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by Guillotine
Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:33 am
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Topic: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [END]
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [END]

Epignosis wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 9:57 pm
Guillotine wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 6:44 pm Do we get signature banners?
You probably don't want them.
But..but…that is syndicate tradition =(
by Guillotine
Sun Jul 30, 2023 6:44 pm
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [END]

Do we get signature banners?
by Guillotine
Sat Jul 29, 2023 8:47 am
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [END]

Zenon and I were two sides of the same coin

I killed all my pocketed town (fake townreads) at night
Zenon killed all her townreads at day

Thank you everyone for a great challenge. The people we killed had the potential to find us out if we gave them time that is why i personally decided to kill them. I obviously underestimated Kate,
Wilgy letting me decide the kills was nice <3

See you next time.
by Guillotine
Fri Jul 28, 2023 11:25 pm
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 4]

Seanzie wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 11:20 pm Well done wolf team. Wilgy I was there on, but Guillo had me fooled. GG everyone!
Please don't tunnel me next time because of this game
by Guillotine
Fri Jul 28, 2023 11:10 pm
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 4]

DrWilgy wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 11:08 pm Guillo it was a pleasure wolfing with you.
Likewise my friend
by Guillotine
Fri Jul 28, 2023 11:06 pm
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 4]

You are one hell of a scary substitution Kate
by Guillotine
Fri Jul 28, 2023 11:05 pm
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 4]

[VOTE: KATE] aubergine

Image
by Guillotine
Fri Jul 28, 2023 11:03 pm
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 4]

I'm speechless
by Guillotine
Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:37 pm
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 4]

Kate wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:34 pm
Guillotine wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:31 pm
Kate wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:26 pm
Guillotine wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:23 pm
Kate wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:21 pm
Guillotine wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:19 pm
Kate wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:18 pm

But you didn't snap vote, you waited. You knew zenon thought it was epi and you. You waited until epi left and then played cat and mouse with zenon while I was literally in there screaming DO NOT VOTE EPI.
And why would I listen to you?
Because I was right? And, honestly, I was talking more to zenon who knows me.
And how would I know you were right?

To be honest I don't think you and Zenon are partnered but you were very performative at EoD like you KNEW Epignosis was gonna flip town.
Well by that point I already figured out the solve. So in my mind, I did know. Have we played together before because I'm always like that. I get very wrapped up in my own conclusions and I always trust my gut. Always.
Cool but you can't expect me to know what's in your mind, you still have to show me, us, that you believe what you believe and you replaced Robyn, whom I suspected of being frozen scum at one point, I had no reason to listen to you and trust you even though I thought you were unaligned with Zenon who I still scum read.
See I just don't believe that you scum read neon. What happened end of day was very much more you manipulating her than vice versa.
If I didn't scum read Neon I woulnt have killed Epignosis, cause it was the doubt in the back of my mind when Zenon killed Rem when she could have executed Epignosis that made me paranoid that Zenon was playing with my mind when she dared me to hammer Epignosis.
I thought that if Epignosis was her partner and I avoided to hammer him and someone else did, I would look partnered with him today.

So yah I collected the guts that Zenon questioned me of having and I did it.
by Guillotine
Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:34 pm
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 4]

and what happened to the poll?
by Guillotine
Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:33 pm
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 4]

Kate wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:28 pm
Guillotine wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:26 pm I'm thread spewed town, everyone has pushed at one point or another.

I'm also unaligned with everyone as I have pressured everyone hard.

And

Cape90, Seanzie and falcon all townread me, why do I kill those I pocketed instead of those wanting my guts and make my life easier as scum?

I'll wait.
Look I'm not a new player, so I'll wait isn't necessary. I'm sure you played an excellent game but distancing and "spewing" isn't definitive. Neither is voting a partner. I just don't buy it, because I've done it. I've done it all as a baddie and then came to thread and ask, why would I? It's all strategy.
You are reflecting. I'm a baddie but I'm also very optimal as scum, I kill threats then deal with the consequences when they happen. I don't go around killing my pockets as it delays my wincon as scum.
by Guillotine
Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:31 pm
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 4]

Kate wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:26 pm
Guillotine wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:23 pm
Kate wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:21 pm
Guillotine wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:19 pm
Kate wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:18 pm
Guillotine wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:15 pm
Kate wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:23 pm

And guillo pushed it over. You're honestly gonna tell me he's not a wolf. C'mon.
Of course Im not a wolf, if I was I could have just waited for him to go over without my help.

I feel like a moron though, I believe I threw the game here if we lose. We should have eliminated Zenon first but I thought Zenon was playing mind tricks with me to make me think that Epignosis was not his partner so I snapped voted him.
But you didn't snap vote, you waited. You knew zenon thought it was epi and you. You waited until epi left and then played cat and mouse with zenon while I was literally in there screaming DO NOT VOTE EPI.
And why would I listen to you?
Because I was right? And, honestly, I was talking more to zenon who knows me.
And how would I know you were right?

To be honest I don't think you and Zenon are partnered but you were very performative at EoD like you KNEW Epignosis was gonna flip town.
Well by that point I already figured out the solve. So in my mind, I did know. Have we played together before because I'm always like that. I get very wrapped up in my own conclusions and I always trust my gut. Always.
Cool but you can't expect me to know what's in your mind, you still have to show me, us, that you believe what you believe and you replaced Robyn, whom I suspected of being frozen scum at one point, I had no reason to listen to you and trust you even though I thought you were unaligned with Zenon who I still scum read.
by Guillotine
Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:27 pm
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 4]

Kate wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:26 pm
Guillotine wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:23 pm
Kate wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:21 pm
Guillotine wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:19 pm
Kate wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:18 pm
Guillotine wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:15 pm
Kate wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:23 pm

And guillo pushed it over. You're honestly gonna tell me he's not a wolf. C'mon.
Of course Im not a wolf, if I was I could have just waited for him to go over without my help.

I feel like a moron though, I believe I threw the game here if we lose. We should have eliminated Zenon first but I thought Zenon was playing mind tricks with me to make me think that Epignosis was not his partner so I snapped voted him.
But you didn't snap vote, you waited. You knew zenon thought it was epi and you. You waited until epi left and then played cat and mouse with zenon while I was literally in there screaming DO NOT VOTE EPI.
And why would I listen to you?
Because I was right? And, honestly, I was talking more to zenon who knows me.
And how would I know you were right?

To be honest I don't think you and Zenon are partnered but you were very performative at EoD like you KNEW Epignosis was gonna flip town.
Well by that point I already figured out the solve. So in my mind, I did know. Have we played together before because I'm always like that. I get very wrapped up in my own conclusions and I always trust my gut. Always.
I dont remember if we have
by Guillotine
Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:26 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 4]

I'm thread spewed town, everyone has pushed at one point or another.

I'm also unaligned with everyone as I have pressured everyone hard.

And

Cape90, Seanzie and falcon all townread me, why do I kill those I pocketed instead of those wanting my guts and make my life easier as scum?

I'll wait.
by Guillotine
Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:24 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 4]

Kate wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:22 pm
Guillotine wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:21 pm I waited because I had doubts.
Well you just said you snap voted, so which is it?
I snap voted the moment Zenon called me a coward and dared me to vote him because at that moment I thought it was WIFOM from Zenon.
by Guillotine
Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:23 pm
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 4]

Kate wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:21 pm
Guillotine wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:19 pm
Kate wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:18 pm
Guillotine wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:15 pm
Kate wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:23 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:22 pm Like, idk why I'm choosing not to though. The moment I advised that I'd be in and out Zenon and Guillo decided to hammer, so that was cool. Zenon hammering another town read.
And guillo pushed it over. You're honestly gonna tell me he's not a wolf. C'mon.
Of course Im not a wolf, if I was I could have just waited for him to go over without my help.

I feel like a moron though, I believe I threw the game here if we lose. We should have eliminated Zenon first but I thought Zenon was playing mind tricks with me to make me think that Epignosis was not his partner so I snapped voted him.
But you didn't snap vote, you waited. You knew zenon thought it was epi and you. You waited until epi left and then played cat and mouse with zenon while I was literally in there screaming DO NOT VOTE EPI.
And why would I listen to you?
Because I was right? And, honestly, I was talking more to zenon who knows me.
And how would I know you were right?

To be honest I don't think you and Zenon are partnered but you were very performative at EoD like you KNEW Epignosis was gonna flip town.
by Guillotine
Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:21 pm
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 4]

I waited because I had doubts.
by Guillotine
Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:19 pm
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 4]

Kate wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:18 pm
Guillotine wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:15 pm
Kate wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:23 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:22 pm Like, idk why I'm choosing not to though. The moment I advised that I'd be in and out Zenon and Guillo decided to hammer, so that was cool. Zenon hammering another town read.
And guillo pushed it over. You're honestly gonna tell me he's not a wolf. C'mon.
Of course Im not a wolf, if I was I could have just waited for him to go over without my help.

I feel like a moron though, I believe I threw the game here if we lose. We should have eliminated Zenon first but I thought Zenon was playing mind tricks with me to make me think that Epignosis was not his partner so I snapped voted him.
But you didn't snap vote, you waited. You knew zenon thought it was epi and you. You waited until epi left and then played cat and mouse with zenon while I was literally in there screaming DO NOT VOTE EPI.
And why would I listen to you?
by Guillotine
Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:19 pm
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 4]

DrWilgy wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:34 pm
Kate wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:30 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:28 pm
Kate wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:27 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:25 pm
Kate wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:23 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:22 pm Like, idk why I'm choosing not to though. The moment I advised that I'd be in and out Zenon and Guillo decided to hammer, so that was cool. Zenon hammering another town read.
And guillo pushed it over. You're honestly gonna tell me he's not a wolf. C'mon.
Aye, who's his teammate? Zenon/Guillo only works if before EoD was theater, but that EoD was another nightmare.
Why don't we worry about that after we get one down?
It's F5, no ma'am. Ty though.
Well, sweets. It's you.
The fact that this is the push is somewhat absurd.

I put Guillo at a tie with Tutuu d1 twice.

Guillo has no viable teammates.
Why have you been defending me these last two phases. You were one of my main pushers, what changed?
by Guillotine
Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:15 pm
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 4]

Kate wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:23 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:22 pm Like, idk why I'm choosing not to though. The moment I advised that I'd be in and out Zenon and Guillo decided to hammer, so that was cool. Zenon hammering another town read.
And guillo pushed it over. You're honestly gonna tell me he's not a wolf. C'mon.
Of course Im not a wolf, if I was I could have just waited for him to go over without my help.

I feel like a moron though, I believe I threw the game here if we lose. We should have eliminated Zenon first but I thought Zenon was playing mind tricks with me to make me think that Epignosis was not his partner so I snapped voted him.
by Guillotine
Thu Jul 27, 2023 4:44 pm
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 3]

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine
by Guillotine
Thu Jul 27, 2023 4:37 pm
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 3]

Zenon wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 4:34 pmDo it no guts
Are you calling me a coward?
by Guillotine
Thu Jul 27, 2023 4:25 pm
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 3]

My inner demon says, you are Guillotina, you always hammer anyone that is at hammer range.

But my mind is telling me, if you hammer Epignosis and he is town you would have done the same thing Zenon did to Rem.
by Guillotine
Thu Jul 27, 2023 4:24 pm
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 3]

I'm scared
by Guillotine
Thu Jul 27, 2023 4:17 pm
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

DrWilgy wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:26 pm
Guillotine wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:53 pm
Zenon wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 1:07 am Guillo Wilgy is the team

Kill falcon if I'm wrong

Pyx Robyn Epi are always town

Bet bet
Zenon wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 1:08 am I also think falcon is just town

Actually maybe Guillo >Wilgy > Pyx > Falcon but I'd be surprised if Guillo Wilg doesn't just end the game
If I was scum in Zenon position, I wouldn't be defending my teammate and risk associating them with me.

I would be distancing.

Zenon is clearly distancing from Wilgy here.

Specially because if you check her ISO they've been townreading each other and when they "suspected" each other it was very subtle.

And Wilgy looked like he had TMI on Tutuu, also he parked on me most of Day 2 as a wolf trying to capitalize on me for being the unresolved day 1 wagon. Then he tried to associate me with him while shielding Zenon in the process.

It is Zenon/Wilgy!

Epi was just the guy Zenon set up to look partnered with her along with myself, but since I flipped an 180 on her for killing Rem, she had no choice but to thunderdome.

@Zenon @DrWilgy i caught you motherflowers! Who wants to die first?
Is this serious? Or silly nonsense? Because I REAAAAAAALLY like silly nonsense 1047.23% of the time.

If it was Zenon and I, Zenon doesn't even partake in the EoD shuffle, there'd be 0 reason for it to happen.
hmmm..... fair
by Guillotine
Thu Jul 27, 2023 4:15 pm
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 3]

Epignosis wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:17 pm [VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine
Why are you voting Falcon?
by Guillotine
Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:03 pm
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 3]

I'll be back later unless I'm hammered while I'm away
by Guillotine
Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:02 pm
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 3]

That was a cool test of adrenaline.
by Guillotine
Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:02 pm
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 3]

[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine
by Guillotine
Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:00 pm
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 3]

My turn!

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine
by Guillotine
Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:59 pm
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 3]

That was intense.
by Guillotine
Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:56 pm
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 3]

I rather not be hammered early I have stuff to share but if you guys are in a rush, go ahead. Just read my legacy overnight.
by Guillotine
Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:55 pm
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 3]

oh I guess Im dying first never mind
by Guillotine
Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:53 pm
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Zenon wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 1:07 am Guillo Wilgy is the team

Kill falcon if I'm wrong

Pyx Robyn Epi are always town

Bet bet
Zenon wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 1:08 am I also think falcon is just town

Actually maybe Guillo >Wilgy > Pyx > Falcon but I'd be surprised if Guillo Wilg doesn't just end the game
If I was scum in Zenon position, I wouldn't be defending my teammate and risk associating them with me.

I would be distancing.

Zenon is clearly distancing from Wilgy here.

Specially because if you check her ISO they've been townreading each other and when they "suspected" each other it was very subtle.

And Wilgy looked like he had TMI on Tutuu, also he parked on me most of Day 2 as a wolf trying to capitalize on me for being the unresolved day 1 wagon. Then he tried to associate me with him while shielding Zenon in the process.

It is Zenon/Wilgy!

Epi was just the guy Zenon set up to look partnered with her along with myself, but since I flipped an 180 on her for killing Rem, she had no choice but to thunderdome.

@Zenon @DrWilgy i caught you motherflowers! Who wants to die first?
by Guillotine
Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:36 pm
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 3]

I have a spicy statement
by Guillotine
Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:34 pm
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 3]

DrWilgy wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:27 am
Zenon wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:10 am
DrWilgy wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:09 pm
Zenon wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:33 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:31 pm
pyxxy wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:25 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:22 pm Epi looks to be partnered if Neon flips red
is it really that easy sometimes?


Why the need to untie the wagons? Why not vote Epi if she's been TR Rem at that point? What kind of interactions does she have w/ Epi?




Yeah, sometimes it is that easy
Rand is anti town
:confused:
Rand is strictly not anti town if you enable a 50/50 between a w and t where it was just a t going over previously though...
Rand is anti town. I will never let a vote rand if I can help it. Ever.
I disagree with this view very much.

You threw your own top town over because of this thinking then decided to blame everyone else. I think your flawed view on ties and how to handle a perceived TvT game state here is exactly what's caused this aggravating game state we are in now. I think, in a TvT game state, if one should try to rationalize the arguments made for each (as it's impossible for everyone involved to be wolf), and then make the best vote even if it results in a tie. That will always result in a higher chance for a W flip.

I think I'd be more keen to just try trusting your Kate read if it wasn't for the blaming of others and the AtE you expressed in response into the EoD which really reminds me of your gameplay in Hot Fuzz. There's a big difference between 'I panic'd and impulsively voted, my bad' and the AtE and blame you expressed going into this phase.

Also, I don't want this to come across as a criticism on you, rather my view on EoD and following. I somewhat struggled writing this one out as you are my friend and I do want to think you are town, acking that I think you are town, I can see this view of yours being genuine. I do not wish to bash/criticize your genuine view or emotion related. I don't think I'd make this argument in the first place if I didn't think it was needed for expressing my thoughts on this game state and where I'm at.
Rand is anti town though. But yah, she eliminating Rem does not make sense.

In fact anyone who voices a townread in that behavior with clear no lack of paranoia is a wolf with TMI if Zenon flips town because no one in their right mind would believe that shit was townie.
by Guillotine
Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:24 pm
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 1]

Guillotine wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:22 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:10 am
Zenon wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:07 am
Zenon wrote: Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:32 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:30 pm
Zenon wrote: Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:28 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:26 pm Rem and Robyn are mafia. Go.
I disagree
Good. Tell me more.
I don't really have a read either way on Rem yet but I will eventually.

Robyn seems towny to me though.
I mean... this is like my 7th post

Your read here on Robyn is a throw away, since you claimed they weren't Maf, and also don't have a read on them.




And there's nothing you point to that informs the Robyn read, it's vague & generalized
This is the problem I'm seeing with her reads on people, they are generalized, there is no meet on them except for Tutuu, which I agreed with her as well. Tutuu was wolfy.

But if you check when she talks about Seanzie, Zenon calls him town without saying why, then in the big wall post with anime gifs, she outs a hedging read on Seanzie voicing concern on him but still townreading, then on day 2 she declares that she no longer townreads Seanzie without saying why (I know why, Seanzie was suspecting her and she just OMGUS), She parked on Seanzie until we started talking about eliminating Robyn and Rem, then she appealed to Seanzie about to killing Rem, then Seanzie scum reads he and she actually appeals to him as if she knew Seanzie was town and then we know the rest.

Another example is myself, she had me in her townreads all game except today. She townread me more being uncooperative with Seanzie (even though she said it was my indignation) when he asked me why I was suspecting Epignosis and another player I dont remember now, then that she still townread me but that she was concerned about my derp being fake, then she voted Tutuu to save me from elimination, on day 2 she continued to townread me, then voted me to tie me with Rem (because she liked Rem more than me), then she dropped it and went for Seanzie, then Epignosis all in an attempt to save her townreads that she had no in game justification for, again, we know what happened at the end.

She has played very uncooperatively when prompted to show us her minset about her reads on people, specially Rem, then she just kills Rem.
And today when I asked her why did she flip on Rem she went on auto defense mode and declared that a thunderdome must take place between she and I. How is that townie?
by Guillotine
Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:22 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [END]
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 1]

falcon45ca wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:10 am
Zenon wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:07 am
Zenon wrote: Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:32 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:30 pm
Zenon wrote: Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:28 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:26 pm Rem and Robyn are mafia. Go.
I disagree
Good. Tell me more.
I don't really have a read either way on Rem yet but I will eventually.

Robyn seems towny to me though.
I mean... this is like my 7th post

Your read here on Robyn is a throw away, since you claimed they weren't Maf, and also don't have a read on them.




And there's nothing you point to that informs the Robyn read, it's vague & generalized
This is the problem I'm seeing with her reads on people, they are generalized, there is no meet on them except for Tutuu, which I agreed with her as well. Tutuu was wolfy.

But if you check when she talks about Seanzie, Zenon calls him town without saying why, then in the big wall post with anime gifs, she outs a hedging read on Seanzie voicing concern on him but still townreading, then on day 2 she declares that she no longer townreads Seanzie without saying why (I know why, Seanzie was suspecting her and she just OMGUS), She parked on Seanzie until we started talking about eliminating Robyn and Rem, then she appealed to Seanzie about to killing Rem, then Seanzie scum reads he and she actually appeals to him as if she knew Seanzie was town and then we know the rest.

Another example is myself, she had me in her townreads all game except today. She townread me more being uncooperative with Seanzie (even though she said it was my indignation) when he asked me why I was suspecting Epignosis and another player I dont remember now, then that she still townread me but that she was concerned about my derp being fake, then she voted Tutuu to save me from elimination, on day 2 she continued to townread me, then voted me to tie me with Rem (because she liked Rem more than me), then she dropped it and went for Seanzie, then Epignosis all in an attempt to save her townreads that she had no in game justification for, again, we know what happened at the end.

She has played very uncooperatively when prompted to show us her minset about her reads on people, specially Rem, then she just kills Rem.
by Guillotine
Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:05 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [END]
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Views: 53838

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 1]

Zenon wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 3:15 am
Seanzie wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 3:02 am
Zenon wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 2:53 am
Seanzie wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 2:48 am
Zenon wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 2:46 amVote Epi
I suggest Tutuu first. *checks own voting record* *squints* *asks self wtf*

Anyways what do you think of Falcon?
I just want wagon balance and kinda am panicking that tutuu is just playing weird for whatever reason and is town.

Panic bad.

Anyways I can't read falcon for shit. Seems like falcon. I've seen falcon wolf once and he kinda try harded I dunno if that's normal or not.
Any names I should have on my radar that I dont?
I get anxious I'm clearing Wilgy too easily...

And Robyn is a threat that I likely won't find if she is wolfing

Wanna check into those and lemme no what you see?
Zenon, I take it you have towned against wolf!Robyn?
by Guillotine
Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:02 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [END]
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Views: 53838

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 1]

robyn wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:51 am dad canceled rip, can't say that i'm too surprised
Oh I had missed this, now I feel like a dick for pressuring her for lack of content. :(

I'm sorry @robyn
by Guillotine
Thu Jul 27, 2023 10:53 am
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Topic: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [END]
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 1]

robyn wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 6:11 am zenon often townreads me prematurely, that's nai but it's worrying from any other player
NAI, meaning she does it as town and scum, ok.

I need to check later who else was townreading her prematurely.
by Guillotine
Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:56 am
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Topic: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [END]
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 3]

This is a generalized statement about wolf tactics as i dont know Kate's meta.
by Guillotine
Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:55 am
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 3]

I thought i was gonna have more time to play today but i didnt for personal reasons and im exhausted, so i will continue tomorrow.

At first glance, i dont think Kate is partnered with Zenon for the way she is defending her, i have to believe that a wolf would not out to defend the other and would rather bus to go deep.
by Guillotine
Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:51 am
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Topic: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [END]
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 3]

Kate wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:42 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:39 pm
Kate wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:37 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:34 pm
Kate wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:33 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:31 pm Mafia fucked up by killing Seanzie.

Reason why is I was going to fuck Seanzie up for them.
If youre town, and I think you might be, we need to gather and rally. Lynching zenon is a big mistake. How many mislynches do we have left?
Who'd you replace? I'm still four pages behind.
Robyn.

Well then I hope people will take a leap of faith with me and not vote zenon. She is smack dab in her civ meta.
Tell me what you know of Zenon's "civ meta."
Oh God. You know I play on feels.

Shes genuine. She's uber frustrated and not in a whiny, I'm caught fake way. She's determined and a bit scattered. When she's bad, she has her thoughts more collected and while she still post A LOT there more of a method to her madness that is not present here.
Have you caught up?
by Guillotine
Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:26 pm
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Topic: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [END]
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Views: 53838

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 3]

I meant come geezus christ
by Guillotine
Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:26 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [END]
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 3]

And my case has not ended, there is more to cum
by Guillotine
Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:23 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [END]
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 3]

I hope you guys at least read my case for Zenon because her ISO is a pain in the ass to read. Don't have me work for nothing.
by Guillotine
Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:22 pm
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Topic: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [END]
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 1]

DrWilgy wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:07 pm
Guillotine wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:02 pm
Zenon wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:42 am
Epignosis wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 11:37 pm
tutuu wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 11:29 pm eod is still some time away and there's time for ppl to come and post more, and hopefully post normally

but im not opposed to chopping any one of the people who hasnt given too much normal and readable opinions. as in, understandable. or any opinions at all

i dont think town wins if there's too many of players like that alive at mid game
I'd prefer Zenon over Seanzie in this moment. Zenon is bragging about providing content but the vast majority of it is superfluous.

Seanzie basically looked at the thread and said "fuck this."

I can empathize a little with the latter. I have no tolerance for the former.
Lmfao I'm so sick of people acting like I do nothing because I use mafia as a way to make friends and chat in between actually playing the game.

I could quote every post I've made with actual game content in it but I'm lazy your treating me exactly as wolfs often try to in order to diminish my input and volume because discrediting high posters is an important tactic when wolfing.

Of course nobody will listen when I'm dead
While building my case i found this.

The way Zenon responded to Epignosis was too closely emotional to be an interaction with another wolf.
To be fair, I don't think the emotion between Zenon and a potential teammate should be discrediting of W/W.

Spoiler below from when Zenon and I were W/W:
Spoiler: show
Zenon wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:57 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:14 pm
Neon wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:10 pm I've explained this 48 times but I'll do it again.

If I don't TR you than I am considering you a potential threat to town so saying "give me a reason to TR you" is pretty in character no?

You never did though.
And again my argument of 'I play like x' is not an excuse for what I may perceive as scummy behavior.

By your own admission here you are stating the progression was
'Wilgy said he sees something scummy in my play'
'I call him a threat to town'
'How could he possibly see me calling him a threat to town after him seeing something scummy OMGUS'
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That is so unbelievably not what I've said at all. But I'm used to you lying about my slot now and it's frustrating as fuck.
Well in my experience no wolves distance from each other emotionally because there is no emotion as they know they are faking it but I guess Zenon can fake it.
by Guillotine
Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:19 pm
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Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 1]

Why is Zenon Scum: Betraying Rem

The following are all the quotes were Zenon brazenly defended Rem and called her town.
You can see that even in the last minutes of EoD2 she was defending Rem and trying to prevent her elimination.

You don't have to read all the quotes, it is a lot, but if you skim you will be able to see that she was always calling Rem town and treating her like town. Even in one post Zenon said that that she knew Rem was town.


Spoiler: show
Zenon wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 1:03 am
Rem wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 1:02 am
Zenon wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:56 am I suppose I should also play the game for real

Robyn
Rem
Wilgy

Lock town
Oh yeah the game

Ha ha ha hahaha

Town
Zenon
wilgy bulgy
Cape

Sus
Epi
Tutturuuu

Rest idk
Wanna mason?
Zenon wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 2:57 am
Rem wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 2:55 am
Guillotine wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 2:53 am Town

Cape90
Epi
Seanzie
Zenon

PoE

Tutuu
Wilgy
Falcon
Pyxx or whstever

Good night
It happens so often to me that people forget to put me on their read lists tat I shouldn't be surprised, but it's always funny to see
Hold on let me make a read list

Rem Tier
Rem

Town Lock
Rem
Rem
Rem

Town
Rem
Rem

Scum
Everyone else including me

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Zenon wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:09 am
tutuu wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:07 am
Seanzie wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:03 am
tutuu wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:00 am
Seanzie wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 3:59 am Would you mind attempting the Rem Challenge?
yes, sorry. i want to win, but not at the cost of my sanity
You earlier asked me to run multiple D1 ISOs to get caught up. I'm asking for one. I don't want anyone to sacrifice their mental health, but I don't think my ask does that.
i asked you to iso people who have had like 40-50 game relevant posts. i warned you to ignore zenon and rem's posts

ur asking me to specifically look thru shitposting to confirm ur count of 10 game relevant points. this is unimportant sean. i believe u that u counted 10. there is no value in me putting in the effort to confirm there's 10 or if there's 2 more or less
There's more than 10. Also Rem is town.
Zenon wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:26 am Let's talk about Rem both as I know her and like as I've experienced her.

I've played with Rem a number of times. The ones that always stick out to me are Mafia League, our first game together, The game that shan't be named and another one that I won't elaborate on.

I'm not fact checking myself but in all these games Rem was town.

In our first game together Rem was playing traditional mafia. Me and her got into it pretty badly. We did not agree on anything big sadness and we got into some pretty heated discussions. I think eventually we found each other but I've mostly forgotten what happened.

However in mafia league the game I remember the most was our 2nd game together where the first thing I did was asked Rem to mason with me before I even had a read there because I wanted to be friends xD but also I quickly realized she was town because she simply did not care about looking town and she did nor try to play the way town wanted her to play and she was getting hard pushed for it and I yelled at people that they were being dumb so did Schweppes he died eventually they wagoned Rem even as I told them she was obv town she self hammered flipped town. I lost my mason. Like if dis make you cry every time

In the game that shan't be named a similar trend as she didn't care to appear towny and was gimmicking I found her town some bullshit happened blah blah.

Anyways a trend for town Rem. She doesn't care about looking towny. She gets scum read for it unless you analyze her game play deeper. She doesn't like towning and expresses that. She sometimes plays as if she doesn't care about the game probably because she'd rather be wolf BUT even when she's doing that she will play the game she will put out reads. Sometimes you have to look for them. In the game that shan't be named she was gimmick posting but I was able to understand that she was calling certain content wolfy or towny even as others exclaimed she was doing nothing. She was in fact playing the game.

So. How did I arrive at a town read here.

Well one the sincerity of her posting yesterday night when she said that she randed town wasn't excited saw me and got more excited to play. Her entrance and approach to the early game confirms to me that this was real especially how he first post when she realized I was in this game read.

2. She explained that she was drunk on happiness and when I talked to her about that she once again expressed that this game seemed like it was going to be fun which felt sincere and pure to me.

3. She's vibing in thread with me but she is still providing game related content while doing that. This vibes with my understanding of how Rem plays as town as someone who doesn't like towning.

Rem is super towny if she was wolf I think she'd still vibe with me because we are friends but I think she'd be far more invested in the game because she loves wolfing and as far as I'm aware is proud of her wolf game. This is town "I don't give a fuck because I randed town" Rem who's gonna get wrongly pushed because people don't look deep enough at how she's playing.
Zenon wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:31 am
Zenon wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:26 am Let's talk about Rem both as I know her and like as I've experienced her.

I've played with Rem a number of times. The ones that always stick out to me are Mafia League, our first game together, The game that shan't be named and another one that I won't elaborate on.

I'm not fact checking myself but in all these games Rem was town.

In our first game together Rem was playing traditional mafia. Me and her got into it pretty badly. We did not agree on anything big sadness and we got into some pretty heated discussions. I think eventually we found each other but I've mostly forgotten what happened.

However in mafia league the game I remember the most was our 2nd game together where the first thing I did was asked Rem to mason with me before I even had a read there because I wanted to be friends xD but also I quickly realized she was town because she simply did not care about looking town and she did nor try to play the way town wanted her to play and she was getting hard pushed for it and I yelled at people that they were being dumb so did Schweppes he died eventually they wagoned Rem even as I told them she was obv town she self hammered flipped town. I lost my mason. Like if dis make you cry every time

In the game that shan't be named a similar trend as she didn't care to appear towny and was gimmicking I found her town some bullshit happened blah blah.

Anyways a trend for town Rem. She doesn't care about looking towny. She gets scum read for it unless you analyze her game play deeper. She doesn't like towning and expresses that. She sometimes plays as if she doesn't care about the game probably because she'd rather be wolf BUT even when she's doing that she will play the game she will put out reads. Sometimes you have to look for them. In the game that shan't be named she was gimmick posting but I was able to understand that she was calling certain content wolfy or towny even as others exclaimed she was doing nothing. She was in fact playing the game.

So. How did I arrive at a town read here.

Well one the sincerity of her posting yesterday night when she said that she randed town wasn't excited saw me and got more excited to play. Her entrance and approach to the early game confirms to me that this was real especially how he first post when she realized I was in this game read.

2. She explained that she was drunk on happiness and when I talked to her about that she once again expressed that this game seemed like it was going to be fun which felt sincere and pure to me.

3. She's vibing in thread with me but she is still providing game related content while doing that. This vibes with my understanding of how Rem plays as town as someone who doesn't like towning.

Rem is super towny if she was wolf I think she'd still vibe with me because we are friends but I think she'd be far more invested in the game because she loves wolfing and as far as I'm aware is proud of her wolf game. This is town "I don't give a fuck because I randed town" Rem who's gonna get wrongly pushed because people don't look deep enough at how she's playing.
Also she's cute and I <3 her and she's my favorite person to play with. And talking to her in this thread has made me extremely happy and this is the most I've enjoyed a mafia game in a while. She's my fwen.

Does that make her town? Yes :p
Zenon wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:30 am I like to try to do these like once per phase but I kinda forget sometimes.

But I remembered here and now so have some patent pending unfiltered thoughts from ☆ Zenon ☆ (for now because I change my name like once a year)

Look at all these beautiful names so many pretty players.

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I love you all so much and you are all wonderful keep being awesome keep playing hard we got this uwu let's go town.

Menhara Chan will serve as the vibe teller

Cape90 - Image

Cape has been a lightning rod for conflict and I think that's towny. I think the back and forth on cape being wolfy or towny is probably town indicative especially because like I find the reason for the initial push towards cape to be pretty mediocre. It had something to do with bowling I think like wut? Okay admittedly I was too enamored with talking about cute anime girls with Rem to pay that much attention but like meh.

Outside that Cape is solving/ active in thread questioning things and looking deeper. Towny town.

DrWilgy - Image

Oh friendly neighborhood doctor. Your gimmick posting could be a mask to hide your wolfy persona no? I mean I town read it at first but like the more I think about it the more I'm like meh Wilgy is okay but there's not much there. I mean like I can read your reads through your gimmick but like it's just a lot of numbers that I feel like don't mean a lot when I think about what you are actually saying. Your play is just like okay.

Epignosis - Image

You big scary powerwolf trying to find a push to power through that will stick. Your about face on robyn early just didn't read genuine. Your push onto Cape felt lazy and opportunistic the more I think about it. Your push on me is flawed based on untrue statements and now that others have realized I am town I expect you to upon your return pivot to another town to try to plow over them.

falcon45ca - Image

At first I was like oh look falcon is town right cause like lots effort falcon is probs town except like is it? Because like he vote parked on a town and left lol

Guillotine- Image

At first I was like oh Guillo is try harding pushing for content trying to read things this is good yes. But the derp felt fake and I'm becoming increasingly concerned. I'm still gonna town read him for now because the solving feels genuine but anxiously.

pyxxy - Image

Oh Pyxxy wyxxy. Why you so not here. Come play with me uwu. Scummy scummy pyxxy wyxxy. I just wanna play. UwU.

Rem - Image

This is actual footage of me every single time I get a notification that there's a new reply in this thread and it's not Rem.

Rem is town. She is cute. Too cute to be evil. But like for reals I know people don't like making reads like this but it's important to understand how purity and tone matter. Her posts around me at the very beginning of this game were real they were not fake they were honest and open. In my opinion. If that's true than she was excited to play with me even after randing town which she doesn't like playing. I believe this. Also she's been a positive and enjoyable presence and makes me happy. Talking about non game related things doesn't make someone wolfy and it also doesn't void the content that exists which you can read into and is good.

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Rem is also cooler than everyone so she gets 2 menhara vibe gifs

robyn - Image I was super duper excited to play with robyn again for the first time in months cause Robyn is one of my favorite friends in mafia. The lack of robyn in my game is sad. I do think that she tried to quickly pull the thread out of RVS and that was towny. I do think that how she was approaching Tutuus read on her felt genuinely inquisitive and towny especially questioning the flips on reads. But I'm scared about being wrong on Robyn.

Seanzie - Image

I was like oh look at Seanzie he doesn't care he's town he'll come back and solve than he came backed and solved and I was like oh look at Seanzie he's solving the game that's town but like I'm getting wary about the way he's solving it feels off. It feels wrong. I still lean town but I'm getting nervous. Bleh.

tutuu - Image

The drastic change in style feels wolfy. The constant fear of committing to a read and believing it feels like keeping all options open. The unwillingness to answer questions while trying to change the culture feels weird. The play feels like a wolf who forgot how to wolf. But than I real time with Tutuu and I feel like... fuck Tutuu feels genuine and I don't want to miskill tutuu but aaaaaa I dunno.

Zenon - Image

There's a really easy way to read me

It's all about emotion. I play emotionally. I'm not gonna tell you what it is but there is a gigantic difference between my emotion as town vs as scum.


Alright I hate this because I normally make snap reads and commit to them and use that as a jumping off point but I'm confident on exactly two reads which is making me question just about every other player in the game which is making me excessively anxious and making me doubt myself which is dangerous for me.

The tier list looks like this

I would travel to an abandoned island and trust them with my life

Rem
Zenon
Cape

I would watch my backpack while they are around but like not too closely

Robyn
Sean
Guillo
Wilgy

I would run away from them if we crash landed together on an island

Everyone else

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God I hate myself

Let's get back to winning everyone

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Zenon wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:14 am
tutuu wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:02 am reads:

zenon

rest

yeah thats right bitch. ion give a fuck. zenon is the only one i trust

i could have been pocketed by epi and/or wilgy. i wouldnt bet the game on my townreads on them, not feeling confident. i thought pyxxy as wolf would be posting more but this might be a dumb read. i have no clue what to think of sean it felt to me like he snorts a line before every post he makes

so my legacy if im the d1 chop is to sheep zenon tomorrow. if she dies n1 - tough luck. but its your guys's problem, not mine :joy:

good luck you all, and i do appreciate that this has been a generally more active game compared to most games we have. even if we mischop some villagers i dont feel like we're doomed, i feel like the remaining townies might be able to solve it, plenty of content itt. godspeed
Alright so Tutuu is lock town for this post and I'm moving on lol.

This is normal town Tutuu the town Tutuu I love to play with. This is what I want. Fuck.

Tier of her own

Rem


Town lock

Zenon
Cape
Tutuu


Sheep this I'm rarely wrong on more than one lock town read.
Zenon wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:53 pm Rem help me I dunno what to do
Zenon wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:39 pm
Seanzie wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:53 am
Rem wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:52 am
Seanzie wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:34 am
Rem wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:52 am
Seanzie wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:57 am
Rem wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 1:44 am

In which way?

-oh they are more engaged and stuff

But what does it mean?

-it means he probably was busy yesterday and the day before because normal people are busy until saturday night

So not alignment indicative?

-townie would be accurate

Yeah that sounds good but we already tr seanzie yesterday

-yes but that was a hunch, this is actual gameplay analysis

Oh ok, is that what evolving reads are?

-yeah exactly
Prior to this post, how was I more engaged D2 than D1?

If you chalk up my D1 to me being busy IRL, why would that be townie?

What gameplay are you analyzing for this? Activitiy patterns? How about my reads and pushes?
Dude i'm just talking to myself
Anything you post in the thread is fair game for others to scrutinize.

Could you please answer my questions?
Nope
Elim this please.
Why the response is towny as fuck lol
Zenon wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:55 pm
Seanzie wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:41 pm
Zenon wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:39 pm
Seanzie wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:20 pm [VOTE: Epi] aubergine

Rem still needs way more attention as well IMO. Does anyone other than Zenon townread them?
You should listen to me though... really
Can you explain your Rem townread? I will listen to what you say and take it into account.
It's really simple right.

Rem. Is being honest and pure. She doesn't give a fuck about appearing towny because she doesn't give a fuck about dying because she doesn't value her life because she is town.

Towns don't value their lives scum do. Town don't care about appearing towny to minimize their chance of being voted scum do but this is especially true of Rem because she hates playing town so she REALLY doesn't give a fuck about being towny.

With that said she will still try to help town shell throw out a read she'll tell you what she sees and she's damn good at it to but most of the game will ignore it because she's not gonna try to put together a 30 page thesis on her reads so she'll get ignored by all of you except like me probably I'd we are honest.

If you do pay attention you'll ask her to do something which she won't want to do because she's town and she's trying to be helpful but like she's not gonna go dive isos to prove a point like I'm not either fuck that so than you'll paint her as being uncooperative cause she's scum but really what you are painting as scummy motivation is also just fucking towny.

Rem was excited early on because me and her were fucking around she rolled town but hanging out in thread with someone bullshitting made her happy and she stated such. As the thread has turned more serious and people have butchered us for having fun in a mafia game and I've become more serious myself her activity has dropped off and she's been less interested this also follows my logic and belief that her genuine feelings were that she rolled town that sucks but she saw me and was happy and now that's faded.

Now to be honest I want to just hang out with Rem in thread and talk about Oppenheimer and Gacha and anime and not get crucified for it cause that was also fun for me and I can play the game around that. And we can't talk on discord during the game though I hope my inbox gets flooded after the game lol.I'm bored and my investment level has dropped lol.

But Rem is town and killing her wastes a day.
Zenon wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:20 pm
Guillotine wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:17 pm @Zenon

Im hating that you decided to vote me when i decided to support pressure on Rem, when just a few hours ago you were ok with sheeping me on Epignosis.

You called us having a skill issue in reading Rem not that we were scummy for it, you said that you think im town but because Rem is getting pressure and she is the friend you love to play with then you are willing to vote out a townread over her, whom you townread for NAI reasons.

And the worst part is that i actually townread it because i doubt you are not self conscious to know how bad it looks Neon, i also dont think you are paired because what wolf team makes a defense like yours so obvious and risk getting executed back to back.
Well it's not NAI and I have literally correctly read Rem in every single game I've played with her even as town had in most of them voted her out and killed her despite this

To insinuate that I'm just town reading sometime and playing in any way around a friendship is insulting but I digress

Anyways yes I voted you to tie the wagons
Zenon wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:30 pm
Guillotine wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:27 pm
Zenon wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:20 pm
Guillotine wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:17 pm @Zenon

Im hating that you decided to vote me when i decided to support pressure on Rem, when just a few hours ago you were ok with sheeping me on Epignosis.

You called us having a skill issue in reading Rem not that we were scummy for it, you said that you think im town but because Rem is getting pressure and she is the friend you love to play with then you are willing to vote out a townread over her, whom you townread for NAI reasons.

And the worst part is that i actually townread it because i doubt you are not self conscious to know how bad it looks Neon, i also dont think you are paired because what wolf team makes a defense like yours so obvious and risk getting executed back to back.
Well it's not NAI and I have literally correctly read Rem in every single game I've played with her even as town had in most of them voted her out and killed her despite this

To insinuate that I'm just town reading sometime and playing in any way around a friendship is insulting but I digress

Anyways yes I voted you to tie the wagons
It is exactly how you are playing this so i dont care if the truth is offensive to you.

It is NAI, things like “she was enjoying her time when we were not serious.”
Everyone literally enjoys the RvS stage.

And then “she lost interest when things got serious like i did.”
Both a townie and a wolf can display such behavior, it is NAI.

So show me please the reads from her that you claim are village indicative, i actually wanna see that you believe this now.
No it's not true. It's just another in a long list of mafia players running the same tired tropes about my game play that I've proven wrong time and time again trying to say I'm reading in to nothing when my read accuracy is greater than fucking rand

Rem is fucking town
You are trying to kill a town
You think I'm reading into nothing but I assure you I am not
Zenon wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:42 pm
Guillotine wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:35 pm Im done here, im done trying to solve this and prove my worth with actual reads and actual solve only to get tied and remain a top wagon just to protect someone because they enjoy playing with them.

Get real, tag me when you are ready to play mafia.

Good night
I am playing the game. Don't really care if you don't like how I play my read is correct so
Zenon wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:51 pm I'm not gonna feel bad for making a read I believe in and trust that I am 90% sure will be right

And for voting to protect my top town

And I'm not gonna apologize because you don't like it

And I'm really not gonna stand here and let my name be drug through the mud because people are incapable of understanding that I can make a read on someone I like and vote to protect them without the reason being that I like them
Zenon wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:06 am
Guillotine wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:00 am
Zenon wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:20 pm
Guillotine wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:17 pm @Zenon

Im hating that you decided to vote me when i decided to support pressure on Rem, when just a few hours ago you were ok with sheeping me on Epignosis.

You called us having a skill issue in reading Rem not that we were scummy for it, you said that you think im town but because Rem is getting pressure and she is the friend you love to play with then you are willing to vote out a townread over her, whom you townread for NAI reasons.

And the worst part is that i actually townread it because i doubt you are not self conscious to know how bad it looks Neon, i also dont think you are paired because what wolf team makes a defense like yours so obvious and risk getting executed back to back.
Well it's not NAI and I have literally correctly read Rem in every single game I've played with her even as town had in most of them voted her out and killed her despite this

To insinuate that I'm just town reading sometime and playing in any way around a friendship is insulting but I digress

Anyways yes I voted you to tie the wagons
Ok. I apologize for accusing you of defending Rem based on friendship.

I still disagree the townread but I can see that you believe in it.

That said, can you give us links to town games where you correctly townread her please?

Just to have peace of mind you are not faking this (even though I don't believe you are).
Yes

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/39434

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/40542

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/39680
Zenon wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:19 am
Rem wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:12 am
Zenon wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:10 am I'll never forget you Rem you'll always be my favorite best friend don't tell the others
I'll keep it a secret m'lady

-Rem are you worried Zenon might be pocketing?

Nope i don't mind

-k just checking

:3
I'd never pocket you.

Okay I would that's a lie

But I'm not pocketing you right now.

I'm just an overly clingy friend who you'll get sick of eventually :p
Zenon wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:27 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:07 pm
Guillotine wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:02 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:01 pm
Guillotine wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:00 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:58 pm
Guillotine wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:21 pm

Weird, if you were willing to consider Cape's legacy on me and Zenon, why did you park your vote one me for more than 24 hours?
Weird, I can drop a randy vote at start of phase prior to reading Cape's legacy on you and Zenon and leave it there for 24 hours because I wasn't around?
No, not really, you can just not drop a vote at all if you are not gonna be around for 24 hours.
Nah
Yah

What is your read on Rem, Pyxxy and Robyn?
Rem is too fluffy, I'd like to trust Zenon but feel that I'm unable to do so fully. Would yeet.

Pyxxy is just wolfy this game.

Robyn is also wolfy this game. They were the first to try to draw attention to the weirdness of the nk this cyle, like almost immediately, and have been almost completely mia at the same time.
Fluff isn't AI and the fact that the only actual reason to push Rem is that she's fluff posted with me is pretty weh weh and should be ringing alarm bells.

There is zero wolfy play to push Rem on. People are pushing her for not playing the game the way they want her to not for playing the game wolfy.

Wanna kill a fluff poster kill me. This is so fucking dumb.
Zenon wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:56 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:54 pm
Zenon wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:48 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:39 pm
Zenon wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:38 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:19 pm
Zenon wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:16 pm

I'm not reevaluating I'm right
I don't believe you believe this.
You know for a fucking fact I believe this
You don't have confidence in your scumreads, you've never caught me as wolf, and yet you confidently think I'm scum now?
That's not what I was saying I wouldn't reeval lom
I don't believe you believe you're right. That's what I was saying.
I do believe I'm right

Robyn is town
Rem is town

I believe that and I will not reeval
Zenon wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:54 pm Get the flying fuck off Rem
Zenon wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:55 pm @Rem please don't die I need you here... for my sanity

Everyone is being so depresso
Zenon wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:56 pm Plsss I know you're town
Zenon wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:58 pm Like rem's only post this EoD hasn't been to self pres or fight her wagon its been to defends me against my wagon

That's not wolfy
Now the following posts are all of the interactions with Epignosis calling him scum or that she suspected Epignosis.
Notice that the inverse was happening in the last minutes of EoD, where she was calling Epignosis scum.


Spoiler: show
Zenon wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:30 am Epignosis

You big scary powerwolf trying to find a push to power through that will stick. Your about face on robyn early just didn't read genuine. Your push onto Cape felt lazy and opportunistic the more I think about it. Your push on me is flawed based on untrue statements and now that others have realized I am town I expect you to upon your return pivot to another town to try to plow over them.
Zenon wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 5:05 pm
Guillotine wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 3:11 pm
Zenon wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:35 am
Seanzie wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 5:44 am
Zenon wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 5:41 am
Seanzie wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 5:39 am
Zenon wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 5:35 am

Tu madre
If I push the me v Tutuu thunderdome, who will you support atm?
You. But that gap is increasingly smaller.
Good. Vote Tutuu.
Naw I like my vote
Your vote is on me. Why do you like it?
It was on epi at the time
Zenon wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:39 pm
Epignosis wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:24 pm
Seanzie wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:20 pm [VOTE: Epi] aubergine

Rem still needs way more attention as well IMO. Does anyone other than Zenon townread them?
Still not reading Zenon's posts.
The last person who refuses to read my posts was a wolf
Zenon wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:40 pm
Seanzie wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:37 pm
Zenon wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:35 pm
Epignosis wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:53 pm
Guillotine wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:58 pm Like for example im paranoid about Zenon who is voting with me after i voiced a possible association with Epi with her. Questions come into mind such as:

Why is she sheeping me on Epi now?
Is this scum!Zenon trying to distance from Epi?
Or, is this town!Zenon who realized she is being set up by scum!Epi and voted there to kill that association.
Zenon is your teammate who saved you Day 1.

There's your answer.
Lmao
Epi/Guillo is t/t. Discuss.
Press X
Zenon wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:34 pm
Seanzie wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:12 pm @Zenon @Guillotine care for a Wilgy wagon?
Wilgy and Epi are both fine by me
Zenon wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:53 pm Epi scum bet bet
Zenon wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:53 pm
Epignosis wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:50 pm
Rem wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:48 pm this zenon wagon is cringe
[VOTE: Rem] aubergine
Lol
Zenon wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:54 pmVote Epi
Zenon wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:00 pm
Epignosis wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:59 pm [VOTE: Zenon] aubergine

Now you can have your precious non-depressing personal chat with your friend Rem.

See ya.
Rude as fuck but towny

And yet, she ended up voting Rem. No progression, no reason, just a straight up last second snipe to kill Rem.
by Guillotine
Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:28 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [END]
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Views: 53838

Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 2]

Zenon wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:37 pm
Guillotine wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 4:06 am
Zenon wrote: Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:24 pm I'm just here to talk to Rem and hate myself at this point
Why do you hate yourself?
Because my play at EoD was shit I mean ultimately I think you are also town but I don't know what to do in that situation because I also thought Tutuu was town but I will always try to prevent Rands
At least this shows consistency in her philosophy to prevent rands

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