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by alexa
Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:09 pm
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 4]

good job town!!

thanks for hosting JJJ :)
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:46 pm
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 3]

[VOTE: LIME COKE] aubergine

im bored
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:05 pm
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 3]

i want to sheep my day 1 first read list now because it's historically more accurate grr
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:05 pm
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[VOTE: tonystarkprime] aubergine
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:42 pm
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 3]

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME what are your most confident townreads right now?
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:40 pm
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[VOTE: EnderWiggin] aubergine
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:35 pm
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 3]

TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:34 pm
alexa wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:28 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:23 pm anyways alexa's lock town for the post she made when she voted for mac so vul you can stop worrying and I'm not gonna entertain any of that any more but like yeah i agree with you
can you elaborate on this
You said something like “your reads are so different from mine I can’t see you being town”
okay sorry i didn't clarify really but not just that part
the "like yeah I agree with you" - do you think Vulgard is town then? otherwise it just sounds appeasing
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:33 pm
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 3]

hmm i suppose
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:30 pm
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 3]

TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:29 pm esooa's slot was an ic to like one and a half people
she's like the only slot no one's pushed this game
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:29 pm
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ilario wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:27 pm Also @alexa a final thought I had just before I sleep.

I think people were asking the wrong question early. The question to ask isn’t why you/me were left alive. Keep in mind 3/7 of the lobby don’t know us that well and therefore not have shared the same sentiments wiml was using to try and clear himself earlier.

I think the question to ask is: why was “syn” specifically killed. It could be there’s a scum in this lobby that he’s particularly good at catching and can sniff out better than most people can.
based on what i know of syn, killing them for their play alone would be a bit odd. they are a complete wildcard but esooa's slot was an IC. something to consider though for sure
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:28 pm
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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:23 pm anyways alexa's lock town for the post she made when she voted for mac so vul you can stop worrying and I'm not gonna entertain any of that any more but like yeah i agree with you
can you elaborate on this
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:19 pm
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TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:17 pm
alexa wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:10 pm [VOTE: tonystarkprime] aubergine
take responsibility for yourself smh
i dunno just feels like you've been coasting and in a world where LC/Wiml are TvT you look even worse
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:10 pm
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 3]

[VOTE: tonystarkprime] aubergine
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:01 pm
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 3]

Lime Coke wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:59 am
alexa wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:58 am
Lime Coke wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:57 am
alexa wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:55 am i've never seen you case anyone before LC lmao
I think I've only done it 1 time but I forgot who it was.
what made you decide to this game?
Because I fucked up on MacDougal and realized that I had to make it up.
why did you have to though? and what led you to think it was Nanook after the Mac green?
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:00 pm
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 3]

which like i'm still borderline about your alignment anyway
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:00 pm
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 3]

fwiw Brad if you're town this game I respect you for keeping out of the toxicity and if i'm misreading you it may be because i have the expectation of you from getting passionate and more frustrated
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:58 am
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 3]

Lime Coke wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:57 am
alexa wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:55 am i've never seen you case anyone before LC lmao
I think I've only done it 1 time but I forgot who it was.
what made you decide to this game?
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:55 am
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 3]

i've never seen you case anyone before LC lmao
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:43 am
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 3]

the one thing i guess i'd consider is that a team of TSP/Ender has slightly less reason to keep us alive than other teams (ik you asked about this before but i'm considering it now), particularly because they're doing the least to fan the flames between us, Ender has been calling us t/t, but that's pretty weak
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:42 am
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 3]

ilario wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:41 am
alexa wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:40 am Ender may be kinda skating by.
thats why i was asking about ender/tsp to you.
i think it's possible.
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:42 am
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 3]

also esooa and Mac actually saw wiml as wolf before
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:40 am
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 3]

Ender may be kinda skating by.
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:37 am
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 3]

ilario wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:34 am do you think wiml/vul is a wolf though? i mean u trusted everyone elses reads in ur champs game even though ur better judgement told u it was justin. if wiml/vul is town and he gets mishammered and ur gut told u he was town you'll regret it more than if the slot is maf and u didnt hammer them because you trd it.

id always rather lose through my own mistakes than lose through someone elses.
i don't know. if someone put a gun to my head and i had 0 influence whatsoever i'd call the slot town, but it's hard for me to ignore the voices of dead people screaming at me. like the amount of emotion wiml had and the way he treated me, if he did that and it wasn't genuine that would be completely fucked up, so i want to call him a villager for that.. i think the emotion was likely real regardless of alignment, but the amount he was insisting he would kill in us specifically is like stuff that's hard to make up so stubbornly if you don't believe it
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:28 am
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ilario wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:25 am wagons might be tvt idk

just a threadstate read ig
i really don't know and i just generally feel like i've fucked this game up by hyperposting, getting emotional, and not critically considering things, like i feel intensely that i want a redo because the thread is so bloated i don't have the motivation to parse things. it's been difficult on a new site. you're the only read i have any degree of confidence on and with the toxicity throughout this game i just lack motivation to figure anything out and feel like if i don't vote wiml i'm just going to get flamed by mac and esooa in post
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:25 am
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 3]

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:23 am
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 3]

oh good

[VOTE: LIME COKE] aubergine
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:22 am
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 3]

well he's at L-1 so i'm not going to hammer him but if Brad has no reaction to everyone deciding he's a wolf then he probably is one
and it'd make sense why i haven't been able to find him with confidence all game.
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:17 am
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 3]

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ost5066900
this is the posti 'm referring to

but like if you read any of my games i'm town ever i'm just extremely self-aware
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:12 am
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 3]

I have not defended LC much at all since day one and even pushed him at points. You're writing your own narrative.
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:07 am
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 3]

I didn't even vote Transcend by end of day one iirc
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:06 am
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 3]

Vulgard wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:02 am And oh, Lime Coke's Brad? Somehow, that didn't even occur to me until now.
Turbo the guy, in that case. I villaged with him in DragonVale (admittedly he was alting but not for long) and his play didn't look like this.

@alexa How uncharitable of me to wolfread someone who's constantly self-aware, overreacts to the slightest wolfread, seeks to appease people scumreading them and pushed Transcend for bad reasons on day 1 according to TSP. I could probably spare the sarcasm, but the fact you're OMGUSing me right away for this is honestly laughable.

There are some villagery things you've done, and you've definitely been solving, but I don't think it's unreasonable for me not to townread you based on what I've seen from you in the early game, which is all that I've seen so far. And considering you seem to have misyeeted Transcend who'd be among my top TRs right now if he were alive. Yes, villagers make mistakes and push on town all the time, but I'm not sure how you can have this "scumreading me is bad faith ditto" attitude with all that in mind.

I don't hold my DragonVale misyeet against people like illario because I defended two wolves in that game and it was natural to me I'd get suspected. If you're a villager, it should be natural to you too, but instead I sense immense salt.

Don't take this personally, this isn't an attack on your character. But regardless, I think me not townreading you and putting you in PoE is perfectly fine. And sure, LC defended you on a meta basis, but LC is also very wolfy - so I don't weigh that much, if at all. Plus, you defended him as well, and I think he probably flips W now. I won't pursue this line until I actually see LC's flip, but yeah.
1. I'm self-aware. This is my playstyle. You nitpicked a post I hedged and quite literally said I hedged but just wanted to talk about my immediate thoughts. You're acting exactly how I'd expect a wolf to while picking apart me on a micro-level and ignoring things on a macro level

2. You literally cannot say Transcend would be a top townread when you weren't there

3. And this, TSP's information is wrong, I literally SAID THAT I VILLAGE READ TRANSCEND BY THE END OF THE DAY. It was mac and Alison specifically who were pushing that yeet through - I was one of the few people trying to engage with him and stating that I felt like his EOD was actually coming from him as a villager - he was just making his own bed
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:01 am
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 3]

plus he literally knows my playstyle is like this cuz he's seen me in anni
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:00 am
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ilario wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:59 am
alexa wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:56 am @ilario - Vulgard's posts on me feel extreme Uncharitable but i know i tend to get my view tainted by people's reads on me but it's not inspiring confidence on the slot, what do you think?
hes town, and im not just saying that cos he trd me, if anything that made me a little wary. but then i thought to myself he would probably be less blatant about it if he were trying to pocket me
i disagree because it feels like he went into it with "oh maybe alexa is a wolf because she seems excited" (even though this game has been pretty miserable for me and i explained my excitement) then he went and started nit-picking my posts w/that assumption so i feel like he's pocketing you
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:56 am
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@ilario - Vulgard's posts on me feel extreme Uncharitable but i know i tend to get my view tainted by people's reads on me but it's not inspiring confidence on the slot, what do you think?
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:54 am
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Vulgard wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:44 am
alexa wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:47 pm ah, makes sense

well i will say the games that illario has read me the most uncharitably have been his scum games historically. if i were him i wouldn't take the approach toward me right out of the gate as wolf so i'm a bit hesitant to call him scum, in my gut i actually feel he may be town because i kept expecting him to not townread me immediately in a game (and he doesn't always but he never has outed a SR me on this except when he was scum), and i feel like i'm approaching this game similarly as i would as wolf so i could see it, but in addition to what brad's saying i can't townread him yet
The continued self-awareness is killing me, but I'm starting to think it's a personality thing and not AI.
didn't i defend you for gettin sussed for being overly self-aware in anni because ik im self-aware as town all the time or am i misremembering
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:52 am
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ilario wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:35 am @alexa do these nks make sense to you in an ender/tsp world?
i think the NKs make sense in any world @ilario
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 5:12 am
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 3]

Also I’m going back to sleep
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 5:09 am
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ilario wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 5:07 am Meaning ur my only townread

And my gut instinct was to call nanook town too due toreasons
I disliked the way wiml and LC came in pushing nook after the whole POE was proving wrong
But I feel like I can’t voice anything like this without wiml attacking me and calling me unaware of myself etc

Can I ask you honestly if there’s a way I talk that I should change? I feel like it’d be easier for me to tell from you than Mac and Esooa and wiml who have just been hurting me and making me stubborn because I don’t understand
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 5:07 am
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ilario wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 5:05 am
alexa wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 5:04 am @ilario why do you think wiml’s town?
I’m mostly starting from scratch today
So am I and that’s a lot of why I don’t

But uh the last time I questioned your confident townread it went horrible

Wiml/ LC pretty much has to have a scum
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 5:06 am
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ilario wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:41 am nanook is unironically my second top tr after alexa
Literally the only person who has mindmelded with me this phase
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 5:04 am
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 3]

@ilario why do you think wiml’s town?
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 5:04 am
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 3]

I’m not worried about illario
by alexa
Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:03 am
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Lime Coke wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:01 am
alexa wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:58 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:55 pm
alexa wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:53 pm i feel like i've been playing this game like absolute fucking shit and a large part of me just wants out
You're playing fine <3

I think we're getting close to the actual solve. If we're confident in our townreads then we can easily corner mafia.

You're still 100% on Ilario right? I'm leaving it to you because you read him better.
uhhh i don't know. i think i am. i don't want to vote him right now

this thought process is villagery from you i think @.@
If you're more confident on Wiml being maf then I'll be fine with voting him out today, then. I'll trust your instincts on this one.
ah
now i realize
by alexa
Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:58 pm
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Lime Coke wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:55 pm
alexa wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:53 pm i feel like i've been playing this game like absolute fucking shit and a large part of me just wants out
You're playing fine <3

I think we're getting close to the actual solve. If we're confident in our townreads then we can easily corner mafia.

You're still 100% on Ilario right? I'm leaving it to you because you read him better.
uhhh i don't know. i think i am. i don't want to vote him right now

this thought process is villagery from you i think @.@
by alexa
Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:56 pm
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Lime Coke wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:43 pm @alexa

You know what? I think I know what's wrong with the case...

I needed to look at it from a different angle.

Can you do me a favor and read the case again if I post it?

Maybe if I replace my analysis with cat pictures that go with what's going on in the quotes you'd vote Nanook?

Spoiler: show
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:43 pm Hard townread Transcend
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:46 am What are people doing on obvtown transcend, smh hes billboard town
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:46 pm
alexa wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:15 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:13 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:02 pm Because I respect a lot of the players in here, and people I respect have respect for some of the other players.

Which suggests it's a strong field.
Meh most players are not that hard to read
what reads do you have rn
You and transcend are billboard town

Ender is probably town

Someone else idr who but im sure its in my iso
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:51 pm
alexa wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:47 pm
Wiml wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:46 pm Ok so since the thread died and I've got nowhere better to talk about this.

I ate a burger with macaroni cheese because that's apparently a thing in America and it was actually nice.

Please ignore me now.
lol is it? i've never had that
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:46 pm
alexa wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:15 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:13 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:02 pm Because I respect a lot of the players in here, and people I respect have respect for some of the other players.

Which suggests it's a strong field.
Meh most players are not that hard to read
what reads do you have rn
You and transcend are billboard town

Ender is probably town

Someone else idr who but im sure its in my iso
why's transcend town?
I'm good at reads
Wiml wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:48 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:46 pm
alexa wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:15 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:13 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:02 pm Because I respect a lot of the players in here, and people I respect have respect for some of the other players.

Which suggests it's a strong field.
Meh most players are not that hard to read
what reads do you have rn
You and transcend are billboard town

Ender is probably town

Someone else idr who but im sure its in my iso
Talk me through Ender please.
I'm good at reads
Lime Coke wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:00 pm What is "billboard town" and how do I get one?
Billboard town is someone so obviously town its like there's a billboard with their face on it that says "this person is town"
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:06 pm
alexa wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:05 pm -refuses to explain read on Transcend
-wolfreads ilario

content bad nanook
I don't really do cases
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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:36 pm [VOTE: ilario] aubergine

Im hard defending alexa, a decision i surely will not regret
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:02 pm
ilario wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:49 pm
MacDougall wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:45 pm God I can't get over how town I am.
tbh, i believe you here
Two mafia right here bingo bango
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:39 pm
Transcend wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:34 pm Describe why ilario is scum in like 20 words
The reason that ilario is scum in like twenty words is because they randed mafia this game. That's twenty exactly.
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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:44 pm
Wiml wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:42 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:37 pm
Wiml wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:22 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:15 pm I skimmed through the opening of ilario's scum game that you linked wiml and it doesn't seem like a dramatic difference to me? Maybe I'll read it in depth more later but yeah not seeing it atm
Tbf it's a lot like alexa said. Like the best comparison is a player like Esooa who is a really capable wolf but half of her town games are just very different and she's easy to find in them?

alexa in particular is a good enough illario reader that she was so (correctly) confident that a red peek on him was fake that she wanted to chop the (real) cop.

I think the one thing that is a tangible non-meta difference is how much he focuses on pushing agendas. One thing I recall noticing in a lot of illario's wolf games is that there's a lack of real depth to his ISOs and he mostly just pushes opportunistic takes. I talked about it earlier but he's a very A to B style wolf.

If he's still in doubt later then I'll go through his wolf games and try to actively towncase why he's town this game since it's a but difficult to do outside of meta. But I'm like 90% confident he is tbh.
I mean, fmpov pushing me IS a pretty opportunistic take, yeah?
Why ilario specifically and not the other people pushing you?
I'm not SRing him for pushing me, im just pointing out that "he's opportunistic as mafia" isn't a reason to clear him fmpov given his push on me
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:11 pm
Wiml wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:08 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:01 pm
Wiml wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:00 pm
Esooa wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:58 pm tbh me wanting to policy nanook is my town tell
This is also sort of unironically true lol.
Good lord
The real read is that Esooa really doesn't like killing plwyers she sees as LHF as a wolf on D1 (as she wants easier miselims to endgame / doesn't bus excessively) so her actually pushing for this is >rand town lol.

She's completely self aware of this though so I'm not putting a huge amount of stock into it outside of a snappy comment.
Her pushing me specifically is most certainly not >rand town. Its >rand esooa and thats it.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:54 pm
Wiml wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:48 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:42 pm
Wiml wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:37 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:31 pm
Wiml wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:26 pm

For the sake of discussion let's just say that I'm lock clearing everyone who isn't in my active PoE.

So alexa, Esooa, LC, Alison, TSP.

Where are the wolves in that list?
Alison or lime

Maybe tsp, dependent on ilario's flip
Tbf I wouldn't be incredibly shocked if there was a wolf in those three names, particularly because I no longer have a reason to TR Alison as strongly and her attempt at a push on me felt like a stretch.

TSP if illario is town? Do you have any familiarity with him and his meta?

Also seriously please explain why you think blade is town here lol. I'm usually not bad at reading him but I'm not seeing it here tbh.
With tsp? Yes, lots. It rarely helps.

I'm good at reading blade idk what to tell you. He has townie drive, is that something that'll convince you?
Thanks. Most importantly: does TSP ever slank like this as a wolf in his normal wolf games? If no, do you think he'd be capable of taking a step back this game if he had a sufficiently strong partner? I talked about my thoughts on that earlier but I'm interested in hearing what you think with actual experience playing with him lol.

As for blade, not really tbh. Do you have any thoughts on him claiming that I haven't towntold yet but then sort of rolling that back and saying that I hadn't done anything town indicative yet instead? (After I called him out because I knew he had no real town tells on me and was pushing that in bad faith).
Tsp is capable of slanking as either alignment


I do not, I found that exchange entirely meaningless.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:04 pm
Wiml wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:35 pm
alexa wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:24 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:21 pm
Wiml wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:19 pm Honestly I think both wolves are probably just in Transcend/blade/Nook/Mac.
This is an insane read
i actually agree with it atm
Wiml wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:22 pm alexa is obviously town.
illario is obviously town.
Esooa and LC are both in their town ranges.
I'm waiting for more responses but I honestly don't think alison would fake a derp clear like that for no reason?
Willing to sheep the TSP meta for now as well.
i mean i don't think alison is town for that reason, she quite literally admitted she'd fake a derp, but i've found her villagery by play thus far
I'm not going to just clear Alison on this one thing forever but I know personally if I were town in Alison's situation and made a genuine slip then I think I would lie about it being NAI tbh (and I have in the past when being cleared for genuine townslips). I find them to be pretty dirty and getting cleared for them feels really demeaning lol. I think it comes from Alison as town the overwhelming majority of the time tbh.
This is not a good read lol
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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:28 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:27 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:26 pm Idk mac are you town
yes I am le town
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:26 pm What are your reads
didn't you vote me because you read my reads post and didn't like it?
No im voting you cause I tr transcend
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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:14 pm I mean you could probably talk me into other options, im not confident at all on wiml

Mac, lime, Alison, all currently in my poe and I could be talked into voting
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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:26 am
Transcend wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:25 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:25 am
Transcend wrote: Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:21 am if u r town trying to vote out mafia why r u doing the bare minimum to explain ur read especially when it defies thread consensus

i don't understand ur approach but i don't sr it either
I don't really "make pushes" or "case people," I just say my reads and eventually people listen to them and/or I die
who is another wolf besides ilario
Pick one out of mac wiml Alison lime
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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 6:59 pm I pretty much just want wiml and ilario dead today

Lime is also poe, tsp too, less interested in both

I will hammer anyone tho given the opportunity to
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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:13 pm Shrug

Ok fine

When you guys are done killing me transcend and, idk, probably tsp, and you're looking around trying to figure out who could possibly be mafia, come back to my iso cause my legacy is gonna be good as hell
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:23 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:22 pm Meh im only at 4 locks if I don't count myself

Trans ender alexa and esooa

So need two more

I'll find them later probably
If ilario mafia tsp is a fifth lock

If im wrong on trans mac becomes lock town

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:54 pm
Wiml wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:48 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:42 pm
Wiml wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:37 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:31 pm
Wiml wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:26 pm

For the sake of discussion let's just say that I'm lock clearing everyone who isn't in my active PoE.

So alexa, Esooa, LC, Alison, TSP.

Where are the wolves in that list?
Alison or lime

Maybe tsp, dependent on ilario's flip
Tbf I wouldn't be incredibly shocked if there was a wolf in those three names, particularly because I no longer have a reason to TR Alison as strongly and her attempt at a push on me felt like a stretch.

TSP if illario is town? Do you have any familiarity with him and his meta?

Also seriously please explain why you think blade is town here lol. I'm usually not bad at reading him but I'm not seeing it here tbh.
With tsp? Yes, lots. It rarely helps.

I'm good at reading blade idk what to tell you. He has townie drive, is that something that'll convince you?
Thanks. Most importantly: does TSP ever slank like this as a wolf in his normal wolf games? If no, do you think he'd be capable of taking a step back this game if he had a sufficiently strong partner? I talked about my thoughts on that earlier but I'm interested in hearing what you think with actual experience playing with him lol.

As for blade, not really tbh. Do you have any thoughts on him claiming that I haven't towntold yet but then sort of rolling that back and saying that I hadn't done anything town indicative yet instead? (After I called him out because I knew he had no real town tells on me and was pushing that in bad faith).
Tsp is capable of slanking as either alignment


I do not, I found that exchange entirely meaningless.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:05 pm
Wiml wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:56 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:54 pm
Wiml wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:48 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:42 pm
Wiml wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:37 pm

Tbf I wouldn't be incredibly shocked if there was a wolf in those three names, particularly because I no longer have a reason to TR Alison as strongly and her attempt at a push on me felt like a stretch.

TSP if illario is town? Do you have any familiarity with him and his meta?

Also seriously please explain why you think blade is town here lol. I'm usually not bad at reading him but I'm not seeing it here tbh.
With tsp? Yes, lots. It rarely helps.

I'm good at reading blade idk what to tell you. He has townie drive, is that something that'll convince you?
Thanks. Most importantly: does TSP ever slank like this as a wolf in his normal wolf games? If no, do you think he'd be capable of taking a step back this game if he had a sufficiently strong partner? I talked about my thoughts on that earlier but I'm interested in hearing what you think with actual experience playing with him lol.

As for blade, not really tbh. Do you have any thoughts on him claiming that I haven't towntold yet but then sort of rolling that back and saying that I hadn't done anything town indicative yet instead? (After I called him out because I knew he had no real town tells on me and was pushing that in bad faith).
Tsp is capable of slanking as either alignment


I do not, I found that exchange entirely meaningless.
TSP can pretty easily be a wolf then tbh. When Mac was pushing TSP as having a meta tell early on was that sarcasm then? I took it at face value lol.
Mac might be able to meta read tsp, not sure

I can't reliably
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 6:59 pm I pretty much just want wiml and ilario dead today

Lime is also poe, tsp too, less interested in both

I will hammer anyone tho given the opportunity to
Nanook+TSP = Image[/b][/size]
this post makes me think you're town but i don't understand. cuz i pushed for nanook constantly yesterday, why was it ignored then?
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i feel like i've been playing this game like absolute fucking shit and a large part of me just wants out
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ugh
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Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:30 pm
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Lime Coke wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:27 pm
alexa wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:26 pm ok that last post from LC is actually villagery af

yes @Lime Coke but i have some problems with it

why do you think Wiml is town?
What are the problems?
first thing that sticks out from memory is the "TMI" read on transcend because transcend was nook's first townread, why would that approach be considered TMI?
i will go through it for real though actually in the morning i'm kind of too tired to game right now but yeah
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ok that last post from LC is actually villagery af

yes @Lime Coke but i have some problems with it

why do you think Wiml is town?
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Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:38 pm
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Wiml wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:34 pm
alexa wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:32 pm most of the thread thinks you're a wolf so i'm not sure why you're appealing specifically to me anyway. just ignore me if i'm frustrating you.
Are you literally this unaware of yourself?
stop interacting with me please

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