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why is mac a wolfEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:31 amWe've been actively trying to get each other flipped at multiple points today.
Or at least I have. Can't actually tell if Mac is being fully serious or not.
why?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:04 amMac/Me as a pairing.
what's so funny?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:55 amLmao.
still don't believe ur conviction that i'm a wolfMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:51 pm I am voting transcend and will continue to until this day ends. If you think I bus my only other partner in 9v2 mountainous then good for you.
staticMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:49 pmmy scumteam is literally wiml/transcend who is my partner exactly?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:54 pm Wiml still a good target. Was misrepresenting me and implying he had good read on me until I called bullshit
why is it bad defenseEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:40 pmBad defense.
But that being said I think Mac is wolf which makes you townier.
this feels kinda level 0 but i still think ur town after rring
toying with ender/mac rn but i'll let u know my final solve with detailed reads after i'm done with like the last 6 pages
ewEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:54 pm Wiml still a good target. Was misrepresenting me and implying he had good read on me until I called bullshit
this would be a good conclusion if i didn't explain the "vibez" a bit more in the next postAlison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:52 pmTurbo open wolfing.Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:16 amVibez lolalexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:15 amhow come you townread ilario so confidently
i feel like he's obvtown now but he wasn't immediately. and i know v!you would naturally have some concerns regarding his wolf range? actually this reminds me i have some meta i need to investigate for you
idk? lol
townyNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:19 pm All three designated miskills voting together
You love to see it
tr this post slightly
oh okNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:09 amIdr sheeping herTranscend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:04 amthis is some pretty strong conviction when initially u were just sheeping alexa...NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:45 pmIdk sounds like beginners luck cause I'm p sure he's mafiaWiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:44 pmOh that makes more sense as well lol (even though it's not actually a tell for me tbh). I'd gathered for sure it was to do with reads and the rest I assumed based on the conversations we had in the 2+2 game.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:39 pmYou abused the secret meta-read but it wasn't read formation/effort.Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:35 pmI thought you'd realised lol but I knew the secret town tell you had on me was a read formation / effort tell and that's why I abused it so hard in Scythe lol.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:19 pm
There is no towntell you have made so far that I am not sure you could replicate as mafia.
That being said I'm not a super good meta-reader so who knows. I might be in whiplash from the Scythe sweep.
But to call it a lie is a little disingenuous. Almost seems agenda-y
Which makes it funnier that you turned it against me without properly working out what it was I was trying to read you on.
(Your town games, or some of them, had a level of "Reads confusion" where your scum games had a level of surety to the reads. Obviously not as ironclad of a read as I thought it was lmao.)
If that's your actual towntell read on me this game then I think that makes more sense lol. But alexa and illario (who was bunnyhunter in Anni) are both easy town reads tbh.
Speaking of illario, if anybody has any doubts about me being able to read him I was so confident on him being town in anni that I called out a fake red peek on him.
I made a joke about defend voting her but
Thats not the same thing
good reads thoEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:06 pm At least the LC being obv town is just easy pickings.
TSP is probably just town.
Iliario is an easy townread too.
this is scummy slightlyEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:00 pm The fact that I have three strong townreads already concerns me.
forced lol
this is some pretty strong conviction when initially u were just sheeping alexa...NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:45 pmIdk sounds like beginners luck cause I'm p sure he's mafiaWiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:44 pmOh that makes more sense as well lol (even though it's not actually a tell for me tbh). I'd gathered for sure it was to do with reads and the rest I assumed based on the conversations we had in the 2+2 game.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:39 pmYou abused the secret meta-read but it wasn't read formation/effort.Wiml wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:35 pmI thought you'd realised lol but I knew the secret town tell you had on me was a read formation / effort tell and that's why I abused it so hard in Scythe lol.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:19 pmThere is no towntell you have made so far that I am not sure you could replicate as mafia.
That being said I'm not a super good meta-reader so who knows. I might be in whiplash from the Scythe sweep.
But to call it a lie is a little disingenuous. Almost seems agenda-y
Which makes it funnier that you turned it against me without properly working out what it was I was trying to read you on.
(Your town games, or some of them, had a level of "Reads confusion" where your scum games had a level of surety to the reads. Obviously not as ironclad of a read as I thought it was lmao.)
If that's your actual towntell read on me this game then I think that makes more sense lol. But alexa and illario (who was bunnyhunter in Anni) are both easy town reads tbh.
Speaking of illario, if anybody has any doubts about me being able to read him I was so confident on him being town in anni that I called out a fake red peek on him.
but u seem to make several suggestions that treat me as 100% wolf
uhAlison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:59 am Transcend has now called two people "really good" at reading him. I believe this to be a pocket attempt. Frankly if I was a townie being run down by the rest of the game and the people that usually shield me are turning against me, I would suspect them of being wolves in on it. But no. He pleads with them and towncores them. This is a pocket.
why not? lol do u know our history?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:56 am Transcend playing into "Esooa reads me well" doesn't sit as well with me. Hmm.
it guts me that you think i'm a wolf here and others don't cause you're REALLY GOOD at reading meilario wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:56 am Crackpot theory #2 - in a world where lime was just the push that Matt kept trying to push through to force a misyeet I actually think mac can potentially be Matt’s partners
Here’s why:
At the start of the day mac spent a good deal trying to push through a yeet on either wiml or myself. The wiml yeet picked up no traction and despite people being wary of him, wiml never got any significant amount of votes to look like he was going over d1. Similarly, I got some votes but they’re mostly from people who are barely reading the game, and I have enough slots strongly townreading me that I’m not ever at risk.
Whilst all this was happening, suspicion was building on transcend in the background from slots such as Alison, myself and a few others.
I think it’s possible that mac never really had a plan that he hoped to unveil at eod and was merely trying to push a misyeet into wiml or myself but once he realised that isn’t the case and that transcend might be yeeted anyways he decided the best course of action would be to just bus his partner so Atleast he gets enough towncred to have a chance of trying to endgame himself.
My doubts to this theory to stem in the fact that I found his engagement of me to be quite towny when we were interacting yesterday and he’s said lines that I’ve only ever said myself when I’m town. But with Alison saying she’s seen him say the same comments as scum then this starts to matter less, and I do think he does look worse the more I start to believe wiml is reaching lock town territory.
cause you caught me as wolf in all those games?Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:54 amwhy do you think I'm good at reading you?Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:00 am your engagement with me is super super towny and i'm unot treating your tr on me as tmi cause you are actually REALLY good at reading me
tony just seems like an archetype townie. he's not really controlling the narrative which scum SHOULD do, and he's outed thoughts here and there that look villagery.
u owed the game nothing?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:53 amYeah I felt like I owed the game some normal content.Transcend wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:49 amthis post has mad hedge and some of the reads actually feel kinda generic and clicheMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:42 am In spite of anything I've said to this point the only people I have confident townreads on are esooa and alexa.
I have seen some townie thinking from ilario and also feel he is in a slot where he is probably either spewed town or being townread by someone I should sheep.
I feel as though Alison is probably >rand town for attacking me but if she was a wolf her tactics for dealing with me given recent games are a little hard to anticipate. She is very gamer.
My TSP read is very flawed. Don't humour it or let anyone humour it at all. It's a nothing read. Just a town ping.
I have that piss poor one post Nook read.
Lime Coke feels very different to the wolf I just played a deep game against. It's not a great read if he is remotely good at mafia.
I kinda think Ender is townie for a couple of bad reasons.
I have found wiml and transcend more wolfy than town in pretty major ways. I don't vibe a lot of what they are putting down.
this post is just really bad. was i supposed to vote you while you were openwolfing? i read it as null if not slightly towny. same w/ everyone else. why would u want the attention on u. this feels kinda forced.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:47 amBeyond the self admitted scumminess. I think you have been a little too eager to push onto people for minor flags. You've come across a little bit like you have the mischop in mind. For instance the way you pushed Ender while I was openwolfing.Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:43 amWhy am i wolfyMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:42 am In spite of anything I've said to this point the only people I have confident townreads on are esooa and alexa.
I have seen some townie thinking from ilario and also feel he is in a slot where he is probably either spewed town or being townread by someone I should sheep.
I feel as though Alison is probably >rand town for attacking me but if she was a wolf her tactics for dealing with me given recent games are a little hard to anticipate. She is very gamer.
My TSP read is very flawed. Don't humour it or let anyone humour it at all. It's a nothing read. Just a town ping.
I have that piss poor one post Nook read.
Lime Coke feels very different to the wolf I just played a deep game against. It's not a great read if he is remotely good at mafia.
I kinda think Ender is townie for a couple of bad reasons.
I have found wiml and transcend more wolfy than town in pretty major ways. I don't vibe a lot of what they are putting down.
this post has mad hedge and some of the reads actually feel kinda generic and clicheMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:42 am In spite of anything I've said to this point the only people I have confident townreads on are esooa and alexa.
I have seen some townie thinking from ilario and also feel he is in a slot where he is probably either spewed town or being townread by someone I should sheep.
I feel as though Alison is probably >rand town for attacking me but if she was a wolf her tactics for dealing with me given recent games are a little hard to anticipate. She is very gamer.
My TSP read is very flawed. Don't humour it or let anyone humour it at all. It's a nothing read. Just a town ping.
I have that piss poor one post Nook read.
Lime Coke feels very different to the wolf I just played a deep game against. It's not a great read if he is remotely good at mafia.
I kinda think Ender is townie for a couple of bad reasons.
I have found wiml and transcend more wolfy than town in pretty major ways. I don't vibe a lot of what they are putting down.
idk this vote feels kinda opportunisticMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:58 am[VOTE: transcend] aubergineTranscend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:58 amYeahMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:57 amdo you think this post you just made is scummy looking?Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:56 amYeahMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:55 amdo you consider yourself a good Mafioso?Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:53 am How do i make an entrance without it being wolfy af
I've been speccing all night since i'm a pos that can't sleep like a normal human being
I said i wouldn't post for 8 hours because i'm already at 200 posts but idrc anymore
Ilario and mac are both town
Wiml is meh.
I really fucking hate that I have all this attention on me but the only ppl that have actually attempted to explain their suspicion on me are alison and alexa.
And yes I scum read brad. I'm challenging the thread on that. I don't give a fuck. He's not tt for shit yet and I'm actively pursuing this read until he gives me a reason to believe he's not in his scum range.
okAlison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:37 amWhy?
I have had plenty of town games where the game felt easy, everyone converged on a consensus, and we flipped five mafia in a row.
Coincidentally those happened to be games where there were a lot of strong players. Enough of them rolled town and we just descended on the wolves. The ones that rolled scum were forced to bus. This game seems to suit that archetype, and I have had no discouraging green flips to show me otherwise. If you have a green role card, perhaps you believe the game is in trouble, but until I see that card, I have no reason to believe this.
this looks bad if i think we're both townMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:47 am I want to kill transcend and wiml in any order d1 and d2 personally
