The Syndicate

I GUESS I'LL TAKE THAT!?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:35 pm Well, this is disappointing. This rivals Nanook's slanking achievement in Beans Mafia, but that was much more enjoyable because I was Mafia with him.

I mean...

Who cares if it's vague as long as it's right.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 7:28 pm Good question. @Lime Coke And why are you sure it's Long Con and not me?

Recency bias I think your Day...4 interaction with me made me feel like you were actually trying to solve me and not shut me out or force "gotcha" moments onto me.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 5:05 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 4:10 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 8:39 am Argh, I hate Brad's tone. It's so meek and lacks any urgency.

I feel like this is a gut or logic situation.
The best I can do is 1. Hopefully figure out which one is mafia and if I'm right 2. Try to convince you to stay on LC and that I'm town.

Hopefully 1 is happened and I can just focus on 2 if you have more questions I'd answer them.
Where were you yesterday?

Multiple turbos and Aro's podcast about MU turbos which made me forget about this.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 8:39 am Argh, I hate Brad's tone. It's so meek and lacks any urgency.

I feel like this is a gut or logic situation.

The best I can do is 1. Hopefully figure out which one is mafia and if I'm right 2. Try to convince you to stay on LC and that I'm town.

Hopefully 1 is happened and I can just focus on 2 if you have more questions I'd answer them.

If I'm wrong then I don't know what to do.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

I'm actually just going to go here.

Daisy I think your day LAST day phase was really good and I appreciate at least being real with me and not just tunneling me out. Your attempts to talk to me weren't just you pushing me into gotcha attempts or reading what I was responding with in bad faith...which is what I usually expect out of people.

So yeah I'm voting Long Con today.

I don't know how else to do this but Daisy makes a good point...and I already stated maybe Long Con since I was townreading him and he's survived forever.

Because boy has night kill analysis worked for me in the past few games.

Well uh...I have no idea how we got there but we got there.

Sorry for no showing legit I'm kinda horrible for this game but luckily whoever was town got there.

I apologize for not making an appearance throughout Sunday but DST and a migraine kinda fucked me.

Actually I just sneezed 8 times can we go back to townreading me?

I somewhat need sleep too and I'm busy until like 4 eastern for me so I'll try to talk to you later.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 7:01 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 6:55 am
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 6:54 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 6:46 am You said I changed my vote already, I didn't change my vote until :59.
You posted at :59, but when I pressed the vote button and it refreshed the votes were already different. I voted first and then tried to post, unsuccessfully. Someone else had moved onto Wilgy before me. But as I point out later in my many posts from tonight your move onto Wilgy is the biggest indicator that you might actually be civ. I just don't understand why you acted as if you didn't know who had broken the tie, when you must have known. And btw, I thought you moved from Abigail, but she still has three, so someone moved onto her too. I would say I need to see who, but all her voters were civ so it doesn't really matter.

Are you lying about seeing my vote in there before you voted?
No I 100% believe I saw you voting before I changed my vote.
Saw me voting, what does that mean exactly? That you saw me in the thread? Yeah, I was in the thread. I came in at 3 minutes prior to the deadline and I was going back and forth about Wilgy and sig. I believe it was 9:58 when I pushed the submit button on my Wilgy vote, though I can't say that with certainty. I just know it was 9:59 when I was trying to bang out a quick post to declare my vote in thread, but I wasn't able to submit that in time.

I saw you voted on the poll itself before I changed my vote.

Like not being a miselim...yes I can 100% see that because I rarely get miselimmed.

Not able too convince me to vote wrongly... that's maybe more what I fit into.

Like you're right I haven't lead the game in anyway... but the last like 2 games have been like that for me.
I don't feel comfortable leading the game unless I have a scumread I'm decently confident in... and that doesn't happen often.
The only other time is if I need to defend a townread from others and try to wagon someone else.

But yeah clearly seeing my reads and votes being pure trash I definitely belong here.

I want to say something regarding the voting but it feels cheap.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 6:54 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 6:46 am You said I changed my vote already, I didn't change my vote until :59.
You posted at :59, but when I pressed the vote button and it refreshed the votes were already different. I voted first and then tried to post, unsuccessfully. Someone else had moved onto Wilgy before me. But as I point out later in my many posts from tonight your move onto Wilgy is the biggest indicator that you might actually be civ. I just don't understand why you acted as if you didn't know who had broken the tie, when you must have known. And btw, I thought you moved from Abigail, but she still has three, so someone moved onto her too. I would say I need to see who, but all her voters were civ so it doesn't really matter.

Are you lying about seeing my vote in there before you voted?

No I 100% believe I saw you voting before I changed my vote.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 2:16 am In situation like this, where if we mislim the mafia win, it's not about who is out, it's about who is still in. They want to keep people in that will be one of two things:

1. Easy to misliim
2. Easy to convince to vote a mislim

So I know why I'm here. I'm an easy mislim. Why are you still here Long Con? And SVS?

I'll be reading you guys next. But Long Con, if you are town, and they kept you alive because your opinion will make it easy to sway you into a mislim, then we have to ask who would that be? Seems SVS to me. But that would mean both you and SVS are civ and make the team Roxy and Lime Coke and I don't think Roxy is bad.

If it's SVS that has been kept in for her strong opinion, then it would have to be me they will try to swing a mislim on. And that would make the team either you and Lime Coke, or Roxy and Lime Coke. And again, I don't think Roxy is bad.

Neither Roxy nor Lime Coke have come out strong enough to be evaluated against this.

Are you saying I'm neither of these two?

Like off the top of my head Long Con maybe because I've townread him mostly through this and neither of us are dead.

The funny thing is that I think I've always heard about him being a great player.

I think I've maybe played 4 or 5 games with him I don't have a single idea of his skill level still because I think we've always been on opposite sides or threads.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 6:45 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 6:43 am Nah I'm done catching up it was mostly you since day start if you got questions I'll try to answer.
Lime Coke, if you are fucking civ then read all the posts because I didn't talk just about you! You get back in here and help because if you are civ and vote me, we're done, game over. Engage in this game if you are civ!

I am trying. Idk what else to do at this rate.

You said I changed my vote already, I didn't change my vote until :59.

Nah I'm done catching up it was mostly you since day start if you got questions I'll try to answer.

Like literally the best I've got is Daisy maf for reasons I've explained.

If not then I hate this game.

Was kinda wishing maf would take pity and shoot me in the night but they're making the right call by keeping me around because I'm at a point where I'm gonna swing multiple teams again and end up on the wrong vote.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 10:59 pm [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

I made my vote here.

Daisy was on the Wilgy wagon right before.

I already made that explanation Day 2 when I said I wanted to be the hero to vote Wilgy if he flipped mafia with 3-3-3 wagons before.
Of course he was town but yeah.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 12:32 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:55 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:52 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:05 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:25 pm Hi Lime Coke. How do you know you and Long Con are both civ?

I think maybe the Wilgy and Long Con stuff is a misunderstanding. Also I finally get Wilgy's logic and like what he is saying about Syn. It's at least enough for someone to use on D1 I guess anyway.

I have not ISOed sig, but I recall the vague impression sig was aggravated. I should probably ISO though. brb
Hokay. This is Daisys one thought on Wilgy. Then she came in and dropped a drive by vote on Wilgy, the only guy who was seriously trying to solve.

[VOTE: Daisy] aubergine
I didn't remember Daisy voting anyone. I then scrolled up to the VC and saw she stealth-voted.

Do we know when she did that? Was anyone here at EOD-ish checking? LC?
It was 3-3-3 with Abbi, Sig, and Wilgy.

And then someone jumped onto Wilgy while I was waiting between like...when I posted my last post until I voted Wilgy right at the final minute.

I think it was Spaced...legit I couldn't tell you exactly who it was my memory is not the best.
Sus, man. While I voted last minute, and the vote was tied before I cast my vote, once it processed as cast, the moves of other people (Lime Coke being one) had already happened from the look of the vote numbers when the page refreshed after I submitted. I think I cast my vote at like 9:58 maybe? I was trying to type up a quick post at 9:59 to explain my vote, but when I submitted the post, it was the deadline exactly and the thread was closed.

Actually yeah this is sorta a lie because I knew Daisy switched before my vote because literally her name was on the poll before I changed.

Of course you can't check that but literally I'm posting in the final minute so yeah.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 12:08 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:07 pm [VOTE: Princess Agibail] aubergine
Why?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 10:42 pm I might switch to Sig or Wilgy.
But why?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 10:48 pm More than likely Wilgy.
Again, why?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 10:59 pm [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine
Whhhhyyyyyy?

Why did no one ask him to explain his votes. You jump on me for drive by voting and not explaining when I literally had no time to but no one bothered to ask Lime Coke why he voted abi, why he would probably switch, and why he chose Wilgy to switch to? I hope as I move forward in the ISO I find someone who does eventually ask. You should have asked him at this point. Forced him to take some kind of stand instead of letting him ride the trains.

I answered all of these...at least the Wilgy vote, in my iso.
I believe I explained the Abbi vote as well.

Which is a rough sign when you do research but your asking questions that if you did your research you would know.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2024 11:46 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:05 am Thar leaves me with...

Epi
Abbi
Roxy
Spacedaisy

Kind of in my poe...or list of who I'd vote today?
Day 1 PoE contains all people I know are civs, save Roxy.

This is actually a good point.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2024 11:52 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:35 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:04 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:21 pm Town:
Michelle
LCx2
Falcon
Syn
Add SVS here maybe? Kinda liked the recent posts.
Right, so I just realized this plus me makes it 6.

If these 5 specifically are town then this game is basically a W for town.

It's like I'm a genius or something.
I like that he questioned his PoE/town core a bit here. But it depends on what he does with it from there.

Right now I say, if Lime Coke is wolf, I lean either Roxy or SVS (who he added as an afterthought) as his partner.

Continuing ISO. I'm going to try and treat everyone left with one before the day is over.

Like I don't get where I questioned my towncore here if anything I was trying to solidify and find something to run with most of the game.

Like so much of it is misinterpretation. Most of it feels blatant.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 12:03 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:55 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:53 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:39 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:38 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:36 am I would probably want 1 more townread to be good to go.
Yours or from me?
Well from me but I'm taking your townreads seriously.
Feel free to criticize them if you feel I am wrong
Too busy criticizing myself.
Where did he criticize his own or anyone else's reads? Nowhere that I see.

Like literally this is like... awful.

Literally me saying I'm criticizing myself is me being in my own head talking about how much I suck because of my reads being inconsistent in terms of accuracy over the past month of playing mafia.

It's a mental issue about myself playing mafia.

Oh god why and do I bother responding to these?

They mostly feel like they're overly stepping in terms of reasons and a lot of me wants to vote you, mostly because the "I'm still reading" before voting sleep felt oddly fake.

[VOTE: sleep] aubergine

In terms of what I'm thinking as of this moment.

Uhhh you can discuss if you want tbh.

Like it depends on how you like to play it.

Personally I prefer to not say anything and go right to sleep, including everyone else.

However I haven't played in a way that makes me think saying nothing and sleeping straight forward will benefit me.

I'm totally fine with using the whole time to discuss (Granted I don't think hammer exists in this game) so yeah.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 6:06 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 3:02 am We sleep today yeah?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 3:09 am Oh uh...yeah I guess we do.
OK, I just saw this in Jays recent game, and asked about it in the chat.

It is something I am unfamiliar with, and don't totally understand. Choosing not to eliminate someone at this point, I mean.

Elimination is the towns only tool, and I don't understand giving it up (although with both Daisy and Roxy finding LC's case to be so compelling, I can see that I might be on the menu today) and allowing the wolves another NK. I think it's a maths thing, right?

Thanks!

Yeahhh it's still even number, 6, and choosing sleep here will make it Final 5.

And since it's mountainous and only 2 mafia we're safe to do it here.

Oh uh...yeah I guess we do.

Kay, ya'know I was thinking she was a wolf and yeah...she flipped.

That was literally my last "I might have something" thought process.

Mmmm okay. Can roll with that.

Oh hello SVS.

Still as lost as before.

LC who do you have as town at this rate?

Oh btw Michelle sign up for Gen 3 Pokemash on MU pls.

The rest of you can join as well if interested I just know Michelle has played the last 2.

[VOTE: Spaceddaisy] aubergine

Might change idk.

I'll try to make 1 more appearance tomorrow between like 3 to 5 PM my time and then I'm gone and more than likely won't be home or on here unless it's like last minutes of EOD.

If y'all don't think this is it then let me know why and I'll consider it... and we all just want consideration don't we?

Reading SVS iso I'm having a hard time seeing him as maf.

Bleh whatever.

We can start with Michelle still my townread.

Abigail I'm throwing as a townread why the fuck not at this rate.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:26 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:16 am I'm waiting for you to say your reads because I'm making sure you're still solving so I can still townread you. You spent majority of SOD telling others what to do so I was interested in if you had opinions.
No, that's bad.
I need you to not question me but solve with me.
My reads are under construction anyway.

Well I caught you when you were wolf last time (though I hesitated) because you weren't solving once Day 2 hit so I was making sure to keep that townread in tact.

I'm not gonna blindly keep the read I'm still gonna nudge you if I notice something.

I'm waiting for you to say your reads because I'm making sure you're still solving so I can still townread you. You spent majority of SOD telling others what to do so I was interested in if you had opinions.

Hmmm...

Eh SVS feels fine still.

Okay looking forward to it...ping me when you post it.

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