The Syndicate

Before shooting any further, i think we should look into

1) If captain pickec players. Who each would pick.

2) Dislexicon died voting these people:

112
DrWilgy
Paopan
Sabie
Sig
TonyStarkPrime

Who are LHF?
Who interacted with Dizzy?
Why Dizzy voted them?

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:59 am
sabie12 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:55 am
sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:44 am Also just Did something
Did you just shoot nutella?
Oops?

In my defense I did do an ISO read and was seeing scum Nutella from that. Buuut, my bad sorry

I would have shot Alexa and not nutella but ok, at least my tinfoil is gone cause having seen arsonist would make me think thst nutella could be scum too.

alexa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:55 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:51 am A shot was fired!

@nutella has died and flips TOWN! they reveal as:

Arsonist

Starting n1 you can douse one person per night. You may instead choose to ignite, killing all the players you have previously doused. You may not douse and ignite in the same night. Both your douses and your ignites can be roleblocked but will pierce normal protection.
Day continues!

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@ 112
@ alexa
@ Belzy
@ c4e5g3d5
@ Creature
@ DrWilgy
@ dyachei
@ falcon45ca
@ Guillotine
@ hollowkatt
@ ilario
@ Justplayingitcool
@ LinearPoint
@ Master Radishes
@ Paopan
@ Phil and Gloria
@ Porscha
@ sabie12
@ sig
@ Sloonei
@ TonyStarkPrime

rip nutella'

@Guillotine this is why i thought she was maf or 3P

I get it now.

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:53 am Now I understand why alexa claimed the guilty on nutella SOD1

Me too

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:28 am i just doubt it's as simple as the captain picking the strongest scum players

Who said anything about strongest. Why people play mafia? To play with friends or the people they sympathize.

The captain picked first, people who they love playing with and second people who god read them, by making them partners, no more god reads, it's what i'd do.

If i was a wolf, my team would be really obvious.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:19 am today's a good day to kill mac and nutella and alexa and sloonei and flip four wolves if wolves chose people and not roles

Given it is a champions game and how close you are as a community, im certain the captain chose people. I would not have passed that opportunity up to build my dream scum team.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:21 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:18 am it's somewhat a question of who was a viable wagon when dizzy voted too, it's close to impossible to place (close to) 8 votes without hitting a scum buddy
Maybe that is how i can contribute to this game, identifying who could be scum in those 8 or if they all are spewed town by Dizzy.

I can work with a narrowed down list

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:18 am it's somewhat a question of who was a viable wagon when dizzy voted too, it's close to impossible to place (close to) 8 votes without hitting a scum buddy

Maybe that is how i can contribute to this game, identifying who could be scum in those 8 or if they all are spewed town by Dizzy.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:15 am So

Wilgy
Papopa
Sig
Sabie

Maybe TSP

Shouldn’t be chopped/moved to next round.

Why post your name there? It is implied that you'd consider yourself not choppable no?

Derps can be faked, i intentionally and fully knowingly derp as both alignments to try to clear myself, more as town because why not, im town.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:04 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:02 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:00 am The list is pretty towny in general, so there weren't a lot of options. I think nutella is gaining scum equity but really probably can't have leveled up her game this much, Mac has standard townie energy, Dya shot a wolf, Belzy has mech. I'm not sure if I agree with your read that wolves are definitely on your wagon but to the extent that there might be wolves there they're almost certainly in these two names
If there are no wolves on my wagon, why do you think my wagon is getting traction?
I think you haven't entirely grokked that everyone has 8 votes and so having 6 votes on you is about the equivalent of having like one vote on you normally. The interactions with Dizzy look bad enough for you that some townies are throwing a vote there without thinking much about it. there's also some bs about alexa that I didn't understand

that said, I'll say that I find it somewhat unlikely that there are /no/ wolves on your wagon

From my point of view, Dizzy shaded my suspicion on Nutella/Alexa it was day 1 and it was a committed post to make for day 1, so there is definitely a wolf in nutella/alexa. Dizzy also knows that i can read him based on interactions with him, so he threw a townread at me to get me to take my my guard down because the last game we played here, he did the same, i pushed them for it and they flipped town.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:00 am The list is pretty towny in general, so there weren't a lot of options. I think nutella is gaining scum equity but really probably can't have leveled up her game this much, Mac has standard townie energy, Dya shot a wolf, Belzy has mech. I'm not sure if I agree with your read that wolves are definitely on your wagon but to the extent that there might be wolves there they're almost certainly in these two names

If there are no wolves on my wagon, why do you think my wagon is getting traction?

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:58 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:12 am On page 16 or something

Town:
Alexa
Guillo
Sean
Marmot
Belzy
Ilario

This list could probably be longer, but these are the people I care more about.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:20 am We should not chop Marmot D1. He's probably town and in any case his alignment will show, and I'd rather have him around if he's town.
I know marmot is dead, but this shows some heavy team defense going on I could see that being a agreed mafia strategy and definitely think who dizzy pushed to save should be eyed

Now this post is informative. Thanks!

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:56 am lp and paopan

I like this post, it looks committed.

Why them?

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:55 am Also it’s ridiculous we have this many posts on day 2 I’m probably not catching up.

People need to keep dying so we can get thread pace to a responsible amount

This is a townie post.

There are wolves on my wagon, who are they?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:51 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:49 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:48 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:47 pm [VOTE: 112 Wilgy Paopan TSP Sabie Sig] aubergine

Suddenly I have votes to spare but that's ok
There's prolly at max 2 teammates in this list
Why do you say that. Explain please.
Dizzy does not like to bus. Especially if the team has no reason to do so, and w/ only 1 Maf down at this stage, it's not likely that Dizzy would bus outside of necessity

Then why would Dizzy include any wolf in that list? I thought you had reads on any of them names.

dyachei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:57 am i've been pretty clear about wanting to be dead before friday. not sure why you think I'd kill a wolf if I were a wolf for cred

Why am I wolf lean to you?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:48 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:47 pm [VOTE: 112 Wilgy Paopan TSP Sabie Sig] aubergine

Suddenly I have votes to spare but that's ok
There's prolly at max 2 teammates in this list

Why do you say that. Explain please.

Today i have time to play.

If anyone wants to shoot me you can, i promise you im not a bomb, im not the type to trade my slot as a wolf for just one town, when i rand wolf i play my best to take several townies down before i fall.

Im town in this game and you can shoot me to confirm it. Don't chop me because then my legacy will be discarded because wolves will manipulate my chop and gaslight town for their decision (game gasligh, not real life gaslight, please know the difference) under the pretext of “You chopped Guillo too” and discredit you as well. Dont waste your time chopping me, shoot me. It is better or give me a chance to solve this game in my free time, yah?

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:49 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:18 pm I need to leave for a few hours but it might be for the rest of the day maybe.

If you are gonna chop me or shoot me, do it today, today is the best day because im not invested, i haven had the time to play here and read all of it. Please don't wait until i get invested in the game to kill me, don't waste my time.

If im not chopped i promise i will keep a watchful eye during the night and try to out some thoughts we can work with tomorrow.
Guillo what happened to this?

I havent had time

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:50 am Reading guillos iso I’m less sure of him being a hit now

He does have some decent moments in it

Reading your ISO it gives me vibes of a wolf who shot another wolf for cred to be honest.

Although it could also be you fearing that im fooling you again like in our last game, so what is it, is your shade thrown at me agenda or guillo fear? Hmm?

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alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:31 pm there's a chance she is town it is not exactly a red check i won't know for sure until tomorrow or the next day

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:37 am
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:35 am
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:35 am
alexa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:32 amvote: alexa
nahhhh, dw dizzy snowed me too with the emotional stuff first time we played. theyre a great wolf.

guillo might have had some w/w interactions with dizzy btw

/vote guillo
which post?
Honestly I can’t remember, you might have to iso guillo. I just remember thinking that his read on dizzy felt fake as fuck and I told myself if dizzy flipped scum I should tunnel guillo

Maybe my memory is off

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nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:10 am If anyone has another day vig, just blast guillo 100%, before he even posts, no regrets

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:37 am And if you are really movitated to play this game, then your give me more time is just agenda

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:42 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:40 am
Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:36 am Guillotine, if you really have a case on them, quote those posts, or tell me. We got 5k+ posts. Things get lost in here. I always re explain or quote my cases when being asked. Dizzy also insulted me for not remembering everything and he flipped mafia. It is not cooperative
I'm not Dizzy and you can't get insulted if you admitted not remembering what I've posted so either you got bad memory or you are LAZY because ISOs are a feature that exist in this forum and the fact that you shaded me without even remembering my posts is even a bigger contradiction and OUTING for you. This is mafia 101 I don't know what else to say here.
You are getting rather personal than choosing to cooperate with me, so this goes nowhere.

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:45 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:40 am
Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:36 am Guillotine, if you really have a case on them, quote those posts, or tell me. We got 5k+ posts. Things get lost in here. I always re explain or quote my cases when being asked. Dizzy also insulted me for not remembering everything and he flipped mafia. It is not cooperative
I'm not Dizzy and you can't get insulted if you admitted not remembering what I've posted so either you got bad memory or you are LAZY because ISOs are a feature that exist in this forum and the fact that you shaded me without even remembering my posts is even a bigger contradiction and OUTING for you. This is mafia 101 I don't know what else to say here.
Guillo you have a shit attitude and you shouldnt be mad at belzy for not scrutinizing your ISO when you havent bothered reading theirs either (obviously).
I feel this dumb ass play of yours outs you as a lazy and aggressive town, but town none the less
Just tone it down and stop being purposely uncharitable in your reads

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:21 am
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:17 pm wait guillo claimed vig, @Guillotine do you claim one of the shots?
Hi! I have read absolutely nothing since last night and no, I didn't shoot anyone.

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Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:45 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:40 am
Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:36 am Guillotine, if you really have a case on them, quote those posts, or tell me. We got 5k+ posts. Things get lost in here. I always re explain or quote my cases when being asked. Dizzy also insulted me for not remembering everything and he flipped mafia. It is not cooperative
I'm not Dizzy and you can't get insulted if you admitted not remembering what I've posted so either you got bad memory or you are LAZY because ISOs are a feature that exist in this forum and the fact that you shaded me without even remembering my posts is even a bigger contradiction and OUTING for you. This is mafia 101 I don't know what else to say here.
Guillo you have a shit attitude and you shouldnt be mad at belzy for not scrutinizing your ISO when you havent bothered reading theirs either (obviously).
I feel this dumb ass play of yours outs you as a lazy and aggressive town, but town none the less
Just tone it down and stop being purposely uncharitable in your reads

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:20 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:22 pm Pao, Ender

1 or both is Maf
Can someone whose good at reading falcon gimme a read on him? I feel like he’s always out of the loop regardless of alignment and it’s hard for me to relay when it’s genuine or not until he gets more involved

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:38 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:37 am
Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:34 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:32 am
Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:28 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:23 am
Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:16 am

First d1: voting Axe, is town, but I just wanna get rid of Axe, refuse to do any real reading and therefore solving

D2: belzy pressures me and votes me, let's hardcore omgus here, pretend i am confident without reading the thread and i am out again

This is you
It is not OMGUS it is a legit read, you pushed me for something you didn't have any idea of.
You misread if you really believe that, but i find you just very shady.

D1 i don't remember a real case from you on anyone, only responding demotivated to play, and asked the thread if they wanna kill it now (on d1) cuz you are not invested yet, and say you will do more so after that, yet you once again ask more time, so you stall the will to contribute. You make some imo weird nutella alexa, dizzy talked you of that, so one of those two is scum, while that is no proof one of them are, and now you pretend i knew about a case from you on alexa nutella, but i never said i did know about such case coming from you, while actually i was asking a real case from you on them or anyone would be nice, so you really are shady how to use my words against me just to omgus me, and then add some confident attitude to it despite pretending not to be catched up, and then be all like im out again and continue refusing to really read and solve the game.
Take memory pills or something, your bad memory is not my problem to be honest, ISOs exist for a reason and mine is very short. I'm not demotivated, I've just been very busy! I waited for this game for a year! I wanted to play a Champions game lol.

You implied knowing about it when you shaded me for my suspicion on both Alexa and Nutella, why shade me if you dont know what I'm talking about then?
It is not in the spirit of playing a mafia champ together, or any any game together, to tell me to take memory pills.
My point is that you not remembering what I've posted on day 1 IS NOT MY PROBLEM, IT IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.
That doesn't change the fact that first sentence is uncalled for. And don't tell me what my problems are. I am voting you, and you refuse to cooperate

Everything people say here is a damn problem man, fuck this at this rate I'm gonna get banned for talking.

Memes and images mode activated!

You get this now.

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:36 am Guillotine, if you really have a case on them, quote those posts, or tell me. We got 5k+ posts. Things get lost in here. I always re explain or quote my cases when being asked. Dizzy also insulted me for not remembering everything and he flipped mafia. It is not cooperative

I'm not Dizzy and you can't get insulted if you admitted not remembering what I've posted so either you got bad memory or you are LAZY because ISOs are a feature that exist in this forum and the fact that you shaded me without even remembering my posts is even a bigger contradiction and OUTING for you. This is mafia 101 I don't know what else to say here.

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:34 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:32 am
Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:28 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:23 am
Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:16 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:14 am I didn't have to read 40 pages to get you a pelt, my work is done here.
First d1: voting Axe, is town, but I just wanna get rid of Axe, refuse to do any real reading and therefore solving

D2: belzy pressures me and votes me, let's hardcore omgus here, pretend i am confident without reading the thread and i am out again

This is you
It is not OMGUS it is a legit read, you pushed me for something you didn't have any idea of.
You misread if you really believe that, but i find you just very shady.

D1 i don't remember a real case from you on anyone, only responding demotivated to play, and asked the thread if they wanna kill it now (on d1) cuz you are not invested yet, and say you will do more so after that, yet you once again ask more time, so you stall the will to contribute. You make some imo weird nutella alexa, dizzy talked you of that, so one of those two is scum, while that is no proof one of them are, and now you pretend i knew about a case from you on alexa nutella, but i never said i did know about such case coming from you, while actually i was asking a real case from you on them or anyone would be nice, so you really are shady how to use my words against me just to omgus me, and then add some confident attitude to it despite pretending not to be catched up, and then be all like im out again and continue refusing to really read and solve the game.
Take memory pills or something, your bad memory is not my problem to be honest, ISOs exist for a reason and mine is very short. I'm not demotivated, I've just been very busy! I waited for this game for a year! I wanted to play a Champions game lol.

You implied knowing about it when you shaded me for my suspicion on both Alexa and Nutella, why shade me if you dont know what I'm talking about then?
It is not in the spirit of playing a mafia champ together, or any any game together, to tell me to take memory pills.

My point is that you not remembering what I've posted on day 1 IS NOT MY PROBLEM, IT IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:28 am i answered you

No, you didn't. Why say inb4 hellbussing? Why make that comment as town to create paranoia of possible WIFOM, stop doing that if you are town please, there is no need.

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:28 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:23 am
Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:16 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:14 am I didn't have to read 40 pages to get you a pelt, my work is done here.
First d1: voting Axe, is town, but I just wanna get rid of Axe, refuse to do any real reading and therefore solving

D2: belzy pressures me and votes me, let's hardcore omgus here, pretend i am confident without reading the thread and i am out again

This is you
It is not OMGUS it is a legit read, you pushed me for something you didn't have any idea of.
You misread if you really believe that, but i find you just very shady.

D1 i don't remember a real case from you on anyone, only responding demotivated to play, and asked the thread if they wanna kill it now (on d1) cuz you are not invested yet, and say you will do more so after that, yet you once again ask more time, so you stall the will to contribute. You make some imo weird nutella alexa, dizzy talked you of that, so one of those two is scum, while that is no proof one of them are, and now you pretend i knew about a case from you on alexa nutella, but i never said i did know about such case coming from you, while actually i was asking a real case from you on them or anyone would be nice, so you really are shady how to use my words against me just to omgus me, and then add some confident attitude to it despite pretending not to be catched up, and then be all like im out again and continue refusing to really read and solve the game.

Take memory pills or something, your bad memory is not my problem to be honest, ISOs exist for a reason and mine is very short. I'm not demotivated, I've just been very busy! I waited for this game for a year! I wanted to play a Champions game lol.

You implied knowing about it when you shaded me for my suspicion on both Alexa and Nutella, why shade me if you dont know what I'm talking about then?

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:27 am guillo if you're gonna just pivot into suspecting me for no reason im gonna have to ask you to not k?

I'm just asking you what is the purpose of that comment?

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:22 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:17 am I gotta go to sleep. Betzy is a wolf, trust me on this, Betzy had no idea what I was talking about on regards to Nutella and Alexa, pretended they knew, pushed me for it and then contradicted themselves by acknowledging they don't know what I'm talking about.
I did not contradict myself. You choose to point out like as if I did. I never said I knew about your caae on Alexa and Nutella, yet you claim I do. I am simply asking for a real case on them, cuz so far you just say a little and abandon on, after leaving a vote on someone for no good reason. Hence the Axe vote, and now me.

Dont need to interact with me, you are a wolf and if I reach F3 with you I'm snap-voting you. Unless you get mech cleared of course, but other than that, you are dead.

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:24 am speaking of hiding to nothing thats two mafia that have died that died while i was voting for them lol

inb4 hElLbUsSiNg

what is the purpose of that comment?

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:23 am I do think you not knowing that is suuuuper townie tho

Not knowing what?

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:16 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:14 am I didn't have to read 40 pages to get you a pelt, my work is done here.
First d1: voting Axe, is town, but I just wanna get rid of Axe, refuse to do any real reading and therefore solving

D2: belzy pressures me and votes me, let's hardcore omgus here, pretend i am confident without reading the thread and i am out again

This is you

It is not OMGUS it is a legit read, you pushed me for something you didn't have any idea of.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:18 am kids these days

what is the point of this comment?

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:16 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:14 am I didn't have to read 40 pages to get you a pelt, my work is done here.
First d1: voting Axe, is town, but I just wanna get rid of Axe, refuse to do any real reading and therefore solving

D2: belzy pressures me and votes me, let's hardcore omgus here, pretend i am confident without reading the thread and i am out again

This is you

I don't wanna talk about NAA, I'm done with that player, it boils my blood and every time I talk about him I get warnings, so it is pretty clear that he is loved here and love their anti-town plays, end of discussion. If I was a vig I would have shot him and I dont regret voting him.

I gotta go to sleep. Betzy is a wolf, trust me on this, Betzy had no idea what I was talking about on regards to Nutella and Alexa, pretended they knew, pushed me for it and then contradicted themselves by acknowledging they don't know what I'm talking about.

Belzy is ok. Even the best players make newbie scum moves that outs them sometimes. It happens to everyone.

I didn't have to read 40 pages to get you a pelt, my work is done here.

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:56 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:53 am
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:52 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:48 am @illario, why did you shoot Dizzy?
His eod felt slimy and he was making very reachy cases on people like ender and creature who were obv town
Can you look into my case on Nutella and Alexa and how Dizzy got in there to talk me out of it, it should spew me town and one of them wolf.
Why would that spew you town? What if nutella and Alexa are town; wouldn't that make you more likely scum?[/b]

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:06 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:28 am Is anyone mech clear? anything I should know? I don't wanna read 40 pages to try to catch up again, please no. Give me a summary please.

It's just... all game long you say you are barely caught up, voted Axe d1 cuz of Axe' while saying even if he is town to be okay with that. Also now asking us to be patienced with you, yet for some reason you can say one wolf is in Nutella and Alexa... and where is your case on them anyways? They are townreads of mine. So where is your involvement regarding a lot of other people that deserve some heat?

In the first bolded red you pushed me for suspecting nutella and alexa based on a case I outed on day 1 and in the second bolded, you just claimed not having any idea of what that case was.

I got cha wolf! You are fabricating pushes LOL.

Funny right at this moment, Paopan is voting Betzy and is voting me with Betzy.

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