The Syndicate

Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 8:31 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 8:27 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 8:26 pm Maybe Creature and or LP as wolf.
Interesting timing you have.
Am I correct?

Well your non-commitle nature and neeko's lack of a check on Creature leaves this question unanswerable.
But Neeko did just make a post on Porscha and you being Mafia, so interesting timing to say Neeko is scum without addressing it.

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 8:30 pm Welp we better now win the walrus

Well neeko's taste in music sucks so good luck to everyone else.

Belzy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 8:26 pm Maybe Creature and or LP as wolf.

Interesting timing you have.

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 8:21 pm does anyone have a day vig please

Neeko did not win the contest sadly.

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 8:07 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:55 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:41 pm Seanzie ( 7 ): Urist, NotAnAxehole, Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, nutella
DrWilgy ( 6 ): sabie, dyachei, ender, seanzie, radishes, c4
NotAnAxehole ( 4 ): Guillotine, alexa, Phil and Gloria, ilario
EnderWiggin ( 3 ): dyslexicon, jpic, falcon
112 ( 1 ): Sloonei
falcon45ca ( 1 ): 112
Porscha ( 1 ): linearpoint
sig ( 1 ): hollowkatt
Not Voting ( 3 ): Creature, sig, porscha
So 5 unconfirmed on the top 2 wagons with the top 6 flipping Green (minus Wiggly)
Either all wagons were wrong and Mafia decided to just not care who they voted or that means one of Wiggly or Porscha are Mafia.
Right now, Neeko is leaning a bit more on the possibility that none of those wagons were Mafia.

Working under the above assumption:
Working Mafia team may be: TSP, Mac, Paopan, Porscha, and 1 of Alexa/belzy.
Paopan did a lot of vote switting end of day and drove the wagon off TSP who was 4th highest at the time onto Wiggly so Paopan and Wiggly are never Mafia togther and it looks like Paopan is scummier than Wiggly.
Mac's been shieldng TSP hard so obviously Mac.
Porscha since neeko's had suspicions on them ever since Neeko's initial scum read was so easily dismissed and the wagon on Porscha day 1 vanished instantly.
Belzy has been defending Porscha a lot with no real reason that Neeko has seen, so if one is Mafia both are Mafia.
Alexa was trying to push NAA wagon EoD. So was ilario but ilario shot Mafia.

Still having trouble really reading Sloonei and Creature, but both felt town from yesterday.
JPIC is also a null read still as Neeko hasn't felt strongly Town or Mafia on them all game. If neeko is wrong about one of the above them this might be the last Mafia.
okay well idk why there is dichotomy between me and wilgy from wagon voting when eod 1 I was not being wagon'd at all and you were still the only vote on me. even c4 didnt bother putting vote on me and you were entirely riding off his read of me
also it's been made clear that the reason belzy is clearing me is due to mech. understandable to read us as a potential pair but idk why you're assuming it's automatically wolfy. I guess you're doing that b/c you are *still* trying to make a push on me based on c4's push on me day1 just because I came into thread late and apologized 1 too many times for not being caught up. maybe it was easily dismissed b/c it isn't a strong read on me that proves anything about me being wolfy. I think you are gut reading me incorrectly or you are one of the possible wolves who will come for me via day lynch as I said they would. I bet you'd really like to know my role so you could nk me - like your push suggests - but you don't so you will try to day lynch me instead. I am an amateur forum mafia player, participating in a huge game where I have not played with a majority of the players here, I am feeling nervous in my reads and that the thread moves a million miles an hour is difficult as well. I think you - all of us - should spend more time evaluating one of the 5 vigi claims since that's obviously has wolf in it. unless you are a wolf of course - then you would have no interest in evaluating that situation :^)

You've not had good posts and seem to just be riding on Belzy softing they had a green peak on you D1 and acting like it is true even though Belzy never commited to saying so just saying that they know you're Town. You've been slanking, you've not bee helping Town, and the more time that passes the less believable Belzy is with you being lock Town. Neeko made her own post on why she thought you were scum from your D1 posts an dyou're ignoring it completely and trying to dismiss it as just going off of c4's reads. You have yet to make one singular post that makes me think you are Town. Belzy's mech clear be damned it was probably made up anyways and you're just assuming that was even belzy's inention (assuming Belzy and you are not both Mafia). Neeko has also made numerous posts about her opinion on the vigilante claims and does believe WCS one of Dya and Ilario are a 3p and Sabie is pretty much guaranteed to be Town Vigilante. You're also disregarding that one of the 5 claims has already flipped wolf and hte other 2 vigilante claims have shot mafia or is Sabie who Neeko explicitly doesn't see as Mafia.

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 8:06 pm ok i'm here

this game has stressed me out a lot and i didn't really do anything to think about it overnight

Mac feels pretty villagery this SOD so maybe i'm wrong on that read

i'm going to assume that i was the wolf shot, but i don't necessarily means that meant i had a lot of good reads tbh

Why do you think wolves shot you?

So your response to having it pointed out you wanted the wagon to go off of TSP is to say others were doing it to?
That doesn't change the fact you were against lynching TSP and pushing people to unvote TSP.
You were the most vocal about it.

Paopan wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:58 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:55 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:41 pm Seanzie ( 7 ): Urist, NotAnAxehole, Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, nutella
DrWilgy ( 6 ): sabie, dyachei, ender, seanzie, radishes, c4
NotAnAxehole ( 4 ): Guillotine, alexa, Phil and Gloria, ilario
EnderWiggin ( 3 ): dyslexicon, jpic, falcon
112 ( 1 ): Sloonei
falcon45ca ( 1 ): 112
Porscha ( 1 ): linearpoint
sig ( 1 ): hollowkatt
Not Voting ( 3 ): Creature, sig, porscha
So 5 unconfirmed on the top 2 wagons with the top 6 flipping Green (minus Wiggly)
Either all wagons were wrong and Mafia decided to just not care who they voted or that means one of Wiggly or Porscha are Mafia.
Right now, Neeko is leaning a bit more on the possibility that none of those wagons were Mafia.

Working under the above assumption:
Working Mafia team may be: TSP, Mac, Paopan, Porscha, and 1 of Alexa/belzy.
Paopan did a lot of vote switting end of day and drove the wagon off TSP who was 4th highest at the time onto Wiggly so Paopan and Wiggly are never Mafia togther and it looks like Paopan is scummier than Wiggly.
Mac's been shieldng TSP hard so obviously Mac.
Porscha since neeko's had suspicions on them ever since Neeko's initial scum read was so easily dismissed and the wagon on Porscha day 1 vanished instantly.
Belzy has been defending Porscha a lot with no real reason that Neeko has seen, so if one is Mafia both are Mafia.
Alexa was trying to push NAA wagon EoD. So was ilario but ilario shot Mafia.

Still having trouble really reading Sloonei and Creature, but both felt town from yesterday.
JPIC is also a null read still as Neeko hasn't felt strongly Town or Mafia on them all game. If neeko is wrong about one of the above them this might be the last Mafia.
Huh? Read my ISO
When did pushed the wagon off TSP???

You really want Neeko to answer that?

Paopan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:40 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:39 pm I unvoted Sabie and Sig. I'm having voters block. SOMEONE GIVE ME PILLS!!!
THIIIS IS SOOO ANTI-TOWNY.
Let's lynch this instead

Paopan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:47 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:46 pm [VOTE: UNVOTE TSP VOTE 112] aubergine
Both are scummmyyy IMO

But why 112 > TSP?

Paopan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:51 pm Okay guys. Save TSP. Get wigly and 112

All shortly after you voted TSP then unvoted TSP.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:41 pm Seanzie ( 7 ): Urist, NotAnAxehole, Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, nutella
DrWilgy ( 6 ): sabie, dyachei, ender, seanzie, radishes, c4
NotAnAxehole ( 4 ): Guillotine, alexa, Phil and Gloria, ilario
EnderWiggin ( 3 ): dyslexicon, jpic, falcon
112 ( 1 ): Sloonei
falcon45ca ( 1 ): 112
Porscha ( 1 ): linearpoint
sig ( 1 ): hollowkatt
Not Voting ( 3 ): Creature, sig, porscha

So 5 unconfirmed on the top 2 wagons with the top 6 flipping Green (minus Wiggly)
Either all wagons were wrong and Mafia decided to just not care who they voted or that means one of Wiggly or Porscha are Mafia.
Right now, Neeko is leaning a bit more on the possibility that none of those wagons were Mafia.

Working under the above assumption:
Working Mafia team may be: TSP, Mac, Paopan, Porscha, and 1 of Alexa/belzy.
Paopan did a lot of vote switting end of day and drove the wagon off TSP who was 4th highest at the time onto Wiggly so Paopan and Wiggly are never Mafia togther and it looks like Paopan is scummier than Wiggly.
Mac's been shieldng TSP hard so obviously Mac.
Porscha since neeko's had suspicions on them ever since Neeko's initial scum read was so easily dismissed and the wagon on Porscha day 1 vanished instantly.
Belzy has been defending Porscha a lot with no real reason that Neeko has seen, so if one is Mafia both are Mafia.
Alexa was trying to push NAA wagon EoD. So was ilario but ilario shot Mafia.

Still having trouble really reading Sloonei and Creature, but both felt town from yesterday.
JPIC is also a null read still as Neeko hasn't felt strongly Town or Mafia on them all game. If neeko is wrong about one of the above them this might be the last Mafia.

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:41 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:40 pm Honestly there may be some merit to Dya being an overconfident Serial Killer with how they played D2 with their town cred for killing a Mafia.
I will only bother with unconfirmed third party when all wolves are gone.

Yeah just don't really think a Mafia Dayvig shooting Mafia makes sense in a 7 Mafia team with the amount of other dayvigs and nightvigs running around.

Honestly there may be some merit to Dya being an overconfident Serial Killer with how they played D2 with their town cred for killing a Mafia.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:37 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:35 pm I think TSP was the only wolf among yesterday's top 8
TSP voted up Sabie to be in top 8, but not Wiggly.
So Wiggly might still be Mafia, but this seems like the reasonable assumption TSP might be the only Mafia.

But then again TSP did vote wiggly in top 4 so probably that Wiggly isn't Mafia.

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:35 pm I think TSP was the only wolf among yesterday's top 8

TSP voted up Sabie to be in top 8, but not Wiggly.
So Wiggly might still be Mafia, but this seems like the reasonable assumption TSP might be the only Mafia.

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:34 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:33 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:32 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:31 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:29 pm I think it should be 11 v 5 now if there are no 3ps left. Still we should avoid claiming because soup.
Pretty sure falcon's the only claim so far.
So assuming Dizzy's check is still alive they have 2 soup kills at the moment.
it'll be 11 v 4 so they'd have to soup 7 people to win. We're pretty far off from losing to soup right now.
alexa might be wolf which would indicate wolves have another role cop.
Possibly, but if Nutella was her actual check like she implied then they don't have a soup from her.
Of course they could have more, but Dizzy was a 1-shot right?
Well, she might have n1 and n2 checks.

Sorry, was trying to say not sure Mafia would have both a 1-shot Rolecop and an infinate shot Rolecop with N0 results.
Seems a bit of a disparity in power.
Then again guess Town having a 2-shot Parity Cop and an infinate Shot Parity Cop both flipped.

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:32 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:31 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:29 pm I think it should be 11 v 5 now if there are no 3ps left. Still we should avoid claiming because soup.
Pretty sure falcon's the only claim so far.
So assuming Dizzy's check is still alive they have 2 soup kills at the moment.
it'll be 11 v 4 so they'd have to soup 7 people to win. We're pretty far off from losing to soup right now.
alexa might be wolf which would indicate wolves have another role cop.

Possibly, but if Nutella was her actual check like she implied then they don't have a soup from her.
Of course they could have more, but Dizzy was a 1-shot right?

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:29 pm I think it should be 11 v 5 now if there are no 3ps left. Still we should avoid claiming because soup.

Pretty sure falcon's the only claim so far.
So assuming Dizzy's check is still alive they have 2 soup kills at the moment.
it'll be 11 v 4 so they'd have to soup 7 people to win. We're pretty far off from losing to soup right now.

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:19 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:15 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:15 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:14 pm I'm also now heavily suspecting Sloonei for persuading me to go to Guillotine.
Ehhh I think Dya and I were the progenitors of the Guillo wagon at EoD most of all.
I also suspect dyachei but the Marmot kill still holds some cred.
i'm still holding the marmot kill against dya even though everybody else has thrown it to the side. I remember game state was highly suggesting that c4 was gonna use his shot on marmot so why not just have dya use it to coast as fake townie. idk for sure though

Think that only works if Dya is a loyal dayvig and had to shoot Mafia and loyal dayvig seems kind of stupid setupwise given only 7 Mafia in a game this large.

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:20 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:18 pm Could wolves be angel dodging too?
sorry but what does angel dodging mean

OK, Neeko isn't the only one and was afraid to ask.

Pretty sure the ammount of cops in this game is an argument that was thrown out when 5 people got dayvigged D1.

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:12 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:12 pm
Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:11 pm I am calling bullshit on Falcon.
Why?
two cops have died already

Right, and how many vigilantes have flipped?

Neeko would assume TSP since Sabie is still just always town being the only night vig claim, unless they retruned SK check.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:03 pm Isn't part of his role the same as someone else's too?

Urist had the same role. Not sure if the results corresponded.
Both died before getting results though so it doesn't really matter.

c4 is certainly a unique kill choice.

OK, Neeko is done.
Planting roots. No more vote change.
This poll already went to Hell and we're repeating D1.

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:43 pm So our lynches are

hollowkatt
sig
DrWilgy
TonyStarkPrime

?

Looks like it, but still1 5 minutes.

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:40 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:39 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:37 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:35 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:34 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:32 pm sabie12
Voters: DrWilgy, alexa, sig, 112, Sloonei, falcon45ca, hollowkatt, Paopan, Master Radishes, Phil and Gloria

Sloonei looks really bad here if sabie flips town vig. I don't think Sloobei easily allows the town vig to be killed.

There are probably other wolf names that I'm failing to discern if wolf or dumb town.
What
Are you the type of town player to lynch an uncounterclaimed vig claimer?
We have had a bazillion deaths in this game. I don’t think all of them were triggered by town roles.
SABIE IS LITERALLY THE ONLY PLAYER TO HAVE CLAIMED A NIGHTKILL BESIDES THE OUTED 3P

IF YOU THINK ONE OF THE VIGGERS IS WOLF THEN IT MUST BE ONE OF THE MANY DAYVIGGERS

LIKE WHERE DID DYA, ILARIO, SIG, WHATEVER RECEIVED ALL THEIR DAYVIGS?
Obligatory don't out your role today especially if you're not up for lynch

You can't stop Neeko!
Neeko is

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Belzy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:31 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:53 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:51 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:48 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:46 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:42 pm dya also shot a wolf so idk, maybe don't push on the only 2 people to actually kill wolves
Why are you associating reading someone;s ISO with pushing?
i'm not. you were pushing back at dya earlier
Well he/she pushed me with im focusing on “3p hunting” narrative which is not true.
Both 3p and Mafia are scum, im scum hunting, i want both death.
maybe when you read my iso you'll also get my pronouns correct. I'm a they/them. Did you know there are other options than he/she?

3p aren't scum. they're 3p
3p is scum actually

Town = town
Mafia = scum
3p = scum

Objectively wrong.
3ps can have wincons that align with town such as Survivor who just wants to live or one who can change their alignment to match another player's (like Town of Salem had a Universal Backup that changed wincons to match the role they backedup)

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:29 pm Making snap decisions really cost us D1 so I'd stay away from making last minute shifts.

Neeko can agree with this, but we need to decide sooner than later which of wiggly and 112 is going to be lynched.
Unless you suggest we push one of the lower 3 up to the top.

Neeko still hasn't seen a case made on 112 and Wiggly is a bit back and forth.

Wiggly's conclusion is pretty much the same as neeko's but Neeko thinks Sabie is far more likely to be Town than Sig just by virtue that they are the only night vigilante claim in the game versus like 5 dayvigs.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:25 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:20 pm ergo Gullio likely has information the rest of us don't about what these 3ps are.
Yah i have. Math. Game started with 33 players. There are 7 confirmed mafia, 21 players must be town for the 3:1 ratio.
Also we’ve seen vanillas flipped, do this is not a role madness game where town gotta have more than the allotted normal to vompensate. That’s 28 players… what about the other 5 then?
Unless HK is a solo 3P and there are more like him, there gotta be another group scum, maybe a cult.

Where does it say there is an exactly 3:1 ratio?
5 3ps seems really high.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:21 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:14 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:09 pm What is Guillotine like as wolf?
Not sure about meta, but honestly suspecting they accidentally slipped they have knowledge of there being a 3p faction.
Which means either they are a part of one or rolecopped a member of one which would likely mean Mafia.
Neeko had once made this mistake as a Mafia Rolecop where she found a 3p who hid well and was about to win and kill the whole town the following night if not lynched and hyper-tunneled it.
It feels like Gullio is doing the same here where they know one exists and doesn't want to outwardly say why they know it exists.
im gonna laugh so hard at you in the graveyard if i find out you are town there.

Hmm Neeko suddenly doubting her theory a bit more than before.
That is a surprisingly genuine sounding response.

ergo Gullio likely has information the rest of us don't about what these 3ps are.

Belzy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:17 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:14 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:09 pm What is Guillotine like as wolf?
Not sure about meta, but honestly suspecting they accidentally slipped they have knowledge of there being a 3p faction.
Which means either they are a part of one or rolecopped a member of one which would likely mean Mafia.
Neeko had once made this mistake as a Mafia Rolecop where she found a 3p who hid well and was about to win and kill the whole town the following night if not lynched and hyper-tunneled it.
It feels like Gullio is doing the same here where they know one exists and doesn't want to outwardly say why they know it exists.
It is not a secret we got 3p, or what are you trying to tell?

Well Gullio is saying there is a 3p faction that is made up of multiple members.
The OP only mentions 3ps exist. So like while Op says SK might exist Gullio is saying there is a cult or other faction that is anti-town that is working together and not Mafia.

Belzy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:09 pm What is Guillotine like as wolf?

Not sure about meta, but honestly suspecting they accidentally slipped they have knowledge of there being a 3p faction.
Which means either they are a part of one or rolecopped a member of one which would likely mean Mafia.
Neeko had once made this mistake as a Mafia Rolecop where she found a 3p who hid well and was about to win and kill the whole town the following night if not lynched and hyper-tunneled it.
It feels like Gullio is doing the same here where they know one exists and doesn't want to outwardly say why they know it exists.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:07 pm why is wigly isoing someone who's guaranteed to die?
and then why is wigly calling me paired with anyone?

Straight up I am hard claiming 3p vig doctor bpv. I have no associations

Ok, but what exactly is your win condition?
This sounds like it'd have an SK wincon.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 3:53 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 3:46 pm At the risk of reigniting more pointless conversation: "3P faction" is very distinctly not "a second mafia team."
Right but it is also very distinctly not town.

That's not true.
Fallout Mafia was ran this year which featured 3rd party factions that had town-like wincons.

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:36 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:35 pm i see Urist watching us and want to say maaaaaybe LinearPoint lol
I keep forgetting LinearPoint exists

Hi, yes, am reading had things to to and catching up.

Paopan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:52 am
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:50 am That's not...Even remotely the point of that post.
Mafia can have protective roles. They are useful.
Not to mention, one can just lie about their role?
So "Mafia wouldn't ever pick a Protective role" is just not a defense.
Okay may I ask you a question.
As a mafia player that could choose any roles from the game.
Why would you choose a protective role?

There can be many reasons depending on the strength of the role.
A Jailkeeper is still useful as a roleblocker for example.
A Doctor is just a straight upgrade to Bulletproof which is already a strong Mafia role.
Given the roles that have flipped though it could have any number of weird mechanics that make it strong.
Not dying is surprisingly a very good ability to have.

That's not...Even remotely the point of that post.
Mafia can have protective roles. They are useful.
Not to mention, one can just lie about their role?
So "Mafia wouldn't ever pick a Protective role" is just not a defense.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:40 am 112 is the player on the poll I have paid the least attention to.

same

Can anyone on the 112 wagon explain it? Neeko still doesn't see where it's coming from.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:30 am
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:23 am It feels more like Dizzy was trying to get Wiggly chopped.
I might actually feel the other way about the second of these two quotes. Dizzy's language feels very labored there. It could be a sign that he was overthinking it when addressing Wilgy's presence in the game.

Maybe, but don't Mafia overthink a lot even when it's not addressing their partners?

Paopan wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:21 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:32 am I’m trying to conceive of the mastermind of a wolf team filled with the people who seem just out of reach — Paopan, Wilgy, maybe JPIC? Wolves ought to be more likely here. Not sure what would make that machine function.
Yeah... I might be scum but what are you going to do about it?
Will the question is...
Will they kill me tonight after claiming a protective role or would mafia risk having me alive for being a LHF?
Now, choose your poison:

As town, here is my defense:
- Mafia Capt most probably hand-picked the players
- If Mafia Capt randomed, I am also cleared because they can choose from a pool of roles. So why would I choose a protective role as Mafia? I have big balls of steel

Today, Here's how we should proceed
Lynch -> HK, Sabie, Sig, and DrWigly/112

Deep wolves are probably between Belzy, Ilario, or alexa

Feels like an old crank. But here we go. See u all on day 3 ^^

"Why wouold they choose a protecitve role as Mafia?"
No offense, but have you seen the amount of vigilante shots?
There's pretty good reason to want to not die to Vigilantes.

Neeko made a post a while before the first voting ended about the Dizzy X Wiggly interaction looking fake with Dizzy scum reading Wiggly without much reason and then staying off Wiggly at EoD when Wiggly was just a vote or two from being lynched over Sean whom Dizzy did not have a scum read on. Logic would say if you had a scum read and a null or town read tied for lynch you'd vote your scum read, but she didn't do that which makes the scum read on Wiggly look a bit forced.

That being said these two post are what is what's making Neeko hesitate on the Dizzy X Wiggly being a scum team.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:01 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:56 pmHoldup. Am I probably mafia mafia because of town wagons or are these unrelated statements?
These are unrelated statements. You are mafia because of the way you acted EoD.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:07 pm I don't like the thought of Wilgy being town, but that's not a good way to solve. So I think we should give him the floor a bit today and solve.

Anyway, I should've been sleeping, so I'll attempt to do that and definitely not think of something game related in 10 minutes and start posting again

It feels more like Dizzy was trying to get Wiggly chopped.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:10 am Is it bad to say we should just chop both sabie and sig since there's a decent chance at least one of them is lying?

Well Neeko thinks Sabie is significantly less likely to flip scum, so yes only killing Sig would be preferable.

Aright Neeko dropped everything to write a poem. But it doesn't look like the pool has moved at all since she last saw so she didn't miss anything.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:01 pm Please dear god let us hit at least one.

To be fair it's physically impossibly to hit 4 Town with HK being outed.

You know, Neeko sometimes wonders if this is a hydra or just Mac.

alexa wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 4:52 pm is there a way to multiquote on this site?

Middle mouse button is Neeko's friend.
Also Control + A after pressing middle mouse.
Then Control + C, then Control + V.
Works like a charm.

Sabie is still the only one claiming a night vig though.
So for all intensive purposes Sabie is basically being not cced at all assuming Urist was killed by Mafia and not Town or 3p.

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