The Syndicate

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:24 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:22 am But yeah, I totally wasn't expecting Tommy to die, so any Tommy associative from yesterday are completely distorted by the time of death.

Kind of ruins 'let's have a robust discussion' but a wolf is a wolf.

How's your night going?

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:21 am Okay here's my analysis of the Vivax ISO in broader strokes:

Spoiler: show

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:49 am This game vibes very differently from other experiences so far. Almost higher pitch, but maybe it's just the different site.
If you've got tips on how to compact the posts, I'll gladly take them.
Bit fried right now, but am more or less caught up on a first read and still far from having any idea how to approach the game.

Find the roster fairly hard to read, would probably throw a townread on kuti in for starters.
MacDougall quite the apparition, as usual. I'll keep him at a cautious null instead of voting him I think. Though he has already caused a good cleave in the thread based on his alignment, so on the townier side. Will decide later if I sheep.
Dyslexicon went into subduction after game start and someone instacalled them mafia.

After reviewing my first reaction upon checking in briefly, I won't really go Flanders but vibes from Dr.Wilgy felt alright at first glance.

This post is controlled and certified for my mafia meta TM

Townread on Sabi, slight townreads on Mac/Dr Wilgy, observation that people called Dizzy wolf.

This is a very "Observation instead of participation" style post, which vibes as wolf to me.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 6:33 am Thanks a lot. ISOs accessible like back on my homesite then.

On a reread, Seanzie and Achro stick out to me.
Achro more in their own category compared to lucy-kuti exchanges. Self-conscious early posts.
The vote on Lucy by Achro after being pinged my Mac reads really like a nervous snap reaction. Got a caveat for intentionality here, it's an elegant way to force a null read on it.
Feels like town-town though. Both sides seem to attempt an entrapment of the other.

At the bottom of P3 I spot this which gives me somewhat wolfy vibes. Mostly cause of the wolfreads which come across as a hasty mini-PoE, and cause I'm secretly hoping that the T-T interpretation is TMI and aligns with mine.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:35 pm Neat, Mac is town

Achro town

Lucy W

Sabi W

Sabi I am likely to flippy floppy on.

Seanzie stuck out cause he gave me the impression overall of being a head periodically emerging from the ground to drop off the spiciest and most impetuous take of the moment with little regard for its validity. I don't know how I should classify that strategy yet.
Tommy feeling a bit overwhelmed? I'd guess, not really a lot of oomph in the posts but I suppose that could be townie.

Again a very "Observational" style post.

Being generous I'll call that tonal style for now and assume it's NAI. Flip on Dr Wilgy with little actual care for his previous read.

Already noted the soft townread of Tommy.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:12 am Lucy, DrWilgie, Porscha currently where I'd look at the most for mafia. Preference for DrWilgie.

Wilgie's townread on Mac-Achro felt a bit like TMI snap reaction to seeing vote on Lucy and the later explanation that they were going to do it but didn't because achro did it first...is feh.
Lucy cause the tone seems a bit electrified, very keen on being generally helpful, and some association bias from reading Wilgie's reaction.
Porscha cause of post saying they didn't really have an opinion on Sean. Acceptable, but also comes across as lazy to me and embracing the convenience of early days to withhold information as mafia is legitimate. Not going to charge here for now.
Nook, Rondo worth a look into. Openwolfy perhaps?

Don't know why but Rondo makes me think of a floodgate struggling to keep itself shut. But I tend to imagine things sometimes.

Sean on a null with emphasis. Some posts would impress me if wolf. I know I said it already but I'll say it again after an ISO.

The reasoning for the wolfreads is shallow as hell, but presented as if it should be good. Then adding the other two with a vague statement at the end.

But then this:

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:32 am You found the same post by Wilgie as scum but just went on a wild safari, sort of.
I don't know what that makes you yet, but I can assume you'd vote Wilgie at some point hopefully.

I had a feeling I shouldn't carelessly slap an alignment on you.

Suggests he should be townleaning Rondo?

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:50 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:39 am Nice to see you again, @Vivax

Hey there, feeling's mutual. So far in the two games we played together you were one of the rare types I would only hesitantly want to call mafia. Was a nice surprise to see you in the playerlist.
Leaning town here cause you manage to confidently use a fraction of your possible effort while conversing.

Maybe you can help me out with the Rondo, Nook slots and chime in on the current hot potato named DrWilgy making its rounds (which would be my vote if I laid it down currently).

Sudden flat townread on Dizzy.

I will note at this point:
Town!Dizzy has a tendency to be pocketed most easily by townreading them confidently. (Yes, absolutely something you can level at me, feel free.)

Vivax knows Dizzy.

I'm levelling that accusation at Vivax.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:59 am I'm conflicted whether I should indulge Dougall in voting him while thinking he's town. No hammers anyway, so why bother. But maybe a halo will pop out above his head after a certain amount.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:51 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:50 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:39 am Nice to see you again, @Vivax

Hey there, feeling's mutual. So far in the two games we played together you were one of the rare types I would only hesitantly want to call mafia. Was a nice surprise to see you in the playerlist.
Leaning town here cause you manage to confidently use a fraction of your possible effort while conversing.

Maybe you can help me out with the Rondo, Nook slots and chime in on the current hot potato named DrWilgy making its rounds (which would be my vote if I laid it down currently).

Why not lay down your vote already?

Because I'm a tad tired and burnt out and posting + voting around here makes me feel like I should hold the game to a higher standard, it's taking me a longer time to decide how to wrap up a post.
For no particularly discernible reason except maybe an abundance of interesting players. Or the old-school design of the site having something like a special touch.
I'm posting closer to my mafia meta for that reason. Self conscious something something.

Here is about the point I start seeing fur myself.

This is Vivax being very aware of how close they are to standard wolf!Meta.

That's actually not a good look, in my experience, as often wolves are much more spacially aware of being close to their usual wolf habits without other people bringing it up.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:05 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:02 am Lowkey prepared to lock town wilgy

Are you TMIing me town cause I scumread them?

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:14 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:08 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:05 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:02 am Lowkey prepared to lock town wilgy

Are you TMIing me town cause I scumread them?

What

Sorry. I just have the funny experience that I either nail reads at once or do the exact opposite and wolf side, until I decide to invert my view of the game after pestering towns to the point you could cook an egg on their head.
I thought maybe you were aware of that and since I was scumreading Wilgy you were pre-emptively inverting my read for that and the jab was directed at me. Seems just like an egocentrism issue on my part though.

Haven't looked at axe and flanders too intensely, but it looked like they were overwhelmingly paying attention to each other last I checked iirc. Very informative.

This is a really WEIRD interaction. I honestly don't have an alignment to slap on it.

And yes I'm aware, "weird" is a way to call something wolfy. But tbh I don't think this is specifically wolfy. Or towny. I think this is Vivax Indicative, nothing else.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:38 am Hey Kuti!
You can feel alarmed by the TR on you if you wish. I don't see a point in changing it in this gamestate.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:31 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:32 am You found the same post by Wilgie as scum but just went on a wild safari, sort of.
I don't know what that makes you yet, but I can assume you'd vote Wilgie at some point hopefully.

I had a feeling I shouldn't carelessly slap an alignment on you.

@Vivax can you explain this

Based on this post Rondo should have slapped a vote on Wilgy but decided to do a bit of stampeding elsewhere instead.
I couldn't help but imagine a chainspew of Lucy<-Wilgy<-Rondo at that point in the game.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 11:03 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:35 pm Neat, Mac is town

Achro town

Lucy W

Sabi W

Sabi I am likely to flippy floppy on.

so you are wolf?

I don't have a solid thought on this post. It's an explanation.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:49 am

Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:40 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:38 am Hey Kuti!
You can feel alarmed by the TR on you if you wish. I don't see a point in changing it in this gamestate.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:31 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:32 am You found the same post by Wilgie as scum but just went on a wild safari, sort of.
I don't know what that makes you yet, but I can assume you'd vote Wilgie at some point hopefully.

I had a feeling I shouldn't carelessly slap an alignment on you.

@Vivax can you explain this

Based on this post Rondo should have slapped a vote on Wilgy but decided to do a bit of stampeding elsewhere instead.
I couldn't help but imagine a chainspew of Lucy<-Wilgy<-Rondo at that point in the game.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 11:03 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:35 pm Neat, Mac is town

Achro town

Lucy W

Sabi W

Sabi I am likely to flippy floppy on.

so you are wolf?

Why would Rondo do that?

Getting triggered by obviwolf post from teammate maybe? Then proceed to be an elephant in a China store to do a dance for MacDougall and you.
Or if he's wolf independently from Doc, leave behind a bad trace to them?
He's probably a better recipient for that question. I can just show you the imaginary extensions of my guesses.

Being generous, this is the kind of post that makes me doubt my scumread because it's such a convoluted tunnel to go down as scum.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:55 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:50 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:22 am So I have wolfreads on Achro, Axe, Flanders, Tommy, Vivax.

How many wolves are in this game?

Great reads but Vivax isn't mafia they are just an awkward human lol.

I don't see why you're treating the two as mutually exclusive.
And my mood today is no indicator for a future one. Every time I log back on, the mental wheel is spun anew.

Note: Here I'm already sussing Tommy!

I'm just calling this AI because the levels of Wifom I can get to here.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:02 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:56 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:55 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:50 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:22 am So I have wolfreads on Achro, Axe, Flanders, Tommy, Vivax.

How many wolves are in this game?

Great reads but Vivax isn't mafia they are just an awkward human lol.

I don't see why you're treating the two as mutually exclusive.
And my mood today is no indicator for a future one. Every time I log back on, the mental wheel is spun anew.

Because I am pretty sure he's just scumreading you cuz ur weird and he needs to know that's NAI for you lol.

And beyond that I just think you're town.

Imagine carrying so much weirdness around but not on the outside in serious contexts. Of course I let it flow freely in a virtual space, it's a playful side of the same coin wherein the other is a very composed appearance.
I'm not sure if I should believe you are scumreading Achro or if it's just bait, but in the latter case it's probably expired.

Still NAI.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:18 am

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:26 am Rondo and Seanzie on Mac eh. That looks fun

Vote Mac

Don't have history on this.

More weird posts, which I'll ignore for now.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:45 am

Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:41 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:38 am

Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:29 am FWIW I don't feel good about Porscha/Tommy being a team just based off the almost mocking way Porscha asked Tommy for their FM experience after Tommy was like 'oh Rondo is a player'

can you pull quotes

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:07 am

Tommy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 11:30 pm Ohhh rondo is a player

how much FM have you played

I just found something so sincere in this question that my mind immediately went 'not aligned' tbh

Seems like a neutral question to me.
With a concealed payload of rondo pocketing.

I have thoughts.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:46 am Wolves don't need to pocket other wolves is a conspiracy theory tbh
But if Porscha W will be an interesting controversial angle to check for spew.

Meh, this is kinda bad. But also like, nothing.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:58 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:49 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:46 am Wolves don't need to pocket other wolves is a conspiracy theory tbh
But if Porscha W will be an interesting controversial angle to check for spew.

[VOTE: Vivax ] aubergine

Disagreeing is one thing, wolfreading me for valid logic another.
Ironically these are the most effective posts to avoid a backlash
from a player who was propagated to be a combatant

This is another "What" post.

I've decided I don't care to finish this. I just want to vote Achro and walk away.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:18 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:14 am

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:12 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:03 am

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 1:56 am
You have built a mountain about how myself and vivax were giving Tommy a pass but you didn't so much as say their name, ask a question, or ask anyone else to give a single thought about them which is in violent contrast with everyone else in your poe.

I like my vote a lot now tbh

Also kinda weirdchamp for you to compare my accusations and my actions since I barely mentioned them but you and Vivax actively made posts to try and undercut attempts to push the wagon.

For one Tommy only had one vote on them it wouldn't have been much of a pile on.

For two, yeah I am saying your interactions are worse. Vivax and I showed clear intent. We put ourselves out there and didn't want the day to devolve into just piling on Tommy. If anything given your nature of not liking to pile on you should have been there with us. I made it very clear that I wanted robust discussion and back and forth on many slots not just Tommy. You apparently had no concerns at any point to actually give voice to not piling on.

Afraid to stick up for someone you knew was wolf, I suspect. I didn't have the benefit of knowing Tommy's alignment so I was playing it as if he was rand wolf. I even said at one point if he is wolf I thought my actions to show restraint were pro town due to the benefits. I had a very nuance, detailed, and clear goal in what I was doing. I feel not an ounce of shame nor do I think I harmed town in the least.

I don't think your solving hits the mark and your day one iso is a pile of nothing tbh.

Go read my champs game and you'll see I have no fear of defending a low hanging partner.

Do not ascribe my actions to "Fear", please.

Hesitant, I will say then. I will try not to ascribe emotions to you.

As it relates to games, every one is different. Maybe you simply didn't have the appetite to deal with such a partner this game. From my view atm you have been pushing a lot of town slots and only nominally mentioned Tommy. Yeah he was nothing but you never once tried to engage.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:23 pm @NotAnAxehole few questions.

Which of Vivax and Achro do you think is more likely mafia?

What percentage chance of them flipping mafia do you have?

Who do you think will be easier to flip?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:20 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:19 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:14 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:12 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:08 pm With the disclaimer that I haven't read 99% of posts in the thread, this is my list of optimal chops in no particular order (anyone off the list isn't viable for today):

Enderwiggin
Porscha
Achromatic
Vivax
DrWilgy

Each have pros and cons, and variable amounts of information potential.

As much as I like spicy chops. The bolded I just can't see myself supporting ... or occurring. Vivax comes off weird when you are kinda just playing detached but if you look closely he has moments of extremely deep solving mindset. Achro is just level 1 too prominent lol.

Achromatic is definitely the most fun chop.

@MacDougall FWIW I mostly agree with you on both of them, but I think there are reasons to go there that the other 3 don't have.

I tried to kinda do that with achro before and it wasn't fun lol.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:14 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:12 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:08 pm With the disclaimer that I haven't read 99% of posts in the thread, this is my list of optimal chops in no particular order (anyone off the list isn't viable for today):

Enderwiggin
Porscha
Achromatic
Vivax
DrWilgy

Each have pros and cons, and variable amounts of information potential.

As much as I like spicy chops. The bolded I just can't see myself supporting ... or occurring. Vivax comes off weird when you are kinda just playing detached but if you look closely he has moments of extremely deep solving mindset. Achro is just level 1 too prominent lol.

Achromatic is definitely the most fun chop.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:16 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:14 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:12 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:08 pm With the disclaimer that I haven't read 99% of posts in the thread, this is my list of optimal chops in no particular order (anyone off the list isn't viable for today):

Enderwiggin
Porscha
Achromatic
Vivax
DrWilgy

Each have pros and cons, and variable amounts of information potential.

As much as I like spicy chops. The bolded I just can't see myself supporting ... or occurring. Vivax comes off weird when you are kinda just playing detached but if you look closely he has moments of extremely deep solving mindset. Achro is just level 1 too prominent lol.

Achromatic is definitely the most fun chop.

We are natural rivals. Top poster and no poster. It is understandable why you lust for my blood.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:13 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:11 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:10 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:08 pm With the disclaimer that I haven't read 99% of posts in the thread, this is my list of optimal chops in no particular order (anyone off the list isn't viable for today):

Enderwiggin
Porscha
Achromatic
Vivax
DrWilgy

Each have pros and cons, and variable amounts of information potential.

why not you?

This is a Mickey Mouse question.

humor me

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:12 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:08 pm With the disclaimer that I haven't read 99% of posts in the thread, this is my list of optimal chops in no particular order (anyone off the list isn't viable for today):

Enderwiggin
Porscha
Achromatic
Vivax
DrWilgy

Each have pros and cons, and variable amounts of information potential.

As much as I like spicy chops. The bolded I just can't see myself supporting ... or occurring. Vivax comes off weird when you are kinda just playing detached but if you look closely he has moments of extremely deep solving mindset. Achro is just level 1 too prominent lol.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:10 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:08 pm With the disclaimer that I haven't read 99% of posts in the thread, this is my list of optimal chops in no particular order (anyone off the list isn't viable for today):

Enderwiggin
Porscha
Achromatic
Vivax
DrWilgy

Each have pros and cons, and variable amounts of information potential.

why not you?

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:04 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:02 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:00 pm Just to be clear this isnt an OMOGUS vote. I genuinely think someone shouldnt be this unhappy in this thread state. I think Sabi is a hit. I could be wrong and I will sheep Mac if he tells me to move

I'M MAD BECAUSE IT'S D2 AND IT FEELS LIKE D1 BECAUSE I'M LOST AND CONFUSED.

I THINK IT'S SEAN, THEN IT'S NOT.

I THINK IT'S WILGZ, THEN IT'S NOT.

I THINK IT'S PORSCHA THEN IT'S NOT.

I'M JUST FRUSTRATED AT MY SELF FOR NOT HAVING GOOD READS RIGHT NKW.

15% chance of hitting scum right now. It's pretty brutal and poking people to give them a chance to look good is part of the process. Your seanzie point was good and made me re evaluate.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:57 pm Don't call me a child and fucking scroll the thread for answers.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:41 pm Pop quiz

Who has posted more content today dizzy or porscha

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:40 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:38 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:18 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:16 pm Like that is the opposite of optimal play

lock clears a person, if they are scum then lock clear scum, if they are town then they'll never be watched or protected again meaning no harm in killing them without worrying about watchers/docs

this is only under the assumption there is for sure a rb'er in game? what info makes you think that

very good question by Porcha.

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:38 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:18 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:16 pm Like that is the opposite of optimal play

lock clears a person, if they are scum then lock clear scum, if they are town then they'll never be watched or protected again meaning no harm in killing them without worrying about watchers/docs

this is only under the assumption there is for sure a rb'er in game? what info makes you think that

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 4:20 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 4:19 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 4:10 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 4:07 pm axe is a trust me bro read, weve played a good deal and ive seen him talk mafia quite a bit.

it's perhaps not as strong a read as i let on at times, but i find it useful to direct peoples attention away from him cause he can kinda end up being a default push pretty often given his utter disregard for being townread

What can I say, not getting killed is the optimal strategy, being townread is a bad objective in a game like mafia.

You're doing a good job at it currently
There's honesty in your posts

this is one of the funniest things ive ever read in a mafia game

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 4:13 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 4:09 pm I can accept trust me bro reads easily enough, I have one myself after all and it isn't as if I have a reason to suspect as w/w you would shield him using that tactic so I can accept that.

One last thing. Earlier you mentioned you were taking into account differences because I am new here. If you removed that filter and thought of me without taking that into account what would be your thoughts on my game thus far?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 3:18 pm Your reads being largely unaligned with mine suggests you're either more likely to be mafia or my reads are bad--if my townreads start flipping red I'll probably slot you into a towncore spot, at least aorn, but as it stands it's somewhat difficult to townread you while i think a lot of your reads are meh

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 4:07 pm axe is a trust me bro read, weve played a good deal and ive seen him talk mafia quite a bit.

it's perhaps not as strong a read as i let on at times, but i find it useful to direct peoples attention away from him cause he can kinda end up being a default push pretty often given his utter disregard for being townread

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 4:00 pm im generally wary of "mafia would be demotivated here" reads

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:34 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:31 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:29 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:13 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:07 am @NotAnAxehole why?

Why not?

I don't have a scumread on her. Why do you?

I don't

so why would we chop her?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:29 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:13 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:07 am @NotAnAxehole why?

Why not?

I don't have a scumread on her. Why do you?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:07 am @NotAnAxehole why?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 10:25 pm

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 10:18 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 10:14 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:52 pm @lucy where are you on Achromatic?

I don't them to get lynched, I would look at who distanced themselves from Tommy for mafia imo

Agreed. Players who made no mention / basically pretended Tommy didn't exist.
I'm new in this site and not sure of the angleshooty line, so I'm gonna bottle my next thought. Should be obvious tho

such as?

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 10:18 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 10:14 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:52 pm @lucy where are you on Achromatic?

I don't them to get lynched, I would look at who distanced themselves from Tommy for mafia imo

Agreed. Players who made no mention / basically pretended Tommy didn't exist.
I'm new in this site and not sure of the angleshooty line, so I'm gonna bottle my next thought. Should be obvious tho

Vivax wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 10:17 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 10:09 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:56 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:38 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:11 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:06 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:45 pm

I mentioned it during D1 about how they couldn't be partnered because Vivax repeatedly kept calling Tommy Matt over and over (and correcting himself).

It didn't feel like someone would do if they were in mafia chat with them.

I'll sheep it

Waiting for @EnderWiggin

I looked back over it but it happened twice in a shortish period and in all honesty looked like brain mush.

Which can happen in w/w interactions.

I wouldn't clear Vivax off it myself.

Correct about the mush part at the time. Brain might be mush again soon cause I'm pushing myself a bit lately.
I mentioned this but Tommy is a name that I somehow had difficulty with when it came to parsing. Or some weird in-brain similarity with matt.
Might be a name that I gave to a bat I regularly saw once. Or Tobi? Idk I was 8.
In my twenties a huge bat flew into my apartment once while I was gaming. I was quite terrified. Weird memories to mention in this context tbh, but I'm glad to have them.

VIVAX ACCEPT MY TOWNREAD OF YOU. STOP DENYING IT. YOU ARE GOIJG TO TAKE IT AND ACCEPT IT.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:59 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:58 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:49 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:47 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:44 pm It is a bit hard to tell cause he's doing a lot of his I'm an NPC shtick

Telling people their reads on certain individuals aren't as good as they think they are is my shtick.

I have some thoughts on the game, but I will refrain in case I get accused of hate speech again.

Share with the class.

I was just making an excuse to say nothing useful.

You can just admit scum's wim has died due to a frozen solid team mate and we can move onto the next game it's totally understandable.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:49 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:47 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:44 pm It is a bit hard to tell cause he's doing a lot of his I'm an NPC shtick

Telling people their reads on certain individuals aren't as good as they think they are is my shtick.

I have some thoughts on the game, but I will refrain in case I get accused of hate speech again.

Share with the class.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:44 pm It is a bit hard to tell cause he's doing a lot of his I'm an NPC shtick

Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:25 pm Heya Mac quick question. How polarized is dizzy from your experience?

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:31 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:29 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:10 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:07 am I'm calling him lock town to troll him


However he probably is town from the idk dozen or so posts of his that I've read

I'm not saying I disagree, I'm just saying that IF IT WERE UP TO ME, I would vote Porscha over Tommy, but Mac is the billboard town player, so I have to sheep what he wants.

Wow this makes me look bad.

That is all for now.

[VOTE: NotAnAxehole] aubergine

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:10 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:07 am I'm calling him lock town to troll him


However he probably is town from the idk dozen or so posts of his that I've read

I'm not saying I disagree, I'm just saying that IF IT WERE UP TO ME, I would vote Porscha over Tommy, but Mac is the billboard town player, so I have to sheep what he wants.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 6:25 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 6:08 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 6:04 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:53 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:49 pm Tommy*, not matt

Nooks ISO also rather wolfy.

So Nook, Lucy, Porscha, DrWilgy in current PoE

More undecided between Lucy and DrWilgy because of Tommy wagon

Ic ic if you drop wilgy and add axe we have a pretty similar world view. Thoughts on axe's explanation of not voting porscha? Felt pretty bad. What's your issue with wilgy?

Axes filter is certainly cryptic. Don't really get the movie references and don't even think they made that many different movies of Pirates OTC. But maybe I'll get it another time.
He's consistent in sheeping MacDougall, explains some Mac-Sean history.
Tone overall reads good to me.

I think I'd townlean this at least for D1 because he semi-freely gave information.
I might join him on that and go matt here.

Are you a gymnast?

Bit out of shape and weathered to be honest. Slim but still. Going to need a break from mafia at some point, but it was a great experience so far.

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 6:04 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:53 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:49 pm Tommy*, not matt

Nooks ISO also rather wolfy.

So Nook, Lucy, Porscha, DrWilgy in current PoE

More undecided between Lucy and DrWilgy because of Tommy wagon

Ic ic if you drop wilgy and add axe we have a pretty similar world view. Thoughts on axe's explanation of not voting porscha? Felt pretty bad. What's your issue with wilgy?

Axes filter is certainly cryptic. Don't really get the movie references and don't even think they made that many different movies of Pirates OTC. But maybe I'll get it another time.
He's consistent in sheeping MacDougall, explains some Mac-Sean history.
Tone overall reads good to me.

I think I'd townlean this at least for D1 because he semi-freely gave information.
I might join him on that and go matt here.