The Syndicate

Like we're at mid game here what are you thinking right now Michelle?

Like I'm not giving up I'm still pushing forward with things but I'm actually at a point where I don't know what to do? I'm starting to realize that mid-game I have a hard time moving around with reads and evaluating there, normally start of games and endgames I'm good the middle I'm stuck.

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 1:49 am At the high resistance to chop her D1 I stopped to care about her alignament that much. I will just point at everyone who got cold feet and saved her.
Everyone who sheeped the anti Wilgy trend let me without my top town.

You just shrug and say you don't understand the kill.
Let's look at Syn and the reason why Abi votes for him
Why Epi and not Long Con?
I know why not me, because I was wrong.
And not you because of your defeatist attitude. Get rid of it and help me pls.

What questions do you have?
@Lime Coke

Well no I'm trying to understand why the kill was made and trying to figure what it means for the game.

I got my reads...granted it's mostly townreads, but I'm doing what I can.

I'm not gonna sit here and say the Wilgy yeet was good because it was awful and really my fault for jumping on him instead of listening to you.

Syn is possible just because of the fact that he lead the Wilgy wagon mostly and hard pushed him out...and Epi had him in his scumreads list.

I'd have to look at Long Con's reads and pushes the last two days and see how those look.

I was having them both in my towns throughout two days but the fact that I'm not night killed yet might point to one of them being maf and I was possibly pocketed if it's Long Con.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:23 am [VOTE: abby] aubergine

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:24 pm [VOTE: neon] aubergine





Someone tag Abi, and tell her she's been voted. Doesn't work on mobile for me

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:35 pm Gedna: S~V~S, Michelle, Long Con
Bradna: Syn, PA, sig

I don't think Syn's treatment of Wilgy was in good faith, and Syn's posts since exist to leave as many nebulous doors open as possible.

PA normally squirts juice at everyone and posts a lot.

Still think sig is bad.

Middle of page 9. Taking a break and will check back in before the votes lock.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 1:29 am Lynch sig and PA is my current stance. They are bradna. I'll finish reading tomorrow.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:57 am [VOTE: PA] aubergine

Still 9 pages behind. I will be able to get to those tomorrow. Sul sul bitches.

Literally the only read these two share is scumreading Abbi.

The rest of Falcon's sus's are dead.

What is happening?

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:46 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:45 am Okay night kills are throwing me off slightly.

Why?

Didn't think Epi was widely townread to the point of like you or I where we're not receiving any votes.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:31 pm I get the sense that Roxy is gedna.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:35 pm Gedna: S~V~S, Michelle, Long Con
Bradna: Syn, PA, sig

I don't think Syn's treatment of Wilgy was in good faith, and Syn's posts since exist to leave as many nebulous doors open as possible.

PA normally squirts juice at everyone and posts a lot.

Still think sig is bad.

Middle of page 9. Taking a break and will check back in before the votes lock.

I...don't think gedna means scumread? Seeing that he was voting Sig and Sig was in the other spot.

Okay night kills are throwing me off slightly.

Oh voted Epi before on Day 1 but that was kinda nothing.

Day 2 this was my first vote in the day.

I voted...who the fuck did I vote?

I voted Abbi because she wasn't doing anything.

Then switched to Wilgy last second trying to be the hero for a mafia yeet but you switched silently and he flipped town.

I don't think I voted anyone else ever?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 9:11 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:59 pm [VOTE: Sig] aubergine

Who were you on before this vote and what made you move to sig? I haven't got around to reading you yet so I want some context here.

I didn't vote until now because I was weighing my options.

Sig pushed Wilgy out...I literally don't remember him posting at all today compared to yesterday...Falcon also suspected him and was night killed.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:46 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:44 pm Really have nothing new to add.

Who would you vote for if you had to right now?

Between Sig of Daisy...leaning Sig.

@Long Con

Yeah my Michelle townread I could probably just like...set in stone and set it to never vote her at all this game. Her Day 1 was good, her Day 2 is basically clearing for her entirely. The passion she's putting into trying to solve into the Wilgy wagon and her being mad about it is pretty much what's setting that in.

That's just my two cents.

Really have nothing new to add.

Okay yeah Roxy town.

And yes it's probably been a long while since you've seen my town game. Wheels are finally turning for me this game.

Not exactly priority though.

Despite going with gimmick in the game I can't put Epi in my townreads. Unless like Sig flips mafia...or Abigail flips maf (think he pushed there?) Then I'd be fine with pulling back. Otherwise can be on the list of vote outs.

Dammit Syn I was doing a monologue.

After the Roxy iso I was gonna go into a speech about standards and practices.

Roxy iso I'm mixed on... feeling like her trying to understand reasoning on votes is a pretty good look though, analysis seems fine but something about it is messing with me, but that might be style difference.

So won't be voting today.

Spacedaisy's iso isn't exactly great.

But like that would mean 1 maf was hard pushing Wigy while the other just decided "let's hidden vote at the last second on the same guy."

Which wouldn't make sense.

So maybe just 1 in those 2 if we're lucky?

Sig and Spacedaisy maybe? Would it be that easy according to how today is going?

I gotta see what Sig does today. Day 1 I was kinda cool with letting him do what he was doing...

Of course this ended up looking stupid because I ended up voting Wilgy while I said I'd be fine letting him live to do the same thing.

But yeah Sig's main push WAS Wilgy so...

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:35 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:04 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:21 pm Town:
Michelle
LCx2
Falcon
Syn

Add SVS here maybe? Kinda liked the recent posts.

Right, so I just realized this plus me makes it 6.

If these 5 specifically are town then this game is basically a W for town.

It's like I'm a genius or something.

Reminding myself here with what I had Day 1.

I feel... fine still rolling with it? Falcon died so that kind of makes me feel fine with the results it's given me...sans Wilgy vote while he was outside the reads.

God part of me thinks that Syn's insistence on voting out Wilgy being fine to be town...or like fine with his decision but idk if I wanna reward that.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 1:57 am
Maybe you need to do NK analysis with a level of WIFOM. I think wolves rarely make kills that point directly to them.


From what I can tell, both Spacedaisy and Lime Coke thought they were breaking a three-way tie, or at least deciding the result?

I feel like WIFOM is even worse.


Also yeah speaking for myself I fully thought I was breaking the tie and was the deciding vote...was sorta hoping it would be me hammering mafia and clearing myself but didn't happen.

I'm not happy about that flip for obvious reasons. Literally just coming off of a loss I've been playing like complete shit lately but I legit don't know what to do to even get off of this or how to gain the headspace to dig into these games like I want to but...I legit just can't.

Also second guessing the Abbi vote but wish I kinda stayed there...but it wasn't going to matter anyways because Daisy hidden voted.

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:31 am Morning

sig wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:51 pm Imma vote [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

Both my wagon and the Abi wagons are dumb and based off very little. Which means to me they’re bad D1 wagons and mafia are probably on one or both

Brad I don't understand your vote on Wilgy.
You town read me, but you voted in my towncore with Sig, who tunneled me all day.
@Lime Coke

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:54 pm Lime Coke was on Abigail before switching to Wilgy at :59

Probably Wilgy kept a VC, if not I have one I can search for it

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:48 pmoopsies

I might've been trying to go for something spicy and letting someone else get their tunnel done and I was second guessing the Wilgy read.

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:09 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:55 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:52 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:05 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:25 pm Hi Lime Coke. How do you know you and Long Con are both civ?

I think maybe the Wilgy and Long Con stuff is a misunderstanding. Also I finally get Wilgy's logic and like what he is saying about Syn. It's at least enough for someone to use on D1 I guess anyway.

I have not ISOed sig, but I recall the vague impression sig was aggravated. I should probably ISO though. brb

Hokay. This is Daisys one thought on Wilgy. Then she came in and dropped a drive by vote on Wilgy, the only guy who was seriously trying to solve.

[VOTE: Daisy] aubergine

I didn't remember Daisy voting anyone. I then scrolled up to the VC and saw she stealth-voted.

Do we know when she did that? Was anyone here at EOD-ish checking? LC?

It was 3-3-3 with Abbi, Sig, and Wilgy.

And then someone jumped onto Wilgy while I was waiting between like...when I posted my last post until I voted Wilgy right at the final minute.

I think it was Spaced...legit I couldn't tell you exactly who it was my memory is not the best.

so sometime in the 11 minutes before EOD, Daisy voted for Wilgy and didn't make a post about it or anything else

Yup.

Sig was one, you were there obvs.

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:52 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:05 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:25 pm Hi Lime Coke. How do you know you and Long Con are both civ?

I think maybe the Wilgy and Long Con stuff is a misunderstanding. Also I finally get Wilgy's logic and like what he is saying about Syn. It's at least enough for someone to use on D1 I guess anyway.

I have not ISOed sig, but I recall the vague impression sig was aggravated. I should probably ISO though. brb

Hokay. This is Daisys one thought on Wilgy. Then she came in and dropped a drive by vote on Wilgy, the only guy who was seriously trying to solve.

[VOTE: Daisy] aubergine

I didn't remember Daisy voting anyone. I then scrolled up to the VC and saw she stealth-voted.

Do we know when she did that? Was anyone here at EOD-ish checking? LC?

It was 3-3-3 with Abbi, Sig, and Wilgy.

And then someone jumped onto Wilgy while I was waiting between like...when I posted my last post until I voted Wilgy right at the final minute.

I think it was Spaced...legit I couldn't tell you exactly who it was my memory is not the best.

I feel like anytime I've tried it, it's just sent me down the wrong path.

Well Falcon voted Sig.

After trying to use Night Kill Analysis and it failing me in Fallout...do I even bother with using it here?

I got 12 minutes if anyone else is around in the game...

More than likely Wilgy.

I might switch to Sig or Wilgy.

Mmmm...

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:53 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:39 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:38 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:36 am I would probably want 1 more townread to be good to go.

Yours or from me?

Well from me but I'm taking your townreads seriously.

Feel free to criticize them if you feel I am wrong

Too busy criticizing myself.

Unless we can request what hasn't been used yet then Swimming Pools by Kendrick Lamar is mine.

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:43 am we should threaten to chop Epi every day unless he records a cover of a Simlish song for us

Savior by Rise Against would be my request.

Also would feel bad Day 1'ing the guy that's using Sim language.

I just saw the Epi post about that...

[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

Makes me hesitant now.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:38 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:36 am I would probably want 1 more townread to be good to go.

Yours or from me?

Well from me but I'm taking your townreads seriously.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:36 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:26 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:24 am This is the game where I will not to do much because I don't have time (until weekend, at least) but also I don't have to, because I have a pretty solid town core.

SVS is also out of 'who I would chop toDay' list.

Wait who's all in that?

Based on my memory me, you, Long Con, Wilgy, Roxy, adding SVS for that post.
Idk if Sin is making that push as a wolf, I don’t like the read but also he seems confident he can read me, which is untrue but also what if his impression is true for him?
Also I think I like Syn, passed the vibe test.
Last 2 out of town core.
I am probably very generous with the reads, but also this feels like a light game so it's ok for D1

Okay, I like it and can play with that core.

I would probably want 1 more townread to be good to go.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:04 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:21 pm Town:
Michelle
LCx2
Falcon
Syn

Add SVS here maybe? Kinda liked the recent posts.

Right, so I just realized this plus me makes it 6.

If these 5 specifically are town then this game is basically a W for town.

It's like I'm a genius or something.