The Syndicate

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:56 am @Dana, of course the decision to heal Justplayitcool rest in your hands but i would not if i was you.

Check this out.

If I was scum and saw that you flipped healer, i would not poison a townie and that is because it will automatically spew him town, scum have to avoid mech clears as much as possible.
Justplayingitcool has been a null all game. Why would scum choose to poison him? Instead of someone with a louder voice? They would not. But what i would do as scum is have the mafia poisoner poison me after your flip, to gambit a save that will mech clear me as town.

Now, i have another scenario. @NotAnAxehole didn't rolecop you but he rolecopped JPC and scum decided he will be the poisoned target today and decided to fake a redcheck on you, not knowing that you were a healer post morten for some unknown illogical reason. All of that instead of night killing JPC instead of IBA.. nah! It just takes too many illogical decisions to poison JPC there. No, scum gambit poisoned one of their own to mech clear him or a townie poisoned JPC, either way, the poison has to go through.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:02 am

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:01 am What's the Mac spew so far?

Definitively IBA town, I don't know if there was anything else of note.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:58 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:55 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:50 am

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NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:43 am

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NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:27 am

You can't fix it by killing me.

We can try and we will and if we can’t, we can always say that we lost because of you.

You can justify it however you want, it matters not to me.

I know and that is precisely the point. You don’t care for our wincon, you are essentially antitown regardless of your alignment.

If you are scum forget all that i said, cause i will understand why you did everything you did after game, in fact if you are i will want to rand scum with you in a future game, honest truth!

How about, if the vig shot Hits Mafia, we burry the hatchet, if it hits town, I'll vote for myself and we can lose

Is it a day vig? I cant promise you to bury the hatchet but it’d get me to back off and re-evaluate.

Yeah, shots been fired.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:50 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:49 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:43 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:42 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:27 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:16 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:38 am

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Congrats, now die and let us try to fix the mess you caused.

You can't fix it by killing me.

We can try and we will and if we can’t, we can always say that we lost because of you.

You can justify it however you want, it matters not to me.

I know and that is precisely the point. You don’t care for our wincon, you are essentially antitown regardless of your alignment.

If you are scum forget all that i said, cause i will understand why you did everything you did after game, in fact if you are i will want to rand scum with you in a future game, honest truth!

How about, if the vig shot Hits Mafia, we burry the hatchet, if it hits town, I'll vote for myself and we can lose

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:43 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:42 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:27 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:16 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:38 am

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Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:35 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 9:58 am I think we're going to shoot between Martin & Guillotine because both clear me if they flip mafia (and Martin would also clear Grogu).

Go ahead and drop your thoughts here. If we're wrong, I accept the loss and we kill me today.

I'm gonna stop memeing with you because you need to be addressed with a serious tone.

I'm not scared of you and I don't believe anything you have to say, the moment you faked a redcheck on one of us and saw it through without rescinding it, it is the moment that your words lost any weight they had.

If you are scum, im not gonna say it was well played because there are many ways you could have continued to seed chaos without outing yourself, but at least i will understand that you are doing your job, which is to kill as many of us as possible.

But if you are town, your play was not just bad play, It was game throwing for several reasons.

1) You stole Day 2 from us, the time we could have used to scum hunt, we used to tie the “knots” of possible associations of wolf!Dana and see who was “spewed” by her. Notice how i didnt vote her until she outed a read list, i was waiting for that before i voted her.

2) Because by policy you always yeet an unrescinded redcheck. So you denied us from the chance to analyze her wagon too because anyone can say “i voted Dana cause of the redcheck” and it is fair.

3) You lost us a slot that before your redcheck, i had townread. It is specially hard for me to town hunt and form a towncore because im inheritently distrusting of people, you took that away from me because i had made my peace that Dana was just a newbi, who randed town and she was indeed camping.

4) Despite her utility as being able to heal post morten, yeeting her gets wolves closer to their wincon, she does not count towards our numbers, she cant vote nothing.
By the way @Dana do not heal Justplayitcool. I’ll tell you why after this.

5) Because you have not shown true remorse and that is dangerous to leave unpunished, again if you are scum, i understand it, you are doing your job, but if you are town, we cannot allow players like you go unnoticed and unpunished. This a team's game, not just your game to do whatever you want in it without considering the consequences. There is more of this i would like to say but i will after game.

For all of these reasons i cant trust you and you should be yeeted today, scum would be happy to keep you alive, because the longer you survive the more we tinfoil, scum knows that WE have to get rid of you, you've broken our trust, not theirs.

Success

Congrats, now die and let us try to fix the mess you caused.

You can't fix it by killing me.

We can try and we will and if we can’t, we can always say that we lost because of you.

You can justify it however you want, it matters not to me.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:27 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:16 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:38 am

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Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:35 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 9:58 am I think we're going to shoot between Martin & Guillotine because both clear me if they flip mafia (and Martin would also clear Grogu).

Go ahead and drop your thoughts here. If we're wrong, I accept the loss and we kill me today.

I'm gonna stop memeing with you because you need to be addressed with a serious tone.

I'm not scared of you and I don't believe anything you have to say, the moment you faked a redcheck on one of us and saw it through without rescinding it, it is the moment that your words lost any weight they had.

If you are scum, im not gonna say it was well played because there are many ways you could have continued to seed chaos without outing yourself, but at least i will understand that you are doing your job, which is to kill as many of us as possible.

But if you are town, your play was not just bad play, It was game throwing for several reasons.

1) You stole Day 2 from us, the time we could have used to scum hunt, we used to tie the “knots” of possible associations of wolf!Dana and see who was “spewed” by her. Notice how i didnt vote her until she outed a read list, i was waiting for that before i voted her.

2) Because by policy you always yeet an unrescinded redcheck. So you denied us from the chance to analyze her wagon too because anyone can say “i voted Dana cause of the redcheck” and it is fair.

3) You lost us a slot that before your redcheck, i had townread. It is specially hard for me to town hunt and form a towncore because im inheritently distrusting of people, you took that away from me because i had made my peace that Dana was just a newbi, who randed town and she was indeed camping.

4) Despite her utility as being able to heal post morten, yeeting her gets wolves closer to their wincon, she does not count towards our numbers, she cant vote nothing.
By the way @Dana do not heal Justplayitcool. I’ll tell you why after this.

5) Because you have not shown true remorse and that is dangerous to leave unpunished, again if you are scum, i understand it, you are doing your job, but if you are town, we cannot allow players like you go unnoticed and unpunished. This a team's game, not just your game to do whatever you want in it without considering the consequences. There is more of this i would like to say but i will after game.

For all of these reasons i cant trust you and you should be yeeted today, scum would be happy to keep you alive, because the longer you survive the more we tinfoil, scum knows that WE have to get rid of you, you've broken our trust, not theirs.

Success

Congrats, now die and let us try to fix the mess you caused.

You can't fix it by killing me.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:11 am Guillotine is widely townread for little good reason, but his thought process around the vigil / today / policy is very hard to see coming from scum. I think scum would have given up on trying to policy me which Guillo has been wanting to do since D1

Butters I can't really talk about probably without violating site rules. So all I'll say is that from D2 onward it seems clear that Butters actually believed Luckbox was mafia and wouldn't have killed him otherwise. Thus they are town.

Seanzie during the d1 event allowed himself to be checked (which didn't go through because of Lomo) but seanzie could have easily pushed back on it and said, hey what about we wait for this guy to come back and then just arrange so that all 6 are never online simultaneously to change the vote. He could have done so without putting.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:38 am

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Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:35 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 9:58 am I think we're going to shoot between Martin & Guillotine because both clear me if they flip mafia (and Martin would also clear Grogu).

Go ahead and drop your thoughts here. If we're wrong, I accept the loss and we kill me today.

I'm gonna stop memeing with you because you need to be addressed with a serious tone.

I'm not scared of you and I don't believe anything you have to say, the moment you faked a redcheck on one of us and saw it through without rescinding it, it is the moment that your words lost any weight they had.

If you are scum, im not gonna say it was well played because there are many ways you could have continued to seed chaos without outing yourself, but at least i will understand that you are doing your job, which is to kill as many of us as possible.

But if you are town, your play was not just bad play, It was game throwing for several reasons.

1) You stole Day 2 from us, the time we could have used to scum hunt, we used to tie the “knots” of possible associations of wolf!Dana and see who was “spewed” by her. Notice how i didnt vote her until she outed a read list, i was waiting for that before i voted her.

2) Because by policy you always yeet an unrescinded redcheck. So you denied us from the chance to analyze her wagon too because anyone can say “i voted Dana cause of the redcheck” and it is fair.

3) You lost us a slot that before your redcheck, i had townread. It is specially hard for me to town hunt and form a towncore because im inheritently distrusting of people, you took that away from me because i had made my peace that Dana was just a newbi, who randed town and she was indeed camping.

4) Despite her utility as being able to heal post morten, yeeting her gets wolves closer to their wincon, she does not count towards our numbers, she cant vote nothing.
By the way @Dana do not heal Justplayitcool. I’ll tell you why after this.

5) Because you have not shown true remorse and that is dangerous to leave unpunished, again if you are scum, i understand it, you are doing your job, but if you are town, we cannot allow players like you go unnoticed and unpunished. This a team's game, not just your game to do whatever you want in it without considering the consequences. There is more of this i would like to say but i will after game.

For all of these reasons i cant trust you and you should be yeeted today, scum would be happy to keep you alive, because the longer you survive the more we tinfoil, scum knows that WE have to get rid of you, you've broken our trust, not theirs.

Success

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:59 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:58 am By the way, i now realize that maybe scum didnt believe my bait yesterday and killed IBA, suspecting IBA was the vig as IBA was very aggressive towards Mac on Day 1.

Unless you're scum and set up fake bait

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 9:58 am I think we're going to shoot between Martin & Guillotine because both clear me if they flip mafia (and Martin would also clear Grogu).

Go ahead and drop your thoughts here. If we're wrong, I accept the loss and we kill me today.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 8:09 am @Vulgard @falcon45ca @hollowkatt @Guillotine

Might want to unvote me until the vig shot is resolved

Also, I might die today, but I'm not getting chopped at deadline, so get that through your heads.

Felicis wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 10:10 pm Lol still a dick. Kinda proving my point I'm fact, but enh. I'm kinda tired of engaging with you and you're sort of shit to play with. Gonna take a step back for a bit.

Felicis wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 10:01 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:48 pm

Felicis wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:07 pm There are no jesters in this game

Felicis wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:08 pm Make a real read

You act as though it's easy to understand your tone through gifs and shitty memes, and it's really not. You don't have to be a dick about it afterwards.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:18 pm But yeah faking a red on Dana in particular is a good look. It’s not like Axe hammered.


But. But. But. Knowing Dana’s role after the fact could be luck. I don’t know if it really matters. Like...you could pretty easily confirm that ability without even adding another person to the soup line. Probably a safe bet it’s a good look.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:15 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:10 pm *votes guilo*

[some time passes]

*votes Long Con*

Grogu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:08 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:50 pm

Axe is 100% town. Trust me

This is slightly angleshoot based on a hopeless game that guillotine replaced out of due to the game being hopeless.. but yeah, Guillotine seems far too engaged for the game state. I dont like anything about his game at the moment.

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Grogu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:08 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:50 pm

Axe is 100% town. Trust me

Grogu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:06 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:32 pm The current wagon is a bit strong for Grogu to be mafia I think. I was thinking if Grogu is mafia, it would become very hard to kill him over me, yet here we are.

Guillo reaction looks good to the Felicis claim. I knew he was lying so this is better.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:03 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:34 pm @TonyStarkPrime Without claiming your role or any other information, can you claim who you targetted last night?

guilooo

Felicis wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:07 pm There are no jesters in this game

Felicis wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:08 pm Make a real read

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:41 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:38 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:32 pm The current wagon is a bit strong for Grogu to be mafia I think. I was thinking if Grogu is mafia, it would become very hard to kill him over me, yet here we are.

If you want my honest opinion I don't think you were ever getting deleted today.

It was going to be an episode like me yelling at Lost Moneky over the event. People were just going to yell at you and then get back to doing their things. If they didn't, they may have been a wolf.

@Guillotine

Felicis wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:20 pm You literally don't know what other powers I have or had so please chill. I can't read your mind especially if you're posting in fucking memes the whole time dude. Like. What

Felicis wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:07 pm Hi I've also finally decided to come clean. Maybe this is a shit idea and I'll die for it I don't know, but after the Axe fiasco I think town deserves as much accurate information as possible right now, especially with 7 of us down.

So, here goes:



I really hope that gif formatted properly, but if not;

Hello, Zuko here.

I avenged KZA/Mai and killed Mac/Azula N1. For my honour and the honour of the Town. I didn't counterclaim D2 because when Guillo claimed the kill, I was confused and wanted to know where he was trying to take it. It didn't really go anywhere though, or spark discussion in any way.

Guillo, this is why I questioned you D2 about your play. I don't necessarily think you're scum, in fact, if we have a 3p faction like I think we do in this game (it's just a hunch, things feel extra unhinged for some reason, I could absolutely be way off), I'd probably put you in that category based on your posts. You're solving (in your own way lol), you *mostly* seem to have town's interests in mind in the sense that you seem to be scum-hunting, but there's still something not sitting right with me.

Did you really just claim my kill to throw it in Mac's face, or did you have other reasons? Why fake it? Were you hoping I'd counterclaim right away?

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:02 pm

Grogu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 3:17 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 2:31 pm

Grogu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:23 am Axe can get a free day, he’s weird but likely just town. The story is so bad that it cannot come from a wolf lol

I can tell you've never wolfed with someone like Guillo before.

I did once. He was pretty bad

Try again lol it's worth it

Grogu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 3:19 pm

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Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 2:38 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 2:31 pm

Grogu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:23 am Axe can get a free day, he’s weird but likely just town. The story is so bad that it cannot come from a wolf lol

I can tell you've never wolfed with someone like Guillo before.

You died fast lol.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 2:31 pm

Grogu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:23 am Axe can get a free day, he’s weird but likely just town. The story is so bad that it cannot come from a wolf lol

I can tell you've never wolfed with someone like Guillo before.

Grogu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:51 pm

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Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:42 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:39 pm Grogu part of me feels like you're diving for derp-clears here which you've done in the past as scum

We played several games now, do you think I push you as scum here? Think about that for a second… you are smart.

Grogu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:43 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:38 pm [VOTE: Grogu] aubergine

I'm not interested in trying to lynch thread-health again in the next few hours.

We all know what happened. It was a fake red apparently. All there is to do is to decide upon it and not fuss about it further. Someone may even night-kill him for all we know.

Why kill axe? Let him.
And why vote me? For defending him? What is he’s town? Does that change your wromg decision?

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:39 pm Grogu part of me feels like you're diving for derp-clears here which you've done in the past as scum

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:36 pm
As I told Martin, blaming everyone was a joke because I wanted to be an entitled prick for @Guillotine

Grogu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:26 pm

Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:31 am Grogu's ISO is pretty villagery in the way they're off in their own world with sunshine and rainbows.

I am possibly getting pocketed by this, but I really do think it's towny.

Zero worries from dababy.
I am town. Thanks for the observation but the rainbows have faded after the unfortunate flip of Dana. I thought the game was going to be very easy after the red check.

Talk to me about axe. I think he’s town here and I actually do not like guillo reaction as much.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 2:02 am
TBH, if you guys just were better at forming wagons, I wouldn't have had to claim a red check. Both Sig and Dana could have defended themselves and didn't Ender defended himself, and I didn't pursue him further once I found him to be town. It's just my style to push with unrelenting pressure until / unless the person shows themselves to be OBVIOUS town, if they don't, then yeet them and shrug.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 2:33 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 2:26 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 2:03 am So really, yesterday is on you guys, not me.

[VOTE: NotAnAxehole] aubergine

[VOTE: NotAnAxehole] aubergine

[VOTE: NotAnAxehole] aubergine

You are either scum or a game thrower, i dont want you in this game.

Im parking on you, see you guys the next day.

How is it game throwing to force town to vote on your read? It was incorrect and yeah, people don't like fake checks, but it isn't game throwing.

I fucked up, but yeah, don't tell me you thought Dana was doing anything other than lolcating... That's what everyone except for the scum team would have perceived because she wasn't being towny. So no I don't see how that flipping town makes me an automatic target.

I made a play, it didn't work. Get over it and let's get scum today.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 11:50 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 11:07 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 10:27 am

I mean duh, yeah? I thought that was the conclusion we'd arrived at on D1 post event

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 10:29 am

Grogu wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:24 am Heal the poison. Imo