The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 7:05 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:56 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:44 pm This game ended d1 honestly. If y'all really consider how far behind town was when Justin got mod killed, KZA got vigged and then two town flipped. I was playing deepwolf and paying no attention to my antispew and got vigged and it barely even helped the odds. Axehole's decision may have been questionable but it was much like Felicis taking a hero shot. If I flip town are you all on Felicis's case like this? On day 2 the only person Axe has a green on is himself and nobody was listening to each other so he did what he could to create the highest percentage chop in a very low percentage situation. It wasn't like he faked a red from a game winning situation and cost town the game imo. D2 was already, as proven, the penultimate day of the game. I honestly doubt you would have got a mafia flip in any other way anyway. In many ways him doing that may have been town's only path to victory. If only he faked the red on Seanzie.

How can you compare a fake red check to a night vig taken on a hunch? Night vigs are supposed to do that, you are not supposed to fake a redcheck and not rescind it, period. We will never know what would have happen if Axe didnt do what he did, but i think you overestimated your faction's situation there. LoMo and Seanzie were high suspects and i believe we would have yeeted one of them if it wasn't for Axe red check that took the game hostage, we were forced to believe Axe had a redcheck and forced to form reads out of that.

Mafia had an easy win due to Axe's actions, he was the best wolf partner from another faction that you could have hoped for and you would be mad if you had randed town in this game, i know that for sure.

"you are not supposed to fake a redcheck and not rescind it, period"

according to whomst?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:44 pm This game ended d1 honestly. If y'all really consider how far behind town was when Justin got mod killed, KZA got vigged and then two town flipped. I was playing deepwolf and paying no attention to my antispew and got vigged and it barely even helped the odds. Axehole's decision may have been questionable but it was much like Felicis taking a hero shot. If I flip town are you all on Felicis's case like this? On day 2 the only person Axe has a green on is himself and nobody was listening to each other so he did what he could to create the highest percentage chop in a very low percentage situation. It wasn't like he faked a red from a game winning situation and cost town the game imo. D2 was already, as proven, the penultimate day of the game. I honestly doubt you would have got a mafia flip in any other way anyway. In many ways him doing that may have been town's only path to victory. If only he faked the red on Seanzie.

Felicis wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:05 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 8:51 pm idk what you all are on about the soup kill, it was warned and so it happened. But I would imagine if there hypothetically was a new player who didn't know what a soup kill was, there probably should be some sort of clarification of what that soup-kill was and/or its extent. Other than that, I had no problems with the mechanic.

One of my personal issues with the game is that I feel the game/town wouldn't let me kill !mafia LoMo for his actions during the event, and I feel like some parts of the game inhibited my scum-hunting and focus.

And because of that, I didn't really learn anything nor feel like I will improve in any way from the game other than to more actively consider such distractions and (if its just unnecessary like toxicity) consider just leaving the game or contacting the MoD's myself (if applicable) if I encounter it in the future. If I don't feel like I could learn or improve from a game, then I hardly can feel fun if I'm trying to give it all at times. Especially since this was my first town game after three back-to-back wolf rands. This? it was a massive disappointment to me for what I (admittedly, half-my-problem) put my hopes really high up for.

I'm not going to start pointing fingers at anyone though.

Hello, I am the new player who had never heard of a soup kill before. But it was explained in the game thread early D1, but I misunderstood or misread it (common for me). I knew it meant scum could kill someone based purely on role or character, but I didn't realize it was more than one character or that the kills would not be capped. I thought I understood, but I didn't. Not having the mechanics of the soup kill explained was def a detriment to me and my play, and I would *not* have claimed if I properly understood how the soup kill worked. I know now that maybe it should have been obvious to me because it is called "soup" kill, so multiple ingredients to make a soup = multiple kills in the soup, but it didn't dawn on me til much too late. I'm sorry for the shite play, I think I might just stay away from bigger games for a bit since I have a lot to learn and don't want to mess up the funs for anyone else on my team who's working hard to pull a win for their faction.

I will say though, now that I better understand the way the soup kill works, I don't think me pointing out Guillo's fake kill claim would have killed me faster, bc everyone knew there was a vig shot meaning my role existing in the game was pretty much outed when Mac turned up dead n red. Especially since the soup kill didn't require specifics for it to be counted, just character or power role, I think that vig spot was done for regardless and it was just a matter of waiting for scum to attempt a kill with a longer list. It did however give scum more information in that they now had more hunting to do to discover Guillo's role, meaning they'd have the potential for another kill in the soup.

Thanks for mostly bearing with my noobliness, folks.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:07 am @Guillotine You're basically saying that I should be punished for not violating the rules because I didn't play into the narrow box that you feel town should stick to. I mean, that's some level of entitlement. But who am I to judge, I do think your world should revolve around you somewhat.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:03 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:02 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:57 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:55 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:53 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:51 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:48 am

I'm supposed to feel remorse for having bad reads and losing a game?

No, you are supposed to feel remorse for faking a redcheck and not rescinding it. You sre supposed to feel remorse for making the game about you instead of playing like you are part of the team, you are supposed to apologize for it and yet you act like we should just accept that behavior, which you hinted in the D C that you have no intention of changing.

I'm sorry that you come from that generation of people who can't handle someone who does something differently than them.

Whatever man.

I mean, if you don't want a ridiculous quote to be used against you, don't make it in the first place.

Against me? Ha!

I don't take it back, cause it was addressed to the kind of people described in it and no one else.

It's funny because it seems to apply to you on both ends of the statement.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:57 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:55 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:53 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:51 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:48 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:47 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:58 pm

I lead town to you so that you could lead them from beyond the grave.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:31 am I agree with vulgard, we lost because my reads were bad, no one else did anything of note.

See these comments? This shows this guy deliberately played against our wincon and he has shown no remorse whatsoever for his actions. He displayed a similar attitude in the DVC.

He needs to be punished for it. I'm taking measures for the games im hosting here and I‘d advice everyone to do the same.

I'm supposed to feel remorse for having bad reads and losing a game?

No, you are supposed to feel remorse for faking a redcheck and not rescinding it. You sre supposed to feel remorse for making the game about you instead of playing like you are part of the team, you are supposed to apologize for it and yet you act like we should just accept that behavior, which you hinted in the D C that you have no intention of changing.

I'm sorry that you come from that generation of people who can't handle someone who does something differently than them.

Whatever man.

I mean, if you don't want a ridiculous quote to be used against you, don't make it in the first place.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:53 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:51 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:48 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:47 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:58 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:48 pm Sorry I shouldve led the town

I lead town to you so that you could lead them from beyond the grave.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:31 am I agree with vulgard, we lost because my reads were bad, no one else did anything of note.

See these comments? This shows this guy deliberately played against our wincon and he has shown no remorse whatsoever for his actions. He displayed a similar attitude in the DVC.

He needs to be punished for it. I'm taking measures for the games im hosting here and I‘d advice everyone to do the same.

I'm supposed to feel remorse for having bad reads and losing a game?

No, you are supposed to feel remorse for faking a redcheck and not rescinding it. You sre supposed to feel remorse for making the game about you instead of playing like you are part of the team, you are supposed to apologize for it and yet you act like we should just accept that behavior, which you hinted in the D C that you have no intention of changing.

I'm sorry that you come from that generation of people who can't handle someone who does something differently than them.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:48 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:47 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:58 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:48 pm Sorry I shouldve led the town

I lead town to you so that you could lead them from beyond the grave.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:31 am I agree with vulgard, we lost because my reads were bad, no one else did anything of note.

See these comments? This shows this guy deliberately played against our wincon and he has shown no remorse whatsoever for his actions. He displayed a similar attitude in the DVC.

He needs to be punished for it. I'm taking measures for the games im hosting here and I‘d advice everyone to do the same.

I'm supposed to feel remorse for having bad reads and losing a game?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:58 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:48 pm Sorry I shouldve led the town

I lead town to you so that you could lead them from beyond the grave.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:31 am I agree with vulgard, we lost because my reads were bad, no one else did anything of note.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 9:40 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 9:38 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 9:36 pm It's not that nobody stepped up to be a leader

its more rather nobody was able to become a leader because someone else disagreed

like I'm fairly sure I had 2 completely unreasonable (fmpov) scum-reads on me on D2

Guilty as charged. Sorry Martin. For my defense, I thought there was two wolves in Seanzie/LoMo/Martin so it was hard for me to get you off my PoE, until Axe came along.

Nah I'm not mad at you at all Gulio. I mean, maybe you can learn from this, but from what I know of you (aka being crazy lol), you scum-reading me was not surprising.

In fact I gave a really sudden town-read on you early D1. If anything I thought you were incredibly fearful of me being pockety lol

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:05 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 9:36 pm It's not that nobody stepped up to be a leader

its more rather nobody was able to become a leader because someone else disagreed

like I'm fairly sure I had 2 completely unreasonable (fmpov) scum-reads on me on D2

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 7:27 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 7:03 pm I don't tend to enjoy talks like these, but tbh Nanook I've really dislike the attitude you've shown about certain complaints. Especially your response to what Axehole did.

I called out what Axehole did and was met with "there was no violation of any rules" as an answer from Nanook and I was dumbfounded, but today I went to check the rules and there is nothing about OGI here at the syndicate, so it is really up to the host to incorporate anti-OGI rules.

I can't believe what I'm gonna say but it was not Nanook's fault, it is just not part of the syndicate rules to consider OGI "punishable", and it is up to every individual host to enforce those rules for their own games.

I personally would have warned Axe for the first offense and modkilled him for the second but that is not an official procedure in this community, unless I missed those rules somewhere.

As for the soupkill, soupkills punish claims, if you claim you get punished for it. Straight up claiming, softing and breadcrumbing is part of that.
I incorporated them in my games but mafia can only claim true claims or softs. They cannot just guess a role, there has to be proof of claim to kill it.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 7:03 pm Questioning the need for a soup kill is fair, but it was in the OP that there's a soup kill and that claiming role or character is punished. So. Ignoring that isn't really something you can reasonably blame the host for, you were warned, you ignored it, there were consequences

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 5:29 pm I'm not going to play with players who think it's okay to try and publicly angleshoot with a dead player who is no longer allowed to post in the game. This is a clear breach of integrity for how mafia games are supposed to be run. It specifies that communication is only limited to chats that are apart of the game, and sending codes is not apart of that.

If this is allowed in future Syn games, I'm probably going to find somewhere these to fill my mafia desire

IBA wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 1:30 pm I'm confused by all these different abilities but how did scum kill five people in one night?

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 7:55 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 7:42 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 7:37 pm Like I tend to agree with Grogu that this is just anti town, and Guill has been pushing an anti town agenda. I wonder who the mafia is here lmao

What? Are we playing the same game here?

Idk. I know claims and such, but sometimes mafia is very simple. Kill those who are trying to push the anti town agenda. I don't see how Axe dying is ever good for us

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 7:55 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 7:42 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 7:37 pm Like I tend to agree with Grogu that this is just anti town, and Guill has been pushing an anti town agenda. I wonder who the mafia is here lmao

What? Are we playing the same game here?

Idk. I know claims and such, but sometimes mafia is very simple. Kill those who are trying to push the anti town agenda. I don't see how Axe dying is ever good for us

Grogu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 7:31 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 4:28 pm

Grogu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 4:17 pm We should all vote long con. If you are voting for axe you are wrong. I get it he has been wrong himself but he is not a wolf.
Don’t be lazy and vote long con

Fuck no. Not because i townread him because I dont, i actually have no read on that guy, he’s done nothing! There is no info to be gained from his flip.

Yeet Axe!

What info does axe gives us? If he’s town? If he’s a wolf? I doubt axe is ever a wolf. Stop being hard headed

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 7:37 pm Like I tend to agree with Grogu that this is just anti town, and Guill has been pushing an anti town agenda. I wonder who the mafia is here lmao

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 5:09 pm Why are you so bitter @Guillotine just play the game.

Grogu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 4:17 pm We should all vote long con. If you are voting for axe you are wrong. I get it he has been wrong himself but he is not a wolf.
Don’t be lazy and vote long con

Grogu wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 4:14 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:46 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:44 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:42 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:41 pm StarV is in this game? Lol such an easy read

Ye I'm bad at mafia alignment, sheep me townie

Star the only thing worse than your mafia play is your reads as town

@DaughterOfOmega what do you think of @NotAnAxehole as of now?

Stop. He is not a goddamn wolf. Guillotine stop playing like this. Listen ffs

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:47 pm

Dana wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:46 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:45 pm

Dana wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:11 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:10 pm

Dana wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:09 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:08 pm

All I see is red

:madmad:

Blame the mod

this isn't nanook's fault

Are you done lolcating?

nah

Ok fam, I'm proposing an ultimatum, either we kill Dana in the next 15 hours, or I out Aang.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:41 pm There's a red check and people still think there is a day to be played

I've never seen a display like this in all my time playing mafia.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:47 pm

Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:46 pm

IBA wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:43 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:41 pm There's a red check and people still think there is a day to be played

I've never seen a display like this in all my time playing mafia.

People like wasting time and think that because conversation is how you find wolves, any conversation is therefore good. Just had to deal with this in my champs game.

I'll admit, even if the check is real, I have reasons to want to keep talking that boil down to "me not being in the game on day 1 and wanting to understand where people are coming from."

Would also be nice to read into Mac spew, considering his flip wasn't there on day 1, and doing it sooner than later lets us do other things later.

You have the least reason to talk because you have so much content to scrutinize with a new look.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:42 pm

Felicis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:36 pm Didn't Grogu already claim Aang?

Rolefishing?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:54 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:52 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:47 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:44 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:51 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:49 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:47 pm

Your D1 is weaker

I am a different proposition on forums in fairness

I could compromise by going back onto TSP if you're still thinking that.

@TonyStarkPrime vote Axe with me please.

He's mafia

If he doesn't vote to yeet you I will believe it. You and Mac worked hard to spew him town in case you both flipped, so depending on Tony's actions today I will be able to conclude if you were trying to distance from him or actually get him over as a mischop option.

What you conclude after today if you yeet me likely won't matter.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 5:15 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 5:12 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 5:06 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:22 pm

Dana wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:14 pm Oh I got votes? What's up pals I'm on my way home from camping, at a rest stop but I'll be around for real in a couple of hours

My goodness, you were online at the time the red check was made and already had votes on you.

Nice claim, but you really should change your account settings if you want to make a play like this

This is actually angleshooting, let's not do that.

is it angleshooting or is it a derivative of timestamp reads?

It's not, Guillo just seems to be an easily triggered personality type.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:47 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:44 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:51 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:49 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:47 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:46 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:39 pm

Sheep me, and bring your friends

how bout you sheep me

Your D1 is weaker

I am a different proposition on forums in fairness

I could compromise by going back onto TSP if you're still thinking that.

@TonyStarkPrime vote Axe with me please.

He's mafia

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:43 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:42 am

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:40 am idk if you're trying to get a hammer but we kind of need to make sure there's a clear 2nd for the extra chop

Honestly, I thought coordinating 1 chop would be impossible, now that we're almost there, I can't be arsed thinking about a second chop, it's not like lomo deserves to live based on the event.

or based on his ISO

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:44 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:42 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:41 pm StarV is in this game? Lol such an easy read

Ye I'm bad at mafia alignment, sheep me townie

Star the only thing worse than your mafia play is your reads as town

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:51 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:49 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:47 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:46 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:39 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:35 pmStarV?

Sheep me, and bring your friends

how bout you sheep me

Your D1 is weaker

I am a different proposition on forums in fairness

I could compromise by going back onto TSP if you're still thinking that.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:01 pm I'm not saying I can't be wrong, it's just I'm not vibing sig scummy, I think upon review of his ISO, he just gave off an actual scum tell.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:55 pm Here is my mafia core at this stage of the game:

Sig
TSP
Felicis
ButterscotchSundae
KZA
Justinrs2

Second tier:

Dana
Creature (relies on KZA being wrong)
Guillotine (Also more or less relies on KZA and justinrs2 being wrong)

I think there's quite a lot to see on a re-read

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:18 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:13 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:08 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:04 pm I'm not sure which is more scummy,

Guillotine being a memer that is excessively meming which seems like something a scum memer could get caught up in (or a disinterested towny).

Or EnderWiggin giving the excessive memer a town pass.

Probably the latter?

Why can't it just be Guillotine messing around d1?

I don't see how your question-hypothesis poses a contradiction to anything I said.

@MacDougall I know you're voting luckbox, but can you play devil's advocate for a second and give me a reason why I should town read him? I feel like there are a couple of meta options, I'll let you choose your approach though.

[VOTE: NotAnAxehole] aubergine

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:19 pm

Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:16 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:13 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:08 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:04 pm I'm not sure which is more scummy,

Guillotine being a memer that is excessively meming which seems like something a scum memer could get caught up in (or a disinterested towny).

Or EnderWiggin giving the excessive memer a town pass.

Probably the latter?

Why can't it just be Guillotine messing around d1?

I don't see how your question-hypothesis poses a contradiction to anything I said.

@MacDougall I know you're voting luckbox, but can you play devil's advocate for a second and give me a reason why I should town read him? I feel like there are a couple of meta options, I'll let you choose your approach though.

You're asking Mac for a reason why you should town read me when he's voting me?

Very astute observation. I will not bore you with my line of thinking as you probably have already deduced that as well.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:20 pm So yeah, I've actually been playing to wincon, I don't know what the fuck you guys are doing @Guillotine @Vulgard . Literally not considering anything and blind retribution kill in potential LyLo is just brutal.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:10 pm I think Guillotine joined this game saying I'm going to kill NOTANAXEHOLE and nothing will stop me. It's ridiculous, you can't even have a reasonable conversation with the guy.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:07 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:58 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:56 pm @Guillotine I actually think the fact that you being unwilling to consider reason at all costs is extremely scummy and I am only taking you as town because it feels like my win condition depends on it.

Everyone sees your stubborn stupidity as being towny, I kind of have to accept that's the case.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:50 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:49 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:43 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:42 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:27 am

You can't fix it by killing me.

We can try and we will and if we can’t, we can always say that we lost because of you.

You can justify it however you want, it matters not to me.

I know and that is precisely the point. You don’t care for our wincon, you are essentially antitown regardless of your alignment.

If you are scum forget all that i said, cause i will understand why you did everything you did after game, in fact if you are i will want to rand scum with you in a future game, honest truth!

How about, if the vig shot Hits Mafia, we burry the hatchet, if it hits town, I'll vote for myself and we can lose

How about you just keep your damn word. Self vote now.

I only vote people who I feel could be scum. The post I made was just to prime you to come off of me in case my hero play worked. I never intended to self-vote, that's stupid. Why would you believe that for a second?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:56 pm @Guillotine I actually think the fact that you being unwilling to consider reason at all costs is extremely scummy and I am only taking you as town because it feels like my win condition depends on it.

Everyone sees your stubborn stupidity as being towny, I kind of have to accept that's the case.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:50 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:49 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:43 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:42 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:27 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:16 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:38 am

Spoiler: show

Success

Congrats, now die and let us try to fix the mess you caused.

You can't fix it by killing me.

We can try and we will and if we can’t, we can always say that we lost because of you.

You can justify it however you want, it matters not to me.

I know and that is precisely the point. You don’t care for our wincon, you are essentially antitown regardless of your alignment.

If you are scum forget all that i said, cause i will understand why you did everything you did after game, in fact if you are i will want to rand scum with you in a future game, honest truth!

How about, if the vig shot Hits Mafia, we burry the hatchet, if it hits town, I'll vote for myself and we can lose

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:49 pm

Spoiler: show

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:46 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:11 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:26 pm Why creature man. Omg

I said vig martin is probably our highest probability of wining

Seanzie said not martin

Seanzie said vig long con

I said not long con

I said vig one of

Creature
Martin
Doo
Naviya
HK
Falcon

Seanzie said vig creature

And you just listened to him? The one who didn't want to get copped? The one who LoMo saved by voting Falcon?
Really? Get wrecked!

You could have voted him at any time over the past 3 days and still are not. Get wrecked?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:11 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:26 pm Why creature man. Omg

I said vig martin is probably our highest probability of wining

Seanzie said not martin

Seanzie said vig long con

I said not long con

I said vig one of

Creature
Martin
Doo
Naviya
HK
Falcon

Seanzie said vig creature