The Syndicate

Doctors should absolutely protect someone worthwhile, and as much as this pains me to say it, in this game that is not me.

My solve is known, I trust in others to be able to push and prod as required.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:55 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:38 pm you did claim your other role so couldn't they soup you from that?
Also they were pretty obvious with a claim about it yesterday.

Are you saying flea that you can’t be souped at all?

Right now, absolutely not. I cannot be souped even with some weird ass moon logic rn :P

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:38 pm you did claim your other role so couldn't they soup you from that?

I've left enough crumbs. I'm hoping the person I threw them at, picked them up.
I've softed my other enough I can hit people with it like an over inflated balloon.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:30 pm Mafia will prolly kill like me or HK tonight- flea thinks FAER drawing the NK. Someone they’re less sure of for the soup kill

We’re in an excellent spot.

Scotty you've been a good bean so far, I am going to start getting progressively angrier about this...
Given I'm an IC and have claimed unsoupable IC, their only means of getting rid of me is from that.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:27 pm I don't think you are mafia anymore but its not because of something the mod wrote in a bastard game. Nanook's point with Seanzie's role is very strong. Alison's point about your votes is also good. And also you have the demeanour of a town frustrated that the dumb person won't accept your status as inno child. Which I can relate to.

I mean you said it, it literally is more than just what the mod wrote though. There's the image, not a text post, an image, there's the vote counter stating I am mod confirmed, and theres the marked event in the initial post where even the soup kills aren't listed.

So with your information, we literally have 5 confirmed town.
One of us is being taken out tonight, I suspect I'm getting NK'd as I cannot be souped for the IC.

If you still for some reason have doubts on my IC status, check post 1.

Well either way, I've targeted mac, in theory, PGO should give me a result - active or not.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:51 pm
Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:47 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:33 pm
Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:27 pm My solve sits at within TH, Mac and 1 other rn. Probably Nanook because ye gods the passivity here is unreal so I need to read them.
It's hard to imagine Mac intentionally postblocking himself for 2 day phases on end just to earn some towncred given the way he likes to play as scum. I have been burned by that kind of read before (Stardew Valley Mafia) though.

Regardless if Mac is mafia he is townsiding mafia based on his vote record and he will have to continue townsiding in order not to get exposed. In that world it is easier to let him expose his teammates for us and screw himself afterwards by being trapped solo. If he is town we should obviously allow him to give his solve. Either way I am inclined to give Mac a pass for now and search for candidates past TH. I am considering his point about Creature being a bus.
If memory serves, Mac massively overshot their postcount, meaning a penalty could have been imposed.
I don't think that was a player curse.
The penalty for overposting is being vanillaized

2. @MacDougall ISO (Day 1 Posts: 93), (Day 2 Posts: 241) , (Day 3 Posts: 266), (Day 4 Posts: 290)

D1 the penalty didn't fully apply, D2 is a massive overshoot on allowed posts.
Which means Mac is lying about actions as they are now vanillaised anyway.
I wouldn't be surprised if additional penalties are imposed as well.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:38 pm
Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:27 pm My solve sits at within TH, Mac and 1 other rn. Probably Nanook because ye gods the passivity here is unreal so I need to read them.
Please try to separate your distaste of me from your read. I rarely get into heated arguments with wolves. It is probably similar for you. When two passionate people feel righteous it explodes. Wolves don't tend to have that same ceiling imo.

I do apologise for upsetting you. It wasn't my intention to misgender you. I do use dude as everyday vernacular to describe everything including my female cat. It isn't a projection of fragile masculinity its lazy adopted vocabulary. I assure you what you think of me is not the full picture. Except the ego part I do have way too much of that.

I get in heated situations often. My read is unaffected by your transphobic behaviors.
And your apology means nothing at this point, you already doubled down on your action and you continue to defend it.

I have highlighted my read and the reasonings for them.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:33 pm
Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:27 pm My solve sits at within TH, Mac and 1 other rn. Probably Nanook because ye gods the passivity here is unreal so I need to read them.
It's hard to imagine Mac intentionally postblocking himself for 2 day phases on end just to earn some towncred given the way he likes to play as scum. I have been burned by that kind of read before (Stardew Valley Mafia) though.

Regardless if Mac is mafia he is townsiding mafia based on his vote record and he will have to continue townsiding in order not to get exposed. In that world it is easier to let him expose his teammates for us and screw himself afterwards by being trapped solo. If he is town we should obviously allow him to give his solve. Either way I am inclined to give Mac a pass for now and search for candidates past TH. I am considering his point about Creature being a bus.

If memory serves, Mac massively overshot their postcount, meaning a penalty could have been imposed.
I don't think that was a player curse.

My solve sits at within TH, Mac and 1 other rn. Probably Nanook because ye gods the passivity here is unreal so I need to read them.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:02 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:00 pm Also Mac you don't know what you're talking about with the gender identity stuff and you're clearly hurting someone please stop.
They don't seem hurt to me.

Don't talk to me like this. You're literally the primary exponent of mafia being emotion free. Hypocrite free zone please Alison

You know something.
You genuinely are an egocentric fucking moron.

And thats coming from someone fighting off a god complex.

I'm getting killed anyway so I may as well reveal my other ability I used.

I was a double voter the other day, Guills votes were mine >:)

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:59 am
Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:58 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:52 am
Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:51 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:49 am
Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:45 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:44 am Mac is obvious town but also don't push on almost certainly confirmed town flea lol
Mac howls at the moon, just saying.

Look at what they've said.

Oh and mac, your lack of apology is noted.
Why would I apologise? Dude is gender neutral. I'm not apologising I've done nothing wrong.
Fair enough sister. You keep fighting that fight.
This is me taking the high ground.

Hi.
Ok I'm going to refrain from using insult here as best I can, my MH conditions are having a party right now so this is filtered.

Dude is not gender neutral. Never has been, never will be.
It is MASCULINE.
And because it is MASCULINE it is a FORCED COMPLIMENT upon non-binary and femme folk because Masculinity is the best thing you can have.

You don't have the high ground here sweetie, you have a delusion.
2021 says hi

Oh good you do know what year it is, so stop forcing your fragile, toxic masculinity on others.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:52 am
Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:51 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:49 am
Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:45 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:44 am Mac is obvious town but also don't push on almost certainly confirmed town flea lol
Mac howls at the moon, just saying.

Look at what they've said.

Oh and mac, your lack of apology is noted.
Why would I apologise? Dude is gender neutral. I'm not apologising I've done nothing wrong.
Fair enough sister. You keep fighting that fight.
This is me taking the high ground.

Hi.

Ok I'm going to refrain from using insult here as best I can, my MH conditions are having a party right now so this is filtered.

Dude is not gender neutral. Never has been, never will be.
It is MASCULINE.
And because it is MASCULINE it is a FORCED COMPLIMENT upon non-binary and femme folk because Masculinity is the best thing you can have.

You don't have the high ground here sweetie, you have a delusion.

Well either way, I die, or I get something usable on you.

For you or against you, is a different question.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:49 am
Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:45 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:44 am Mac is obvious town but also don't push on almost certainly confirmed town flea lol
Mac howls at the moon, just saying.

Look at what they've said.

Oh and mac, your lack of apology is noted.
Why would I apologise? Dude is gender neutral. I'm not apologising I've done nothing wrong.

Fair enough sister. You keep fighting that fight.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:48 am
Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:43 am OH sweetie you wish.

Show me my open wolf?
I'll pass on that. Engaging with you is pointless.

My shitty role is ascetic/miller/disloyal paranoid gun owner.

ascetic means only killing roles hit me. I activated it last night.

I activated miller tonight.

Disloyal PGO means that every town that targets me dies and the scum live.

I originally had a ghost rider themed role as you can see confirmed by the fact that Honey stole one of my n1 actions the penance stare.

Beyond that I buried ender on d1. My votes are sound and fresh. My vibes the sickest.

You do you "mod confirmed town in a bastard game trumps all".

If the wolves have a second soup then I'm dying anyway cuz they clearly already know my role as they wrote it in the soup kill already.

Well fuck me I'm dying tonight if your PGO is active. I'm targeting you

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:44 am Mac is obvious town but also don't push on almost certainly confirmed town flea lol

Mac howls at the moon, just saying.

Look at what they've said.

Oh and mac, your lack of apology is noted.

OH sweetie you wish.

Show me my open wolf?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:41 am youre truly having a joke rn

Nah, you're not funny enough to make a good one.

We go TH then Mac.

Oh and Mac, I hope you don't have anything incriminating on your person.

Because I'm about to find it.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:34 am
Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:31 am This is going to be a fun night.

I'm going to love this Maccy.

You're my D1 DireHit
dude just sit down

...

OH hell no I will not.

ONE, YOU DO NOT CALL ME DUDE. Had I not made it clear about my identity before now? Then let me make it crystal for you.

Two, I've sat down enough this game. Don't you think?

Three, Soup kill mechanics are unknown to us. Bold of you to assume they had 1 bullet of a scattergun. Sounds lil sus to me you're oh so convinced of that.

FOUR. You're willing to disbelieve my Innocent Child ability, which came with a fancy pants image confirmation. Over a TEXT POST about a SOUP KILL that claimed TO DENY THE NIGHT SHOT when a night shot still happened...

Five, You were townier when you were cursed.

Mafia also has the soup kill, a mechanic that allows them to kill players by correctly guessing their role actions. Scum has to submit only 1 of a player's JOAT's abilities for the soup kill to work. This is a mechanic that punishes claiming, there is no info of how many soup kill shots scum got, it could be 1 or it could be infinite. The soup kill is absolute and inevitable if a role ability is submitted correctly.

This is going to be a fun night.

I'm going to love this Maccy.

You're my D1 DireHit

Nice fish.

The soup is unlimited.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:25 am
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:25 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:23 am
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:21 am Guillo uses light theme smh

So TH should just be a wolf

For the third, who took the fewest risks today, had the bussiest treatment of Martin today, and fit the most as the third wolf gamestate-wise today? Outside of the modpeeked player and the post-restricted player of course.
Good luck pal but you randed into a wolf slot.
No I subbed into a wolf slot
But IMO my entrance was very towny and attractive
it was you did your best but like there are 4 living mod confirmed town from the soup and then osie spewed Scotty and nanook is just town.

...

... ...

In a game advertised as bastard....

you don't believe my fancy pants image clear...

but you believe the soup that claimed to remove the nightkill even though a kill still happened.

*takes the crossbow back and points it at Mac*

I also started saying it from the start I was confirmable, if you remember :3

Hopefully I eat the kill here.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:22 am
Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:20 am So TH next, then we look at Listo and Nanook
Listo and Nanook are very town. Osie spewed Listo town. Nanook confirmed to have sheeped me and Alison on a wolf d1 just makes him town.

TH and c4 are mafia probably.

I don't buy your clear. This game is literally advertised bastard so if anything getting a mod clear makes you more sus.

Everyone else is clear now. Scotty is spewed clear as is Hollowkatt.

I have a fancy pants image clearing me and it was in the poll.
Which TH voting for me on that was just beautiful

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:20 am Guess what I am back. Woofs prepare to die.

*hands over the crossbow and silvered bolts*

So TH next, then we look at Listo and Nanook

I mean, I got a fancy pants image for mine :P

Nobody gave me a gun

oh thats not soupable either scumbuckets.
Feel free to try.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:56 pm We got a mayor up in here. Yeah, I mean, flea was town anyhow so

Nah I'm just that sweet and innocent and I have ice cream

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:54 pm I don’t trust it

I do, I trust it very much.
Same as guillos votes yesterday, much trust.

Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 5:01 pm Heya Martin, When you're caught up gives us a top 3 and bottom 3 will ya?

Heads up, I'm feelin pretty sour on your slot. The Flea is lookin for blood.

Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 5:17 pm Nope, I said when you're caught up, when you're caught up depends on when you think you're caught up on recent events. you're reading something, evidently.

Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:08 am
TripleHaven wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:09 am
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:12 pm alison, mac, flea, myself. How many wolves in that set?
Probably just flea, alison if I'm really tinfoiling
Now that is some tinfoil, talk me through your thinking here? Because I haven't seen much thinking from you and I keep forgetting you're in the game.

Im still waitin on these btw.

Too late.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:20 pm If the soup is real my best guess for LoMo's death is some kind of KP that isn't tied to the factional NK, like a conditional kill or something along those lines. We know that Michelle had something similar (the killing framer role, which kills anyone that visits the person they framed and isn't an investigative), so there could be more conditional KP the mafia has.

Flea promised to tryhard but I'm not really seeing it. Fae've still been overall townie on play and if Martin flips red I'm pretty sure fae're cleared because in that world TH is pushing them as the next most viable misexe to try to save Martin. So I'm just going to let the Martin flip resolve faer for me.

I'm waiting on interactions, i can resolve myself easily.

In fact, lets do it. Lets draw the NK.

TripleHaven wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:09 am
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:12 pm
TripleHaven wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:08 pm scum get your grimey hands off martin
alison, mac, flea, myself. How many wolves in that set?
Probably just flea, alison if I'm really tinfoiling

Now that is some tinfoil, talk me through your thinking here? Because I haven't seen much thinking from you and I keep forgetting you're in the game.

People might remember me saying at some point I'm reflexive, and I might have said I let the scum come to me.

Cegs certainly trying

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:03 pm Flea's Michelle push reads as exceedingly convenient
Especially since it's just about the only thing they did D1 other than lock consensus townies town

Only question is if a wolf would even think to spend their D1 like that
Alison and Mac both locked Michelle town, seems like a weird bus

Let me assure you, my wolf game is stronger than that.

Nope, I said when you're caught up, when you're caught up depends on when you think you're caught up on recent events. you're reading something, evidently.

Heya Martin, When you're caught up gives us a top 3 and bottom 3 will ya?

Heads up, I'm feelin pretty sour on your slot. The Flea is lookin for blood.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:03 pm Busy day, will be in for a stretch tonight

Welcome back hk

Good, because other than being wooly I got nothing on you, not even a play style and that leads me to think I may find a zipper under there.

osieorb18 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:10 pm I think current wagons (TH/Listo) are W/W so I'm fine with either.

Why? You wanna interact lets go. TH and Listo, who else, why?

MacDougall, MacDougall, MacDougall.
Name said thrice, places your jinx on ice.

Something like that, there was a weird ass rhyme...

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:17 pm [VOTE: TH] aubergine

Lime Coke is in a weird state for me. If Ender is scum then he's scumsided with his pushes pretty hard and I found his D1 posting to be pretty wolfy. To his credit is the fact that his interactions with honey looked T/T and kind of unnecessary for a mafia to fake (if he's scum and honey is town he'd get more mileage from letting me/Mac tunnel her and then turning the heat around on us when she flips town than by going for a level 1 white knight play). He was also one of the people included in the soupkill, and a genuine soupkill attempt on Lime Coke fits best in a scum Ender world rather than a town Ender one. The soupkill attempt is at least plausible - he did soft doc or some variant of protective role a couple of times and was visibly tilted when his pet townread and in-game best friend died at night. Adding everything up, probably leaning slightly more town than scum, but keep holding him accountable for his pushes.

I don't know what to make of Flea. Fae haven't really gotten into the meat of the interactions and pushes and had a weird reluctance to push Ender yesterday asking me if I was sure and stating that fae didn't want to commit to the vote (implied to be for some mech reason, like an ability that shorts out if they vote town or something). I think fae are still overall townie on play, especially on D2, and I am looking forward to seeing faer tryhard solving today.

It didn't short out, While i may have been lacking in my verbosity or theatrical elegance, what I did worked fully as expected >:) mwahahaha.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 1:02 pm
Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:24 pm
listo95 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:41 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:31 am
listo95 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:18 am ANd with Ender I did say he would need to be resolved but I thought based on his posting he was townie. If that is literally the reason I'm teamed with him then lol.
It’s more of a pattern IMO.

I can break it down in shorthand first:
Michele mentioned you once.
All of your interactions with Ender where he scumreads you are softball distancing. He even goes so far as to say you were safe for D1 but you could be resolved later.
You voted for…nook? D1, which was a throwaway vote early but you just rode with it, and you continue to do so to this day.
D2 you continued with nook, not adding anything to the trains at hand.
D3 you continue with the nook tunnel only to join the creature brigade, saying he looks towny, then unvoting after his death, leaving your vote on nothing.

That’s the skinny.
I also did only post 14 times D1 so really almost no one interacted with me.
I'm generally an easy miselim due to my low post style
And for the D1 Nook I said I was going to sleep and would try to catch up when I woke up, I woke up and by the time I caught up day had just ended.
The D2 and D3 Nook is because I do genuinely believe he is wolf.
Wow now THAT is a steaming pile of horseshit.

Hi, I'm Flea The Magician - a low poster with lots of miselim potential. Especially as I've been frankly coasting most of the game.
If you wanna survive, gitgud, start hunting and lets do this.

Also fucking rip my second power.
You lost your second power?

Nope, but it's useless.

listo95 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:41 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:31 am
listo95 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:18 am ANd with Ender I did say he would need to be resolved but I thought based on his posting he was townie. If that is literally the reason I'm teamed with him then lol.
It’s more of a pattern IMO.

I can break it down in shorthand first:
Michele mentioned you once.
All of your interactions with Ender where he scumreads you are softball distancing. He even goes so far as to say you were safe for D1 but you could be resolved later.
You voted for…nook? D1, which was a throwaway vote early but you just rode with it, and you continue to do so to this day.
D2 you continued with nook, not adding anything to the trains at hand.
D3 you continue with the nook tunnel only to join the creature brigade, saying he looks towny, then unvoting after his death, leaving your vote on nothing.

That’s the skinny.
I also did only post 14 times D1 so really almost no one interacted with me.
I'm generally an easy miselim due to my low post style
And for the D1 Nook I said I was going to sleep and would try to catch up when I woke up, I woke up and by the time I caught up day had just ended.
The D2 and D3 Nook is because I do genuinely believe he is wolf.

Wow now THAT is a steaming pile of horseshit.

Hi, I'm Flea The Magician - a low poster with lots of miselim potential. Especially as I've been frankly coasting most of the game.
If you wanna survive, gitgud, start hunting and lets do this.

Also fucking rip my second power.

I'm going to have to gitgud now arent I.

[VOTE: Gnome] aubergine

Now we're in the sketchy territory.

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