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by Lime Coke
Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:47 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Lime Coke wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:46 pm Marmot has said that he allegedly has a red check so I'm holding my vote back until then.
Until he outs**
by Lime Coke
Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:46 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Views: 76764

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Marmot has said that he allegedly has a red check so I'm holding my vote back until then.
by Lime Coke
Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:32 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Lime Coke wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:28 pm
sig wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:21 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:20 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:08 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:51 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:48 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:25 pm @falcon45ca

When you get on let me know your full thought process on Gavial.
I feel I've outlined my feelings on Gav's slot pretty clearly. Do you have a specific question in mind?


I'd put Gav at 72% scum
My thing is that Gavial's mafia game is that his viewpoint is zoned in way more, as in we saw him just tunnel the hell out of Mac during our last game, and I remember him tunneling Alison all game in Baby Mafia.

I didn't keep up with the rest of the game after I died, how was he during the rest of the game when he was mafia? Did he give dichotomies like he's doing this game during Akemi Mafia?
who are your top town?
Nanook, Falcon, LP would be most confident townreads.
Everyone else I've listed on my townlist is slightly below but I would not be voting today or any time soon.
Why those three?
What do you think of Falcon voting off the wagons?
Nanook, while low efforting, is giving something to work with and trying to vote according to how he feels. Also when I gave my first townlist I was thinking of putting him on it, but was afraid of pulling the trigger too early, but then he put himself on top of the list for me and I decided "Sure, I'll accept that" and I'm keeping him there the rest of the game because it's funny and would be amazing if he is indeed town.

Falcon because of posts like #649 where it's a grammatical microread that I've seen him do before as town, and I feel as though that would be difficult as fuck to simulate as mafia even with practice.

LP just overall attempting to solve and trying to figure out what the best vote is for town that actually provides something for the game. Details in reads are pretty good. Responses to pressure were fine as well, nothing over the top, and just continued to play.
@sig

I didn't answer the second question and I just looked to see who he voted.

I'm not hating the move? He tries to make a threadstate read based on how the Sabie wagon formed in terms of speed so can see him being paranoid over the wagon being on a town.
by Lime Coke
Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:28 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
Replies: 4048
Views: 76764

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

sig wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:21 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:20 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:08 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:51 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:48 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:25 pm @falcon45ca

When you get on let me know your full thought process on Gavial.
I feel I've outlined my feelings on Gav's slot pretty clearly. Do you have a specific question in mind?


I'd put Gav at 72% scum
My thing is that Gavial's mafia game is that his viewpoint is zoned in way more, as in we saw him just tunnel the hell out of Mac during our last game, and I remember him tunneling Alison all game in Baby Mafia.

I didn't keep up with the rest of the game after I died, how was he during the rest of the game when he was mafia? Did he give dichotomies like he's doing this game during Akemi Mafia?
who are your top town?
Nanook, Falcon, LP would be most confident townreads.
Everyone else I've listed on my townlist is slightly below but I would not be voting today or any time soon.
Why those three?
What do you think of Falcon voting off the wagons?
Nanook, while low efforting, is giving something to work with and trying to vote according to how he feels. Also when I gave my first townlist I was thinking of putting him on it, but was afraid of pulling the trigger too early, but then he put himself on top of the list for me and I decided "Sure, I'll accept that" and I'm keeping him there the rest of the game because it's funny and would be amazing if he is indeed town.

Falcon because of posts like #649 where it's a grammatical microread that I've seen him do before as town, and I feel as though that would be difficult as fuck to simulate as mafia even with practice.

LP just overall attempting to solve and trying to figure out what the best vote is for town that actually provides something for the game. Details in reads are pretty good. Responses to pressure were fine as well, nothing over the top, and just continued to play.
by Lime Coke
Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:20 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
Replies: 4048
Views: 76764

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

MacDougall wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:08 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:51 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:48 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:25 pm @falcon45ca

When you get on let me know your full thought process on Gavial.
I feel I've outlined my feelings on Gav's slot pretty clearly. Do you have a specific question in mind?


I'd put Gav at 72% scum
My thing is that Gavial's mafia game is that his viewpoint is zoned in way more, as in we saw him just tunnel the hell out of Mac during our last game, and I remember him tunneling Alison all game in Baby Mafia.

I didn't keep up with the rest of the game after I died, how was he during the rest of the game when he was mafia? Did he give dichotomies like he's doing this game during Akemi Mafia?
who are your top town?
Nanook, Falcon, LP would be most confident townreads.
Everyone else I've listed on my townlist is slightly below but I would not be voting today or any time soon.
by Lime Coke
Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:57 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
Replies: 4048
Views: 76764

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Town:
Nanook
Falcon
LP
Mac
DrWilgy
Dolby
Guillo
TSP

Switching Gavial out and putting Mac in for Dizzy's tentative townread on Mac, then placing TSP in. Again, 8 towns plus me makes it 9.

That leaves....

Gavial
Jack
Marmot
Martin
NAA
Sabie
Sig
by Lime Coke
Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:51 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
Replies: 4048
Views: 76764

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

falcon45ca wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:48 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:25 pm @falcon45ca

When you get on let me know your full thought process on Gavial.
I feel I've outlined my feelings on Gav's slot pretty clearly. Do you have a specific question in mind?


I'd put Gav at 72% scum
My thing is that Gavial's mafia game is that his viewpoint is zoned in way more, as in we saw him just tunnel the hell out of Mac during our last game, and I remember him tunneling Alison all game in Baby Mafia.

I didn't keep up with the rest of the game after I died, how was he during the rest of the game when he was mafia? Did he give dichotomies like he's doing this game during Akemi Mafia?
by Lime Coke
Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:49 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
Replies: 4048
Views: 76764

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

LinearPoint wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:45 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:42 pm
LinearPoint wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:41 pm I mean legitimately no one town read Dizzy from what I saw.
To be honest I don't really suspect you Jack, more Sig since they seem a bit suspicious and Sabie because that was a very convenient CFD onto a random person I think only really Dolby had been suspecting.
I did. 👀
As a reminder you Town read like 70% of the game.
I'm highly confident in my townreads and because of that I build a towncore and kill everyone else.
by Lime Coke
Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:47 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
Replies: 4048
Views: 76764

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

LinearPoint wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:44 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:42 pm NAA dies either way and shouldn't be end gaming.
See honestly I was sort of expecting the Mafia to hard push for NAA lynch today because he never talked and started a random CFD which is just an easy target.
Granted, you're right NAA can't be trusted to carry a Town late game, but I don't like the hyperfixation on an easy target to mislynch.
Sure he may be Mafia, but NAA always does this shit as Town too, it's not really AI at this point in time I feel. If anything Guillotine is right he's more a decent vig target.
I'm pointing more towards the fact that he practically 0 posted until EOD, which is what he did in his last scum game, which is why I think he's flat out mafia.
by Lime Coke
Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:43 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Dolby wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:42 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:38 pm @Dolby

Well, since you're here, why did you specifically vote Seanzie?
kinda felt that the way that he went about the claims super early and was a bit insistent to it wasn't the best and didn't understand his susses.

also ngl I don't want to be lumped in with that cfd bc 1. I voted a full 60 minutes before the CFDers smh and 2. none of them but Nanook made their vote known in any visible way. I still don't know how was the other 1-2 people on Seanzie pre-CFD

like yeah I voted there near EoD and I get it lol
👍
by Lime Coke
Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:42 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Views: 76764

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

LinearPoint wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:41 pm I mean legitimately no one town read Dizzy from what I saw.
To be honest I don't really suspect you Jack, more Sig since they seem a bit suspicious and Sabie because that was a very convenient CFD onto a random person I think only really Dolby had been suspecting.
I did. 👀
by Lime Coke
Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:42 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Views: 76764

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

NAA dies either way and shouldn't be end gaming.
by Lime Coke
Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:39 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Views: 76764

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Like the only person I remember saying anything about Sean being sus that was on the wagon was Mac during Day 0 and continuing it on early Day 1. I'm trying to remember if there was anyone else that was actually on the wagon.
by Lime Coke
Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:38 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

@Dolby

Well, since you're here, why did you specifically vote Seanzie?
by Lime Coke
Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:29 pm
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Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Sabie is probably one because of how Dizzy was reacting at EOD yesterday.
by Lime Coke
Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:25 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Views: 76764

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

@falcon45ca

When you get on let me know your full thought process on Gavial.
by Lime Coke
Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:21 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Views: 76764

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

By the way back in Batman Mafia where NAA was mafia, he never posted at all and just moved his vote around to the lead wagon until EOD.

Here he did basically the same thing with barely posting until EOD.

I'm about 90% sure this dude is just mafia.
by Lime Coke
Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:19 pm
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Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Dyslexicon wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 2:38 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 8:03 am Town:
Nanook
Falcon
Dizzy
LP
Gavial
DrWilgy
Dolby
Guillo

8 towns, include me would make it 9.

That leaves....

Jack
Mac
Marmot
Martin
NAA
Sabie
Sig
TSP


So I'm in hopes that most of mafia are in the list of those 8. If I manage to get all of them in there then I'd be pretty happy.
Nice, a comprehensive view.

What makes Dolby town to you? I don't think they've done anything AI indicative yet.
For me, I'd be tempted to put both Mac and TSP as tentative town.
It's a bit tough, cause large part of the game isn't active at all.
You also forgot Sean.
I'm more comfortable with Guillo, Sean, LP and you as town. I think I've explained most of those reads somewhere, except you. But I just feel like you seem normal enough lol.
LP and Guillo congrats you 2 are now IC's for this game.

Mac and TSP are strongly in the towncore.
by Lime Coke
Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:17 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Views: 76764

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Actually...
by Lime Coke
Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:16 pm
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Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 2]

Feel like TSP is taking into some sort of commander role at least with the powers and trying to point town towards the right direction whenever he's here, so he goes into town list.
by Lime Coke
Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:14 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Lime Coke wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 8:32 am
MacDougall wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 8:20 am
Lime Coke wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 8:03 am Town:
Nanook
Falcon
Dizzy
LP
Gavial
DrWilgy
Dolby
Guillo

8 towns, include me would make it 9.

That leaves....

Jack
Mac
Marmot
Martin
NAA
Sabie
Sig
TSP


So I'm in hopes that most of mafia are in the list of those 8. If I manage to get all of them in there then I'd be pretty happy.
why x 8?

where's seanzie?
He should be in towns it's a good thing you said that.
The irony when my last post on Day 1 was saying that Sean should be in my town list.

Annnd he's the CFD and flips town.

Ballin'.
by Lime Coke
Mon Dec 20, 2021 8:32 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

MacDougall wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 8:20 am
Lime Coke wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 8:03 am Town:
Nanook
Falcon
Dizzy
LP
Gavial
DrWilgy
Dolby
Guillo

8 towns, include me would make it 9.

That leaves....

Jack
Mac
Marmot
Martin
NAA
Sabie
Sig
TSP


So I'm in hopes that most of mafia are in the list of those 8. If I manage to get all of them in there then I'd be pretty happy.
why x 8?

where's seanzie?
He should be in towns it's a good thing you said that.
by Lime Coke
Mon Dec 20, 2021 8:04 am
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Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Views: 76764

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

I'm putting my vote on Jack.

Again I might not be here for EOD, if I'm not then good luck if I am then I'll see you then.
by Lime Coke
Mon Dec 20, 2021 8:03 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Views: 76764

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Town:
Nanook
Falcon
Dizzy
LP
Gavial
DrWilgy
Dolby
Guillo

8 towns, include me would make it 9.

That leaves....

Jack
Mac
Marmot
Martin
NAA
Sabie
Sig
TSP


So I'm in hopes that most of mafia are in the list of those 8. If I manage to get all of them in there then I'd be pretty happy.
by Lime Coke
Mon Dec 20, 2021 7:54 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Views: 76764

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Wilgy as town typically goes into gimmicks most of Day 1 and then proceeds to go into solve attempts Day 2 and onwards.

Example of this is Philosphy 2 when he spoke in a gimmick that a few people can understand all of Day 1 until he was in trouble and almost yeeted and became serious.


Last few games where Wilgy was either 3P or mafia he was a bit more attempting to solve or push someone at the start of the game.

So yeah the muffled talking gimmick is town!indicative of him in my view.
by Lime Coke
Mon Dec 20, 2021 6:16 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Views: 76764

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

I don't know if I'll be on at EOD but I'm keeping my reads active in the game so if I somehow end up dying N1 it probably means they're 95% correct.
by Lime Coke
Mon Dec 20, 2021 6:14 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Views: 76764

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Dolby town.

This becomes easier as I narrow numbers down and I end up voting correctly this entire game.
by Lime Coke
Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:55 am
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Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Views: 76764

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

sabie12 wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:51 am
Gavial wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:28 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:06 am FYI, I'm going on a road trip tomorrow for my son's kidcov checkup and also to visit my alma mater for the first time in about a decade, take the kids to Eskimo Joes.

But I still won't be yeeted because even so, I'm unyeetable as town. :noble:
As town?
Your unyeetable as mafia?
How did you forget?
Doesn't jack just always say he is unyeetable every game? My read on him always ends up being wrong so I'm unsure which way to lean yet.
He hasn't gotten yeeted yet as far as I've seen.

Which again, at least don't let him make it to LYLO.
by Lime Coke
Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:08 am
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Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:04 am
Gavial wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:13 pm Yeah very well Dizzy.
If your wolf I’ll get off your partner and vote Jack who could also be your partner.

Idk man I don’t wanna see Jack win and survive another LYLO as wolf.
Hey for once, I randed town. :haha:
Did you really?
by Lime Coke
Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:55 pm
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Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Views: 76764

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Gavial wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:16 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:06 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:05 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:59 pm Town:
Nanook
Falcon
Dizzy
LP
Gavial
DrWilgy
Ftfy
👍
Nanook’s barley done anything but that’s typical Nanook.
Try’s to put himself in the towncore lol, it’s a joke of course but I think it’s intriguing to know how Nanook feels about himself this game.

Marmot on the other hand I wanna see a vote on.
Being honest I was thinking of putting him on there but putting him at the bottom because I wasn't sure if I was pulling the trigger too early, but then he placed himself on top and I'm going to oblige and keep him there.
by Lime Coke
Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:53 pm
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Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Views: 76764

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Gavial wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:11 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:59 pm Town:
Falcon
Dizzy
LP
Gavial
DrWilgy
Why Dizzy and what’s your opinion on Gullio?
Do you agree with the if one is wolf so is the other, Guillo/Dizzy?
Just the way he's solving and trying to get town to come together and not have a chaotic game. His read on Seanzie when I tried asking him made sense with what was presented, and him going on a tangent last night after the Seanzie read looks really good and agendaless.

Guillo is being his super aggressive self with his FOS's which points to him more than likely being town, but I'm keeping caution for some reason. Not at all voting him Day 1.
by Lime Coke
Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:06 pm
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Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:05 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:59 pm Town:
Nanook
Falcon
Dizzy
LP
Gavial
DrWilgy
Ftfy
👍
by Lime Coke
Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:59 pm
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Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Views: 76764

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Town:
Falcon
Dizzy
LP
Gavial
DrWilgy
by Lime Coke
Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:40 pm
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Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Views: 76764

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

@Marmot

Why are you way more low presence compared to Philo 2?
by Lime Coke
Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:37 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Guillotine wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:05 am
Lime Coke wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:32 am
Dyslexicon wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:24 am Sean is well within town range. He’s done several things I associate with town!Sean. I haven’t played with mafia!Sean, but I’ve read a game where he was mafia. @Lime Coke
If you want to describe why, it would be appreciated. If you want to keep a lid on it for reasons I'll try to take your word for what he is.
Again. Do you townread Dyslexicon? If not why would tou take his word for what it is?
I didn't townread Dizzy at that point, I was trying to ask for what they see in terms of what Sean was doing and what I can learn about Sean's meta. Plus it's an attempt to see how Dizzy is reading people so that I can determine his alignment. Like I said I didn't actually give a true townread until after Dizzy went on a spat talking about a number of player's alignments.
Guillotine wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:37 am @Lime Coke why are you avoiding me?
We're not on at the same time and I'm doing my own thing?
Actually not many people are on which is a normal occurrence for me but I deal with what I have in front of me.
by Lime Coke
Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:33 pm
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Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Views: 76764

Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Low key I was townreading Gavial when he was attempting to gain some sort of dichotomies with players and the way he's moving reads around seems fine and less agenda oriented.

However having 90% of my backread just reading Gavial posts makes me want him to kill him more just to shut him the fuck up.
by Lime Coke
Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:55 am
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Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 0]

Dyslexicon wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:51 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:42 am
Dyslexicon wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:40 am
LinearPoint wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:08 pm As far as setup outing wolves go it's more in the fact that their Mafia unique abilities really outs them.
For example we can really really easily find Spy, Medic, and Sniper scum since their Mafia abilities actively out themselves.
I haven't read the setup really.

Does anyone know if this means if the town versions of these roles can verify themselves? @TonyStarkPrime Mech!

If so, we should do that.
Yeah I saw the same thing as LP. It’s hard to set up I think. Maybe we can verify a sniper easily though
If we can do it, we should probably just do it. Would appreciate anyone who can figure out if something like that can be done.

Regarding Falcon, can you explain your read on him? My first instinct was town. If Gavial is mafia, I'm more suspicious though, as I think their interaction is particularly bad.
There honestly might be something to that regarding a game that just finished.
by Lime Coke
Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:03 am
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Topic: Team Fortress Mafia [END]
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 0]

Dyslexicon wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:35 am I think Sean is town, because he seems to be actually thinking about the game, and he's having reactions to his own reactions to the game, which I think shows his reactions are genuine.
Seanzie wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 1:47 pm
sig wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 1:33 pm
Seanzie wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:22 pm So looking back, I think Linearpoint and Mac are >rand!mafia, but that second one might be mildly fueled by OMGUS.
why?
Linearpoint's first post is the sort of first post that I like to make as scum (I always find the first post the hardest, after getting the first post out of the way, it is much easier to continue. Sometimes I even specifically try to "first" specifically to get the first post out of the way), and while this is not scum-indicative necessarily, it is scum-compatible. Then as others have mentioned, sometimes scum likes to mech-talk to hide, and their posts in regards to my team-claim suggestion feel the most likely to be coming from scum trying to look helpful in a mech discussion.

As for Mac, he called me mafia, so he must be mafia.
This awareness of omgusing and making a joke out of it is an example. He's commenting on how he feels, while at the same time it is how he feels.
Seanzie wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:10 pm
Guillotine wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:12 pm Sig is hardcore obvious scum and im tunneling to their slow and painful death.
I don't know what parallel world I have entered, but I'm like 90% to locking Guillo town on D0 (this is hyperbole, but I do townread Guillo).

I agree on Sig. >rand!wolf for sure.

That't three in the team. Who is the last?
And this is similar. It's having a reaction to himself actually thinking Guillo is town and agreeing with him, which it seems he didn't expect. But at the same time, it is how he feels. As mafia, he would need to make up how he feels. But these reactions seems to show that how he feels is "in spite of" (in spite of not wanting to town read Guillo fully, in spite of not wanting to omgus).

^So that is me explaining a town read, which may or may not make sense to anyone.

But overall, I think Sean is town because he's jumping straight into the action. It just looks like he's really thinking about the game and wants to figure it out. Quite simply. And I've played enough with him that I think I know what that looks like.

@Lime Coke
Okay thank you, this is pretty helpful and I understand what you're saying with the quotes you've provided.

Also makes me feel good about you this game in regards to this and the rest of your process that you've been outing the rest of this page.
by Lime Coke
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Dyslexicon wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:24 am Sean is well within town range. He’s done several things I associate with town!Sean. I haven’t played with mafia!Sean, but I’ve read a game where he was mafia. @Lime Coke
If you want to describe why, it would be appreciated. If you want to keep a lid on it for reasons I'll try to take your word for what he is.
by Lime Coke
Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:20 am
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Dyslexicon wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:19 am
Lime Coke wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:36 am
LinearPoint wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:44 am
Gavial wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:48 am What are the chances Lime Coke is wolf with Jack?
I mean Jack hasn't posted yet so the only reason for this connection would be LC saying they've never seen Jack as Town which I mean I've not seen Jack as Town either but I don't see LC as using that to justify for or against a Jack lynch.
So like if you're wanting a serious answer it's roughly the probability any 2 specific people both roll Mafia. There's nothing really in LC's post about Jack that would confirm or deny a connection between them in any real way.
Personally I don't really like the arguments of "X is always Y" as a justification for or against anything as probability is a bitch and everything is in isolation with odds of being Mafia varying from game to game.
I can't think of the exact number, but I've had maybe 5 games with JackofHearts. They all have been him randing mafia against me being town.

The first game I'll say that I was 100% fooled, which was the game I linked earlier talking about catching Seanzie as mafia, and Jack hammered Seanzie Day 1 when I was the counterwagon which cleared him in my eyes.

The rest of the games Jack has been mafia and before it became a "streak" I was calling Jack out for specific reasons to be mafia, and then hesitated and pulled back and allowed him to live. Which he would end game every time and mafia wins because of it.

It's probably not a legitimate take or a read on Jack, it's more "I need to make up for not learning my lesson after fucking up a shit ton of times on the same mistake."

And the sad thing is he probably IS mafia this game and he's going to end game and win anyways despite me talking about all of this because the mafia gods fucking hate me.
Jack is me is Jack. Except he rands mafia more lol.

I’ve played a lot with him as town together.
Can you tell me if he's in his town range right now? 👀
by Lime Coke
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:04 am LP is IC level town
+1
by Lime Coke
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I haven't made that many reads and I'll get to them in this phase, I've barely been able to sleep this week so my focus is fucked.
by Lime Coke
Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:36 am
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

LinearPoint wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:44 am
Gavial wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:48 am What are the chances Lime Coke is wolf with Jack?
I mean Jack hasn't posted yet so the only reason for this connection would be LC saying they've never seen Jack as Town which I mean I've not seen Jack as Town either but I don't see LC as using that to justify for or against a Jack lynch.
So like if you're wanting a serious answer it's roughly the probability any 2 specific people both roll Mafia. There's nothing really in LC's post about Jack that would confirm or deny a connection between them in any real way.
Personally I don't really like the arguments of "X is always Y" as a justification for or against anything as probability is a bitch and everything is in isolation with odds of being Mafia varying from game to game.
I can't think of the exact number, but I've had maybe 5 games with JackofHearts. They all have been him randing mafia against me being town.

The first game I'll say that I was 100% fooled, which was the game I linked earlier talking about catching Seanzie as mafia, and Jack hammered Seanzie Day 1 when I was the counterwagon which cleared him in my eyes.

The rest of the games Jack has been mafia and before it became a "streak" I was calling Jack out for specific reasons to be mafia, and then hesitated and pulled back and allowed him to live. Which he would end game every time and mafia wins because of it.

It's probably not a legitimate take or a read on Jack, it's more "I need to make up for not learning my lesson after fucking up a shit ton of times on the same mistake."

And the sad thing is he probably IS mafia this game and he's going to end game and win anyways despite me talking about all of this because the mafia gods fucking hate me.
by Lime Coke
Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:43 am
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Oh I know Jack has randed mafia in every game, because I'm always in those games.

If he makes it to final 3 snapvote the shit out of him. I've legitimately never seen him rand town.
by Lime Coke
Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:34 am
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I can second the notion of alignment checking Dizzy because I don't know the differences between their town or mafia games.

Pretty sure I've misread them every game here.
by Lime Coke
Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:36 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 0]

MartinGG99 wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:16 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:55 pm Guys...Gavial is pinging me again...make him stop...

Particularly by doing this.

[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine
was there a specific post or series of posts you could point at as pinging you
Spoiler: show
Gavial wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:01 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 5:33 pm 16, 4, 18, 1, 13, 9, 7



That is my RNG POE


So Seanzie, falcon, TSP, Dolby, Nook, LP, & Jack...let's start flipping these goons
I like that but not LP.
Gavial wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:03 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:02 am
Seanzie wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:10 am
Dolby wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:28 pm Also don't see why a claim swap would happen?

If one goes down the other would go down
Claimswaps can happen late game when the remaining mafia members hope to win with both people involved alive.

Granted, I do concede that it is probably not super likely to happen.
What's not super likely? That Maf use claim swaps late game, or that Maf have multiple members alive late game?


Sean is in my sus pile
I can sheep you!
Inside the spoiler but post #1 Gavial takes Falcon's RNG team guess and says "I'm fine with all of them except for LP" which is taking a joke post seriously and literally just being "Fine" with the rest of the names being voted off.

Post #2 just yells out "I can sheep you!" towards Falcon for saying he sus's Sean. Like is he fine with sheeping Falcon because he agrees that Sean is wolfie orrrrrr...?
by Lime Coke
Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:36 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Seanzie wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:24 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:07 pm
Marmot wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:02 pm I've seen sean as scum but I don't remember how he behaved. Does that help?
If it helps the game I'm referring my meta to is this game:

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?t=2201

Where he did next to nothing.
Ftr, I can wolf better than that on a good day, but I've had a few pretty bad scum games due to wolf fatigue. In particular, that one you quoted was after a few scum draws in a row, and Danganropa3 on MafC I was also pretty scum fatigued because it was like my third scum game in a row, so I didn't really perform super well.
Okay that's fair since I went through the same earlier this year.

I still don't have a direct read on you so I'm just giving time.
by Lime Coke
Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:11 pm
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Marmot wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:09 pm The two games I do recall sean being scum in were AIM Mafia and Condiment (on Mafia Cafe), and I believe he had BTSC with civilians in each game, and spent a good amount of energy pocketing said civilians there.

I don't remember much else tho.
I'll have to look at those at a separate time, thanks.
by Lime Coke
Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:08 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Lime Coke wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:07 pm
Marmot wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:02 pm I've seen sean as scum but I don't remember how he behaved. Does that help?
If it helps the game I'm referring my meta to is this game:

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?t=2201

Where he did next to nothing.
The game I'm referring my meta read towards Seanzie**
by Lime Coke
Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:07 pm
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Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 1]

Marmot wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:02 pm I've seen sean as scum but I don't remember how he behaved. Does that help?
If it helps the game I'm referring my meta to is this game:

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?t=2201

Where he did next to nothing.

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