were reaction testing me so I was hoping it was a reaction test.

Why do you think you're clear town?

The "misclick" on my wagon and the fact Belzy's dynamic with me was imo clearly one where she was pocketing me and trying to convince me of things and not a teammate dynamic.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:16 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:13 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:09 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 10:40 pm [VOTE: Thunal] aubergine

I hope you're not seriously suspecting me.

This emotion... is completely faked.

Thunal as a person regularly deals with suspicion from me. I can provide evidence from essentially every game Thun and I have played together since she came back. This is just... not right. Period.

@Thunal33 do you disagree?

I think I should be clear town and I'm a bit exasperated that you're still suspecting me. Me and Belzy are definitely not w/w. My first reaction when you started quoting d1 posts from me was that you were reaction testing me so I was hoping it was a reaction test.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:09 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 10:40 pm [VOTE: Thunal] aubergine

I hope you're not seriously suspecting me.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:05 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 10:59 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 10:58 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 10:46 pm @falcon45ca I haven't forgotten about you though. Where are you?

Just got home from work.





No I don't think you're wolfy for pushing me, cuz I don't think you're pushing me, I think you're just trying to get a rise out of me




Which is kinda towny IMO

You aren't being townie though.

What?




You crazy man, I'm prolly the towniest town who ever towned

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:05 pm Will do some analysis but off the top of my head I suspect Wilgy. It pinged me that Belzy took the effort to say I was wrong in calling her and Wilgy w/w. Like if she wasn't teamed with Wilgy, wouldn't she just not respond to me calling them w/w and let me wrongly think they were?

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 9:58 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 7:49 pm

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 6:42 pm
I would have picked SVS for inexplicable reasons of gut reads, but I like your take. I’ll put you in town lean.

You’ve played with me long enough to know I take more suspish when I’m town. I don’t give much of a damn how I sound when I’m town and say whatever. People almost always read me as null this early when I’m bad since I’m about a zillion percent more careful. I respect inexplicable gut reads, though. You do you.

I had to walk away this AM As I found the tone in here a bit frustrating, which probably didn’t help.

I think Kates frustrated reaction to Sean’s push at her was a good look, but I haven’t read back past the last post I wrote this AM and the one I’m replying to.

@robyn i saw your @ earlier, and I’ll get you in the AM. I have fairly complex thoughts on your game in general. But to be honest to address your question, I’d have to go back past the last page, and that won’t be happening now. I’ll get you and whatever else I need to address in the AM.

I decided to check this against se7en, and overall I think it checks out and SVS did lie low a bit more there. At first I thought the response to tutuu I quoted below was drawing attention from her but it feels like she was walking back the poke in the end.

From Se7en:

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:14 am @tutuu , Trivia is maybe the wrong word. Little suspicions for weird reasons, or iffy reasons. It feels like either mud slinging or reaction testing? And I have problems telling the two apart. Is reaction testing a you thing?

You seem a bit jumpy here which you did not do iirc in the recent game I played with you as a civ.

You feel like you’re trying too hard to find something, maybe? I have to go read you in that other game, maybe I am misrecalling.