The Syndicate

I am a Cylon.

Just in case my predecessor didn't declare.

Bea just declared.

I don't know if I would have voted as DFaraday did. I have an uneasy feeling that LoRab is telling the truth, but I guess we'll find out soon enough. I really dislike killing civ cylons just because a high-ranking sociopath is telling us we have to.

My first linki!

bea wrote:

That DEX?!

I've missed you big brother! Don't be bad k?

k

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:GUN TO HEAD GO:

ZEBRA

BEA

BLACK ROCK

Bad

Good

Good

Um, when was the last time anyone did a sortie around here?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:GTH GO

DFARADAY / DEX

DRUMBEATS

DRWILGY

Most excellent and also very good
good
bad

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Dex wrote:Um, when was the last time anyone did a sortie around here?
Here

Were way overdue. wtf. What sectors aren't yet searched?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:GTH GO

VOMPATTI

SPACEDAISY

SOKOTHQULTUG

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Bad

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:GTH GO

SILVERWOLF

SIG

SCOTTY

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote:GTH GO

EPIGNOSIS

GLORFINDEL

G-MAN

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Good

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:GTH GO

S~V~S

RICOCHET

POLO

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Bad

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:GTH GO

JAGGEDJIMMYJAY

JULIETS

LONG CON

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Bad

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:GTH GO

LORAB

METALMARSH89

OBSCUREALLURE

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Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Dex wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Dex wrote:Um, when was the last time anyone did a sortie around here?
Here
Were way overdue. wtf. What sectors aren't yet searched?
Dunno. I'll get you an updated list after this little GTH game and the Day ends.

Also Hi! And welcome to the game.

Hello!

Let's launch one!

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:No MATT?
lol oops

GTH GO

MATT

Good

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
I'll pull the most recent grid up.

Linki: lol, never mind

Do me a solid and post the grid anyway, will you?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Yup, working on it now Captain!

Psst, Dex, are you actually indiglo in disguise?

Hey, great minds. LOL

S~V~S wrote:Good night. And I forgot to say hi Dex xoxo nice to see you

Hey you! Nice to see you too.

ObscureAllure wrote:Sorry Dex! :sad:

No problem, I was just eager to have one done.

Ricochet wrote:lawl where's the host

Hello to Dex. Why am I bad, we haven't even met?

Hello to Epignosis. Why am I bad?

Hello back! Because no declaration.

Ricochet wrote:What declaration?

Saying "I am a Cylon". It's all the rage. All the kids are doing it.

Ricochet wrote:Oh, that thing. Meh. We were "some" people short of "everyone" claiming, anyway.

We're down to eight.

Say, how many Cylons are in this game, anyway?

Polo wrote:Assclues me?

So, is she mafia or not?

She did not get along with Cavil. I'd venture that she was a good bet for a human friendly Cylon.

"Number Three" is a model of humanoid Cylon, female, blonde, and marked by a religious curiosity—notably surrounding the verboten Final Five—that sets her against the other Cylon models, notably the Number Ones.

indiglo wrote:Cavil vs D'Anna

Cavil Faction: ones (Cavil), fours (O'Neill), fives (Doral) and Boomer (Cavil also hated the Final 5, wanting them dead and/or boxed), the Hybrid (if it exists) may be in this faction, or work as an indy

D'Anna's Group: twos (Leoben), threes (D'Anna), and Athena, Caprica Six may be in this faction, or work as an indy.

Resurrecting this post from the lovely and intelligent Indiglo. Given that I think it's obvious that there are civ cylons and mafia cylons, we're frakking the wrong toasters.

ObscureAllure wrote:After all, we are out to get all cylons now, not just the *good* ones, right? :eyeroll: Tomorrow will be mighty interesting.

I don't think we should just calmly accept having to pull off (now) twelve successful lynches in order to win the game. What do you think our chances are of winning in those circumstances? To my mind, a better idea is to overthrow Caine (a Caine mutiny, as it were), and bring that number down to a more realistic number. And who knows how these potentially allied cylons might help us in that endeavor?

Ricochet wrote:Final question before heading to work. Did you spectate whilst being a non-player, Dex? I find you were very prompt and knowledgeable right from your first post, in which you Cylonclaimed.

also whats your gender

Yes, I've been following along pretty closely and have formed definite opinions. There were times I wished I could have posted.

And I'm male, or a "pickle" in old HV parlance.

Polo wrote:I know that lynching 12 people sucks butts, but I believe we should go after Cavil before attempting a coup d'état. Or an impeachment process; as a Brazilian dude I'll be glad to provide y'all with my hands-on experience.

If you know who Cavil is, I'm all for it. Otherwise, a mutiny gives us our best shot at victory. Besides which, although morality on the show was hardly black and white, if there was a character that came closest to pure evil outside of Cavil, it was Cain. I don't think she can possibly be civ. And so I regard her insistence on destroying all toasters suspect.

Polo wrote:Do you know who Cain is then? If you knew who were Cain and Cavil, would you lynch Cain first?

I don't know who anyone is, but LC looks awful Cainish to me. And I think I would probably gun for Cain first, because what if D'Anna was civ? What power did she have? Maybe she was an effective anti-Cavil in some way. If not all cylons are mafia, then it stands to reason that the ones that aren't have something to contribute to the civ cause, and I just don't think we should be burning these potential positive resources without a second thought. Lynching Cain first just might make lynching Cavil and his ilk easier.

S~V~S wrote:As I understand it, Cain was like Athena, a literary device of sorts to demonstrate that all was not black/white, yes? Like in the original series, Cylons were unmitigated evil, no wiggle room. In the reboot,not so much (this is totally from the "only read multiple articles on the wiki & saw half of season one" perspective, I am going to bite the bullet & buy the mini series this weekend so season 1 makes more sense). Athena demonstrated that Cylons could be good, and Cain that humans could be bad. Is this correct? She seems somewhat of a tragic figure, but she seems driven by hate & revenge. No one could blame her personally for hating cylons in general, but it seeped into her command decisions, which is what made it bad.

Even if not for canon driven reasons that make me think this role is bad, I am not a fan of our win cons being made more difficult, since even if the remaining cylons seem to be predominantly bad, the Final Five, not so much.

If she backs down & restores our win cons, I am less likely to worry about her. But I view that win con thing as an act of aggression.

Pretty much. The Pegasus originally had an entourage of civilian ships like the Galactica, but she decided to strip them of vital equipment for spare parts for the Pegasus and left the people to die. For Cain, prosecuting the war against the Cylons trumped preserving the human race, which is kind of insane.

Plus, she delighted in torturing people. So... yeah.

I'm surprised you weren't all over the show.

juliets wrote:I saw something in her posts that I believe would have got her punished but I don't think it is wise for me to repeat it. So, I think she's telling the truth.

You did better than I did. Like SD, I couldn't find anything even remotely punishable in her posts prior to her smiley phase. I couldn't find anything that looked like a trigger, either, and I consider her specific claim - that she was punished for triggering an event - just bizarre.

Of all the excuses for not declaring cylon remaining, this may be, to me, the weakest, and therefore the most suspicious.

He asks a question:

a2thezebra wrote:More people G2H read me as bad than I would have expected, for shame. Care to elaborate anyone?

Then answers it succinctly himself:

a2thezebra wrote:Not only am I not claiming Cylon, I highly discourage anyone else who still hasn't claimed Cylon from doing so.

a2thezebra wrote:I've been over this. A mass claim will help mafia more than hurt them.

What kind of intelligence can process this statement as being true? I suggest, an artificial one.

a2thezebra wrote:I consider myself female. Not everyone agrees but just FYI.

I don't see how the last two quotes are related to the question I asked before. In the G2H reads a number of people read me as bad that have barely mentioned me or asked me any questions, so I would still like some elaboration on that. My criticism of the Cylon mass claim plan is completely unrelated.

I knew that, too. Derp. I apologize,

I can't speak for anyone else, but for me my suspicion of you is entirely on account of your criticism of the Cylon mass claim plan, so they are not at all unrelated.

Ricochet wrote:Tomorrow (if alive of cors) I'd like to lynch Long Con.

I'm on board with that. Moreover, anyone of a like mind should cast their vote early. If LC is Cain, as I believe, he has the authority to order a premature jump. Making him the leader in votes before the day is half over will prevent that from happening.

Ricochet wrote:But I'm lynching him for being a Cylon.

That's fine, just vote for him early.

Long Con wrote:I swear to God, S~V~S - give me a little time, and I can prove it to you. I can't do it if you guys just lynch me tomorrow for theories and suppositions about the role you think I am can do.

Why not do it now?

sig wrote:I'll claim tomorrow I said, since it seems it will lift peoples concerns about me.

Why not do it now?

Polo wrote:I think they have to claim it during a day phase.

Oh, right.

Goldama actual, please sortie the frak out of sector C$, thx.

Only five to go. I got to say, if they hadn't NKed Indi, we would have accomplished this mission by now.

Um, that was meant to be sector C4...

So Say We All!

LC, or one of the Suspicious Seven: Zebra, Glorfindel, Vompati, Obscure, Rico, Sok, or Wilgy.

Polo wrote:Do you not suspect Sig?

Oh, I most certainly do. But he just declared so he is no longer a member of that group, and a vote today is now wasted because he's probably a toaster.

EBWOP

...a vote today FOR SIG is now wasted...

LC, you once posted a list of the roles and guessed their alignment. Now that we know who the secret role is, what is your call on Cain?

Long Con wrote:I believe Cain needs to kill all Cylons. I don't think, and didn't think back then, that this game is a simple civ vs bad. I think Cain upsets certain factions, and that the Cylons that most humans need dead are the biggest likely voice of those factions. It just makes logical sense.

Back then, however, you used "BAD", "GOOD", and "INDY/NEUTRAL" in bright colors to describe all the characters. I'm guessing that you just don't want to do this with Cain.

Black Rock wrote:Nope SVS. Not that easy. I think you are trying to separate the two but the more I play this game (and the more I understood my role), the more I understand that faction is where we should be unless we're traitors. So are you Cylon or human traitor? They both exist.

Well, President Roslin passed the Cylon Amnesty Act. Is she Cylon or human traitor?

Black Rock wrote:
Dex wrote:In the show, Roslin would never pass such a law. So who ever is playing this role is a human traitor. Roslin was never a huge Cylo9n sympathizer. They killed the human race o9n whole. Epig really does have the best Cylon role.
She worked with Cylons! One example:

The discovery of the Rebel Cylon basestar presents Roslin with yet another difficult decision; the Cylons are willing to help the Colonials destroy the Resurrection Hub, thus rendering all Cylons mortal, in exchange for the identities of the Final Five, which will give them the location of Earth. Roslin agrees to the deal.

Moreover, Adama and Roslin actual consider assassinating Cain. More human treachery?

Reposting for clarity

Black Rock wrote:In the show, Roslin would never pass such a law. So who ever is playing this role is a human traitor. Roslin was never a huge Cylo9n sympathizer. They killed the human race o9n whole. Epig really does have the best Cylon role.

She worked with Cylons! One example:

The discovery of the Rebel Cylon basestar presents Roslin with yet another difficult decision; the Cylons are willing to help the Colonials destroy the Resurrection Hub, thus rendering all Cylons mortal, in exchange for the identities of the Final Five, which will give them the location of Earth. Roslin agrees to the deal.

Moreover, Adama and Roslin actual consider assassinating Cain. More human treachery?

SokothQultuq wrote:Anyone have a better argument?

It's what good civs do.

Polo wrote:Oh, somebody got insanified.

I guess he won't be declaring today.

Who wants to do a sortie? Only B1, C2, C6, F1 and F3 remain.

Long Con wrote:
Dex wrote:Who wants to do a sortie? Only B1, C2, C6, F1 and F3 remain.
WOW! We're that close, eh?

I will send a Sortie to B1 then.

Excellent! I think it's a good idea that the Pegasus flies some of these missions.

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