The Syndicate

ESOOA IS SO OBVIOUS town

I think at the least Finger is mafia.

Wilgy was voting Alexa for a good long while during EOD, he had the Finger wagon and Gira wagon, and talked specifically about the Finger wagon before finally trying to self-pres onto Finger.

Just full hesitation before realizing he needed to cut his losses and try to bus someone that isn't there.

alexa wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:21 am Illario was more suspicious of finger and thought Esooa was town even if Wilgy W which is part of why I'm voting finger

I noted Illario townreading Esooa regardless of Wilgy flip as well.

I'm a tad nervous that she was defending Wilgy as her partner, but yeah Illario might have something there?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:14 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:07 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:22 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:16 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:05 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:43 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:38 pm

I disagree. I think Ilario is one of my greenest reads.
Really?? Why?
Because your entry & agreement with Alison gave me towny vibes and you haven't done anything that I wouldn't read from a town voice? Plus my early scum read voted you so...
kk that makes sense

who else is in ur town pile atm?
Would say that the greener people are you, LC, and Alison. Slight town lean on Esooa, slight town lean on Mac.

Wolf leans are Alexa, Dizzy, SPF.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:44 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:22 am @Lime Coke let me know if your feelings on SPF are still the same or not whenever you're around
There were a bit of times that I was kind of wavering in my tunnel on her, specifically the "you shouldn't have to be townreading me to try to work with me since that puts you into a conf-bias" post. Plus Alison mentioning that SPF responding with anger being town indicative for her is a decent point as well. At this rate I don't think she's mafia as much as I was last night.

I can't tell if it's me bitching out on scumreading her, or I was just wrong originally.
Also running out of confident enough options to vote out on Day 1.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:45 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:41 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:35 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:20 pm [VOTE: wilgy] aubergine
why him?
zomg everyone's so towny

also his posts suck yet he has a lot of people townreading him for minor bad reasons which is >>>>rand wolf, and he hasn't answered my questioned about his dizzy read despite me pinging him multiple times
I saw one, and that was only because I re read. When in catch-up I'll often miss what was said while back reading until I get there.

At this point I'll take back my SPF wolf lean. The interactions between SPF and LC were good.

What did stick out was your slight town lean on Falcon. Talk to me about that one Alexa.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:47 pmHmmmm....

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:48 pm That timing though...
I think this was something that might've spewed SPF town? I remember making this post because Wilgy states "SPF is a scumread" then I respond to Alexa saying I don't scumread SPF anymore after what Alison says, then Wilgy just 180's his read on her.

Which was why I posted those two right after.
yeah, this is part of the reason why i was reluctant to wolfread wilgy on d1, because i was under the impression that he would be more likely to encourage the T/T violence between you and me instead of trying to convince you that i was town. it was TMI that would be so brazen and so unbeneficial for the wolfteam that i figured it was >rand likely to be coming from a villager

but reading wilgy's ISO through the lens of him just TMI'ing the fuck out of most people in this game, his insistence that you/me are T/T makes more sense

I think he was seeing what I was doing and realized you weren't a viable ML anymore and just gave up and townread you.

I didn't want to call it out at the time but I just planted that seed there in case he did flip wolf, which is probably something that's going to help town out way more than I was expecting it to.

I wish I took a screen shot of the poll after that but I thought it was posted.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:22 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:16 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:05 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:43 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:38 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:20 pm I think we should abandon all other premise and just murder ilario.
I disagree. I think Ilario is one of my greenest reads.
Really?? Why?
Because your entry & agreement with Alison gave me towny vibes and you haven't done anything that I wouldn't read from a town voice? Plus my early scum read voted you so...
kk that makes sense

who else is in ur town pile atm?
Would say that the greener people are you, LC, and Alison. Slight town lean on Esooa, slight town lean on Mac.

Wolf leans are Alexa, Dizzy, SPF.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:44 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:22 am @Lime Coke let me know if your feelings on SPF are still the same or not whenever you're around
There were a bit of times that I was kind of wavering in my tunnel on her, specifically the "you shouldn't have to be townreading me to try to work with me since that puts you into a conf-bias" post. Plus Alison mentioning that SPF responding with anger being town indicative for her is a decent point as well. At this rate I don't think she's mafia as much as I was last night.

I can't tell if it's me bitching out on scumreading her, or I was just wrong originally.
Also running out of confident enough options to vote out on Day 1.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:45 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:41 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:35 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:20 pm [VOTE: wilgy] aubergine
why him?
zomg everyone's so towny

also his posts suck yet he has a lot of people townreading him for minor bad reasons which is >>>>rand wolf, and he hasn't answered my questioned about his dizzy read despite me pinging him multiple times
I saw one, and that was only because I re read. When in catch-up I'll often miss what was said while back reading until I get there.

At this point I'll take back my SPF wolf lean. The interactions between SPF and LC were good.

What did stick out was your slight town lean on Falcon. Talk to me about that one Alexa.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:47 pmHmmmm....

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:48 pm That timing though...

I think this was something that might've spewed SPF town? I remember making this post because Wilgy states "SPF is a scumread" then I respond to Alexa saying I don't scumread SPF anymore after what Alison says, then Wilgy just 180's his read on her.

Which was why I posted those two right after.

Hold on...

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:50 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:50 pm i wont be able to post much tonight but ill have some time to post/look into the spew tomorrow. nanook is my strongest townread followed by lime coke followed by alexa but i havent sorted my thoughts out all that much beyond that
actually lime coke is my strongest townread in terms of actual confidence about his alignment, but i think nanook has been ~objectively~ townier lol

Blasphemy

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:36 pm Like I'm not particularly scumreading her but she claimed the nest read on wilgy in thread, town read him, and he flipped red

That doesn't make her scum by itself but it does mean she doesn't get to be in the town pile based on tone alone

I was mostly looking at her other reads such as the one she had on SPF talking about how she doesn't fake anger as mafia that looked fine, she had one discussing how Alexa was town for how she was interacting with SPF.

I get why you wouldn't want her in the town pile, and she's at the bottom for a reason.

Town:
Alexa
Nanook
Dizzy
SPF
Mac
Alison

Nanook and Mac look good forcing the wagon onto Wilgy, Alexa lock town per usual, and SPF and Alison are town based on how they were posting during Day 1.

I'll expand later when I get time.

I did not expect that death at all.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:38 pm Alright well thrilling EOD, but I'm fine with Wilgy going over because I think this can actually help me solve certain players in regards to how his flips.

Townreads:
Alexa
Dizzy
SPF
Illario
Alison
Nanook
Esooa

My main thought is that if Wilgy flips town then Esooa goes higher on the list, if he's mafia she's kind of stuck on that bottom spot and leaning back.

Top 4 is my most confident townreads.

Where I'm standing currently.

I'm staying on Wilgy. Other options aren't bad but this just feels better.

More confidence on Illario being town. Random thought.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:48 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:47 pm We can test my theory on SPF being mafia by CFD'ing her.
do it coward!

I'm still a coward.

We can test my theory on SPF being mafia by CFD'ing her.

Alright well thrilling EOD, but I'm fine with Wilgy going over because I think this can actually help me solve certain players in regards to how his flips.

Townreads:
Alexa
Dizzy
SPF
Illario
Alison
Nanook
Esooa

My main thought is that if Wilgy flips town then Esooa goes higher on the list, if he's mafia she's kind of stuck on that bottom spot and leaning back.

Top 4 is my most confident townreads.

Good god that PFP.

Gira wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:12 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:04 pm oh wait, gira thinks i'm wolf with wilgy for pushing on a villager i guess. i was considering TMI

so why me over like Mac/Nook then @Gira
what?

but...you're pushing on wilgy...

So are Mac and Nanook?

You even considering me to be mafia in general is a scum claim.

I MIGHT need to see something before making a judgment call...but I'm not revealing what it is until the time is right.

"Wilgy" got auto corrected to "Wolfy" on my phone and I'm taking that as a sign.

@Gira

Do you have any thoughts on Wilgy currently?

That was fake my vote is still on Wilgy.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:19 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:04 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:01 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:01 pm SPF town....
what changed your mind?
Just your recent string of posts and re-thinking things which look like normal town thought processes from you and per usual "taking stances" that I was mentioning earlier.
another successful pocket :P

[VOTE: SPF] aubergine

Gonna be kicking myself if you are mafia and I let you go, but at this rate I can't confidently call you mafia.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:01 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:01 pm SPF town....
what changed your mind?

Just your recent string of posts and re-thinking things which look like normal town thought processes from you and per usual "taking stances" that I was mentioning earlier.

SPF town....

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:42 pm
Anyway, good luck. Chop anyone but Lime tbh

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:39 pm Battery is low
Don’t know who to vote
This is not a haiku

Not Alexa, she's town.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:37 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:36 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:35 pm > oh good I have counterwagons
> they're two of my townreads
> oh no
Who would you prefer?

Did you see what Mac said?
Wilgy, obviously

If it's what I just quoted then yes

I used to be faster a few years ago. Aging has been slowing me down significantly.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:35 pm > oh good I have counterwagons
> they're two of my townreads
> oh no

Who would you prefer?

Did you see what Mac said?

@alexa

You're at 145 FYI.

Holy shit I got a really bad headache right now.

@fingersplints

I thought you were defending him or stating that you were townreading him. Sorry about that.

Honestly I just find him less towny than both the people I have as my townreads (obviously) and there's a few people that I'm having trouble finding reasons TO vote them.
Gira just has done the least and his stagnant vote is kind of showing me he's not trying to find mafia.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:48 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:40 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:38 pm People who are voting Gira - why?
Why not? What is he doing that's making himself towny?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:45 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:38 pm People who are voting Gira - why?
Do you have strong feelings on their slot?
They are second highest to nanook and just looking to see if I think that’s a good place to vote. I can’t remember their posts besides some in regards to me

So you think he's towny because you can't remember his posts?

WHAT!?

What kinda fucking read is this?

Jesus christ this game

fingersplints wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:38 pm People who are voting Gira - why?

Why not? What is he doing that's making himself towny?

fingersplints wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:33 pm [VOTE: alexa] aubergine

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:20 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:11 pm There a chance we miscleared Illario early?
i don't think so, i considered it for a moment because he hasn't been wilding out with reads as much as usual but i just opened his ISO and closed it immediately (the only time i've ever felt the need to really spend any time in detail on his ISO he was a wolf), his line about me/esooa /alison being villagers probably so he'd sleep or w/e was very towny and i think him clearing so many people is good too, this is not a lock town never rescind but like 95% he's a villager

I also have a headache and I need to go out to the store and I don't fucking want to.

No particular reason beyond "I fucked up somewhere since I don't feel like voting most of this game."

There a chance we miscleared Illario early?

I don't know what the hell to read Nanook as at this point. He's >rand at this point for me.

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:28 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:24 pm Town:
Alexa
Illario
Esooa
Alison
Dizzy

Most confident to least.
How are you so confident on Alexa?

Mine is
Town:
LC
SPF
Ilario
Alison
Esooa

Because I know how to read her.

Town:
Alexa
Illario
Esooa
Alison
Dizzy

Most confident to least.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:44 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:22 am @Lime Coke let me know if your feelings on SPF are still the same or not whenever you're around
There were a bit of times that I was kind of wavering in my tunnel on her, specifically the "you shouldn't have to be townreading me to try to work with me since that puts you into a conf-bias" post. Plus Alison mentioning that SPF responding with anger being town indicative for her is a decent point as well. At this rate I don't think she's mafia as much as I was last night.

I can't tell if it's me bitching out on scumreading her, or I was just wrong originally.
Also running out of confident enough options to vote out on Day 1.

By the way the other thing that kinda kills me is that the reason I got super excited last night was because it was the fact that reading someone's mafia game and using what I learned actually fucking worked for once for me and I actually had a mafia member immediately.
Now it's kind of pointing out that it was kind of useless and I'm salty over it.

@Dyslexicon

Who do you have as town currently?

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