The Syndicate

Polo wrote:My vote proably goes to LoRab. LoRab has been watching but only made one non-constructive post during our attempt to save our asses.

Silverwolf wrote:

ika wrote:ok now i have light town read on silver.

im getting tired too

silver can i call soon we should need sleep

Already?

I do like your engagement and posting level so far and am also lightly townreading you as well as Polo and DrumBeats for actively trying to game solve and DrumBeats is already scumhunting.

The way I play, for those that don't know, is I try to find town if I don't have a good scumread so I can narrow things down.

Very minor FoS on SVS and Gman for posting but saying nothing of substance. I'd like to see more here since they were around and didn't do anything to solve the puzzle.

Golden wrote:A message has been intercepted which may help us be rid of the cylons. However, little can be read.

Each person may name one letter. First three letters named in the thread will be added to the cypher.

You have 33 minutes to solve it.

~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~~~ ~~ ~~~~~~ ~~ ~~~ ~~~~~~ ~~~~~

Ricochet wrote:SVS, I think FoS means Finger of Suspicion.

juliets wrote:

Matt wrote:

juliets wrote:I don't know who these "toasters" are because I've never seen the show. Can someone give me an explanation?

Ping!

in the time it took juliets to say this, she could've googled "battlestar galactica" and "toasters" and probably come up with the answer herself. Hrm.

But right now, my FoS (as people have called it) is squarely on RicoTech.

I did google battlestar galactica and couldnt find it. I googled battlestar galactica toasters and I got toasters that had galactica emblems or something on them. So i asked.

Polo wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Re puzzle solvers: Civvies or cred seekers. Golden said there were limited chances to solve and time limits. I would guess that would mean negative consequences for NOT solving since I don't see positive results for having solved it (unless the puzzle solvers got something not publicized in thread). His initial post doesn't mention consequence or reward.

Golden wrote:A message has been intercepted which may help us be rid of the cylons. However, little can be read.

Each person may name one letter. First three letters named in the thread will be added to the cypher.

You have 33 minutes to solve it.

~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~~~ ~~ ~~~~~~ ~~ ~~~ ~~~~~~ ~~~~~

I don't doubt baddies would white knight on the puzzle solving for cred to the point of solving it; I have seen people, notably aapje, doing this in the past. Especially if you are someone people expect it of. So I won't give people special cred for doing it BUT with no mention of consequences, I don't see a motivation for Scotty or polo specifically to do it since their puzzleyness is unknown to most of us. I would not expect it of them, so I would not have noticed it had they not.

There is in fact mention of consequence; read the roles again:

Golden wrote:
Galen Tyrol – Tyrol is the chief mechanic on board Galactica. Periodically, Galactica will come under Cylon attack. As long as Tyrol is alive, he will hold Galactica together and attacks will have no effect. If Tyrol is dead, however, Cylon attacks on Galactica have a chance of causing the death of an occupant on the Galactica, and a small chance of causing the destruction of Galactica and everyone on board.

Of course, we all know Galen Tyrol is alive and kicking, but we all need to be used to the solving these puzzles because Galen Tyrol may die any die and the only way we could be able to save our butts could be to solve these things.

Better to get used to it now than later!

Ricochet wrote:Not sure if I should say the salute, after SVS said it. Then again, she didn't salute properly Admiral Goldama herself, so it's prolly nothing to follow protocol.

G-Man, outing is forbidden, so there's not much to discuss about your fake claim, except if a modkill happens to come up next.

1) After either the Admiral or your esteemed host addresses the colonies and ends the address with "So Say We All", your first post MUST begin with “So Say We All”, or else you may be guilty of treason, punishable by time in the brig, or other punishments up to and including death, and by generally being branded a cylon sympathiser by the rest of the population.

Nerolunar wrote:

Inawordyes wrote:
Quick observations: I've got a town read on Sikverwolf and - and I completely acknowledge that I'm being a hypocrite in thinking this, btw - a slight scum read on Nerolunar. He popped in and out in the same manor I did/am doing, but I have conformation bias on my side to know why I couldn't be here. Was at a family gathering of sorts all day. He just basically said "I can't be here, here's my post, see ya later". It feels like making an excuse not to post, which isn't good for a multitude of reasons and at best is anti-town. I'm also probably overthinking this too haha.

Normally, because I'm used to it culturally, I'd vote him to get him to talk, but I can't do that here because votes, once cast, are permanent (if I read correctly), so I'm gonna put a big FoS on Nero and hopefully he'll say or will have said more stuff.

I realized that the thread was open the moment I was about to leave to visit my grandpa. Minor ping on you for thinking that not immediately involving you guys in my private life is "anti-town at best" You admit to overthinking it too, yet places a FoS on me. Oh well.

Silverwolf wrote:OK, I don't know why I am infuriating Rico. That seems a bit much really. However, his rebuttal to me looks like genuine frustration so when I go through ISO's and try to get a few reads, I may have to reconsider my scumread on him. I may vote SVS today instead. We'll see.

Ithink you are infuriating Rico becasue he is cornered,tbh. And don't vote me let me at least get started.

Townreads so far:

Indiglo - looks just like Turf Wars
Drumbeats - Seems really transparent and genuine
Ika - Looks like usual Ika.

Scumreads:

Epignosis - Is usually more vocal iirc.
Inawordyes - see above
SVS - something is off, and I don´t know what.

Well, Im much more confident about my townreads than my scumreads. Lots of players Im not used to play with.

Nerolunar wrote:

Inawordyes wrote:
Quick observations: I've got a town read on Sikverwolf and - and I completely acknowledge that I'm being a hypocrite in thinking this, btw - a slight scum read on Nerolunar. He popped in and out in the same manor I did/am doing, but I have conformation bias on my side to know why I couldn't be here. Was at a family gathering of sorts all day. He just basically said "I can't be here, here's my post, see ya later". It feels like making an excuse not to post, which isn't good for a multitude of reasons and at best is anti-town. I'm also probably overthinking this too haha.

Normally, because I'm used to it culturally, I'd vote him to get him to talk, but I can't do that here because votes, once cast, are permanent (if I read correctly), so I'm gonna put a big FoS on Nero and hopefully he'll say or will have said more stuff.

I realized that the thread was open the moment I was about to leave to visit my grandpa. Minor ping on you for thinking that not immediately involving you guys in my private life is "anti-town at best" You admit to overthinking it too, yet places a FoS on me. Oh well.

Townreads so far:

Indiglo - looks just like Turf Wars
Drumbeats - Seems really transparent and genuine
Ika - Looks like usual Ika.

Scumreads:

Epignosis - Is usually more vocal iirc.
Inawordyes - see above
SVS - something is off, and I don´t know what.

Well, Im much more confident about my townreads than my scumreads. Lots of players Im not used to play with.

Silverwolf wrote:OK, I don't know why I am infuriating Rico. That seems a bit much really. However, his rebuttal to me looks like genuine frustration so when I go through ISO's and try to get a few reads, I may have to reconsider my scumread on him. I may vote SVS today instead. We'll see.

Ricochet wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

Ricochet wrote:Not sure if I should say the salute, after SVS said it. Then again, she didn't salute properly Admiral Goldama herself, so it's prolly nothing to follow protocol.

G-Man, outing is forbidden, so there's not much to discuss about your fake claim, except if a modkill happens to come up next.

What?

1) After either the Admiral or your esteemed host addresses the colonies and ends the address with "So Say We All", your first post MUST begin with “So Say We All”, or else you may be guilty of treason, punishable by time in the brig, or other punishments up to and including death, and by generally being branded a cylon sympathiser by the rest of the population.

This is the rule. Why would it be an issue saying it after I said it? Someone earlier (G Man,maybe?) said they were gonna say it every post,and that kinda makes sense to me since there are punishments and I already will be getting one.

Why are you so obsessed on this point? To look involved?

I'm not obsessed and I was joking.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I'll acknowledge a minor ping on S~V~S, who has been present to discuss puzzle solving and theme-relevant things, but hasn't quite engaged in reads-relevant interaction. By that I mean she hasn't provided a read or the framework for a read, and I don't know that she has said anything yet that boasts much promise to produce a read.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I think I'll hand an early town read over to Ricochet too. It's his style to plant himself into discussion with his own perspective and then pointedly contest the perspectives of others that differ (this is not a criticism, I do the same thing). His tone is perhaps a bit more defiant, perhaps even grumpy, but I don't think that's alignment-reflective. I certainly don't think it's a problem that he has offered point-and-counterpoint contests to Matt's theories, because that's exactly what Rico does in Mafia.

I don't think I am inclined to give Matt any similar sort of pseudo-meta credit, because he proved in the 2015 GOC that wild theorizing is a characteristic of everything Matt, not town Matt.

G-Man wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

G-Man wrote:All this back-and-forth reminds me of my tinnitius-it's distracting and even annoying at times but there's no avoiding it so you just have to work through it. I've got notes on only about 1/3 of the players so far. I'm in no position to judge because my participation has been minimal up to now but sheesh. Big game is big and quiet players are quiet.

If you're willing to share those notes, assuming they're about reads alone, then that'd be swell. It'd be something substantive to discuss instead of whatever we've had for the last 600 posts.

As long as me posting my notes gets me at least a mild town read from the mighty JJJ, I'll gladly share.

DrumBeats stood out initially for jumping right in and requesting a letter without any discussion. It was a rush to judgement that was poor but, given that nobody (I assume) knew the puzzle was ciphered, it's far from indicative. Being helpful on a puzzle is neither here nor there, really. At least he picked what is normally a high-frequency letter.

Epignosis also jumped right in an declared a letter for the puzzle. He picked E, which I assume served a dual purpose- his name begins with E and it's the highest-frequency letter (not just vowel) in the English language. He tried a few guesses and we haven't head from him since. It's Epi, so I'm resisting the natural impulse to assume he's up to no good.

Ika said someone silenced him but for how long? I assume that it had something to do with not following the rules. He seemed willfully defiant of the voting rules, which is odd, given that votes are not changeable. And a loving eye-roll for the heated discussion of how he knows Silverwolf on an ESP kind of level. I remember that from E.S.T. Mafia and I've come to know quite quickly just to not get caught up in that. Smile and nod.

JaggedJimmyJay got some kudos in my book for not handing out town cred just for helping on the puzzle. I had an eyebrow twitch when he said he wasn't going to do the usual JJJ ISO rallies of awesomeness that he is loved/hated for but that hasn't crossed over into concern yet. I thought your early Toaster Reads on DrumBeats and Silverwolf were intriguing but I will have to go back at some point to remember why (I wrote that note hours ago and this game is proceeding too fast for me to remember much of anything).

LoRab shared my notice of Ika's voting noncompliance but I thought she may have been a little too quick to jab at him with it in the thread. Full disclosure- I am always prone to suspecting her. For some reason my suspiciometer (pronounced suh-spish-E-ah-mi-ter) has always been hardwired against her. She was the first person I noticed that suggested the Toasters might not have BTSC. At first I thought it was a strange point to throw out there but the more others have discussed the potential for atypical setup structure, the more I try to see this as honest conjecture. She fell into the Ika-knows-Silverwolf trap too.

Metalmarsh89 seemed initially silly but that Epi vote out of nowhere for no reason has me scratching my head. His posts haven't bore much substance but I feel like that's not out of the ordinary for him. That barking marmot gif he posted felt a little passive-aggressive though.

Matt is an enigma to me. I've played very few games (possibly only one?) with him and I believe I've been wrong about him every time. His early suggestion of Scotty doing the puzzle as a cred grab is bold and probably a little too Keyser Soze for Day 1 (and believe me, I know Keyser Soze). His opinion that some humans might be on the mafia team also seems far-fetched. Maybe I'm reading the separation between Humans and Toasters too literally but it's a convenient way to read the roles for me for now. To his credit, he's not afraid to throw some crazy ideas out there that might make people look at him like he's got two heads (or maybe just a robotic head). It would be easier to keep those crazy ideas to himself but perhaps Matt is known for that by now and people would be suspicious of him for not doing so.

Polo seemed to be very adept at solving the cipher. He also threw out civ cred a little quickly for those helping on the cipher. There was a brief back-and-forth with ObscureAllure (who I remember from a forum long long ago as a confident and headstrong player with a lot of grit and spit) but I don't know how much to read into that, if at all.

Ricochet is a developing read. I would have thought he'd have noted from hosting E.S.T. that arguing with Ika about Silverwolf is a fools errand. He rejected the notion that humans could be mafia from the start but he thinks it's possible that there could be two BTSC groups amidst Team Toaster. The latter is an interesting theory based off of the name colors in the role list. Has anyone split those names out yet between red and green?

Silverwolf said she was suspicious of S~V~S and I for not helping with the puzzle. That's all I have for her. I just like to keep tabs on who suspects me.

That's all the notes I have for now. Other players have posted but nothing gave me a noteworthy impression just yet. I'll start back a few pages tonight if I can and see if anything else jumps out at me.

G-Man said: As long as me posting my notes gets me at least a mild town read from the mighty JJJ, I'll gladly share.

Matt is an enigma to me. I've played very few games (possibly only one?) with him and I believe I've been wrong about him every time. His early suggestion of Scotty doing the puzzle as a cred grab is bold and probably a little too Keyser Soze for Day 1 (and believe me, I know Keyser Soze). His opinion that some humans might be on the mafia team also seems far-fetched. Maybe I'm reading the separation between Humans and Toasters too literally but it's a convenient way to read the roles for me for now. To his credit, he's not afraid to throw some crazy ideas out there that might make people look at him like he's got two heads (or maybe just a robotic head). It would be easier to keep those crazy ideas to himself but perhaps Matt is known for that by now and people would be suspicious of him for not doing so.

ika wrote:

S~V~S wrote:
In all sincerity & with respect, could you let us learn to get our own reads on the two of you? This is literally all you talk about, ika. We are smart people, we will figure it out.

are you saying im dumb? as for sorting her, you guys can, you jsut have to be quicker then me on sorting her, i sort her first in any game in 3-5 pages when we play together. i mean i have leaned off on shouting it so much but i will still make her my first read

Silverwolf wrote:

S~V~S wrote: Ithink you are infuriating Rico becasue he is cornered,tbh. And don't vote me let me at least get started.

This is not a terrible point.

I hate being indecisive.

What does anyone think of Epi? He's usually more involved as town.

Epignosis wrote:I am going to name some people I think are good and some people I think are bad. Old school style.

ika
MM
Matt

That's three I think are good.

Three I think are bad?

Ricochet
Drumbeats
G-Man

That something for 3J. Knock yourself out man. I'm tired after today.

Ricochet wrote:What is "null scum"?

I have rehearsals in an hour, after which I'll be around as much as possible for the EoD. I'm getting a real vibe now out of SVS waking up this morning and seeing an opportunity to point a stab at me, with farfetched analysis on top. I'll need to correlate this with the rest of her activity.

ika wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:

ika wrote:now that you mention thelist thing, it reminds me of a lot of old FM games where scums would litarly only post lists and stuff to look town

It's busy work and I don't get the point of it. It looks helpful but is it?

no, realistically its not helpful. to further explain, in the FM games people would just make a giant chart of everyone's claims/flips/ect and thats all they would do. when they got suspicion thrown on them they would just do "OH IM MAKING A LIST"

i know i have done it before as well as scum

DrumBeats wrote:Ok, so after catching up, I'll do a basic 3/3 list as well for information's sake.

Good:

JJJ
ika
G-Man

Toastery:

Rico
Vompatti
LoRab

FoS: Ricochet

Richochet has been arguably the most vocal player this game, but looking back, Ricochet has provided nothing with his/her many posts. The only thing Rico did was attempt to discredit basically every other post. This is a very proscum approach because its sole purpose is to reduce town information. Rico has not provided a single town/toaster read iirc. In all of those posts, there is no reason to have no reads at all imo. I don't know meta, so I can't judge based on that, but nothing about this behavior strikes me as protown.

We're only about halfway (?) through the day though, so I'll hold my vote for now until later. Currently, my vote would rest with my FoS unless there is a convincing argument for somebody else later in the day.

Long Con wrote: Epi is bad and MM is not.

Rico is probably Civ.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

G-Man wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

G-Man wrote:I just like to keep tabs on who suspects me.

Why is that?

Astute note-taking on suspicions can be helpful. I've called a few people out in games past for suspecting me early and then buddying up to me later or vice versa. They aren't always baddies but it's nice to call people out on BS from time to time.

Town read on G-Man.

sig wrote:
linki: That is a good question LC regarding smiles, I've never thought about it for a meta thing. I guess I use them more as a civ? Also why would I indicate my own scummieness? That would be silly.

sig wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

sig wrote:
linki: That is a good question LC regarding smiles, I've never thought about it for a meta thing. I guess I use them more as a civ? Also why would I indicate my own scummieness? That would be silly.

I was told once that pretty posts with lots of smileys and no typos were my big baddie tell. I cared about what I said more whne I was bad so I proofread it and dressed it up more.

I disagree with this, I think I pay equal attention to my posts (spelling wise) regardless of alignment, in fact I might be less likely to as mafia since I can meta defend myself. For smiles I like to use them and I think it is silly to try and put to much weight in whether it is a baddie tell or not.

Golden wrote:Player List

Alive

a2thezebra - post history
Bea - post history
Black Rock
DFaraday - post history
DrumBeats - post history
Epignosis - post history
Glorfindel - post history
G-Man - post history
ika - post history
inawordyes - post history
Indiglo - post history
JaggedJimmyJay - post history
juliets - post history
Long Con - post history
LoRab - post history
Marmot - post history
Matt - post history
Nerolunar - post history
nutella - post history
ObscureAllure - post history
Polo - post history
Ricochet - post history
S~V~S - post history
Scotty - post history
sig - post history
Silverwolf - post history
SokothQultuq - post history
Spacedaisy - post history
Vompatti - post history

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

G-Man wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

G-Man wrote:I just like to keep tabs on who suspects me.

Why is that?

Astute note-taking on suspicions can be helpful. I've called a few people out in games past for suspecting me early and then buddying up to me later or vice versa. They aren't always baddies but it's nice to call people out on BS from time to time.

Town read on G-Man.

Now see,I got the exact opposite from this. G Man wis not a punch puller, and these reads are ALL pulled punches. The more I ISO the pair, the more I put G-Man in front of Rico.

Why do you think this is town?

When G-Man provided his longer array of player notes that have drawn the ire of some (to include yourself, Silverwolf, and I believe Epignosis), I didn't feel it was a bad or good looking post. I actually asked him to share whatever notes he had logged and he complied, so I don't think there was a serious need for those notes to develop into conclusive reads rather than simply being notes. I asked him for something and he gave me that something.

The small piece I pulled from that larger post (the very first quote above) was of separate interest to me because it represented a curious mindset that I don't think I've had as a townie on many occasions if any. I asked him to expand, and he did: he said he was keeping tabs on those who suspected him now as a comparative tool for later interactions in case something changes (meaning his notes function quite like a reads spreadsheet that someone else might keep), and I thought that was a believable answer. Granted, with a second look I'd say it's probably not deserving of quite the frank "town read" I supplied before -- but I'm making a pointed effort to take as many stances as I can because I absolutely hate calling anyone a "neutral read".

To Silverwolf and S~V~S (and anyone else who suspects G-Man for his lengthy notes post):

Given the knowledge that I asked him to supply those notes, is your immediate reception of those notes affected in any way?

As long as me posting my notes gets me at least a mild town read from the mighty JJJ, I'll gladly share.

Ricochet wrote:I am getting sleepy, I have classes and rehearsals tomorrow and the 6am EoD is impossible for me anyway, so I'll cut it short by saying I would mainly pursue two leads toDay. MetalMarsh for what I've already said. His moves so far are fluff and his vote screams pure slap something on the voteboard. Indeed one can for sure put an alignment indicator on this, nevertheless I have grown increasingly weary of such shenanigans from him and he has a healthy record of being scum or indy and pulling antics or zero-invested actions. Tell me what I should see, if you think otherwise.

Second would be SVS, also for things I've said, but I'll sum it up. Her reaction to being called out for flubbing Rule 1 seems tense, to the point of not even taking a joke for what it is anymore. But more seriously, my interaction with her, on the subject of suspecting me, ended up giving me the real sense of her possibly finding an opening to dig me up, plus her argumentation being seriously filled with misrepresentation. Out of these two leads, the former is a so-so, I'll admit, because civ SVS can equally twitch at her being referenced in ways she dislikes, but the latter for me gives me the vibe of SVS in games she was bad.

If pushing for a third name, purely based on what I managed to look into toDay, it would be zebra tbqh.

1.1. I am rather surprised to find SVS among those who have not replied to the admiral's address properly, considering she used to be a similar rulemaker herself, not long time ago. Meanwhile, ika made such a fuss about disobeying this rule, his post seems surprisingly prudent. I am not sure if consequences such as treason charges, brig time or death will be decided by the Host, but I guess the cylon suspecting part would be our task, right? Any thoughts on these two players, in particular?

indiglo wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote:Ok, I am back in San Antonio, but I still have not had time to read a single thing. And I want to spend the evening with my husband instead of reading a thousand posts. What is wrong with you people?! I randomized my vote between all those who already had votes and it came up Matt. Love you Matty, but I'm tossing my vote your way. Random.org has spoken!

Matt

I promise to start getting up to speed and play properly beginning tomorrow.

Just going to note that the probability of random.org landing your vote on a player who had already received a vote was 34%.

To be fair, she did say she randomized between all those who already had votes.

sig wrote:I'll light a candle for you and make sure to add you to my players.

SVS do you think EPi is civ?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:So say we all.

S~V~S wrote:How horrible

He wanted to die, and now he was rezzed? He is a rezzed baddie?

So say we all.

What makes you think he was rezzed as a baddie?

S~V~S wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:So say we all.

S~V~S wrote:How horrible

He wanted to die, and now he was rezzed? He is a rezzed baddie?

So say we all.

What makes you think he was rezzed as a baddie?

Isn't that role, Sharon Agaton,a baddie? She's a Cylon, right?

Epignosis wrote:I'll leave you with this: You lynched a civilian, even if you think you didn't.

Black Rock wrote:So say we all

Epignosis wrote:

Black Rock wrote:I voted for Marmot because I don't like his game. I would have voted Epig out of Mercy but he will have enough. I hope he's bad. I just don't see it.

I'm not. But this game is crazy.

Indeed. I'm not even sure if we have a mafia team.

SVS, what would make you ask if he was rezzed a baddie?

If by show, several of the humans are the final five in the show and Cylons.

Athena was Cylon but not evil.

That is in respnse to several linkis

Golden wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Golden, honrable host, it's incredibly late where I am, are all the event things going to be at similar times? Becasue I have to get up in 5 hours,and I have to leave.

The event was triggered by indiglo, not timed, but given only one mission can be made every 6 hours, being there at the time of the event being triggered is not overly important.

indiglo wrote:@Admiral Goldama - Will these sorties only last our 24 hour night period? Or will they continue throughout the game without end until Rezz Ship is destroyed?



Next, I'll be making a schedule list with times. Feel free to sign up if you like. I can keep track of it all in posts here.

Ricochet wrote:BTW, for sake of sanity and variation in our interactions, could we have a do over regarding the fact that I was initially influenced the believe the human-cylon war wiuld be at the heart of this design? Pweease?

linki: Could be. What is known so far hints at one side of the coin, not duality.

did you ever answer how Zarek being potential mafia would match with him being third in right to become President of the human race?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

ika wrote:

Polo wrote:
Are you taking this personally because of Epi's dialogue with Silverwolf or do you really think there's no way a Cylon's win condition cannot be the death of all humans?

I'm playing the Devil's advocate here, by the way. Every option is still a option to me and I believe one needs to tread carefully in the early stages of a game.

it it not personal at all, not one bit.

EPI IS SCUM, CYLON NEED TO, DIE NO QUESTIONS ASKED! IF I HAVE TO QUOTE SPAM THIS EVEY POST I WILL

Please don't spam the same thing over again. I do think we need to kill Epignosis again, I agree with you there. But I am not going into Day 2 with the mindset of lynching him. We may end up with the same result and that would be unproductive.

I'd rather see what these missions can procure for us, and search elsewhere in the process. Focusing on Epignosis won't help if there are seven other Cylons we need to eliminate.

ika wrote:

S~V~S wrote:
Why do you think this re needing to kill Epi, when all/most of the people familiar with the show seem to think otherwise?

oh gee i dunno maybe because THEY ARE SCUM. or that people who should watch it should know that not everyone likes the damn cylons?

EPI IS SCUM, CYLON NEED TO DIE, NO QUESTIONS ASKED!

Ricochet wrote:

SVS wrote:I thought that too, tbh. My first reaction was ZOMG rezzed baddie?!?

And maybe we can start over. Your later posts seemed less fluffy, and you really were freaking me out with that whole, "So weird that SVS forgot the salute" thing. Happy Future Punishment btw.

And I keep saying it since someone had said they were going to say it every post so as not to forget, and I thought that was a good idea since alot of punishments involve formatting and that is a bitch on phone and I don;t want to forget it again.

I dread the thought that we could lynch a Cylon on the bad side and he'll resurrect as well, as long as we don't destory the Resurrection Hub. All cylons share the characteristic of resurrecting back on the hub in a new copy. Speaking of that, Athena's location (teal color) curiously has not changed.

I was asking Matt that question, but I can make peace with anyone, sure Although I still genuinely saw a bit of baddie SVS trait in you trying to make a portrait out of me being "cornered", "civ tryhard" and such. Hrm.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Please don't spam the same thing over again. I do think we need to kill Epignosis again, I agree with you there. But I am not going into Day 2 with the mindset of lynching him. We may end up with the same result and that would be unproductive.

I'd rather see what these missions can procure for us, and search elsewhere in the process. Focusing on Epignosis won't help if there are seven other Cylons we need to eliminate.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

ika wrote:

Polo wrote:
Are you taking this personally because of Epi's dialogue with Silverwolf or do you really think there's no way a Cylon's win condition cannot be the death of all humans?

I'm playing the Devil's advocate here, by the way. Every option is still a option to me and I believe one needs to tread carefully in the early stages of a game.

it it not personal at all, not one bit.

EPI IS SCUM, CYLON NEED TO, DIE NO QUESTIONS ASKED! IF I HAVE TO QUOTE SPAM THIS EVEY POST I WILL

Please don't spam the same thing over again. I do think we need to kill Epignosis again, I agree with you there. But I am not going into Day 2 with the mindset of lynching him. We may end up with the same result and that would be unproductive.

I'd rather see what these missions can procure for us, and search elsewhere in the process. Focusing on Epignosis won't help if there are seven other Cylons we need to eliminate.

Why do you think this re needing to kill Epi, when all/most of the people familiar with the show seem to think otherwise?

Those people didn't chime in until after I stated my opinion last night.

I'll keep an open mind. I hope we can learn more information while we continue our hunt for the rezz ship.

Scotty said: I think indiglo has information that helped us here. It seems she knows more than she's letting on, and while I appreciate the legwork she's been doing on lore, I find the timing of the wiki article and "resurrection ship" article right after the night post...convenient. I'm not saying she's bad, but I am saying I feel that she knows more than she's letting on.