The Syndicate

alexa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:39 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:38 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:36 pmim sorry .-.
whatever

you really went over the line imo but i don't care to debate it, the game is over and we can peacefully go our separate ways
like i said in game today, my emotional stuff was indeed over the line but NAI and not like, more over the line as one alignment, it was just how i felt and shouldn't have factored into you reading my alignment

i mean it didn't

although the "don't sass me" was in bounds and a nice touch

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:39 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:39 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:37 pm Gira the entire spec chat was on your side, you did great. Don't feel bad at all, you had an amazing solve.
every time i lose a game by voting wrong i get the same condolences

i am very, very over it
lol, well, I'll say ty then.

you're welcome lol

anyway i'm out, glad it's over

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:37 pm Gira the entire spec chat was on your side, you did great. Don't feel bad at all, you had an amazing solve.

every time i lose a game by voting wrong i get the same condolences

i am very, very over it

alexa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:36 pmim sorry .-.

whatever

you really went over the line imo but i don't care to debate it, the game is over and we can peacefully go our separate ways

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:30 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:29 pm [VOTE: GIRA] aubergine
Oh so you were town...

Son of a bitch.

i don't think so

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:29 pm Nah...I had SPF correct on Day 1 and I let her go.

And I played this LYLO like a bitch.

blame lies with the voter, always

you talked to me weird but i still should have tried to see you as town

i'm just bad at the game

every time i say i'm going to snapvote and don't

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:28 pm [VOTE: Gira] aubergine

I never expected to be in the cross but here we go.

p sure we lost dude

not your fault btw brad

i did it again

figures

silence makse me think i blew it

if i lost i don't know what i should have done differently

had that sitting for 20 minutes

whatever

if it's wrong it's wrong and i'm sorry for the throw

[VOTE: lime coke] aubergine

alexa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:14 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:11 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:05 pm i admittedly read parts of this thread while very drunk so if i missed it that's on me but i would appreciate if you could walk me through your thought process and not sass me
god what a sucker punch of a post

it's okay i'm not going to sass you

i don't know it's just a thing i get where sometimes when i'm tunneling someone and getting in a shouting match i start to have doubts about it, it's nothing concrete necessarily

it's difficult because i have doubts on everyone but reading lc he makes the most sense
the most concerning thing to me is i'm reading your recent posts as you thinking the world is LC/me

is that what you're saying?

i've considered the possibility but am not voting you today (because i'd 100% lose, but also because i am far less confident)

my whole deal is i have 1 vote and i'd rather take it one step at a time because trying to get the exact team usually messes it up

alexa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:05 pm i admittedly read parts of this thread while very drunk so if i missed it that's on me but i would appreciate if you could walk me through your thought process and not sass me

god what a sucker punch of a post

it's okay i'm not going to sass you

i don't know it's just a thing i get where sometimes when i'm tunneling someone and getting in a shouting match i start to have doubts about it, it's nothing concrete necessarily

it's difficult because i have doubts on everyone but reading lc he makes the most sense

alexa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:01 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:00 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:58 pm You get the moral victory when you win the game not when you vote for town and the game ends
point is i'd rather control my own destiny and vote what i feel is right even if i lose that 1v1
i don't understand why you're now off of SPF?

have you actually been following my line of thought or were you taking me voting her as a given

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:58 pm You get the moral victory when you win the game not when you vote for town and the game ends

point is i'd rather control my own destiny and vote what i feel is right even if i lose that 1v1

and i usually am

if i let myself second-guess off of spf just another sorry medal in my hall of shame

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:34 pm If Gira votes me and we're both town I'm blaming myself quite a bit.

it's 100% on me if i'm wrong, always is

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:27 pm But like voting for LC is suicidal in this position, right?

possibly, or just a throw

but i'm different from you in that i don't base my decisions off assumed win probability, i just play for the moral victory and trying to be right and if people misread me, well i get annoyed but it's on the ultimately

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:24 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:23 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:21 pm Yeah but I thought you were just throwing things into the air to see what flies.
why would i do that
Reaction testing and asking questions about what concerns you. Playing LYLO.

i don't get why you assume that's how i play this

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:21 pm Yeah but I thought you were just throwing things into the air to see what flies.

why would i do that

if you weren't expecting that you haven't been reading my posts

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:14 pm if anyone plans to vote tonight then i would politely request that they do it within the next couple of hours

voting LC in 30 minutes

if you strongly object to this possibility then vote before then

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:01 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:06 pm Is TSP mafia that is also trying to get me ML'd? One of them could be, right?
How is it that there are four different people who think I’m trying to get them MLed

i have not proposed that you are trying to get me MLed

wow game went dead huh

i'm mostly going on emotional stuff from him which is maybe not the best process but he's a weird dude and his particular salt at times in this game didn't seem fake

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:49 pm ok I'm now prepared to lose the game to LC if both Alexa and SPF are and I just think I have to live with that. In which case, Gira, get on my page.

i mean nominally at least one of them should be mafia fypov so

i reread crichard, i forgot he had posted as much as he did

still think probably town though i admittedly have no idea how to judge his analysis because the conclusions he draws are so simplistic

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:46 pm counterpoint: you're not being convincing right now

lmao

i'll reread crichard i guess

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:42 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:41 pm but process-wise i am staunchly against waiting until the last minute for the first vote in ELO
yeah that's fair, i believe very strongly that people should wait at ~least 24 hours before voting in LYLO in 99% of situations, but we're at a point where i wouldnt really be mad if someone ended up voting because it feels like the thread is in somewhat of a stalemate

that said, if youre town then i dont really think that LC is the right vote. not sure how to convince you otherwise

torn because i want to speak my own truth and think your townread on him is shallow

but process-wise i am staunchly against waiting until the last minute for the first vote in ELO

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:04 pm @Gira - is LC still your top scumread, or has your view of the game changed since you initially wolfread him?

i reread his posting the last few days and see no reason to believe he isn't mafia in cruise control and is playing today like i'd expect a mafia to

i only held off because you demanded no one vote

alexa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:45 pm Crichard getting emotional under pressure as town is not "always" (like, when i subbed into anon game, he was saying he was fine dying), it's in sporadic bursts of moment

he says "Pathetic response. You're cornered I get it." to a vote on him which is like, imo a similar sentiment

no not really at all, the point is that as town he gets frustrated at being scumread that doesn't happen as mafia it's a very basic sort of tell

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:39 pm In all seriousness I'm actually putting pressure on myself here and it's probably unnecessary given how the game has gone...

Which is kind of "lol" to say the least after Day 2 started.

i don't get what this is supposed to mean?

alexa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:08 pm yeah i'm looking at Multiball game and... definitely don't think he's out of his scum range

alexa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:13 pm he doesn't take it quite as far as this game i don't think but a lot of emotional anger "pathetic"ness calls toward people/defeatism at points/etc - so like that stuff alone should be NAI

they're not, like, remotely the same

there he's very passive and accepting of pressure toward him, he channels basically none of the outrage he has toward getting misread as town

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:35 pm You make yourself obvious town first then use your high ground to fuck around.

nah i have to kill my brain to not care at all

how i wish i could be the carefree jokeman instead of the perpetually malding manbaby

where did i go wrong

did i say i'm stepping away again? i did not. i'm stepping away again

that was because insaner started pre-emptively bussing me and i got pissed at it

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:23 pm ok I've never played with gira except possibly in a turbo and so I'm going to need someone to provide a player profile sooner rather than later pls

read:
is this in their wheelhouse as a wolf
and
is this in their wheelhouse as w/w with spf

i don't particularly know what "this" is referring to but i have absolutely leaned into frustration/emotional stuff as mafia in the past, the thing about EM was that it was a chat game with 10 minute deadlines on open setups so it forced kind of a memorization of going through the motions and faking tonal notes and leaning into feelings and all that

i probably don't pull back if we're leaning into cross-bussing today but you have to sip on that wifom

Gira wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:17 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:12 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:05 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:02 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 5:58 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 5:28 pm @Gira -

fwiw, i'm not really comfortable with you labeling me as being part of a "clique" and insinuating that i dislike you or have some kind of issue with you. wev'e been running in the same mafia circles with each other since i was 14 years old and i've always assumed that we mutually respect and enjoy playing with each other, so i'm not really sure why this game feels so oddly personal and heated. we can talk about it more in the post-game, but i want to make it clear that i really do not have an issue with you
i did not have any issue with you prior to this game

i think my issue with the dynamics of how things have played out is self-evident
i have more to say about this but i will hold my tongue for now
i don't care to drag any more mud onto the boards of the syndicate people than i have already (and, massive apologies to them) but i sort of have to express what i think is going on
above all else i'm just frustrated that this game would create an issue between us, but it's something that i dont see any benefit in discussing publicly
i mean if you're mafia it's whatever but if you're town i've found it deeply frustrating. which happens, it's not the end of the world

(and ftr, i have been considering the possibility of you as town despite my earlier words)

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:12 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:05 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:02 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 5:58 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 5:28 pm @Gira -

fwiw, i'm not really comfortable with you labeling me as being part of a "clique" and insinuating that i dislike you or have some kind of issue with you. wev'e been running in the same mafia circles with each other since i was 14 years old and i've always assumed that we mutually respect and enjoy playing with each other, so i'm not really sure why this game feels so oddly personal and heated. we can talk about it more in the post-game, but i want to make it clear that i really do not have an issue with you
i did not have any issue with you prior to this game

i think my issue with the dynamics of how things have played out is self-evident
i have more to say about this but i will hold my tongue for now
i don't care to drag any more mud onto the boards of the syndicate people than i have already (and, massive apologies to them) but i sort of have to express what i think is going on
above all else i'm just frustrated that this game would create an issue between us, but it's something that i dont see any benefit in discussing publicly

i mean if you're mafia it's whatever but if you're town i've found it deeply frustrating. which happens, it's not the end of the world

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:06 pm like smh gira if you're a town you're not getting cliqued the clique is literally a wolf team and if you're a wolf stop complaining

that was...kind of what i was trying to get at? but one of them is town along for the ride

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:06 pm glad to have run the gamut on that one

tbh i knew faking that was entirely in your wheelhouse

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:02 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 5:58 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 5:28 pm @Gira -

fwiw, i'm not really comfortable with you labeling me as being part of a "clique" and insinuating that i dislike you or have some kind of issue with you. wev'e been running in the same mafia circles with each other since i was 14 years old and i've always assumed that we mutually respect and enjoy playing with each other, so i'm not really sure why this game feels so oddly personal and heated. we can talk about it more in the post-game, but i want to make it clear that i really do not have an issue with you
i did not have any issue with you prior to this game

i think my issue with the dynamics of how things have played out is self-evident
i have more to say about this but i will hold my tongue for now

i don't care to drag any more mud onto the boards of the syndicate people than i have already (and, massive apologies to them) but i sort of have to express what i think is going on

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