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- Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:36 pm
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Anyways yeah Imma bounce pls ping me if u want me to change votes before eod bunny
- Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:35 pm
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Lol I came so close to signing off my posts in this thread as I was still used to posting in a hydra
- Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:34 pm
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Alexa is a frozen get rekd
- Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:33 pm
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Oh @cassandra is here but she’s not saying anything, she’s an outed wolf imo
- Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:29 pm
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OhhhhhMarmot wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:27 pm
leetic came in a little bit ago disagreeing with the w!anne argument pretty hard, and I think he postcapped before he could really argue it.
- Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:28 pm
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Well I’m not gonna speak for dizzy here but personally when someone is clear I have a habit of ignoring most their posts if I’m in a rush, so maybe that’s what happened
- Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:27 pm
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Okay siriaafr wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:26 pm@ilario this is why i believe anne is superior to esooa, but im fine with eitheriaafr wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:21 pmsignal boosting this because i agree with the logic andMarmot wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:23 pm I kinda want to chop anne now. And here's why:
I think that Mac is more likely a bus attempt than Jay. Jay had taken heat on Day 1, but he wasn't truly in danger until the final hour of the day, so any wolves who bussed him would have had to be active at EOD. I've already analyzed the EOD1, and concluded that everyone on Jay's wagon is likely town. NAA I thought was possible scum, but that is now wrong. I think SPF has slight potential, but unlikely. Everyone else there is town.
Mac had a role that, upon death, would take a villager down with him. Of all the wolves to bus, his was probably the optimal one. DrWilgy and anne are the two players who were not on Jay's wagon who are on MacDougall's wagon.
I also think that if anne is a wolf, it clears nutella. esooa being a wolf doesn't really clear anyone. She still could be, I'm just trying to think ahead too.
idk if you guys remember but as early as eod1 ive been thinking anne has been potentially the most important flip for my own worldview and for everyone else's at this point
/vote anne
I’ll check back in like 5-10 mins before eod so if u want me to change pls ping me
- Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:26 pm
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What did we disagree on?
We were pretty aggreeable in that we found Mac and jjj scummy first two days and did our part for the town imo. I’m happy to kick back now
- Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:25 pm
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The thread is just me and the people I tr talking so I don’t think anything is gonna change from me staying here
- Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:24 pm
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@iaafr gimme a name to vote lol I wanna go and study for my exam tomorrow if I’m not needed here
- Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:23 pm
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Someone tell me where to vote I’m a sheep today
- Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:22 pm
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Okay I skimmed it and I don’t have any oppositionsnutella wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:18 pmthe analysis i'm referring to is just on the last page p much. hope you can get to the rest overnight too thoughilario wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:17 pmCan you suggest which page in particular you like me to read? I’m a slow reader so idk if I’ll get done in just 40 minutes to catch up the whole day. I found anne off last eod and Alexa did fos Anne so I wouldn’t stand in the way of a vote on her
I think having bunny clear made this a lot more straight forward to me as he was the only person I was tinfoiling and I feel better about spf from yesterday
Still think marmot is always town and if he’s mafia then ggwp he fucked us all, and I think nutella is town too.
As long as the vote isn’t on any of those names or lc idrc I think we just always win
- Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:17 pm
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This eod is in 40 mins rifht? Why’s it feel so calm In here lmaooo
- Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:17 pm
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Can you suggest which page in particular you like me to read? I’m a slow reader so idk if I’ll get done in just 40 minutes to catch up the whole day. I found anne off last eod and Alexa did fos Anne so I wouldn’t stand in the way of a vote on her
- Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:15 pm
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As in I’ve noticed it, but it didn’t really jump out to me one way or another as far as alignment goes
- Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:15 pm
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The thing that pinged her to me was her push on naa the previous day but I haven’t noticed much of her other postsnutella wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:13 pmidk how you dont see it, imo she was flippant to everyone and just throwing meaningless votes on villagers and just overall seems like a deflated wolf
but if you wanna vote anne instead i'm very down again after marmot/dizzy analysis convincing me again
- Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:14 pm
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I haven’t read today and leetic isn’t online discord, he told me iaafr is confirmed town earlier, does anyone have any objections to what he said about bunny? Because I might just sheep the clear today if I don’t know what to do
- Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:12 pm
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Tyyy I appreciate the explanationMarmot wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:07 pmMarmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 2:05 pmSpoiler: show
Here's esooa's mentions/interactions with Mac in this game.
I think the worst thing for esooa here is that she made three consecutive takes on Mac that looked like this:
1) Mac's not trying to get townread, so he's probably a wolf
2) Mac sitting around doing nothing comes more from wolf!Mac than town!Mac
3) As wolf he wouldn't like, deter from acting like typical town!mac
Point number 2 came in the midst of giving him a townread anyway. It doesn't look like she's trying to solve his slot at all, more like she's trying to force a townread on him.
My conclusion is that a lot of this, including her final vote, is very partner indicative.
@ilario I think you were the one who asked. Here is my conclusion to reading esooa's ISO, there's more reactions inside the spoiler, but my tl;dr is outside.
- Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:11 pm
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- Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:54 am
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I isod top wagon quickly and I don’t see any problems with esooas posts @Marmot @nutella @Dyslexicon can you all please @ me with why ur voting esooa and how confident you are in the flip being a wolf
- Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:50 am
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- Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:48 am
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- Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:43 am
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oh yeah i didnt vote him cos i fossed him, i havent read today, i was doing something out of game and somethign annoyed me and then the emotion of annoyance reminded me of naa so i came into the thread and voted him and then leetic informed me he was already dead so that made me smile lol. pretty sure ive called him naa town throughout my whole iso, except for that moment when i was tunneling him for voting correctly d1.Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Nov 30, 2021 3:21 pm I'm back for a second I read through again and I can't read this game without feeling like absolute shit.
@ilario FYI NAA got green checked by Rabbit so if he's town then NAA is probably just town.
@nutella I don't get how you don't just nail scum!Mac the entire time when you've probably played way more games with him and probably have a better read on him than me.
Like I don't get how you say he's towny Day 2 when he literally flip flopped his read on you right in front of your face as you changed your read and I brought it up.
- Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:41 am
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ilario wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 1:07 am Lmao macs claim is a big yikes
Essentially I find it very weird that Mac would ever give up an opportunity to clear his slot and let falcon green check him so I found it very weird he didn’t just wait for falcon to join the discord, I also think the dynamic of giving the neighbourhood a green check on each other is kinda pointless if they were both green and much more interesting if there’s one red and one green which may be the case.
/vote mac
ilario wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:10 amIt doesn’t have to be a lie for him to be mafia. I don’t have any gripes with the claim I have gripes with how he used his role. And idc if he waited 26 hours I’m sure mac would see the value in having his slot cleared especially when people were already wary of him at the start of the game, especially when he has the ability to carry this game himself if he became clear and tried. What does clearing falcon achieve for town? I’ve seen falcon cleared one game before and he just proceeded to stop caring about the game and essentially 5 posted every day phase, it was a bad decision by mac if he’s town to clear falcon over himself considering ive heard falcon is pretty easy to read from others and the fact that falcon is gonna sheep Mac regardless despite being the clear and i think too highly of Mac to think he would make a bad play like that whilst simultaneously having a poe that I have an immense amount of trouble seeing of having any sense to it. He essentially has me and 2 slots who I have clearing interactions with on his poe, it’s just incredibly strange to believe that he legitimately believes me being scum with either dizzy or Cassandra makes sense based on the interactions I’ve had with both slots.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:01 am Mac's story doesn't feel like a lie? When mafia lie about mechanics they tend to either keep it simple ('I'm a cop') or overly complex ('I'm a cop on Nights that fall within the fibonacci sequence but I only get a result if its a 3P who has activated their ability and I get a double cop on N1'). Mac's story is specific in a different way ('after 26 hours I got fed up and used it') that is unlikely to be fabricated.
Or it is just a clever lie I guess, which is also a possibility because uh we're starting to reach peak 'confirmed town' in a game that's supposedly not bastard, so I can only imagine the power Mafia have here.
ilario wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:10 amHuh?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:06 amIf he wasn't, he wouldn't have checked me & got me into our chatDyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:04 amWhy do you think he's town?
From my understanding the chat already existed BEFORE he decided to check you. If that’s the case you need to clearly outline yours roles and the sequence of events that make him clear to you.
Falcon if you can do either of the following before eod I will consider easing up on mac:
-iso and give detailed reads on 3 poe slots
-properly catch up to the game and give us a summary of where you stand
-make a proper case for someone else who should be voted instead of Mac and why
Until either of that happens I will maintain the fact that I think mac used his ability in a suboptimal way. But as of rn if you are town you’re potentially a clear and doing almost nothing with it and just wasting it.
ilario wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:57 amI want you to do a bunch of work to prove me wrong or else you’re just proving my point that mac used his ability to go ahead and clear a slot that proceeds to do nothing with it is far more anti-town than letting you clear him and remove a slot that will likely be dealt with a shit tonne of paranoia and has been already.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:51 amIt did exist before, but I hadn't joined it.ilario wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:10 amHuh?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:06 amIf he wasn't, he wouldn't have checked me & got me into our chatDyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:04 amWhy do you think he's town?
From my understanding the chat already existed BEFORE he decided to check you. If that’s the case you need to clearly outline yours roles and the sequence of events that make him clear to you.
Falcon if you can do either of the following before eod I will consider easing up on mac:
-iso and give detailed reads on 3 poe slots
-properly catch up to the game and give us a summary of where you stand
-make a proper case for someone else who should be voted instead of Mac and why
Until either of that happens I will maintain the fact that I think mac used his ability in a suboptimal way. But as of rn if you are town you’re potentially a clear and doing almost nothing with it and just wasting it.
If I can, then you'll consider? Sounds like you want me to do a bunch of work for a maybe. Ain't happenin'.
Why is Mac Maf? Oh yeah, using an ability suboptimally doesn't make someone Maf. You're too eager to lynch someone you seem to be aware stands a good chance of being town.
Like you have little awareness of what’s actually happening which is why I’m prompting you to actually read the thread in my previous post because if you paid any attention you would realize half the people you’re accusing of being eager to lynch mac aren’t even voting him right now.
ilario wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 11:25 amI’m saying that mac was in a position where he was already being scumread by the lobby. He was also playing in a slanky way, meanwhile you had almost no pressure on you. In that situation, it is beneficial for him to get himself cleared even if that means he has to wait a little longer. Not only that but He’s seen I’ve seen take charge in games and solo carry, so clearing a slot like that is valuable. And I’m not doubting your ability to carry and I’m sure you’re capable of that, but you don’t strike me as someone who likes to take charge of the lobby and that’s fine because I don’t really like to either even if my play might sometimes contradict that. So with all those points considered i find the use of his ability to clear you over himself very off.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 11:14 am Like, what exactly are you trying to say here ilario?
That Mac is town and used his ability sub-optimally by clearing me? That I'm town using my role sub-optimally? That Mac is Maf? That I'm Maf?
And don’t get me wrong, I can see a world where he got impatient and trigger happy and used it as town, Which is why my knee jerk reaction was to change my vote just a few moments after I put my vote on him and put it in drwilgy who I found to be actually scummy. You can both very well be town, but neither you nor him have given me a single good reason as to why he is town. The onus is not on me there, because you’re the one telling people to unvote mac.
On the flip side if mac is mafia, I can see a world where he’s also just using that as a cover story and was planning to convince u to let him use it on you anyways even if you had joined in time.
ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:40 amstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:27 ami dunno, what do ur reads currently look like? if you post a list of ur reads then ill tell you where i think youre most likely misreading or misclearing
it'll have to be tomorrow tho cause i should have gone to bed like an hour ago
Ummm I don’t think Alexa or lc ever busses jjj like that So they are town. I don’t think bunny hops off like that eod as mafia and gives up on easy towncred and when I was going over eod yesterday with leetic I found towny posts from iaafr and think he’s town.
Falcon is town regardless of macs alignment, I don’t think they’re scum together but I can see Mac using falcons inactivity and his habits of hard tunneling a read as someone who would be perfect to pocket and scumside while Mac just hides in scum chat manipulating him and talking about farts in the thread. I am somewhat exaggerating this scenario because of how annoying falcons read on me is lol and the fact that he just afks all game and decides as his only worthwhile contribution is to random tunnel me is just aggravating. I also think leetic mentioned somewhere that nook fossed Mac and the nook NK implies there’s probably Atleast one more syndicate regular in the scum team and Rn I think nutella is more towny than mac.
Anne I thought was town early on, read through her iso last night and still seemed fine to me. Idk if her interaction with jjj early game is a point in her favour or against her favour given that she is good at theatre as scum. Like I don’t get why she cares about jjjs read on her when they don’t have much experience together but other then that I think she’s been towny.
Naa won me over by his reaction to me today, but him only hunting for two scum when there’s 3 alive is a bit hmmmm
Leetic has a theory that Nutella might have tmi’d esooa as a partner but if that’s not the case then I can see a world where they’re both town. I had reservations about nutella after the flip yesterday but I think her posts today seem genuine and so do esooas and also I think if sloonei was maf with jjj d1 he would have Atleast made more of an effort. I get people can get busy irl but nobody is so busy that they can’t Atleast make a few decent posts. People don’t low post because they’re live is super busy, yes it plays a factor but if someone still cared about the outcome they’ll still put in some effort to post even if busy. I think sloonei would have felt as with jjj as his teammate. Also jjj made some post about saving his posts near eod to get to talk to sloonei and that didn’t feel partnery to me.
So yeah that leaves dizzy wilgy mac you even though you had posts I liked on d1 I also did find some stuff that felt off about u at times
ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:09 pm The more falcon talks the more I want to yeet mac for putting us this in this situation lol. The dude just tricks falcon into tunneling whoever mac fosses and falcon looks like the bad guy tho in his head he’s convinced they’re his own reads. Honestly it’s kinda smart by mac. And he could be doing it as town but so far the pushes he’s tricking falcon into tunneling for him are all bad.
ilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:06 amthis just encourages me to vote mac even more jsykfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:37 pmIt appears to have had less thread impact than we expectedMacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:36 pmyehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:30 pm Some of you already know this, and were alerted as soon as it happened, so may as well catch everyone up to speed.
Mac & I are now Lovers.
ilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:13 amnvm bad readMacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 6:01 pmi don't think spf is mafia anymore, my alignment is not hinged on SPFs alignment... more wolfy bullshitiaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:52 pmi got convinced that maybe its naive to clear you for those associations, which was my main reason (see the two posts i made about hating everybody's association reads including my own)MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:50 pmi don't buy your progression on me from the start of the day to here... you went from townreading me, and then when SPF voted for me you started acting as if you were always scumreading meiaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:49 pm anyway this is post 91/100 for me
gonna "save" posts again (will probably blow them whenever i think of funny stuff to post rather than actual substantive and helpful things to post
my worldview and preferred course of action remains "nuke naa/mac/anne in any order then re-eval after"
glhf
and like
i have been scumreading you for quite some time in this game
and also my progression not being explicit and easily followable is a towntell for me
if youre town you could be right on spf? idk? im certainty a horrible direction though
theres always at least one in mac/spf
ilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:44 am But yeah I decided to vote mac anyways because I’m thinking about the claim some more and their role makes 0 sense to me. So they’re in a chat, and they have a cop check on each other but once they use the check they become lovers?? What’s the point of that dynamic? Why even have the cop check if they’re essentially gonna be tied together, why not start them out as lovers? Idk feels like something mac coulda come up with to protect himself from being voted. I liked that Mac noticed that towny line from naa but then he won’t on to do nothing with it, so meh that might have just been a pocket attempt from mac.
fwiw if anyone has any doubts on my alignment i did a control f of mac and yeah i think these posts all look pretty good for me, theres always a post in there replying to esooa where she responded to an interaction bunny quoted when he said mac and jjj werent partnered. and i thought bunnys read there was a bit off and i liked essoas stance there saying that can still be a partner interaction so yeah shes still in my good books and thats also part of why i was tunneled on bunny for that read.
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- Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:59 am
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Hmm maybe spf higher fk idk
- Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:58 am
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- Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:40 am
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I really don’t know what to make of Anne this eod..
- Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:37 am
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Lol I gtg pick up my car from the mechanic before they close
Leaving my vote on iaafr more as a statement than anything
Gl
Leaving my vote on iaafr more as a statement than anything
Gl
- Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:34 am
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My marmot tinfoil is all gone btw, I meant to say this 12 hours ago but post cap is a thing
- Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:32 am
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I thought I saw iaafr post
- Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:31 am
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- Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:29 am
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I don’t really plan on influencing any of the wagons today, my own reads feel like it’s In a mess rn and I think any flip is helpful at this point
- Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:20 am
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Because I think nutella is kinda towny and I want to steer her into thinking the same as me, and having her tunnely powers on my side would be beneficialMarmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:18 amilario wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:17 amIt sure isMarmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:16 amilario wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:13 amJjj outed a towncore of me lc alexa nutella bunny spf. The first three are town. The next three he barely gave any decent reasons for and I’m sure he tried to sneak Atleast one partner into that listMarmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:12 amilario wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:10 am Nutella fypov if ur town spf and bunny are ur ccs so one of them has to be mafia to you and rn I’m leaning bunny over spf I don’t think jjj would put 6 town in his towncore considering how much he believes in forming a towncore and yeeting those outside I’m certain he would have tried to spew one of his partners town.
What do you mean, why are spf and bunny ccs to nutella?
This subscribes a lot of intent into what Jay did with his "towncore", and I disagree with this particular line of thinking.
I don't disagree with the idea, but the wolf doesn't "have" to be in the bottom 3, and I don't like the idea of forcing nutella into a situation where she has two fight with 1-2 other specific players. That's manipulative.
yo, you're a sly dude
why do you want to pit nutella against them?
- Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:17 am
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It sure isMarmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:16 amilario wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:13 amJjj outed a towncore of me lc alexa nutella bunny spf. The first three are town. The next three he barely gave any decent reasons for and I’m sure he tried to sneak Atleast one partner into that listMarmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:12 amilario wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:10 am Nutella fypov if ur town spf and bunny are ur ccs so one of them has to be mafia to you and rn I’m leaning bunny over spf I don’t think jjj would put 6 town in his towncore considering how much he believes in forming a towncore and yeeting those outside I’m certain he would have tried to spew one of his partners town.
What do you mean, why are spf and bunny ccs to nutella?
This subscribes a lot of intent into what Jay did with his "towncore", and I disagree with this particular line of thinking.
I don't disagree with the idea, but the wolf doesn't "have" to be in the bottom 3, and I don't like the idea of forcing nutella into a situation where she has two fight with 1-2 other specific players. That's manipulative.
- Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:13 am
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Jjj outed a towncore of me lc alexa nutella bunny spf. The first three are town. The next three he barely gave any decent reasons for and I’m sure he tried to sneak Atleast one partner into that listMarmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:12 amilario wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:10 am Nutella fypov if ur town spf and bunny are ur ccs so one of them has to be mafia to you and rn I’m leaning bunny over spf I don’t think jjj would put 6 town in his towncore considering how much he believes in forming a towncore and yeeting those outside I’m certain he would have tried to spew one of his partners town.
What do you mean, why are spf and bunny ccs to nutella?
- Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:10 am
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Nutella fypov if ur town spf and bunny are ur ccs so one of them has to be mafia to you and rn I’m leaning bunny over spf I don’t think jjj would put 6 town in his towncore considering how much he believes in forming a towncore and yeeting those outside I’m certain he would have tried to spew one of his partners town.
- Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:08 am
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/vote iaafr
- Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:02 am
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- Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:00 am
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alexa how sure are you on anne?
- Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:58 pm
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Like I’m pretty sure I defended anne much harder than bunny did and you even saw me defend anne hard in the multiball game so it was weird to be that you didn’t bring that up but you did bring up bunny.
- Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:57 pm
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Trying to figure out whether this weird fixation u two have had together this game is genuine or some kinda of overblown theatre so I decided so skim over some of your interactions . Like at some point earlier today you referenced that bunny is townreading you and that makes you town, but you didn’t say the same for mac even though mac has probably played more games with you? (Just my assumption since ur both from syndicate and past games with you both have given me the impression you know each other pretty well)
- Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:35 pm
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but what about his approach to her was scummy?
- Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:08 pm
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@nutella can you talk me through why u thoufht iaafr had wolf equity to u eod yesterday
- Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:44 am
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But yeah I decided to vote mac anyways because I’m thinking about the claim some more and their role makes 0 sense to me. So they’re in a chat, and they have a cop check on each other but once they use the check they become lovers?? What’s the point of that dynamic? Why even have the cop check if they’re essentially gonna be tied together, why not start them out as lovers? Idk feels like something mac coulda come up with to protect himself from being voted. I liked that Mac noticed that towny line from naa but then he won’t on to do nothing with it, so meh that might have just been a pocket attempt from mac.
- Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:42 am
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Ur largely correct in ur second sentence. Ummm I think spf is scummy because I went through jjjs iso and he barely interacts or talks to spf, whereas I feel like if spf was town jjj would make more of an attempt to speak to spf and interact with her in order to mimic their dynamic when they’re tvt where they speak to each other a lot and bounce of ideas, kinda like how me and u play as tvt. Essentially I think her woulda been more pockety towards spf. And he still pops spf in his tr list despite never talking to her. I think she felt a bit frozen at eod yesterday at times, and I don’t like some of her reactions to fosses today.cassandra wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:27 amyeah that's another thing we talked about so i get that element, but i just feel like it's a trend specifically for people who have fooled you hard as wolf (SPF, dizzy, katze, anne, esooa, etc) when in reality even good wolves can be read in a similar way to reading anyone elseilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:18 am I think the bigger problem with me in the ocean game is that I’m too harsh on players I consider to be great players when they don’t have similar reads as me especially if it’s in a way that I struggle to understand, and yeah i acknowledge that’s a problem of mine.
and also the way you approach reads sometimes is like allowing people who have NEVER fooled you before to fool you then after it happens, never letting it happen again, whereas fmpov i treat everyone equally unless i know they have very polarized ranges or something
can you explain more why you think spf is maf?
also im going to sleep now lol
She’s been too omgus-ish whereas when she’s town she usually tends to shrug it off more. That’s not always the case and there has been games where it gets to her but it usually looks different. There was a point where I changed my tr on her to a sr and her reaction was something like “come on bro you know I’m town” or something. And that’s just a weird reaction imo because me and spf have this dynamic for like the last 5-10 games we’ve been tvt where we alternate on one of ur tr’ing the other whilst the other is more wary. And the person who isn’t being heavily townread is never too bothered by it because we always end up finding each other as town by the end of it anyways so yeah her reaction there was kinda off to me.
- Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:18 am
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I think the bigger problem with me in the ocean game is that I’m too harsh on players I consider to be great players when they don’t have similar reads as me especially if it’s in a way that I struggle to understand, and yeah i acknowledge that’s a problem of mine.
- Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:16 am
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i was voting spf in that game before i knew esooas alignment and i tunneled u because u voted myth when i was sure she was town, neither of those have to do with meta. i then walked back on both of those reads and found u both as town like i had at the start didnt i? it is a trend that i can be harsh on players but is it that bad? i think my style only becomes a problem if i lose games because of it or if i were the type to be tunneled for the whole game on my reads. like both examples of games you brought up, aka the ocreanlover game and my game with katze were both essentially town sweeps for the most part and i think you wouldnt be as bothered if it werent for the fact that you found my tunnel incredibly annoying and ive openly admitted and apologised to people that i am aware being tunneled by me isnt fun. i do value ur read on dizzy + combined with some of his posts earlier being decent so i dont really want him anymore and if u were to out a legacy read on him being town then id respect it. im probably voting in either spf or mac today. and yeah ur points about anne are also valid, i probably wont shield her today unless she comes in again and i find her super towny.cassandra wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:45 amit is though, and please listen to me on this as if we're talking outside of the game because it's a serious trend that happens with you in games. like that one game i played on Oceanlover, you tunneled me/spf as a team because we didn't think esooa (tessepia) was mafia and you thought we'd be sus of her because she was maf the game before - not everyone considers games in that way. i said not to use meta when you described the read because i think there's a fine line and you can factor it in too heavily and you literally used meta in this explanation with "dizzy has insightful stuff as town" - your micro/macro stuff registers with me on a MACRO level but i still don't think it applies to dizzy hereilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:44 amThat’s not even remotely close to what happened with Katze. I read Katze correctly at the start and end of every game I’ve seen her. I misread her halfway in poisoner game because I was getting snowed by arete at that point and felt like their dynamic was super weird af which meant there was always a maf in them two. Once I reconsidered my arete read I went back to tr’ing Katze
I find dizzy scummy because I think he’s overly bothered by my sr on him. His first reaction was to call it bad but he didn’t really evaluate whether it was coming from a genuine place or not. It felt like he was more annoyed that he was being srd for what he thought was the wrong reasons more than anything else. In a macro sense he is very different to his last game, I agree, but in a micro sense I don’t think he’s all that different. I skimmed a town game of his earlier and he’s full of insightful thoughts and isn’t afraid to go against the grain. I didn’t really see that from him in his maf game where he seems more content in just sounding towny tonally and just going with the flow. Like he was cool voting mac yesterday when others were fossing mac, but didn’t really do the same to jjj. He echoed doubts on marmot right after esooa expressed doubts but not before which is weird since it seems that he feels strongly about marmot being scum. He said earlier on d1 he didn’t like my push on him so I don’t see how I’m in his trs now. His tr more or less is just very consensus-ish to me. He doesn’t reveal more of his cards then he had to because outside of his read on anne and marmot and his 3-4 trs he gave I don’t really know his thoughts on other slots which gives him a lot of wiggle room as mafia imo.
his doubts on marmot imo were a lot more passionate/his own and i think you are simplifying those - the stuff yesterday imo was clearly time limited and he expressed doubts on both mac and JJJ, JJJ just wasn't a wagon til EOD.
i realize i may look like a fool if he's a wolf here but i still feel like these reasons are valid.
the 'overly bothered by my scumread on him', ok sure, like he probably is bothered because he thinks it's for the wrong reasons but that's alignment aside, and i think if we was maf, he'd just call you town for it and not question your alignment for it too? it's one of those things that imo is easy to call someone town for. a towngame you skimmed with "insightful comments" is the definition of lazy meta
also im sorry if this sounds harsh im just kind of emotionally feeling for dizzy rn. maybe he just pocketed me really well but lol
on your anne read, i feel a lot more meh about her. like yeah your "only 2 specific things have pinged me" is valid but the problem is i can't point to any concrete reasons why she's town and when she's town, i usually can
- Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:31 am
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- Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:30 am
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also posts like these dont come out until i start tunneling someone, and this is probably one of ur better posts this game, so yeah my tunnels are still justified to me. you just dont have enough exp with me but i change my mind on tunnels a lot during games and its moreso a method of getting someone to towntell if theyre town.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:17 am Not saying that I feel like I'm doing great, cause I'm not. I had a theory about SPF/Lime, cause SPF asked "Why did that post make Lime town" when I town read Lime for a specific post, and that gave me so much scum!Hally vibes, as it's pretty common for "players like that" to question town reads on a teammate just like that. And I also felt SPF was hedgy on Lime from the beginning. However, how Lime has been hard town reading SPF make me think this is not the case, so all this is useless. So yeah, I haven't had a eureka moment, so I'd rather just yell at Ilario.