The Syndicate

That's for alternate timelines of us to know.

Ruri wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:31 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:24 pm So, I'll take some blame for this one.

I had a super secret Ruri case I was sitting on because I thought I had 2 day cycles after I was poisoned. I wanted 112 out (And was right she wasn't town, even if I was wrong on alignment) and then the next day I was going to probe a bit before springing my Ruri sus.

Which was absolutely foiled by me dying after one phase.

ggwp. I liked making Horse Memes to soft my flavour.
What kind of case?

A "I think this is wolf" case

I'm just going to take pride in the only real panic moment going through when I cased and pushed MR hard.

So, I'll take some blame for this one.

I had a super secret Ruri case I was sitting on because I thought I had 2 day cycles after I was poisoned. I wanted 112 out (And was right she wasn't town, even if I was wrong on alignment) and then the next day I was going to probe a bit before springing my Ruri sus.

Which was absolutely foiled by me dying after one phase.

ggwp. I liked making Horse Memes to soft my flavour.

Well I'm out until night so sleep well all y'all degenerates.

Bo has to be there regardless of alignment so that's irrelevant of a question to ask.

112: I'm not going to be around I think
Also 112: Immediate reaction to another vote.

What today proves is that if I'm right mafia don't want to be busy fighting me or Scotty's follow up case killed the wim of scum.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:28 am Speaking of doc, Urist claims doc but isnt dead?

Common. Doc is most useful when they aren't outed. Outed Doc is easy to block or prevent.

Poison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:56 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:50 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:47 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:34 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:32 am
112 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:30 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:18 am
Tell me please how do you read Rondo and why
closer to neutral than anything but i've been shifting around. i had him as slightly town before i left the thread yesterday and went to sleep. part of me feels that if the town's best guess is rondo we're probably not winning this game. whether that should have any effect on how i read him idk.

to be honest i feel like my heart thinks he's town and that i'm being somewhat peer-pressured into thinking he's wolfier than he actually is to me.

i think what i called abrasiveness in him is usually a wolf trait but i don't think it's wolfy here. not sure i can really elaborate on that, but just that he's been very consistently posting with attitude in every post i've read makes me like him more somehow. like it doesn't feel like an act.

as far as solvey stuff from rondo, i don't really have anything in mind, but i've melded with some posts and insights iirc and he seems to be actually contributing better than others?

like i'm not saying he can't be wolf but i don't understand fully why he's your first choice
A very thoroughly-winded read of Rondo. Wagons were 3-3-5 Wilgy-Rondo-MR
Based on that, it is even more likely Rondo is a potential teammate.
no scotty please. I have a cop check from wiggly saying I am good. Trust in me
If probably place less interest in mafia players town reading others, but I can’t rule you out.

I don’t know Wilgy is good. Do you?
If 112 flips red we turbo Wilgy btw btw btw.
explain this to me

Ender: Hey Doc failed? Well, I might have a reason to think I blocked the kill and if I did then exactly Wilgy is scum.
Ender: Unless maybe someone else has a reason?
...
Silence Reigns
112: Maybe I blocked the thing.

If 112 is red the only sequence of events this happens in is if exactly DrWilgy is her partner.
Becuase otherwise 112 lets me turbo DrWilgy and laughs about it.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:50 am
Poison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:47 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:44 am
Poison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:42 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:36 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:35 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:27 pm

These slots have been content to ignore me because I was digging my own grave. But now I am on Bo they are pushing me pretty hard, does Uri/Ruri/Bo-Syn have equity?
Out yourself more pls
Tunnel me more pls
this is town wtf is wrong with people?
any specific part of it town?
yeah. given that you are one of the players from my night action, unless you are confident with yourself you wouldn't be poking around people to poke you back, plus i find you towny because you just give me the vibes from my early town games in my homesite.
oh ask @EnderWiggin I AM full of myself. But I appreciate the read

Can confirm. Rondo is a full of herself schoolgirl. =P

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:06 am
Poison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:05 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:04 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:54 am Seriously though.

I’d rather poop a bicycle than ISO Rondo.
this made me giggle like a school girl
are you not?
oh no, im caught

Can confirm Rondo is a schoolgirl.

Did scum really set themselves up in a triangle for me to knock over?

That idea feels too easy.

Poison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:59 amMorning

Afternoon

At which point you're... probably dead I guess?

Rondo is only ever on the table if Wilgy is red.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:50 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:49 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:42 am I remember having a convo with 112 (in like…day 2???…) where I didn’t believe her progression of suspicion in D1, and her response was something along the lines of ‘as a wolf, I make sure my progressions make sense and are logically sound’.
So besides the fact that she never gave any reasons for her surface scum read of MR, she systematically begins to respond after voting him in the wagon and calls him as town lean. She then uses this to justify looking elsewhere as his wagon formed. When it became between Bo and MR, she was more inclined to vote Bo, more because Mr was now a townread. That progression made sense. Somewhere along the line she vanity wagon’d onto falcon tho. So…if she had kept it on Bo it would look even better for Bo, but since she didn’t, it’s a worse look for even Bo.

112 is bad. Good catch rest of town.

[VOTE: 112] aubergine
I have been sussing both MR and 112 for days lmao.

It took a massive case and a red flip for people to listen.
You could be town

I'm poisoned so we'll find out :^)

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:47 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:34 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:32 am
112 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:30 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:18 am
112 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:17 am i will now take questions
Tell me please how do you read Rondo and why
closer to neutral than anything but i've been shifting around. i had him as slightly town before i left the thread yesterday and went to sleep. part of me feels that if the town's best guess is rondo we're probably not winning this game. whether that should have any effect on how i read him idk.

to be honest i feel like my heart thinks he's town and that i'm being somewhat peer-pressured into thinking he's wolfier than he actually is to me.

i think what i called abrasiveness in him is usually a wolf trait but i don't think it's wolfy here. not sure i can really elaborate on that, but just that he's been very consistently posting with attitude in every post i've read makes me like him more somehow. like it doesn't feel like an act.

as far as solvey stuff from rondo, i don't really have anything in mind, but i've melded with some posts and insights iirc and he seems to be actually contributing better than others?

like i'm not saying he can't be wolf but i don't understand fully why he's your first choice
A very thoroughly-winded read of Rondo. Wagons were 3-3-5 Wilgy-Rondo-MR
Based on that, it is even more likely Rondo is a potential teammate.
no scotty please. I have a cop check from wiggly saying I am good. Trust in me
If probably place less interest in mafia players town reading others, but I can’t rule you out.

I don’t know Wilgy is good. Do you?

If 112 flips red we turbo Wilgy btw btw btw.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:42 am I remember having a convo with 112 (in like…day 2???…) where I didn’t believe her progression of suspicion in D1, and her response was something along the lines of ‘as a wolf, I make sure my progressions make sense and are logically sound’.
So besides the fact that she never gave any reasons for her surface scum read of MR, she systematically begins to respond after voting him in the wagon and calls him as town lean. She then uses this to justify looking elsewhere as his wagon formed. When it became between Bo and MR, she was more inclined to vote Bo, more because Mr was now a townread. That progression made sense. Somewhere along the line she vanity wagon’d onto falcon tho. So…if she had kept it on Bo it would look even better for Bo, but since she didn’t, it’s a worse look for even Bo.

112 is bad. Good catch rest of town.

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

I have been sussing both MR and 112 for days lmao.

It took a massive case and a red flip for people to listen.

112 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:13 am whoever's hedging me is maf

It's me. I forgot to not bus yesterday so I cased MR.

But you're totally right I'm maf.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 10:25 pm Are Soupkills often a mafia or 3p ability on y'alls experience?

I think I've played like 1 game with them.

Every soup ability I've played with has been from Mafia.

But maybe I got too excited

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:57 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:42 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:19 pm Interesting. I wonder if the Soupkill was more of a Soupnegate.
Oh.

Oooh.

This makes too much sense.
no because I haven't outed my skills till today

There is 1 confirmed RBer beyond that. You could've been block target.

Also if this is a soup-negate I'm honestly just gonna probably put Wilgy on the townier side for now because that clears up a lot.

What did Tutu claim? Other than the Djinn I expect that ignores the whole soupnegate if that's what's going on.

Well I'm probably fucking useless power-wise now lmao.

"5. Role/flavour claiming is allowed but it may not be in your best interests..."

Also, this fits with MR saying he didn't think there was a soup kill.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:19 pm Interesting. I wonder if the Soupkill was more of a Soupnegate.

Oh.

Oooh.

This makes too much sense.

112/Rondo/TSP should be primary resolution as I think Poison is town

Meh. I'm too tired to do Bo ISO.

Think I just saw a ghost.

Poison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 3:04 am also @Justplayingitcool is the imposter.

But I saw him in medbay.

Doing a scan.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 3:01 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:31 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:20 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:16 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:16 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:36 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:30 am
I arrived home right before the deadline. I was hundreds of posts behind, Syn and Dya were the wagon options, and the one I was on was dead. I noticed Dya was now in the game but didn't have time to figure out why they had a wagon; all I saw was that it was the one with the most last minute momentum and a lot of people I townread were on it. I didn't have time to parse the nuances of it, so I just sheeped Mac, KZA, and Rondo.
Epi is flat town too lmao.

I will take no dissent on this for now.
What do you make of those that want to keep the door of suspicion on me open?

I count Nanook, Scotty, tutuu, 112.

I think it's quite obvious I'm not mafia, but at least these four wish to continue to entertain the notion.
Scotty is 100% mech town.

I kinda townread Nanook. May need review.

Rondo was also kinda in that boat and I'm pretty sure he's just town.
You can't scumread me after yesterday kek
What'd you do yesterday? I forget tbh.
I had non partnered progression on radishes

I think you're town anyway.

I will check that for peace of mind tho

Poison, he always wants you in his games.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:35 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:23 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:29 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:33 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:17 pm @DrWilgy whats ur peek
Checked Ruri. Failed. With my claim already out there, I expect to be perpetually messed with as long as I'm w/o protection.
wtf is going on? You, me and Ender’s roles failed…

Did anyone’s ability work today besides the damned poisoner and killer?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:31 am for the record my action failed
This suggests a "Town get no actions" 1-time use ability tbh.
If this is true then Posions working means she is 3p or wolf?

Idk. That possibility was like a shot in the dark tbh tbh

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:20 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:16 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:16 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:36 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:30 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:50 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:37 pm Voters: MacDougall, KZA, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Michelle, Epignosis, Master Radishes, TonyStarkPrime, RondoDimBuckle, EnderWiggin
Michelle

For my own reference.
I'll pass on Michelle.

That leaves me with Nanook, Master Radishes, TonyStarkPrime, Rondo, and Ender.

Nanook is all grunts. Whatever.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:18 am [VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 4:00 pm
It is not. I've missed 600 posts and didn't know Dya was in the game.
This second post was two minutes before the deadline.

The move from Scotty (who is a civilian, correct?) to Dya at the eleventh hour without any context or care looks like shit.

Perhaps this has been talked about and I haven't read it, but Master Radishes came in, voted Dya without knowing Dya was in the game. That's how it reads to me right now.
I arrived home right before the deadline. I was hundreds of posts behind, Syn and Dya were the wagon options, and the one I was on was dead. I noticed Dya was now in the game but didn't have time to figure out why they had a wagon; all I saw was that it was the one with the most last minute momentum and a lot of people I townread were on it. I didn't have time to parse the nuances of it, so I just sheeped Mac, KZA, and Rondo.
Epi is flat town too lmao.

I will take no dissent on this for now.
What do you make of those that want to keep the door of suspicion on me open?

I count Nanook, Scotty, tutuu, 112.

I think it's quite obvious I'm not mafia, but at least these four wish to continue to entertain the notion.
Scotty is 100% mech town.

I kinda townread Nanook. May need review.

Rondo was also kinda in that boat and I'm pretty sure he's just town.
You can't scumread me after yesterday kek

What'd you do yesterday? I forget tbh.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:19 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:04 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 4:36 pm POE (in order of preference)
Poison.
Bo
Rondo
Epi
falcon
112
Wilgy

Towncore:
Scotty
Tutuu
Ruri
Made

Probably town
Ender
Sig
TSP
Urist

If poison is scum, I’m less inclined to believe Bo is scum, based on end of day 3. Unless MR is a better role. Poison was nonchalant about the MR/Bo wagon, though she favored bo dying more.
Uh... I cased MR and was the reason his wagon took off.

Just saying.

=P
I'd like to know why I wasn't even included smh

LMAO

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:07 am I want each person to ask why MasterRadishes voted dya at the last minute.

I still need to do VCA

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:53 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:50 am @Poison wait so are you saying you successfully used an action tonight?? Because if so you might be the only one
i successfuly protected u, idk about others

@TonyStarkPrime @EnderWiggin did you two target Ruri?

Wilgy targeted Ruri and his action failed

Rondo targeted Ruri and his action failed

I did not.

I targetted Urist to deflect to 112.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:29 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:33 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:17 pm @DrWilgy whats ur peek
Checked Ruri. Failed. With my claim already out there, I expect to be perpetually messed with as long as I'm w/o protection.
wtf is going on? You, me and Ender’s roles failed…

Did anyone’s ability work today besides the damned poisoner and killer?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:31 am for the record my action failed

This suggests a "Town get no actions" 1-time use ability tbh.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:28 am @EnderWiggin talk to me on Rondo

Okay, what about Rondo?

Poison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:26 am
Urist wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:01 pm I protected ender last night, i love picking the right target and then getting my role overridden anyway
why ender over IC/confirmed town/cop claimed

also what's your read on wilgy anyway?

IC was reflective, never a pick.

Confirmed Town Scotty was not high impact yesterday.

Wilgy is still questionable.

Urist and I have also kinda been townreading each other a chunk of the game so his decision makes sense imo.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:22 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:04 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 4:36 pm POE (in order of preference)
Poison.
Bo
Rondo
Epi
falcon
112
Wilgy

Towncore:
Scotty
Tutuu
Ruri
Made

Probably town
Ender
Sig
TSP
Urist

If poison is scum, I’m less inclined to believe Bo is scum, based on end of day 3. Unless MR is a better role. Poison was nonchalant about the MR/Bo wagon, though she favored bo dying more.
Uh... I cased MR and was the reason his wagon took off.

Just saying.

=P
Yeah, you’re probably town like I said

I'm sad I'm not towncore.

OH yeah he had that Sig/TSP thing going on.

Poison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:29 pm one of TSP-112-Rondo doesn't have the same alignment as me, one of them is guaranteed anti-town.

Rondo is town.

I actually have a blank spot on TSP and I forgot why.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:16 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:36 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:30 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:50 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:37 pm Voters: MacDougall, KZA, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Michelle, Epignosis, Master Radishes, TonyStarkPrime, RondoDimBuckle, EnderWiggin
Michelle

For my own reference.
I'll pass on Michelle.

That leaves me with Nanook, Master Radishes, TonyStarkPrime, Rondo, and Ender.

Nanook is all grunts. Whatever.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:18 am [VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 4:00 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:59 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:58 pm Just got home from a party.

Who am I voting for?
This is wolf
It is not. I've missed 600 posts and didn't know Dya was in the game.
This second post was two minutes before the deadline.

The move from Scotty (who is a civilian, correct?) to Dya at the eleventh hour without any context or care looks like shit.

Perhaps this has been talked about and I haven't read it, but Master Radishes came in, voted Dya without knowing Dya was in the game. That's how it reads to me right now.
I arrived home right before the deadline. I was hundreds of posts behind, Syn and Dya were the wagon options, and the one I was on was dead. I noticed Dya was now in the game but didn't have time to figure out why they had a wagon; all I saw was that it was the one with the most last minute momentum and a lot of people I townread were on it. I didn't have time to parse the nuances of it, so I just sheeped Mac, KZA, and Rondo.
Epi is flat town too lmao.

I will take no dissent on this for now.
What do you make of those that want to keep the door of suspicion on me open?

I count Nanook, Scotty, tutuu, 112.

I think it's quite obvious I'm not mafia, but at least these four wish to continue to entertain the notion.

Scotty is 100% mech town.

I kinda townread Nanook. May need review.

Rondo was also kinda in that boat and I'm pretty sure he's just town.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:34 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:34 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:10 pm Not fully sure how to feel tbh...reasons to like but also not fully convinced?
Dkkoba
Poison
DrWilgy

No idea, just...need to see more
Falcon
112

Not a fan
Urist
Ender

This is just a hit
Made

I feel like I have decently strong reasons to townread everyone else.
This is actually a solid rule-of-3 setup.

Made/Ender/Urist town.

Falcon/112/Poison/DrWilgy > AT LEAST ONE SCUM.
what about the ones not mentioned?

Some scum in there.

My point was to point out how the ones mentioned very likely had a scum in them.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:31 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:06 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 4:46 pm if epi is mafia i think mafia has too much KP

odd-night poisoner + a day vig that can instantly shoot the revealed IC

just feels a bit too much. but i dunno, it is a 24 player game. hmmm

nah nvm, take that back. i can see epi being mafia
Epi probably isn't mafia tbh tbh.
I want to know why he is still alive after 3 nights when he has shown he can vig people, he might have a second shot and they havent killed him yet. He's 'confirmed town' from mafia pov, killing a vig and a confirmed town is a win. I dont know maybe its just tinfoil

One-shot Dayvig is Syndicate standard.

No one here but newbies are afraid of a second shot.

Like if 112 flips red here, I want town to promise to turbo DrWilgy tomorrow.

I do not feel scum comes in to detract from my mech on Wilgy if it was t/t

I'll be back later with 112 ISO + EOD reads.

Gonna play vidja games now.

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