The Syndicate

Take issue with Dizzy being above spf

[VOTE: dyachei] aubergine
Back to sleep

Arete wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:34 pm (uh, disclaimer, if you haven't seen the pasta, that's a joke post)

Yo Arete

I feel like this might have been a joke post

But also i feel like there's some truth behind every joke and I just got pinged by this

So can you tell me the rationale behind this post?

This thread suddenly has a stop hitting yourself tone

Acknowledging consensus PoE
Only input is Dizzy in Arete out

The rest gets a

Arete wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 3:55 pm ???

is Nutella bouncing back and forth like a ping-pong ball multiple times in the same page normal?

Yes but also read my sig.

Sure I'll pause on the mech.

Arete's shielding of Vulgard looks scarily similar to my shielding of Alison in hindsight and I might just call them a tunneled townie off of that alone.

Yeah Vulgard's returning posts were towny but not any townier or different from the rest of his play, no idea why that's a tipping point in either direction for anyone. If he's obvtown enough to hard clear now, he was from the start. Which might just be the case but also mech.

@nutella put that me/spf v/w world down. Yeah godreads suck but... I haven't exactly kept the reasons for my spf read behind shadowy veils. I know how to read her, I'm showing you how to read her, and I think I've given you enough to get there yourself.

I'd be more fine with pressure on the slanker if we didn't just finish a day of, well, you know.

sunbae wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 1:59 pm Outed, the scenario in which you're a wolf is one in which you physically cannot roleblock amy night 2 because you tried n1 and can't do it back to back

Why can't it just be the wolves prioritizing JK hunting like everyone's been saying

sunbae I still don't get your dichotomy ELI5

Oh

Scrap that then
Back to processing

I have a bunch of unsorted thoughts that I'll probably forget by the end of this conversation but

sunbae wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 7:19 pm i targeted outed wolf as an angel target, not vulgard

Holup holup holup holup holup

Am I reading this correctly as there being two separate targets?
A block and a doc? Not the same target?

Which means Vulgard being town doesn't necessarily mean he was the kill
Which would've been nice to know before everyone started screaming difference check and not after

And Visor is still a weird ass kill but it would've been good to know that was what we were working with ya know?

Arete dya
Night

Marluxion wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 7:08 pm

sunbae wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 7:06 pm ehhhh i think ima skip the whole song and dance because wolves know this is wrong

counter
vulgards a wolf

WAIT WHAT

The fuck dude

Marluxion wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 7:01 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 7:00 pm

Marluxion wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 6:59 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 6:58 pm Who tf would kill me though

I mean dya obviously but they need a hell of a weird team to justify that

It'd have to be like exactly dya plus two deepwolves yeah

Except if there's a deepwolf I'm just about the furthest person from catching them

How so?

My reads are like
The exact consensus
Plus or minus some weird townreads

I mean

Maybe Arete would be the deepest wolf I was onto? But that was just me keeping them in PoE because I wasn't paying attention to them
And obviously they might not know that but I wasn't exactly pressing on them

Marluxion wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 6:59 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 6:58 pm Who tf would kill me though

I mean dya obviously but they need a hell of a weird team to justify that

It'd have to be like exactly dya plus two deepwolves yeah

Except if there's a deepwolf I'm just about the furthest person from catching them

Who tf would kill me though

I mean dya obviously but they need a hell of a weird team to justify that

dya wolf, then poke around in Chloe/Dizzy/Zack, maaaaybe Visor, maaaaybe Arete. Haven't bothered checking unaligns within these but you guys are smart enough to do that without me.

I'm gonna say that's probably not true but I've seen weirder kills.

My worldview is pretty stagnant so no wall today, just gonna say if I'm a wolf I'm totally bussing here so at least wait to deal with me until after dya's dead lol

Even light Syndicate games where I'm low efforting are so exhausting
Why can't I go back to getting N1ed in games like Bee Mafia where I clearly don't play well enough to earn it

[VOTE: dyachei] aubergine

So much for me TMIing Alison

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 5:46 pm

Arete wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 5:44 pm hm

Dya, can you walk me through what your thought process is right now? like a couple sentences of stream-of-consciousness what's going through your head

I'm worried about the votes on me and I really think alison is a wolf. but now I'm worried about c4, too. I thought he had another reason for reading alison as pr but he doesnt. And didnt he mention it when i was in the lead? kind of makes me wonder if he's pushing for the mis elim

Lol people are still townreading this

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 5:30 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 5:29 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 5:27 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 5:26 pm Obviously if Alison doesn't actually get in here and claim she's a wolf, but I'm still considering that a big if.

a part of me wants to ask why you're so sure, another part wants nothing to do with it

What's not to understand? It would mean that she was actually just ditching the game instead of lying low for a mech reason.

but why would you immediately go to a pr read for that? is that really all it's for?

Did you miss literally everything else I said about this?

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 5:27 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 5:26 pm Obviously if Alison doesn't actually get in here and claim she's a wolf, but I'm still considering that a big if.

a part of me wants to ask why you're so sure, another part wants nothing to do with it

What's not to understand? It would mean that she was actually just ditching the game instead of lying low for a mech reason.

Obviously if Alison doesn't actually get in here and claim she's a wolf, but I'm still considering that a big if.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 4:58 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 4:57 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 4:53 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 4:52 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 4:44 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 4:36 pm All that talk of everyone's solving feeling isolated and you can't talk to me @nutella?

yo i left thread for a bit also i have like 10 posts left

chill

i dont actually even know which post youre asking about but your entire perspective on alison is completely baffling to me

The post that you snapped on where I pinged Alison. What parts do you need explained in general though? The initial read that I explained ad absurdum? Or the PR read?

i mean i initially disliked that you pinged alison but it made sense in retrospect if you really think shes a pr

i still dont get how you can think shes a pr though

Is it still just the self pres thing that I think was almost certainly a lie regardless of Alison's alignment or is there more?

that plus the fact that she isn't playing the damn game or defending herself AT ALL

What does this have to do with being a PR? Or is this just "you didn't have the same read as me so die"? I get that it's more complex than that, but I've put all my reasons for everything right where you can see them, and you keep following up with "but you didn't think this other thing too" instead of saying anything about the reasons.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 4:53 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 4:52 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 4:44 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 4:36 pm All that talk of everyone's solving feeling isolated and you can't talk to me @nutella?

yo i left thread for a bit also i have like 10 posts left

chill

i dont actually even know which post youre asking about but your entire perspective on alison is completely baffling to me

The post that you snapped on where I pinged Alison. What parts do you need explained in general though? The initial read that I explained ad absurdum? Or the PR read?

i mean i initially disliked that you pinged alison but it made sense in retrospect if you really think shes a pr

i still dont get how you can think shes a pr though

Is it still just the self pres thing that I think was almost certainly a lie regardless of Alison's alignment or is there more?

nutella wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 4:44 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 4:36 pm All that talk of everyone's solving feeling isolated and you can't talk to me @nutella?

yo i left thread for a bit also i have like 10 posts left

chill

i dont actually even know which post youre asking about but your entire perspective on alison is completely baffling to me

The post that you snapped on where I pinged Alison. What parts do you need explained in general though? The initial read that I explained ad absurdum? Or the PR read?

All that talk of everyone's solving feeling isolated and you can't talk to me @nutella?

Earth to @nutella

Am I that scary?

Your turn to explain what exactly was so shitty about that post @nutella.

sunbae wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:51 pm i really want alison to be jk doing the fake thought it was eod thing that chloe was mentioning for max lulz

are we piling on dya in that case or pivoting elsewhere?

Never should've gotten off

I didn't want the towncred intensifies

sunbae wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:46 pm Yeah, I think it also explains why c4 has been a bit hesitant in the thread today cause they didn't really want to defend too obviously etc

No that's just what I normally do as the game goes on lol

sunbae wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:40 pm I'm not sure why c4 specifically thought jailkeeper given that c4 has been defending Alison for a while - well before Amy claimed tracker - but maybe I'm just misinterpreting that

Yeah I didn't have exactly a JK read on her before Amy's claim, but also I was mainly shielding her earlier because I just thought she was town. This was to explain her current behavior specifically.

Chloe wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:36 pm c4 can you expand on why you think she's JK and show some receipts
because this feels super BS

why would she not have claimed 24+ hours ago like she did in CoV - she knows shes in contention

Rarely see her act anything like this as either alignment under any circumstances, but she made a point of being withdrawn in CoV because she was a PR. In CoV she was the only way with any real traction when she claimed. Here she could actually just self pres.

FUCK that was definitely the wrong way to do it.

Chloe wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:33 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:32 pm I think she's acting like this because she's the JK.

dude shes basically a claimed VT lol

she came in yesterday to self-pres and said she thought it was EoD

no claim

I could definitely see her bullshitting thinking that as town.

If Alison's in the lead by that much anyway I guess I don't really need to hide this anymore. I think she's acting like this because she's the JK.

bronana wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:55 pm c4's play this phase is just weird imo, he'll occasionally pop in to state these super confident reads like "X is town, Y is a wolf, you're all bad and dumb" then peaces out again

it's like he is expressing a ton of confidence but is not making much of an impact pushing those confident reads?

i also dont get his alison read even if she is villa

@staypositivefriend is outed if she says any of this is AI for me.

@Alison get in here, you're in the lead again.

I hear what you guys are saying about Alison antispewing, and I get it, but also she's town.

Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:06 pm I would like everyone who can to tell me why they are so confident there is a wolf in this pair, other than "this has to be resolved." I'm not saying it's not a valid argument (especially now that the vig is dead) but I want to hear something other than that.

There's a wolf in the pair because dya's a wolf. It's really not that deep.

Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 10:15 am Why are you preflipping Dya as a wolf?

I... think they're a wolf

But I don't need to think they're a wolf to say something that looks like a save attempt looks like a save attempt.

Uh...
Unless it's exactly dya Dizzy Zack, I might need to pull out the zomg everyone so villagery soon.

Yeah, I thought the shift off of dya could've easily been wolfbros helping them out, but... I'm not seeing any glaring signs of agenda-y votes here from a skim. I guess in a game where everyone's sorta isolated in their solving, things just happen when they want to happen, and it's not all wolves pulling strings.

Alison
5
23%


Voters: bronana, Dyslexicon, Amy, dyachei, staypositivefriend

Amy
6
27%


Voters: Vulgard, Chloe, Arete, Alison, nutella, outed wolf






I thought I'd have something useful to say about this

Not cc'ing

Someone gimme the rundown of how the dya wagon dissolved so quickly back when it did before I have to use actual effort to pull it up myself
It started with spf's Alison vote right?

dyachei wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 9:21 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 9:19 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 9:15 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 9:14 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 8:58 pm @c4e5g3d5 that is the progression case. what the hell happened to make you 180 your read on spf that suddenly

Her posting got better

that's such a non answer

What... exactly are you looking for here
Do you think that's not a valid reason to townread someone?

i think you should be able to show me what posts and why

Yeah this is a wolf lol

"Hey everyone come look at this one read that changed"
"Not pulling quotes immediately? Sus."

Just finding some random petty shit to cling to

Busywork? Distraction? Fuck if I know.

Just take that explanation I just gave Dizzy if you want to understand my spf townread

dyachei wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 9:15 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 9:14 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 8:58 pm @c4e5g3d5 that is the progression case. what the hell happened to make you 180 your read on spf that suddenly

Her posting got better

that's such a non answer

What... exactly are you looking for here
Do you think that's not a valid reason to townread someone?