The Syndicate

So say we all

Catching up, didn't realize we started. I'm going to be rusty guys after three years off. Lol.

Yeah I suck ass at WoF just throwing that out there. Although that "Tft" mid word is odd so surely that can help us figure it out?

That has to be switched letters because that doesn't fit english phonetics.

iI'm pretty sure r = t because of the '

But it can't be just move the letters by two because then the first letter of the sentence would be a V

Golden wrote:With C

T~ ~~~ a~~’r audrc~~ rhu ~n~~~tf Focctuc t~~uatorun~ ~~~ itnn d~~~uc.

Good luck guys. I do believe you have a chance.

Didnt think of r = s ... that means

T~ ~~~ a~~’r audrc~~ rhu ~n~~~tf Focctuc t~~uatorun~ ~~~ itnn d~~~uc.
U- --- b--'s bvesd .... nope can't be just lining up r with s. doesn't work r with t either.

I think might be r = t. Which would make rhe -> the

I think t is o or i

added yeeah probably i

DUDE polo r = t It's got to >.<

A
B
C R
D
E
F C
G
H H
I
J
K
L
M
N L
O A
P
Q
R T
S
T I
U E
V
W
X
Y
Z

T~ ~~~ a~~’r audrc~~ rhu ~n~~~tf Focctuc t~~uatorun~ ~~~ itnn d~~~uc
I- --- *--'t *e*tr** the Olympic Carrier i--e*iatel* --- *ill *--er

Are people just ignoring me? r pretty much has to equal t, not s.

If you don't destroy the olympic carrier immediately you will suffer

For the record, these are the letters we deciphered.

A D
B
C R
D S
E
F C
G
H H
I W
J
K
L
M
N L
O A
P
Q
R T
S
T I
U E
V
W
X
Y
Z

juliets wrote:Yes Polo you did a fantastic job as well.

Oh hai dere stranger!

Polo wrote:My vote proably goes to LoRab. LoRab has been watching but only made one non-constructive post during our attempt to save our asses.

Already talking who you're going to vote for and it's been up for like 15 minute? Well if that's the case I'd actually probably vote for you because you were ignoring letters I was posting. You even said olympic carrier but then put other letters in their place. >.<

Oh hai Lorab!!

I'm camping this weekend and the Internet is spotty. I was able to at least catch up but it took forever so now my phone battery is drained. Will try to stop by again later tonight and give some thoughts ahead of the vote, but honestly my lack of BG knowledge is making me feel lost. I had the impression that the cylons were the bad guys as they are the second group of characters, but then someone was saying back that people might not know if they are a bad guy? So are the cylons not the mafia? So confused.

Anyway, going swim in a water fall now. Check in later.

Ran out of time catching up, don't want to chance missing the vote so voting for Polo. I'll be back in town at some point either tonight or tomorrow
Morning

ObscureAllure wrote:Ran out of time catching up, don't want to chance missing the vote so voting for Polo. I'll be back in town at some point either tonight or tomorrow
Morning

Vote polo sorry

So say we all (just in case, still catching up and don't want to get punshed by Daddy Golden! 33 pages for day one cycle... wow.)

WARNING: Long post alert!

G-Man wrote:Polo seemed to be very adept at solving the cipher. He also threw out civ cred a little quickly for those helping on the cipher. There was a brief back-and-forth with ObscureAllure (who I remember from a forum long long ago as a confident and headstrong player with a lot of grit and spit) but I don't know how much to read into that, if at all.

Not sure if that's an insult or flattery.

DrumBeats wrote:

ika wrote:ill take you up on the offer of seeing the games if you dont mind. im cusious to see how it work cus if there is no diffrence i think i will have a lot more fun sorting you

Scum:
http://forums.bulbagarden.net/index.php ... 20.187711/

Most, but not all, of the private communication is linked in the Quicktopics at the end here, so you can actually see a lot of that here.

Town:
http://forums.bulbagarden.net/index.php ... ry.214349/

This one none of my private communication was publicized, but basically I pseudo cleared the doctor and cop and united them with the tracker, whose softclaims I caught. I knew one guys meta well enough to give him a chance to kill me and frame somebody else, knowing that if he were scum he would take that opportunity, and I told somebody else about the plan so if I died it would come down on the original person. Turned out the two people were the cop and doctor respectively and it brought us all together and united us.

That's a whole lot of WIFOM. You'll need another bottle with that much.

Silverwolf wrote:

ObscureAllure wrote:Ran out of time catching up, don't want to chance missing the vote so voting for Polo. I'll be back in town at some point either tonight or tomorrow
Morning

This is the only reasoning I can see for your Polo read. Is this why you are voting him or is there something else? Please elaborate on this so I can understand your thought process better.

ObscureAllure wrote:

Polo wrote:My vote proably goes to LoRab. LoRab has been watching but only made one non-constructive post during our attempt to save our asses.

Already talking who you're going to vote for and it's been up for like 15 minute? Well if that's the case I'd actually probably vote for you because you were ignoring letters I was posting. You even said olympic carrier but then put other letters in their place. >.<

Oh hai Lorab!!

Nope, that was it. It was day one and my day one votes are usually based off of very little. Added to that, I haven't played with half of you before, and the other half it's been years and I have to relearn everyone's style. You're honestly lucky you even got that much explaination because I've been known to either random on day one, or vote just for someone who is being annoying.

In fact, it's kind of amuzing that all of these people are like "Oh, yeah, OA's polo vote is totally pingy..." what about it was? I was correcly saying taht r = t and he kept ignoring it and saying the wrong letter. And then was mis-entering other letters. It's pingy that i voted for him, but his actions aren't pingy? LOL!

Scotty wrote:

ika wrote:Scotty-need more i find him a little more on the scum side for ~reasons~

Sometimes cookies go missing from the pantry but that doesn't mean I'm gonna start suspecting the vacuum cleaner.

I LOLed.

ika wrote:a2thezebra - null town

Epignosis - lean scum
ika - IC town
inawordyes - scum
Indiglo - null
JaggedJimmyJay - town
Matt - null?
Nerolunar - post history
nutella - need more
ObscureAllure - Doctor who
Ricochet - null scum
S~V~S - slight sucm
Scotty - null oddly enough
sig - maybe town?
Silverwolf - TOWN <3
SokothQultuq - null
Spacedaisy - null
Vompatti - null

this is what i have so far? i am terrbile with off top of head stuff

Fixed that for you.

ika wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

ika wrote:the rest i mostly agree.

@rico, ifs funny that you dont know null scum if you have been more then 4 years

What are you talking about?

Is it that hard to explain a mashup of two concepts, namely null and scum?

you said you played more then me, that would mean you have been playing more then 4 years.

If we're going to whip out our members and measure, then I'll join in. I started playing mafia (also/originally known as "are you a werewolf") in PERSON almost 20 years ago and online since at least 2010 or earlier. And I have never heard the term "null scum." Don't know if this is how you usually talk to other players or not, but it's kind of raising red flags with me.

S~V~S wrote: This is my three bads:

Rico
G-Man
OA (somewhat less than the rest) for her unexplained Polo vote. Was it random? Was there a reason? Did no one at all catch her eye?

But I did give reasons, and silver wolf even quoted them right before you posted this.

Long Con wrote:ika, when I play with Black Rock, I specifically avoid discussing her for at least a few days, because she's my wife. I suggest you and Silverwolf give it a try, I'm so over seeing 100 posts between the two of you on Day 1 frankly.

Amen to that. Half of my catch up has been skimming their posts at this point. PS: Refreshing to see you and your crassness hasn't hanged one bit. Nice to play with you again my friend. *hi five*

Gman and his lists. Feels like home.

Nerolunar wrote:

Polo wrote:

ObscureAllure wrote:Ran out of time catching up, don't want to chance missing the vote so voting for Polo. I'll be back in town at some point either tonight or tomorrow
Morning

Whoa there. Can I know why?

I guess thats a question all of us wants answered.

Nerolunar wrote:FoS on ObscureAllure. He needs to adress his Polo vote.

Nerolunar wrote:I will be going to bed soon, so Im going to place my vote.

Vote ObscureAllure

18 pages in and this is literally the first thing you've said about me. I said that I was camping and wouldn't be able to respond before the timer ran out. So you threatened to vote for me if I don't come back, after I said I WASN'T COMING BACK. Said prior that polo was my only real suspicion, and why. .... It's day one, people. Just because some other people have apparently figured out the whole game on day one, I take a little more time and thought into figuring things out. Day one is a crapshoot. That was my only named suspish and I voted it. With all of the other craziness going on with near info dumping and people positive of baddieness on day one, the fact that you jumped on this knowing I woudn't be back in time to reply is kind of crazy. Feels like a mafia looking for a place to throw a vote without gaining too much attention. PS, I'm a girl.

Polo wrote:Glorfindel also failed to say So Say We All, along with Vompatti.

S~V~S, Metalmarsh89, SokothQultuq, Nutella and Drumbeats also failed to begin their first post with So Say We All.

Actively trying to get people in trouble? What if that's townies you're getting punished, there, guy?


So I know it's been a while, but I don't remember day ones with so much "I know [this]!" In fact, day one used to be pure drivel. Is it normal for day ones to go like this now, or is this game unique?

I'm only on page 23. Trying guys. Having no cell service up there got me way behind.

So say we all JIC

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:linki-I have a life JJJ-I'm not going to tell you about my RL but I've been hit with a ton of shit lately-so no, I was not sure I'd be here. I don't care if you believe that or not tbh. I am getting quite tired of the interrogation.

I don't have an opinion on MM's vote or MM right now. Do you have an opinion you'd like to share?

Please don't tell me about your RL stuff. That's not what I'm after.

I don't care if you're getting quite tired of the interrogation. I interrogate.

I am not especially suspicious of MM.

I'm going to go with JJJ on this. Of course he (or anyone else) is going to interrogate. It's mafia. The whole point of the game is to interrogate. We don't know who is who (and if you do know, you have to pretend you don't) so you interrogate.

indiglo wrote:ISO results -

Polo's vote for LoRab was a mess up. He did not realize votes are non-changeable.

OA voted Polo for the mess up LoRab vote. She was camping and on a cell phone.

I said I was voting for him because of his letters triffle, the LoRab vote just caught my attention.

Polo wrote:

Golden wrote:

Everyone had assembled in the CIC, understanding that their next task was to determine who, in the fleet, was a cylon. Everyone was on the hunt.

So all of those people mentioned here must be characters stationed aboard the fleet. Cool info.

Can't speak on it for sure, but I've always known that lynch and night posts were more as story boards and the story of it wasn't telling of actual info. I highly doubt that Golden just outed townies in his lynch post. Are you new to Mafia? This is a fairly common practice. LINKI: never mind he confirmed this.

Epignosis wrote:Lynch Silverwolf please.

Why? Not that I disagree, but why?

I believe that either silver wolf and/or Ika is bad, leaning more towards ika though.
I think Epi is a townie win condition, regardess of the cylon character name.
I believe Lunar is mafia, and polo is either mafia or just new to the game.

ika wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

ika wrote:

Epignosis wrote:You all know my role and the lore associated with that, Bad Cylons are going to try to fuck with that. I am here to do my best to give you honest guidance, humans. I'll do my best to answer you.

your cylon, your scum

Are all Cylons bad?

yes. all cylons need to die

This is why. So we have been given TONS of information that hints that not all cylons are bad. In fact, golden has damn near laid it out plain at this point. Ika's insistance that this is the case makes me think he's a bad cylon who wants to look good and is playing the "Oh, I didn't know that he could be cylon and be good, but look how hard I tried to kill a cylon so I've got to be a good guy!" card.

Polo wrote:

indiglo wrote:I don't think we can permanently kill ANY Cylon until the Rezz Ships are destroyed.

So we should avoid lynches or else we could end up lynching a human.

.... how does one "avoid lynches?" ... uhmm... what...?

Polo wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Polo wrote:

indiglo wrote:I don't think we can permanently kill ANY Cylon until the Rezz Ships are destroyed.

So we should avoid lynches or else we could end up lynching a human.

We can still Cylon-hunt and find some in the process.

We can, but we need to be very damn sure of who we choose to lynch.

I hope Gaius Baltar does a good job.

Isn't that the point of every lynch in every game ever? PING.

ika wrote:epi is scum regarless of his wincon

umm... ouch? Actually, if he's a cylon but his wincon is that he helps the townie, that makes him a townie in my book. I want to lynch the people that hurt townies, not those who help them. And it's kind of scary that you want to lynch someone regardless of their townie affiliation

ika wrote:

DrumBeats wrote: I like that idea Indiglo

@Epi - Are you town-aligned?

Do you know if any other cylons are town-aligned?

to.

no cyclon is town, all cyclons are scum

Statistically, this is pretty much impossible. The first couple of days are usually townie lynches, and the night kills are almost always townie. AND cylons apparently can't be lynched with the rezz ship active? If all cylons were bad, given this, it would mean that with that many mafia, the town was almost garunteed a loss in the first few days. Golden has been playing and hosting for a long time. I can't see him making that many mafia off the batt and boobytrapping the game. Plus, as countless others have said including golden, the wincons were purposefully left out and the roles are not what they apear to be. I'm like 90% sure that not all cylons are mafia. (I don't know for sure whether or not Epi is, but your inistance that he must be a mafia because he's a cylon disturbs me.)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I have a test in the morning (the stupid GRE) so I won't be here tonight to assist with the sector hunting. Good luck chums.

I remember those days. Hope you scored high. *hifive*

Long Con wrote:All Cylons must die. I'm taking a hard stance on that one, I don't care if any particular Cylon fell in love or doesn't know they're Cylon, or is ME even. All Cylons have to die, for the human race to survive. That is the beginning and end of my part in this "debate". There are no Civvies and baddies, there are no town and scum. There are humans and Cylons.

Agree to disagree. Not possible that all cylons are bad given the numbers ratio and that the rezz ship must be blowed up for them to lynch die. You're a mathamatics guy, can't you see that it's not statistically a well weighted game if all cylons re bad? PING


We know Epi cant die right now until the ship is down. IMO, whether or not all cylons are bad guys, it's better to search for a new one we don't know yet than to keep hitting him if he can't die and we dont learn anything new.

Long Con wrote:

ObscureAllure wrote:

Long Con wrote:ika, when I play with Black Rock, I specifically avoid discussing her for at least a few days, because she's my wife. I suggest you and Silverwolf give it a try, I'm so over seeing 100 posts between the two of you on Day 1 frankly.

Amen to that. Half of my catch up has been skimming their posts at this point. PS: Refreshing to see you and your crassness hasn't hanged one bit. Nice to play with you again my friend. *hi five*

LOL Yup, crass, that's me all right. Did you see what I just did with the Sortie Plan? I'm such a stinker.

So... you are not holding a grudge for the Battle Royale game? That was some morally dubious play on my part... I had it all justified, but I still didn't like having to do it.

Just saw your dick mve and yes it was a dick move. lol. Although that isn't out of the LC character I know... I still thinkit was an odd move in game. Kind feels like you were trying to save the ship. Which would make sense since you seem to be hinting at another Epi vote, even though we know we cant kill him with the ship alive. I've got my on you buddy!

And yes you still owe me BIG TIME for battle royale. BIG TIME MISTER.

MM - I was talking about members because everyone else was mesasuring their pen... I mean how long they've been playing mafia as though it has anything to do with this game or the weird "null scum" terminilogy knowledge (or lack there of).

indiglo wrote:

ika wrote:

indiglo wrote:

ika wrote:Anyways heading home now that Imoff work I can cover the next 2 days worth of cycles

NO. Do not do this please. Stick to the schedule, for you have already screwed up the next cycle.

Lord-a-mercy, is this all in Chinese???

requote the scedule i can cover the next two days

NO. THEY ARE ALREADY COVERED BY A VARIETY OF VOLUNTEERS.

Shouty indiglo being shouty. lol. But yeah seriously. How has no one else picked up on Ika yet/??????

Scotty wrote:

Long Con wrote:Well, indi, I was the only one posting at the appointed minute. It seems as though that should be the MOST important thing, because although the mission times can slip, lynch times may not. If I or anyone else is present at the appointed minute, then that person should just give the next planned coordinates. It doesn't matter WHO gives them, as much as making sure they are on as tight a schedule as possible.

Linki: ika nailed it exactly. It's not about being polite, it's about being prompt.

It's also about working as a team. I still don't agree with you selecting out of the checkerboard pattern. That seems like a major tactical mistake unless you know something.

DITTO DITTO DITTO.

ika wrote:polo might also be scum for even thinking that cylons can be town

Guess that makes me scum too because not only am I almost positive that some cylons are town, BUT I think you're mafia.

Long Con wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Long Con wrote:Well, indi, I was the only one posting at the appointed minute. It seems as though that should be the MOST important thing, because although the mission times can slip, lynch times may not. If I or anyone else is present at the appointed minute, then that person should just give the next planned coordinates. It doesn't matter WHO gives them, as much as making sure they are on as tight a schedule as possible.

Linki: ika nailed it exactly. It's not about being polite, it's about being prompt.

It's also about working as a team. I still don't agree with you selecting out of the checkerboard pattern. That seems like a major tactical mistake unless you know something.

I feel like you are roleplaying BG rather than giving a realistic analysis of the grid-guessing-game. "Major tactical mistake"?? I don't know anything, and unless you DO know something, then what are you talking about, "tactical mistake"? The Rez Ship has an equal chance of being on any square, and the order we choose them matters not a bit.

Disgree. If the mafia know what square it's on, then they'll intentionally choose not that square and call it "random" ... where as if we have a plan you have to pick the next planned square and hit the ship.



I'll be perfectly honest. If it were daytime, I'd vote for ika right now. Behavior isn't towards moving forward in the game, and it's becoming quite hard to watch.


Did I miss this - why are some character names in red and some in green?


I am going to put this as lightly and anonymously as I can. If you know another player in real life and you talk about the game and info dump to each other, you should either keep what you know outside of your posts remove yourself from the game. Infodumping is bullshit and one of the quickest ways to ruin a game.

Long Con wrote:

Matt wrote:Gotta run some errands, be back in a bit.

Please, I'd like to hear more of people talking about lynching a role who is constantly risking her own life for the sake of the human race, on the show.

Your win condition must be very different than mine.

I'd wager a guess that mine is. I chose to be killing *mafia* not *cylons*.

Ricochet wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:I'm just going to throw this link in here: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=61545

This is a Battlestar Galactica game on another site where cylons were the bad guys and humans were good.

Relevance to current game and current Host's possible intentions to design this game?

Because this game was heavily based on Battlestar Galactica lore like some are using here to say Epi is town. This is not this case. Cylons need to die in order for humans to win. I can't be more clear about this if I tried. Try reading some of it, and you might understand why I posted it.

Where does it say that on the front page?

Try reading what? We're not playing that game on MS, we're playing this one on Syndicate. Again, relevance?

THIS. In a past game on another site, I was a host. Does that mean I'm a host now?

There are a number of people being very vocal that not all cylons are bad. Perhaps there is a good reason for that as well. I'm inclined to think that the people who have given reasons as to why not have very good reasons as opposed to Ika's "because I said so" or "because in another site they are" rant.

a2thezebra wrote:This is getting reeeeeeally dumb.

I feel like I'm at a trump political rally

Why are we still entertaining this? Seriously?

Because we are playing townies VS mafia! And the last 10 pages or so consist of you repeating 10000000000000000 times that cylons are scum (which apparently means to you not mafia just different win conditions). Ok! We get it! Even if they don't have the same win conditions, the whole point of the game is to sniff out mafia, not random win conditions, and we've all figured out that everyone in the game has different win conditions .... So unless we kill everyone because everyone has different win conditions, then can we PLEASE get on with sniffing out the MAFIA and not ten more pages of this?!

Just for anyone who missed the last ten pages: Ika thinks cylons are scum (people with different win conditions) and should die.
There. It's official. Now LETS MOVE ON.

Epi - I know I haven't been playing with them long, but I actually think that silver wolf is reacting the way she is out of her personal desire to protect Ika, not actual in game reasons. If I had to bet, it's Ika and not silver wolf who is mafia. In fact the more I see, the more sure I am that silver wolf has in the least a townie role. I think her personal feelings have just gotten the best of her and she's reacting based on that.

For what it's worth, I believe you to be for the townie cause, regardless of your cylon role.

I think Ika and LC have BTSC based on a few comments that have been made. My vote tomorrow will be for one of them. Most likely Ika because at this point I'm just tired of reading page after page of the same thing.

indiglo wrote:

ObscureAllure wrote:Epi - I know I haven't been playing with them long, but I actually think that silver wolf is reacting the way she is out of her personal desire to protect Ika, not actual in game reasons. If I had to bet, it's Ika and not silver wolf who is mafia. In fact the more I see, the more sure I am that silver wolf has in the least a townie role. I think her personal feelings have just gotten the best of her and she's reacting based on that.

For what it's worth, I believe you to be for the townie cause, regardless of your cylon role.

I think Ika and LC have BTSC based on a few comments that have been made. My vote tomorrow will be for one of them. Most likely Ika because at this point I'm just tired of reading page after page of the same thing.

Interesting. I'd be interested in hearing what those few comments are, if you have the time and are so inclined.

I like where your head is at on the ika/SW thing too. It's almost reminiscent of Turf Wars, where that very thing was true. (ika baddie, SW civ) Though, it's hard for me to sift through all the (what I consider "crazy") to see actual things. If that makes any sense.

I might get too close to info dumping if I do that, and I would prefer not to. Just seems like LC and Ika are very on the same page in ways that I wouldn't expect. And LC has made some comments that the LC I used to know would have never, ever made as a civvie. (Granted, I haven't played with him in a while, but I still feel like it's a pretty huge deviation of his character.) It's also possible that LC is making leaps based on his role, and is not mafia, just so happens he's using Ika as his leap. This is something I could see LC doing. He's good at using someone's role against them. Asshat. :P I guess I'll just have to see how Ika pans out before I can decide for sure.

JJJ - To me, it's best to keep Epig in our back pockets until we know more about the win conditions and actually search for another possible mafia. If we lynch him tomorrow, it's doubtful he'd actually die which lets another mafia live another day and we've effectively given the mafia two night kills without us actually doing anything. (Although tonight's night kill might change some mind on that. It'll be interesting to see who they choose.) Like I said, I'm leaning towards Ika. My suspish are Ika, Lunar, LC, polo in that order for reasons previously stated.

G-Man. LOLLLLLLLLL. I'll poke you! Interested to see your thoughts. I used to be so good at reading you and this game I haven't even the slightest read on you.

Lunar, I'd like a reply to my earlier posts to you, please.

I'd like to hear more from Black Rock, SVS, Juliet, Zebra, LoRab, and nutella. Bak in the day I knew you guys to be very vocal. I feel haven't seen much from you guys. (Then again, with only a hand full of people dominating the thread, I guess it's going to make it seem like everyone else is quiet regardless of their actual contribution, especially when so much time is spent just trying to catch up on how many "no you!"s we have on each page.)

Polo wrote:ObscureAllure, you have yet to respond why you're suspicious of me even when I'm the one who provided everyone with the "Olympic Carrier" information which proved absolutely vital for decrypting the cypher.

Actually I did. It was because you A) ignored me when I said that the r had to equal t, misentered other letters, and after you said "olympic carrier" you immediately after took out the olympic part

Polo wrote:CARRIER! THE OLYMPIC CARRIER
FOCCTUC IS CARRIER
USE THAT NOW

Ok so here we have both words

Polo wrote:T~ ~~~ a~~’r audrc~~ rhu ~n~~~tf Focctuc t~~uatorun~ ~~~ itnn d~~~uc
T~ ~~~ a~~'s oudsr~~ sh~ ~n~~~~f Carrier i~~uoiasen~ ~~~ itnn d~~~ur

F=C
O=A
C=R
T=I
U=E

Here you remove carrier. Also, note that you wrote in r = s into th quote after I had already pointed out like five times that r MUST equal t. Plus, you mixed letters we know with letters that were ciphers, making it a mixture of real letters and fake letters. All making it harder to guess.

And, you voted for LoRab because she didn't contribute enough, even though most people weren't contributing and you offered no other reason for LoRab over the others. Felt like a baddie trying to hide his vote.

EBWOP: here you remove OLYMPIC, not carrier. sorry.

Polo wrote:

ObscureAllure wrote:

Polo wrote:ObscureAllure, you have yet to respond why you're suspicious of me even when I'm the one who provided everyone with the "Olympic Carrier" information which proved absolutely vital for decrypting the cypher.

Actually I did. It was because you A) ignored me when I said that the r had to equal t, misentered other letters, and after you said "olympic carrier" you immediately after took out the olympic part

Polo wrote:CARRIER! THE OLYMPIC CARRIER
FOCCTUC IS CARRIER
USE THAT NOW

Ok so here we have both words

Polo wrote:T~ ~~~ a~~’r audrc~~ rhu ~n~~~tf Focctuc t~~uatorun~ ~~~ itnn d~~~uc
T~ ~~~ a~~'s oudsr~~ sh~ ~n~~~~f Carrier i~~uoiasen~ ~~~ itnn d~~~ur

F=C
O=A
C=R
T=I
U=E

Here you remove carrier. Also, note that you wrote in r = s into th quote after I had already pointed out like five times that r MUST equal t. Plus, you mixed letters we know with letters that were ciphers, making it a mixture of real letters and fake letters. All making it harder to guess.

And, you voted for LoRab because she didn't contribute enough, even though most people weren't contributing and you offered no other reason for LoRab over the others. Felt like a baddie trying to hide his vote.

What I did there was copy and paste what I had hastily done on Windows Notepad.

Like I said, it was a small day one suspish, and I really didnt have much else to go on. Your actions afterwards (calling out those who broke the rules, for example) were what kept you on the list.

DrumBeats wrote:Currently catching up. In regards to the disagreement about the checkerboard method I said, it is objectively the best way to do it if we do not know if they can be longer than one sector. I fully support randomizing it or moving in diagonals rather than the sweeping way we're doing it right now.

Silverwolf wrote:I'm just going to throw this link in here: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=61545

This is a Battlestar Galactica game on another site where cylons were the bad guys and humans were good.

If you look at the roles though, in this one Boomer, who is one of the cylons in this game, is town. This further proves imo that not all cylons are scum. Additionally, if anyone hasn't said their opinion on this topic please do so now.

Actually, I'd like to hear your opinion on other players. What are you feeling? Anyone note worthy on your list good or bad?

Is it just me or did loran and Nutella do back to back posts out of no where twice?

EBWOP Lorab. Sorry, phone autocorrect sucks

SO SAY WE ALL (love ice cream)

Polo wrote:So Say We All.


So, Ricochet's face was on the top as well. Does this mean that he was voted to be NK'ed along with Ika?

Didn't Golden already say that the stories weren't to be taken at face value

LC: If you would have been online in time, would you have offered the next scheduled spot or picked one of your own?

Matt wrote:So Say We All!

Just finished catching up.

RIP ika, if you were good.

Let's poke Obscure. So how do you know Zebra, OA?

I've played with her before (assuming it's the same zebra as the old sites)... I played with you then, too (also assuming you're the same Matt) What relevance does that have to this game?

That's a very specific question for you to have just randomly asked it. If you're asking how I know her in this game, I don't. She hasn't posted much and what she has posted has been very random sounding. And I have no powers that would allow me to "know" her. So if you have reason to suspect a connection, I can assure you it wasn't from my end.

I played on STV, RM, and piano with this group. On at least one of those sites there was a zebra but it wasn't the same user name, I think it was just zebra. Assuming it's the same person. If I am wrong, apologies. Still don't know how this relates to this game though?!

What's a socky

indiglo wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:

indiglo wrote:

juliets wrote:Send sortie to C3

Good work!

Up next at 5:49pm EST we have no one scheduled. If anyone wants to cover it, feel free to speak up.

LC, would you like to take that timeslot? If you're unavailable I will do my best to cover it if no one else volunteers.

I can do it. It's good to have a name in there. What sector again? Checkerboard pattern?

Unless someone tells me differently I'll do F4 at the next time of 5:49 PM Eastern.

Awesome! I'm happy to take the 11:49pm EST today also. I'll set a reminder on my phone if I'm not already here. Thanks G-Man

>May 8, 11:47 pm EST - ika, A1
>May 9, 5:47 5:49 am EST - ika, A3
>May 9, 11:49 am EST - indiglo, A5 LC, D5
>May 9, 5:49 pm EST - Silverwolf, A5
>May 9, 11:49 pm EST - Marmot, E3
>May 10, 5:49 am EST - SVS, B2
>May 10, 11:49 am EST - juliets, C3

May 10, 5:49 pm EST - SW, F4
May 10, 11:49 pm EST - indiglo
May 11, 5:49 am EST - Rico
May 11, 11:49 am EST - G-Man
May 11, 5:49 pm EST -
May 11, 11:49 pm EST -


A1 A2 A3 A4 A5 A6
B1 B2 B3 B4 B5 B6
C1 C2 C3 C4 C5 C6
D1 D2 D3 D4 D5 D6
E1 E2 E3 E4 E5 E6
F1 F2 F3 F4 F5 F6

I think we should try either E1 or F6 just because those are in areas of dead space that a larger ship could easily fit. IMO, it would give us a better chance of hitting something large. (If it's small, then it doesn't really matter where we hit but those areas are still the most open.)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:My opinion of what ika is: dead.

Moving on.

For serious.

I'm fairly sure I know who I'm voting for today already, I'm just going to wait a while before I say it to see what else they offer me in way of evidence.

FWIW, I think it's odd that the mafia would take out Ika because Ika was probably getting lynched today. Why waste a kill like that? I hate to go all WIFOM but as a mafia, I'd never, ever night kill a player who was stirring the pot and everyone was threatening to lynch the next day. Makes me think either that wasn't the mafia, it wasn't planned that way, or they just really got sick of reading the back and forth. I suppose the last option is the most likely one, but still. Something I'm tucking away for now.

EBWOP or B6 or F2. Just somewhere in those large gaps.

juliets wrote:

S~V~S wrote:When Epi was then lynched & revealed, in retrospect, I thought that maybe he WANTED to be lynched becasue he knew he would come back & be revealed a friendly Cylon

As of this point in time I believe Epi to be a town friendly cylon. I'm having difficulty with suspicions though. Nobody is standing out. I'm going to read nutella to see if I can buy JJJ's case. Besides JJJ with nutella has anyone else got a strong feeling about anyone? (OA I saw your suspicion of LC and someone else - I'm going into your posts to refresh myself on the "why" of your suspicions.)

I'm leaving my current suspicion in my pocket until much closer to the vote. Want to gather more evidence before I present my case.

Why does everyone keep linking me to Zebra?! Matt asked me if I knew Zebra out of the blue. I said I remember zebra from years ago when I played. Since then Matt has gone all obsessive about it and now others are chiming in... Is it not the same zebra from RM or piano? And if it's not, I'm still
Missing why you guys are so weirdly obsessed by it? It's been like three years since I've played and I didn't actually say anything about zebra other than answering Matt when he asked if I remember her. Why are y'all acting so damn weird?!

Somewhere back there asked me to link to the two examples I mentioned of LoRab and Nutella answering back to back after I mentioned them. I'm on my phone right now and I'm too lazy to do that on the phone but i will in the morning.

Also, I'm not afraid to say it, I'm pretty darn sure Epi is town. Cylon or not, I think he's town. I also think drum beats is. Probably Silber and JJJ are (although it had nothing to do with their opinions of me that I saw they posted, ironically, just so happens they have mentioned me today.) I think Lorab and Nutella have BTSC although that in itself doesn't make them bad if they do, always possible to have townie BTSC. I think a couple of people are bad but again, I'll wait a bit longer until I let that out of the bag officially. Although Matt's weird ass obsession with an off topic and unrelated to this game comment I made is kind of remembering past players from when I played at the other sites is kind of starting to freak me out. I also remember about half of these players and spent years in the mafia trenches with them. Don't know what that has to do with this game?!

Actually I'll just come out and ask it again since you ignored me last time. Spill it, Matt. What's your weird ass obsession with me remembering Zebra? What does it have to do with this game? And why are you obsessed with it? Spill it. If it's important enough for you to mention this many times, go ahead and say why it's so important. Not even joking when I say you're weirdo get me out.

Linki: because right now it's more feelings than in thread evidence and if I say who they will change their behaviors and I'll lose the chance at more evidence.

Good lort almighty, I honestly don't get what that could possibly have to do with this game but I'll bite. I just went and looked at the members list at RM and you're right, I was thinking Zelda. My bad. http://forum.revolutionmafia.com/member ... ofile&u=42 Again, still don't possibly understand what bearing that could possibly have on this game in any way shape or form but if that's your game, roll with it

Also - Nutella
I posted before, felt like when I mentioned you guys, one said to the other to go post and y'all came to post together. Doesn't mean for sure BTSC, doesn't mean for sure mafia. Just something I noticed.

Fine - I can't link to all the posts because I'm not searching on my phone. So bear with me.

I think long con is bad. I've seen play from him this game that I would never have expected from the LC I used to know. He has seemed panicked multiple times and his whole jumping in thing felt like a save, with his "oh look how much of a funny asshole I am" as a save. Again, I'm not searching on my
Phone for posts to support this right now. He also hinted to wanting to try and lynch Epi again when I believe Epi to be town and we knew he'd just be resurrected anyway. And I know I'm an idiot for mentioning it because if there's one thing that man can do, it's turn a whole mob against someone who suspects him in two seconds flat with no evidence.

I think there's a possibility that Lorab and Nutella are bad, but again not a lot of evidence. Just felt like their comments were BTSCish.

I admit that Matt's weird thing pinged me, but what was weirder was that one or two people afterwards were like "yeah! What he said!" Felt very much like teammates trying to support his weird accusation (which I still don't get what he was actually trying to accuse me of?!) it might have been Juliet? Don't remember now and too lazy to search on this thing.

Already said why Polo, and added to that he's been trying to base suspicion using Goldens posts after golden said twice they were Jay's for story purposes.

Oh and missed the second part of your Q... I'm reluctant to share because I haven't played in a while and so I'm relearning people's play styles. And by posting it I open myself Up for back lash which I wasn't ready for yet because I didn't have strong evidence on any of them. Said that before but I'll repeat it now for clarity. I've never seen so many people "know" so much about other players and their play style as what I've seen people say this game. I don't know if it's unique to this game, or if it's how mafia has changed over the years, but day one and day two used to be very little actual knowledge and more so poking and prodding people. If you read this thread, you're all claiming to be masters of judging each other's play styles and it's just... Different than the mafia I used to play with many of these people. Trying to understand why the difference and what it means towards game play.

And didn't expect anyone to agree right now, especially with out be quoting and linking, but you demanded the post so I delivered.

Epignosis wrote:

ObscureAllure wrote:Oh and missed the second part of your Q... I'm reluctant to share because I haven't played in a while and so I'm relearning people's play styles. And by posting it I open myself Up for back lash which I wasn't ready for yet because I didn't have strong evidence on any of them. Said that before but I'll repeat it now for clarity. I've never seen so many people "know" so much about other players and their play style as what I've seen people say this game. I don't know if it's unique to this game, or if it's how mafia has changed over the years, but day one and day two used to be very little actual knowledge and more so poking and prodding people. If you read this thread, you're all claiming to be masters of judging each other's play styles and it's just... Different than the mafia I used to play with many of these people. Trying to understand why the difference and what it means towards game play.

I will never understand why so much stock is put in "playstyle." If you are that predictable and you are incapable of shaking things up, go play something else. Mafia is not for you.

RIGHT?!?! Seriously! It's weird seeing everyone say "well when x is townie he's always like this and when he's mafia he's always like this!" And it's not one person, beaucoup people have said it this game. If it's so easy to tell who is who then why don't we have a full complete list that everyone agrees on and why are we playing this game?! I enjoy the fact that many of these people are very hard to read because it makes it fun. Sure, you're bound to compare a little but this game has been full of experts. Not something I remember from the past, for sure.

Whoa! Calm down! Epi was just responding to me, and I was just saying if you already know from day one who everyone is, there's no point in playing the game because you already know. I wasn't specifically referring to you or Ika, there were tons of people who said similar things. And yet for as good as everyone seems to be, no one agrees on who is what so obviously everyone isn't as good as they claim. Lol. Was light hearted discussion, no reason to freak out. If you're mad get mad at me as I said it, Epi just was replying to me.

Polo wrote:

ObscureAllure wrote:Already said why Polo, and added to that he's been trying to base suspicion using Goldens posts after golden said twice they were Jay's for story purposes.

Poop. Golden said it once, and I was merely kidding when I mentioned Ricochet by the end of N1.

There's a gun pointed at your head. Would you lynch Long Con today?

If I had a gun at my head right now, I'd vote DFaraday. He's been lurking and has only posted 3 times in the thread. I know it's a vote with not much substance but my gut don't like it.

If I had to pick from the list I gave you, he's definitely top of it but more so for gut feeling than evidence in the thread. Although no one has to hold a gun to my head to make me vote. I will vote for someone willingly tomorrow with out that motivation requirement. Lol.


Linki: dude Matt you were going all stalker on me so I don't want to hear it. You STILL never gave me a good reason why the zebra thing had any impact or affect on this game what so ever?!

Indiglo, thanks for the compliments. Although I was a shit player then and no doubt I'll still be a shit player now so don't put too much stock in my play style or opinions. Lol. (Did I ever tell you about the time that LC tricked me for like three weeks into thinking that he was my townie BTSC partner when he was actually mafia and playing me? And I totally believed him and even followed his mafia will unknowingly? Yeah... I'm not always spot on in my assessments. Lol)

indiglo wrote:

G-Man wrote:Another hour to go before the submission. Let's talk some more about it. Finishing sorting my notes and then I'll throw out some sector options. We'll talk lynch votes when I'm at lunch.

Saw this before I logged off. What about that lower left corner? It hasn't really been touched yet at all.

But at this point, I think it's just as likely a ship is stuffed somewhere in between other, already searched sectors.

Gee, that was helpful.


Linki w/Scotty - Ok, I'll mark you down. So far, Golden has replied to those questions with a shrug. So... LOL

I've suggested E1 twice because that end of the board is so empty. Guess either no one noticed.