The Syndicate

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 2:10 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:51 pm When does the next Job go into sign ups? - Seems inefficient to not have one up yet.
I think we are having an issue of lack of hosts lately, particularly for Jobs. They were okay with me leaving my game over a month in sign ups because there was no one else wanting to use the slot.

So if any of you wants to host a big game, now is a great time because the queue is short.

I'm confused as to how the queue works, I'm ready to host any of my games lol.

When does the next Job go into sign ups? - Seems inefficient to not have one up yet.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:14 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:03 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:00 pm That was surprisingly anticlimatic. 3 out of 4 Mafia died to night kill choices.
Only Nanook was actually scum read and caught.
In fairness, it was also because they were heavily scum-read in a role madness game, no bueno.
Watches don't count

Oh right... Watcher is the other way, lol. Yeah, I think we can just summarise this game by saying Role Madness = Swingy.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:10 pm it's definitely wolf indic for nanook and not wolf indic for tsp but we weren't expecting running into a watch on dizzy which sorta throws the entire thing off

Yeah, that's the other thing that's hard to overlook... Sabie was outed D2, but often the D1 counter wagon to a CFD doesn't get killed D2.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:05 pm Wasn't it you NAA who said Mafia should just stick together and vote with their numbers?
And 3 mafia did that day 1 and 2 got scum read hard for it.

Yes, I said that. I think every play is situationally dependent.

I mean, they were scum-read for it, but it's something they would be likely to do as town, so

... People have scum reads that have no bearing on alignment sometimes and they can be right for the wrong reasons. I'm not sure what the % mafia flips are on a M->T CFD... So I can't really comment on that (Mac suggested it's high, but I'm not sure).

Looking at the results of this game isn't indicative of a trend.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:00 pm That was surprisingly anticlimatic. 3 out of 4 Mafia died to night kill choices.
Only Nanook was actually scum read and caught.

In fairness, it was also because they were heavily scum-read in a role madness game, no bueno.

Guillo played really well this game, possibly the best town performance IMO.

Marmot best PR.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 5:54 pm what, and i cannot stress this enough, the fuck

LOL

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:45 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:42 pm Tbh @falcon45ca I think people who sheeped your read, and don't town read you are far more sus.
Marmot comes to mind.

Who else do you feel is sheeping me while not TR me?

Marmot could easily be hiding behind "ah, he has pocketed me in the past" to get a mechanically favorable kill for mafia today.

Idk, if Marmot is mafia I think we just concede because there are so many people above him in the PoE and people voting don't care about being right because they'll just blame the loss on the PoE. You can see it every other post if not more Guillotine is deflecting blame for a loss (with 1/2 of the mafia team dead... Yes)

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:48 pm Also, why does NAA have me as his next lynch w/ a Nook red flip, and then chose to investigate Sig instead?

Honestly, I don't remember. I just went into the night thinking I would disguise as red engineer and kill Sig, so I wanted to check his info today.

Also, this is probably forgotten (and for good reason - I can't prove this) but I literally forgot that Sabie was the Blue Engineer.

Tbh @falcon45ca I think people who sheeped your read, and don't town read you are far more sus.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:36 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:35 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:33 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:31 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:30 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:29 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:22 pm

CFD on Sean for poorly stated reasons w/ a Wolf CW isn't scummy in your eyes?

Again, if you were actually town, I don't know how you can't acknowledge that.

Also, I can't recall how many times I've heard wolves cry "but I wasn't scummy!" before they die.
Yeah, I'm just gaslighting because there's 0 way I can convince you guys that I'm town at this stage.
Well, if you are town, then help us w/ legacy reads.

How do you feel about the players on your wagon and how they joined?
Give me a % chance on my legacy reads being used, and % chance of them being better than anyone else's... And I'll consider it.
How exactly am I supposed to do that? I'm sure you're aware that's beyond my abilities.

Are you giving me an impossible task in order to get you to help town? Cu that's towny...
My legacy is falcon!town, this is NOT a Thunderdome
May I ask why you have me as Town?

Because your reaction to my TMI was towny, I think a lot of people acknowledged that which is why they all piled on.

It wasn't TMI, I checked Syn today (day check) got blue medic. I disguised last night.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:33 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:31 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:30 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:29 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:22 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:45 pm I haven't done a single scummy thing this game, therefore there is no case to be made.
CFD on Sean for poorly stated reasons w/ a Wolf CW isn't scummy in your eyes?

Again, if you were actually town, I don't know how you can't acknowledge that.

Also, I can't recall how many times I've heard wolves cry "but I wasn't scummy!" before they die.
Yeah, I'm just gaslighting because there's 0 way I can convince you guys that I'm town at this stage.
Well, if you are town, then help us w/ legacy reads.

How do you feel about the players on your wagon and how they joined?
Give me a % chance on my legacy reads being used, and % chance of them being better than anyone else's... And I'll consider it.
How exactly am I supposed to do that? I'm sure you're aware that's beyond my abilities.

Are you giving me an impossible task in order to get you to help town? Cu that's towny...

My legacy is falcon!town, this is NOT a Thunderdome

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:30 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:29 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:22 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:45 pm I haven't done a single scummy thing this game, therefore there is no case to be made.
CFD on Sean for poorly stated reasons w/ a Wolf CW isn't scummy in your eyes?

Again, if you were actually town, I don't know how you can't acknowledge that.

Also, I can't recall how many times I've heard wolves cry "but I wasn't scummy!" before they die.
Yeah, I'm just gaslighting because there's 0 way I can convince you guys that I'm town at this stage.
Well, if you are town, then help us w/ legacy reads.

How do you feel about the players on your wagon and how they joined?

Give me a % chance on my legacy reads being used, and % chance of them being better than anyone else's... And I'll consider it.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:56 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:44 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:43 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:39 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:38 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:23 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 12:44 pm There is more evidence to point to NAA scum than town atm. Yes I want the game to be auto, but it seems that means we chop NAA today.
Ok let's not be reasonable by seeing how we can use the extra town KP

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:26 pm Let's make a bad read, and mechanically bad play and then blame the L on someone else seems par for the course with some people on wagon.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:35 pm If you're mafia, then congrats on winning. Town gonna run down this PoE and reject any additional kills they could use.
@LinearPoint see this chain of posts?
This is what excessive AtE looks like.
That isn't AtE. AtE would be saying you guys ruined my NYE, implying real life ramifications.

Saying someone is wrong isn't in the same realm.
It’s AtE because you are trying to emotionally blackmail Marmot into unvoting you.

If you have KP, you should have used it to clear the PoE but you have conveniently forgot to submit actions.
Nah, that's towny.

And no, me telling Marmot that he's wrong isn't AtE. Me saying that he's wrong presumably due to past experience isn't AtE.
Nah, a player like you who is very tactical and meticulous about the way you troll mafia games just dont forget about submitting actions. You just dont, get out of here with that bullshit.

Nothing you say will change my mind that you are not employing scum tactics to get out of the PoE you got yourself in. You cannot be trusted with anything you say that you will do.

Not gonna lie, i had fell in your pocket, i even believed there was a purpose to your trolling but i went back to read EoD1 and remembered the anger that i felt when i saw Seanzie’s flip and that it was thanks to you who opened that possibility for Sabie to get saved and Im out of your pocket again. What the fuck was i thinking? Right?

Not trolling.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:22 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:45 pm I haven't done a single scummy thing this game, therefore there is no case to be made.
CFD on Sean for poorly stated reasons w/ a Wolf CW isn't scummy in your eyes?

Again, if you were actually town, I don't know how you can't acknowledge that.

Also, I can't recall how many times I've heard wolves cry "but I wasn't scummy!" before they die.

Yeah, I'm just gaslighting because there's 0 way I can convince you guys that I'm town at this stage.

Look for other players who might be scummy.

@Marmot I know you can find me.

If anything I'm appealing to Marmot's intellect to overcome the emotion that drives him to think I'm trying to pocket him.

I haven't done a single scummy thing this game, therefore there is no case to be made.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:44 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:40 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:39 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:36 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:35 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 12:44 pm There is more evidence to point to NAA scum than town atm. Yes I want the game to be auto, but it seems that means we chop NAA today.
Besides what I’ve pointed out, what’s the evidence you have that points out to NAA being scum?
You didn't point out anything
Don’t blame for not seeing it and visit an eye doctor as sn as possible.
Just what I thought, you have no case.
It’s called ISO or you go to topic view, click on replies and then click on my posts to isolate them.

You are welcome

I can't refute something that doesn't exist.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:43 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:39 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:38 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:23 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 12:44 pm There is more evidence to point to NAA scum than town atm. Yes I want the game to be auto, but it seems that means we chop NAA today.
Ok let's not be reasonable by seeing how we can use the extra town KP

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:26 pm Let's make a bad read, and mechanically bad play and then blame the L on someone else seems par for the course with some people on wagon.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:35 pm If you're mafia, then congrats on winning. Town gonna run down this PoE and reject any additional kills they could use.
@LinearPoint see this chain of posts?
This is what excessive AtE looks like.
That isn't AtE. AtE would be saying you guys ruined my NYE, implying real life ramifications.

Saying someone is wrong isn't in the same realm.
It’s AtE because you are trying to emotionally blackmail Marmot into unvoting you.

If you have KP, you should have used it to clear the PoE but you have conveniently forgot to submit actions.

Nah, that's towny.

And no, me telling Marmot that he's wrong isn't AtE. Me saying that he's wrong presumably due to past experience isn't AtE.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:39 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:36 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:35 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 12:44 pm There is more evidence to point to NAA scum than town atm. Yes I want the game to be auto, but it seems that means we chop NAA today.
Besides what I’ve pointed out, what’s the evidence you have that points out to NAA being scum?
You didn't point out anything
Don’t blame for not seeing it and visit an eye doctor as sn as possible.

Just what I thought, you have no case.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:38 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:23 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 12:44 pm There is more evidence to point to NAA scum than town atm. Yes I want the game to be auto, but it seems that means we chop NAA today.
Ok let's not be reasonable by seeing how we can use the extra town KP

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:26 pm Let's make a bad read, and mechanically bad play and then blame the L on someone else seems par for the course with some people on wagon.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:35 pm If you're mafia, then congrats on winning. Town gonna run down this PoE and reject any additional kills they could use.
@LinearPoint see this chain of posts?
This is what excessive AtE looks like.

That isn't AtE. AtE would be saying you guys ruined my NYE, implying real life ramifications.

Saying someone is wrong isn't in the same realm.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:35 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 12:44 pm There is more evidence to point to NAA scum than town atm. Yes I want the game to be auto, but it seems that means we chop NAA today.
Besides what I’ve pointed out, what’s the evidence you have that points out to NAA being scum?

You didn't point out anything

If you're mafia, then congrats on winning. Town gonna run down this PoE and reject any additional kills they could use.

@Marmot I don't know if you're burying your head in the sand because you don't want to fall in my pocket again, but you should really take some time to think about it, doing your best to reject the bias. I'm not playing you.

Let's make a bad read, and mechanically bad play and then blame the L on someone else

seems par for the course with some people on wagon.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 12:44 pm There is more evidence to point to NAA scum than town atm. Yes I want the game to be auto, but it seems that means we chop NAA today.

Ok let's not be reasonable by seeing how we can use the extra town KP

Like, if we can kill Sig, TSP, Guillo, DrWilgy, Linearpoint is there any situation where we don't win? (Even if you think I'm mafia)

Roleblockers removing redirects from the game just gives town too much control over what happens, anyone who deviates is instantly chopped

It's not Auto, but forcing the vigilantes to shoot concensus targets is definitely the strategy to run here, you never kill them. So if I'm in your PoE, you kill me at 5 (TSP can die after he snipes a target)

Can't we just like turn this game into auto? I didn't check exactly... So I'm going to workshop it now.

Roleblockers block Pyros
Medic save on watcher
Watcher watches medic
Medic save on Spy

Spy shoots concensus town pick

12 players, that gives us 2 town kills per day until mafia break the cycle (which should be obvious via actions).

If we count 1 sniper shot, that gives town 5 KP in the next 2 days bringing us to final 5 where if we missed on everything, we would be in LyLo.

I'll kill Sig tonight if you don't kill me.

Gg fam, I take my exit here.

It's best if y'all don't kill me.

But also, like. I'm not going to put up a big fight. Peach and love. Don't revenge kill.falxon, this isn't a Thunderdome.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 3:56 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 3:50 am so i mean arbitrarily don't give wolves double kp but idk
I dont believe he is vig. Who forgets to kill as a vig? If i randed vig i would have killed two players already to clear the PoE.

So you are telling me he is town and sees how Seanzie went down thanks to his antics and instead of making ammends he what? Forgets to kill? Not even Mac whom he suspected to be a wolf between Seanzie/Mac, which is the whole reason he pushed Seanzie in the first place?

Nah my friend.

"I don't believe he is vig"

*Looks at roles list*

There's nothing I could be other than vig.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 3:54 am i do not care if you think it will save you because I'm telling you it certainly can't hurt

You don't know that. You can't guarantee that.

The only thing that can save me now is Marmot's kind heart. And New Year enthusiasm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 3:51 am NAA pls can i have a real actions list

Tbh, probably won't save me.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 3:44 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 3:03 am @DrWilgy yw for the save bruh, all it took was a bit of faked TMI
Mph mphfh fh

You know I'm town yeah?

You there? Help me out... We played video mafia together my friend, you know me...

@Marmot

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 12:52 am Oh NAA is now the leading wagon.

I'll join.

[VOTE: NAA] aubergine

I don't know what you're doing, but it's 2022 and I think I need to find a proper word to describe it... imma call it

Thame Growing

@Marmot BB let me know how to pocket you this game, I know in your heart of hearts you know I'm town.

Evidence: none

Let's be friends, ask me what you want to know and I will do my best to not clarify, but also get you on my side.

@DrWilgy yw for the save bruh, all it took was a bit of faked TMI

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 31, 2021 9:53 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Dec 31, 2021 9:21 pm wait NAA is a cop it's not a slip
Why doesn't he just say that then?

It would expose me about my "unsubmited" actions.

I mean, I guess they can?

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