The Syndicate

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:08 pm Mac's been on the wrong side of nearly every dialogue that has come after Day 1. He's made some nice posts here and there, e.g. opposed to Sonny, but he hasn't been there when it's counted. He has defended players for very bad reasons -- buying Owner's fruit claim, giving orangecrush town credit for asking to be shot. No thanks. I suspect he and nutella agreed upon a bus, and it isn't hard to find that in her reception of his suspicion on Day 1, and he didn't figure the rest of his team would collapse around him so quickly. So he's tried to prevent that collapse however possible.

Mac day 1 nutella push alone should probably clear him, I haven't seen him hardbus team-mates like that and I should know seeing I just played a game with him where we were both scum.

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:07 pm The Poisoner has been making really pro town shots lately which is pretty bizarre.

The poisoner is probably tangy/tsp or mac. I am leaning towards tangy/tsp based on N2 and N3.

Allcrab wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:35 pm
lost monkey wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:33 pm Heads up btw since i have used all the one shots i have had, me and allcrab do not have the same roles. I am the JOAT. So yeah there could be a possibility that martin may be scum.
I take it not much came of them?

N1 was useful, N2 i blocked sloonei and N4 tried protecting you.

Heads up btw since i have used all the one shots i have had, me and allcrab do not have the same roles. I am the JOAT. So yeah there could be a possibility that martin may be scum.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:46 am
lost monkey wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:14 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:12 am
lost monkey wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:12 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:07 am Maybe if we all claim poisoner the real poisoner will out themselves by being afraid to.

I am the poisoner.
Poisoner is definitely from synd.
caught the poisoner
lol nah, bad bunny and long con poisoning would not have been done by perc people.
I tend to agree but still.

except for guillo lol

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:12 am
lost monkey wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:12 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:07 am Maybe if we all claim poisoner the real poisoner will out themselves by being afraid to.

I am the poisoner.
Poisoner is definitely from synd.
caught the poisoner

lol nah, bad bunny and long con poisoning would not have been done by perc people.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:07 am Maybe if we all claim poisoner the real poisoner will out themselves by being afraid to.

I am the poisoner.

Poisoner is definitely from synd.

lost monkey wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:40 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:17 am
lost monkey wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:12 am Good kill, sorry for doubting you sloonei.
how many more wolves are there and who are they?
LOL 2 more i guess.

one should be act and the other dont know.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:17 am
lost monkey wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:12 am Good kill, sorry for doubting you sloonei.
how many more wolves are there and who are they?

LOL 2 more i guess.

Good kill, sorry for doubting you sloonei.

[VOTE: Act] aubergine

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:42 am Why are you voting along Thunderdome lines more than 24 hours from EOD LoMo? I hate that.

Better to start now, what if we start feeling they both are town. Are we gonna start with someone else at eod?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 7:34 pm Hello. I was a 1-shot universal backup. Now I am a 1-shot desperado. I wanted this to happen yesterday, but a roleblock prevented me.

I intend to shoot today. I may or may not still be protected by LC’s vest. So, who do I shoot?

you shot but got blocked but you still had the shot?

Unless you die using that power, i wont believe you.

[VOTE: martin] aubergine

I believe his claim but i wanna see a thunderdome happen. I would have preferred it between act and orange.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:31 am
lost monkey wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:29 am Did sloonei claim one shot?
yes

Didn't he say he got roleblocked N2, So how would he know if he is one shot and got belzy's power already.

Did sloonei claim one shot?

Allcrab wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 5:08 pm Okay but after you mislynch me can you lynch act cuz still pretty sure they wolf they spent all their time afaik tunneling a villager and act from what I know isn't that narrow in their vision so like preeeettty sure they wolfing.

I agree.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:23 am
lost monkey wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:23 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:20 am
Alison wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:19 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:18 am
bad bunny wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:17 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:15 am

Does it not matter that he buried Nutella?
idk if he was one of the first to push nutella then yes, if he was one of the last voters then no i dont think so ?
I think that he and I were the main ppl that were responsible for her wagon.
first of all i take credit for that wagon too

second of all I think nook isn't mafia but I think he can be poisoner
Lol fine.
lol though i didn't vote i got so many votes because i was the first one to call out nutella being fake.
who voted you?

jay, tangy, nutella and someone else as well.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:22 am
lost monkey wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:21 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:19 am
lost monkey wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:18 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:14 am
lost monkey wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:13 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:11 am

Nanook?
yeah, why not?
why?
Somewhat had a town lean on him D1, but right now i got nothing.
Is that sufficient for Sloonei to shoot at him? I think Nook is town.
clearing people is still clearing.
Sloonei would die.

What if he says in the end its bullshit, what then?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:20 am
Alison wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:19 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:18 am
bad bunny wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:17 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:15 am
bad bunny wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:15 am i really have no idea what nooks alignment could be
Does it not matter that he buried Nutella?
idk if he was one of the first to push nutella then yes, if he was one of the last voters then no i dont think so ?
I think that he and I were the main ppl that were responsible for her wagon.
first of all i take credit for that wagon too

second of all I think nook isn't mafia but I think he can be poisoner
Lol fine.

lol though i didn't vote i got so many votes because i was the first one to call out nutella being fake.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:19 am
lost monkey wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:18 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:14 am
lost monkey wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:13 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:11 am
lost monkey wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:08 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:06 am

1 shot uni back up. Has the desperado shot. Wants input on who to shoot.
Should use it on act or nanook probably.
Nanook?
yeah, why not?
why?
Somewhat had a town lean on him D1, but right now i got nothing.
Is that sufficient for Sloonei to shoot at him? I think Nook is town.

clearing people is still clearing.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:14 am
lost monkey wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:13 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:11 am
lost monkey wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:08 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:06 am
lost monkey wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:05 am
Actvscenei wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:02 am

So you don’t believe Sloonei’s claim? Can you explain why? The way I’ve thought about it: if he is scum making this claim, what purpose does it serve? We seem to believe there can be multiple roles this game so it wouldn’t really hard anyone enough to cc. If he has a kill, why not just use it secretly?
sloonei has claimed? I haven't caught up, just saw the kills and came to that conclusion.
1 shot uni back up. Has the desperado shot. Wants input on who to shoot.
Should use it on act or nanook probably.
Nanook?
yeah, why not?
why?

Somewhat had a town lean on him D1, but right now i got nothing.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:14 am
lost monkey wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:12 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:07 am
lost monkey wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:05 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:04 am
lost monkey wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:03 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 7:59 am

is this mech or just a read? or is it just hypothetical?
Hypothetical but also with how the NK's are progressing and their reads.
It's entirely plausible they've both been targeted for NKs at this point don't you think?
jjj maybe, sloonei nah.
Do you have a hypothesis on who was targeted n1? Sloonei had a vest and Hawk is confirmed town healer now. Without any doc claims to the contrary it just looks like it was aimed at him.
I can probably guess who from synd targeted jay but its useful to scum not us. I am damn sure allcrab is town, i believe his claims and so should all of you. Scum can probably both kill and use there abilities on the same night, i am not too sure on this. I can do certain assumptions but i dont want to do it right now.
you believe his claim? you know he changed it yeh? he's now an unlimited normal watcher. Are you still a 1 shot whatever?

yeah and i already guessed what role he had so it doesn't surprise me.

bad bunny wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:12 am If theres a desparado shot shouldnt orangecrush or martin be targeted

Orangecrush is fine as well but i believe martin's claim. Didn't alison say she hard town reads martin, has that changed?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:11 am
lost monkey wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:08 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:06 am
lost monkey wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:05 am
Actvscenei wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:02 am
lost monkey wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 7:57 am
bad bunny wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 7:54 am

why not both?
Its possible but I don't think so.
So you don’t believe Sloonei’s claim? Can you explain why? The way I’ve thought about it: if he is scum making this claim, what purpose does it serve? We seem to believe there can be multiple roles this game so it wouldn’t really hard anyone enough to cc. If he has a kill, why not just use it secretly?
sloonei has claimed? I haven't caught up, just saw the kills and came to that conclusion.
1 shot uni back up. Has the desperado shot. Wants input on who to shoot.
Should use it on act or nanook probably.
Nanook?

yeah, why not?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:07 am
lost monkey wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:05 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:04 am
lost monkey wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:03 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 7:59 am
lost monkey wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 7:53 am jjj or sloonei, one of them is scum but which one?
is this mech or just a read? or is it just hypothetical?
Hypothetical but also with how the NK's are progressing and their reads.
It's entirely plausible they've both been targeted for NKs at this point don't you think?
jjj maybe, sloonei nah.
Do you have a hypothesis on who was targeted n1? Sloonei had a vest and Hawk is confirmed town healer now. Without any doc claims to the contrary it just looks like it was aimed at him.

I can probably guess who from synd targeted jay but its useful to scum not us. I am damn sure allcrab is town, i believe his claims and so should all of you. Scum can probably both kill and use there abilities on the same night, i am not too sure on this. I can do certain assumptions but i dont want to do it right now.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:06 am
lost monkey wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:05 am
Actvscenei wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:02 am
lost monkey wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 7:57 am
bad bunny wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 7:54 am
lost monkey wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 7:53 am jjj or sloonei, one of them is scum but which one?
why not both?
Its possible but I don't think so.
So you don’t believe Sloonei’s claim? Can you explain why? The way I’ve thought about it: if he is scum making this claim, what purpose does it serve? We seem to believe there can be multiple roles this game so it wouldn’t really hard anyone enough to cc. If he has a kill, why not just use it secretly?
sloonei has claimed? I haven't caught up, just saw the kills and came to that conclusion.
1 shot uni back up. Has the desperado shot. Wants input on who to shoot.

Should use it on act or nanook probably.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:04 am
lost monkey wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:03 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 7:59 am
lost monkey wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 7:53 am jjj or sloonei, one of them is scum but which one?
is this mech or just a read? or is it just hypothetical?
Hypothetical but also with how the NK's are progressing and their reads.
It's entirely plausible they've both been targeted for NKs at this point don't you think?

jjj maybe, sloonei nah.

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 8:02 am
lost monkey wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 7:57 am
bad bunny wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 7:54 am
lost monkey wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 7:53 am jjj or sloonei, one of them is scum but which one?
why not both?
Its possible but I don't think so.
So you don’t believe Sloonei’s claim? Can you explain why? The way I’ve thought about it: if he is scum making this claim, what purpose does it serve? We seem to believe there can be multiple roles this game so it wouldn’t really hard anyone enough to cc. If he has a kill, why not just use it secretly?

sloonei has claimed? I haven't caught up, just saw the kills and came to that conclusion.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 7:59 am
lost monkey wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 7:53 am jjj or sloonei, one of them is scum but which one?
is this mech or just a read? or is it just hypothetical?

Hypothetical but also with how the NK's are progressing and their reads.

bad bunny wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 7:54 am
lost monkey wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 7:53 am jjj or sloonei, one of them is scum but which one?
why not both?

Its possible but I don't think so.

jjj or sloonei, one of them is scum but which one?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 10:05 pm Long Con smells like a hawk teammate just saying things to say things 2BQF.

This seems too easy and stupid for scum to do.

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 11:26 am
lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 11:24 am
Actvscenei wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 7:25 pm How exactly does your 2-shot healer work? It’s a day action? Why would you waste it knowing Alison was poisoned? How did you waste it? Like...who else would you have healed? Lol

You were roleblocked N1, does this roleblock extend into the day phase? Is that why you didn’t heal Alison?

If Gavial already claimed to have blocked your action, and everyone was calling you scum for it, why didn’t you claim then? It would have saved us a lot of time and speculation and may have clued us into Alison’s fate because for all you knew, Alison was about to be dead. If you’re town, and Alison is so clearly town (and someone who favors legacy reads), maybe it would have benefited town to know so Alison could potentially leave some reads.

Your timing for the claim does not align. The logics don’t fit.

[VOTE: HAWK] aubergine
Basically what i felt about hawk's post as well.
Hawk has since claimed 1-shot healer

I know but what's the use. Basically the bolded.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 8:05 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 8:02 pm Also multiple people have pointed out that there was a chance Gavial would kill JJJ simply because Gavial is a loose cannon. Not sure why that's hard to understand.
Who? I'd like to take a look cause it sounds like people trying to discredit someone with a redcheck. Dont you think?

I also felt that gavial would take jjj with him.

I really feel bad for hawk when she played so well on D1 and then everything going down on N1.

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 7:25 pm How exactly does your 2-shot healer work? It’s a day action? Why would you waste it knowing Alison was poisoned? How did you waste it? Like...who else would you have healed? Lol

You were roleblocked N1, does this roleblock extend into the day phase? Is that why you didn’t heal Alison?

If Gavial already claimed to have blocked your action, and everyone was calling you scum for it, why didn’t you claim then? It would have saved us a lot of time and speculation and may have clued us into Alison’s fate because for all you knew, Alison was about to be dead. If you’re town, and Alison is so clearly town (and someone who favors legacy reads), maybe it would have benefited town to know so Alison could potentially leave some reads.

Your timing for the claim does not align. The logics don’t fit.

[VOTE: HAWK] aubergine

Basically what i felt about hawk's post as well.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 11:06 am No. There is no way town has two watchers, so one of you has to be fakeclaiming cause Watcher is a very powerful role, it is considered an OP role in a lot of places. So for us to have two?
Nah

Its not technically a watcher and all crab didn't need to even claim it if he was scum when i revealed the info just before him. Don't try to think what the setup could be, you don't know what is there.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 5:26 pm Gonna legit feel bad if we just killed Owner in part on a red check and are now sitting on two more correct red checks.

Other than hawk, who is the second one?

The whole me and crab thing got to stop, its just bad play to keep talking about it when even the two people who claimed it are not saying anything. If you want more it could be that all crab is the actual role and i am one shot.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:55 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:51 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:46 pm Also we have to look at why Kito, a fruit vendor is dead. What reads did he pass that mafia felt it was a threat.
Not a fruit vendor. Gift giver. Hands out useful stuff.
Useful stuff? Are you making shit up? I got chocolates from him and can't do anything with them except getting metaphorical heartburn.

You should read what kito was saying and what he was making out the role to be.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:46 pm Also the Gavial/JJJ date idea sounds very Mac to me.

yeah no, i would rather lynch you or sloonei than mac.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:44 pm A deepwolf is better than a roleblocker specially after losing two mafia and missing a night kill, yes! Absolutely yes!

lol no.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:40 pm Martin, if JJJ flips mafia I'm having you hang.

There is no way JJJ does not get killed by mafia last night when they have the chance, I'm telling you this as someone whose very effective at being a wolf, I kill loud voices with thread clout over claimed roles, I would have killed JJJ last night after watching that EoD, no questions asked.
The only way JJJ does not die is if he is Mafia.

You are looking at this at a very one directional, i can wifom any way with this and say why jjj doesnt get targeted. Lets say jay gets killed but a role blocker gavial being alive is better for mafia?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:27 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:26 pm So the host lied?
You're misinterpreting the host.

nah, i asked the mods, if i had kill powers you would have died if i would have targeted you.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:18 pm Mafia probably thought they could stick me in a room with Gavial and that he'd bring chaos and fail to be cooperative, but they underestimated my boy.

That would mean this plan definitely is coming from a synd scum player. Who do you think would have done this?

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:18 pm [VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

There is no way Mafia don't kill both jailkept players who are immune to any abilities but kills.

So mafia had 2 nks?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:14 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:13 pm Okay so the mafia almost certainly did not try to kill me on Night 1, and therefore Gavial's role block on hawkataine looms ever larger.
Why is that?

that would explain gavial and jay being jail kept?

Poisoner probably 3p.

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