The Syndicate

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:40 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:31 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:28 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:22 pm Name 6 townies not including yourself. Get it right and you win the game. Anyone fancy a try?
c4
marmot
dizzy
you

honestly not sure who else, but maybe radishy because he’s my mason
I'll sheep your Jimmay read if you sheep my Wilgy and Radish reads. You won't regret it. BOX THEM IN
i’m actually not as sure on jay as i’d like so maybe don’t sheep that lol

just put him there because he seems fine for the most part and he agrees with me on alison

but sure, i’ll sheep you on radish and wilgy for today because why not

I like his--gasp--progression on Mac a good amount

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:36 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:34 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:33 pm I don't know what to make of Dizzy's suspicion of me so I'm going to ignore it.

Dizzy is POE'd for other reasons (mainly doing nothing townie), but he is not a prime suspect.
I've done only towny things you don't even know what a citizen pays in taxes
Perhaps you have done townie things in the section I didn't read. Feel free to quote them to spark discussion in advance.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:40 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:37 pm I'm happy to accept Dizzy as a town read purely by consensus. He's close enough. Perhaps I swap him with Mac in the uncertain pile. I end up with something like:

c4, Dizzy, Hally, Marmot
-
MR, Mac
-
Alison, Nanook, NAA, Wilgy

Wilgy's in a strange spot right now. I think he is the most actively suspicious player in the thread, save perhaps Alison. Both Dizzy and Nanook have provided strong vouches though so I will think about it. The Nanook-Wilgy dynamic is especially important.
I don't think Dizzy should be a consensus town read. This man has done nothing.

Oh my god.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:22 pm Name 6 townies not including yourself. Get it right and you win the game. Anyone fancy a try?

Hally
Marmot
Probably you
Imma roll with Dizzy
Uhhhhhhhhhhhh fuck it Axe

I'm out of ideas

Don't you hate it when everyone has one more townread than you because that one townread is you

I'm gonna look at the Alison stuff later because I'm w/w with her

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:04 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:01 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:54 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:51 pmEntirely for that one post? Big meh.
It is that, and I just feel it.

I have more success reading town from micro tells (one off posts)
But not a lot of success reading scum from micro tells (cause town says weird and scummy shit or stuff that is insincere all the time)

Town read micro and scum read macro or something.
This is a rant that's not really relevant, but just something I thought about today.

Anyway, I still think Wilgy is town so sue me.
This is a big part of my MO too so I get that much, but this specific kind of read is one I've turned my confidence in way, way down over time because of how frequently it's been wrong
Of course, we could all be wrong. What if wolves are you and Marmot oh wow.

Fire wc

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:01 pm think dizzy is probably not a wolf unless it’s with exactly wilgy, but i also don’t think he would really read wilgy like that as w/w, so he’s probably just v

I was thinking something along these lines too, but the first half seems unreliable
I simplified it into "a bunch of kinds of unnecessary for w!Dizzy to make a read like this"

Gut is saying Dizzy's Wilgy read is towny

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:54 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:51 pmEntirely for that one post? Big meh.
It is that, and I just feel it.

I have more success reading town from micro tells (one off posts)
But not a lot of success reading scum from micro tells (cause town says weird and scummy shit or stuff that is insincere all the time)

Town read micro and scum read macro or something.
This is a rant that's not really relevant, but just something I thought about today.

Anyway, I still think Wilgy is town so sue me.

This is a big part of my MO too so I get that much, but this specific kind of read is one I've turned my confidence in way, way down over time because of how frequently it's been wrong

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:59 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 6:58 pm jay, why is radishes the towniest town to ever town?
I bet I can answer this and if Jay explains what's in my head I'll return the lock town read on him.

@Master Radishes hopefully if I ask this way it's slightly less tail-chasing

What would Jay have had to say for you to not townread him?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:49 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 5:18 pm Town reads
c4e5g3d5
Hally
MacDougall
Marmot

There's some dissonance here, but gun to head town
Dyslexicon
Master Radishes

Not town reads
Alison
DrWilgy
Nanook
NAA

At 9 vs. 2, an ordinary set of roles would call for a POE pool of 5 players (2 mafia + 3 mischops). The arrangement of this game's matrix provides the likelihood (certainty?) of a mischop being lost to an extra mafia kill or beloved princess, so reduce the POE to 4. We'd then need 6 town reads to square the game away, which for the moment does seem like a genuine challenge. I have a theoretical POE built above, but I would like to be more confident about it than I am.
Wilgy is town.

What's the dissonance with me?

Entirely for that one post? Big meh.

I had the thought that if Axe were 2020 Schweppes I'd be townreading him

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 5:18 pm Town reads
c4e5g3d5
Hally
MacDougall
Marmot

There's some dissonance here, but gun to head town
Dyslexicon
Master Radishes

Not town reads
Alison
DrWilgy
Nanook
NAA

At 9 vs. 2, an ordinary set of roles would call for a POE pool of 5 players (2 mafia + 3 mischops). The arrangement of this game's matrix provides the likelihood (certainty?) of a mischop being lost to an extra mafia kill or beloved princess, so reduce the POE to 4. We'd then need 6 town reads to square the game away, which for the moment does seem like a genuine challenge. I have a theoretical POE built above, but I would like to be more confident about it than I am.

More on Mac? I haven't seen you say anything to imply a strong Mac read, is it just that you thought on your resons for a weak read and decided they were strong?

Generally agree with the rest

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 5:11 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 11:19 pm This seems kinda Alison 101 lmao

Also I think the main reason for my Alison tr is presentation, still having trouble describing it but there's an efficiency to it, she gets to the point quickly and bluntly in a way that looks designed to hit harder when you read it
Just makes me actually believe she's trying to stir the thread, and I also think it describes what I've seen of v!Alison better than what I've seen of w!Alison

And generally she seems to not have any kind of schedule for who she pressures and when but these reads are always wrong from me so take that one with a grain of salt
I'm revisiting this per your request, c4. What you describe in orange is, to me, Alison rather than town Alison or mafia Alison. I am not sure I have seen Alison present her views of a game "inefficiently"; that is perhaps one of her core values as a player. I think it's plausible that she has tried to "stir the thread", and that such a description can be associated with some specific posts she has made if they are viewed with the most favorable available interpretation. Things like the elongated process of "reaction testing" Hally apply. To me, the important question is not "is this stylistically a town Alison action?" but rather it is "do I believe Alison is doing things for the reasons that she says she is doing things?".

An example: I am not sure Alison's treatment of Hally can really be described as a "reaction test" or that I believe her when she claims it as such. There are certain motions in the general consensus that can be placed over Alison's handling of Hally like a stencil, and I think the fit would be close. Alison's read changed, abruptly and strongly, in a stage of play in which Hally's general stance of being threatened by the player base at large was concurrently waning outside of Alison's influence. I might be convoluting my explanation, so let me know if this doesn't make sense. I don't have a ton of confidence in this stuff, but I am trying to articulate why I might doubt Alison's play to this point. The Hally example is just one among a couple or a few that I could babble on about had I the time or inclination.

Mkay

As per tradition it's a more specific feeling than I think I'm describing but I get why it could easily be more Alison-indicative than anything else

Mmmff, mff

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:12 pm @c4e5g3d5

I’m not sure I would associate town Alison with a see-what-sticks approach; regardless, I find this manner of complex metagaming to be too specific to tell a reliable story about any player.

If I expect anything of town Alison, it’s that I will understand what she is doing regardless of whether or not I agree. I don’t entirely understand her play here. I think I view her similarly to how others were viewing Mac when he showed up.

I get that my reads can be convoluted, but I wouldn't call that read complex metagaming. It was like 80% just describing why I think thing is town indicative and then noting that it checks out from a meta angle. Just doesn't seem like you get what I'm saying. Not mad, I'm used to it lol, but can you give it another try or something, and if that fails we can call it quits until I figure out some better wording?

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:07 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:01 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:23 pm I don't really care about Wilgy's hammer read, villagers have wack reads

I do care that Wilgy has 0 reads that don't involve the word "hammer"
That's just incorrect. I TR Hally, NAA and Marmot.

NAA I even vocalized.
Oh my god.

Okay, so it turns out that this does in fact imply Wilgy hasn't said anything about his Hally and Marmot reads
And in this case "vocalized" means he said "I think Axe is town because he townread me"

This is pretty dumb

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:01 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:23 pm I don't really care about Wilgy's hammer read, villagers have wack reads

I do care that Wilgy has 0 reads that don't involve the word "hammer"
That's just incorrect. I TR Hally, NAA and Marmot.

NAA I even vocalized.

Oh my god.

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 11:19 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:55 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:54 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:53 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:49 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:47 pm i’m gonna be really annoyed if both alison and NAA are v
I get why you'd be annoyed if NAA is V treating you like this, but what did I do?
i probably shouldn’t lump you in with him

was annoyed at you earlier because it felt like you weren’t even trying to find me and were trying to pigeonhole me into your logic with the dizzy thing and then seriously asking me why i wouldn’t be ok blindly sheeping you when i don’t v read you and you wolf read me

just frankly asinine things that i have a hard time seeing you come at me with as a villager

but you’ve dropped it now so hopefully that’s the end of that
All of those things are reaction tests.
your entire push on me was a reaction test?
This seems kinda Alison 101 lmao

Also I think the main reason for my Alison tr is presentation, still having trouble describing it but there's an efficiency to it, she gets to the point quickly and bluntly in a way that looks designed to hit harder when you read it
Just makes me actually believe she's trying to stir the thread, and I also think it describes what I've seen of v!Alison better than what I've seen of w!Alison

And generally she seems to not have any kind of schedule for who she pressures and when but these reads are always wrong from me so take that one with a grain of salt

@JaggedJimmyJay

Singling you out partly because you probably have more experience with her

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:54 pm I do suspect Alison. I don’t oppose the wagon. I just find the sudden movements funny — not bad, not ill-advised, just literally something that made me chuckle

Do you think my Alison read holds up

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:47 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:41 pm Randomly clicked, saw Alison wagon, loled

Y’all wild
Has she ever been D1'd before as either alignment? Let's make history.

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ost5453820

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:41 pm Randomly clicked, saw Alison wagon, loled

Y’all wild

Updated Alison read?

This is a pretty "Alright, here's what's going to happen" consensus PoE lol

I don't really care about Wilgy's hammer read, villagers have wack reads

I do care that Wilgy has 0 reads that don't involve the word "hammer"

What I've seen and heard of Axe makes me think the whole "caring about pushing reads" thing doesn't apply to him lol

Soz if my lack of response made you sound unheard, it was just that you ended on the thought I probably would've tried to steer you towards anyway so I decided to just let that thought simmer

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:51 pm Imagine having four votes on you after you've town told your ass off, smh

I call this "Wednesday"

Oh my god I'm only now realizing I got sniped by a whole two minutes I'm washed up

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:41 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:38 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:21 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:59 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:17 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 10:31 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:31 am I am fascinated by the fact Mr didn't get yeeted when I slept.

I have no clue how to interpret this.

Goodnight.
Ythistho
Because it adds perspective.

If MR is town, scum for some reason haven't done it yet. Either not present or afraid of the fall out.

Or he hasn't been hammered because their team is actively avoiding it.
i don’t know why you ever expect him to get hammered regardless of his alignment? wolves don’t just do that lol

also why do you not seem to be considering the possibility he’s a wolf?
BOLDZINGA

The fact that Wilgy says the "team" could be actively avoiding it when a wolf MR could only have one teammate is actually a little townie imo, because I think scum!Wilgy would be more aware of the fact that there could only be one teammate which is not much of a team.
i’ve never heard anyone not refer to a two-man team as a team so i don’t think this is anything

villagery catch from you though

Oh come on I've been winning every sniper duel lately

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:38 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:21 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:59 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:17 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 10:31 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:31 am I am fascinated by the fact Mr didn't get yeeted when I slept.

I have no clue how to interpret this.

Goodnight.
Ythistho
Because it adds perspective.

If MR is town, scum for some reason haven't done it yet. Either not present or afraid of the fall out.

Or he hasn't been hammered because their team is actively avoiding it.
i don’t know why you ever expect him to get hammered regardless of his alignment? wolves don’t just do that lol

also why do you not seem to be considering the possibility he’s a wolf?
BOLDZINGA

The fact that Wilgy says the "team" could be actively avoiding it when a wolf MR could only have one teammate is actually a little townie imo, because I think scum!Wilgy would be more aware of the fact that there could only be one teammate which is not much of a team.

I'm willing to fold to the consensus Marmot reads now

[VOTE: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME] aubergine

I want to say Dizzy has a higher mileage this game than GoC thoughts-wise, and posts look less prepared in general
No idea if that's a good way to read Dizzy

Can I get a tldr on Axe that doesn't revolve around "not towny"

@JaggedJimmyJay are you now able to talk about the Radish things you couldn't talk about before

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:32 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:31 pm I wanna stop talking about the hammer thing
what do you want to talk about then?

Idk

I wanna stop talking about the hammer thing

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:32 am does anyone have a reason NAA is a villager?

No heavenly idea how to read him

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:26 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:25 am It would be funny if Nanook called me and Mac outed

Followed by MR saying it’s Nanook and Mac

When it’s Nanook and MR

Triangles are wild
Vote MR.

Uh. Please don't vote MR. That would be L-1.

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:18 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:17 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:16 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:15 am Wilgy is obviously town who next, Alison?

Bro

I was first in line

Way to give away your favorite child

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:17 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:16 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:15 am Wilgy is obviously town who next, Alison?

OWNED

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:16 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:15 am Wilgy is obviously town who next, Alison?

Hally v doesn't seem too controversial rn anyway but the perspective of "This is how wolves would act around my normal behavior and this is how Alison fits a wolf slowly realizing I'm playing differently this game" is prob-just-v territory

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 11:28 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 11:19 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:55 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:54 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:53 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:49 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:47 pm i’m gonna be really annoyed if both alison and NAA are v
I get why you'd be annoyed if NAA is V treating you like this, but what did I do?
i probably shouldn’t lump you in with him

was annoyed at you earlier because it felt like you weren’t even trying to find me and were trying to pigeonhole me into your logic with the dizzy thing and then seriously asking me why i wouldn’t be ok blindly sheeping you when i don’t v read you and you wolf read me

just frankly asinine things that i have a hard time seeing you come at me with as a villager

but you’ve dropped it now so hopefully that’s the end of that
All of those things are reaction tests.
your entire push on me was a reaction test?
This seems kinda Alison 101 lmao

Also I think the main reason for my Alison tr is presentation, still having trouble describing it but there's an efficiency to it, she gets to the point quickly and bluntly in a way that looks designed to hit harder when you read it
Just makes me actually believe she's trying to stir the thread, and I also think it describes what I've seen of v!Alison better than what I've seen of w!Alison

And generally she seems to not have any kind of schedule for who she pressures and when but these reads are always wrong from me so take that one with a grain of salt
the thing is i don’t really buy that it was all a reaction test - that feels like a retcon because i wolf read her push on me and she probably wasn’t expecting that because i tend not to OMGUS

also re: the rest, the reason i think she’s wolfy is because i think v!alison is generally more measured and reasonable (albeit still forceful) whereas here i feel like she’s been going 1000mph trying to engineer something to push on that will stick, and that just feels like how i expect a wolf of her archetype to play in a strong player list where she knows if she’s not aggressive pushing her agenda she’s going to get boxed out of the thread very quickly

It looks like we have very different experiences with Alison because to me a typical Alison entrance is something like this

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:32 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 8:06 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:53 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:48 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:34 pm I'll just drop some reads

Kyle falcon town

seanzie lc scum

[VOTE: seanzie] aubergine
Shucks, 3 posts in and we've already been caught LC...
I'm not doing that, Seanzie.

I don't know this man!
Oh, it could have been so fun though! We coulda made it a whole bit, all game just openwolfing with each other. But now they're all going to think I'm caught scum, and you're just a towny I am trying to bring down with me. Not nearly as much fun:/ Oh well.
Can I have a dayvig please

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:37 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:27 pm I'm confused how my first post could be seen as slinging mud, so I'mma need your help if you want me to understand what you were seeing. From where I'm sitting, I'm having a hard time accepting that "this is mudslinging" is a genuine reaction.
Anyone else: *accuses Seanzie*
Seanzie: hahaha funny joke I love messing around in mafia
BoKnows: *accuses Seanzie*
Seanzie: Explain your read, mafia.

BK/Seanzie are wolves together and trying to distance.

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:07 pm If Seanzie and BK are wolves together then the third is a slanker for sure.

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:10 pm Ratrug and ts account are in the appropriate position to be the third mafia.

And also I've seen Alison in spec chat conversations talking about how pushing everyone is optimal town play because of how many people trust tell when pushed
So yeah I don't think the whole reasonable and measured v!Alison thing holds up much lol

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:55 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:54 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:53 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:49 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:47 pm i’m gonna be really annoyed if both alison and NAA are v
I get why you'd be annoyed if NAA is V treating you like this, but what did I do?
i probably shouldn’t lump you in with him

was annoyed at you earlier because it felt like you weren’t even trying to find me and were trying to pigeonhole me into your logic with the dizzy thing and then seriously asking me why i wouldn’t be ok blindly sheeping you when i don’t v read you and you wolf read me

just frankly asinine things that i have a hard time seeing you come at me with as a villager

but you’ve dropped it now so hopefully that’s the end of that
All of those things are reaction tests.
your entire push on me was a reaction test?

This seems kinda Alison 101 lmao

Also I think the main reason for my Alison tr is presentation, still having trouble describing it but there's an efficiency to it, she gets to the point quickly and bluntly in a way that looks designed to hit harder when you read it
Just makes me actually believe she's trying to stir the thread, and I also think it describes what I've seen of v!Alison better than what I've seen of w!Alison

And generally she seems to not have any kind of schedule for who she pressures and when but these reads are always wrong from me so take that one with a grain of salt

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:45 pm alison seems like she’s just throwing shit at the thread to see what sticks

I feel decently about Alison if I can find a way to articulate it

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:37 pm Very well. Not claim and counterclaim. I still had fun.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:35 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:33 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:31 pm I'm treating Nanook and Alison as claim and counterclaim.
This is also a little wack
Understandable. Will explain later if it seems pertinent.

Still too soon to do this?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:31 pm I'm treating Nanook and Alison as claim and counterclaim.

This is also a little wack

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:24 pm I don't find Nanook's entrance particularly suspicious.

This is a little wack

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:14 pm I would love to hear everyone's town reads. It would be peachy keen. The more the better.

Hally u maybe Alison maybe Dizzy

I don't get the Marmot reads but it's probably my fault for not actually absorbing any of his posts

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 9:06 pm Game felt so much scummier when Mac arrived, and not just Mac lol. Wtf is that all about

It's because I started lurking

w!Alison came back immediately after my post because I was offering her a way out and it motivated her

I don't believe this read

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 8:34 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:20 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:15 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:09 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Feb 24, 2022 7:01 pm [VOTE: Hally] aubergine

Serious vote.
sup?
I think you'd scrutinize Dizzy a little harder if you found his behavior jarring, since I got the impression you were miffed at wrongly townreading him in GOC.
it’s jarring, i just don’t think really think it’s AI

dizzy is more than capable of faking tone/vibe as a wolf so i believe that he’s just down regardless of alignment
1) Dizzy is down.
2) Dizzy hates playing wolf.
3) Dizzy is more likely to be down if he is a wolf.
4) If Dizzy is down, he is more likely to be a wolf.

Which of these 4 statements is not true?

If Schweppes were in this game, he would say something angsty here

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