The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:If you need a replacement Golden, I'm always good to annoy... everyone. Mainly you though... amiright?

You missed an amazing Batman themed game here a few months ago. Absolutely stellar.

LoRab wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:If you need a replacement Golden, I'm always good to annoy... everyone. Mainly you though... amiright?

Holy shit!!!! Rabbit!!!!!!!!!!!

(ok, there are exceptions to the cursing rule...then again, I am quite used to self censoring curses because of my profession, and sometimes slip IRL, so there's that)

Golden wrote:Rabbit8 is replacing a2thezebra with immediate effect

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:

Golden wrote:Rabbit8 is replacing a2thezebra with immediate effect

The fallout will be fraking stupendous.

Hi rabbit.

Quick, without looking at anything other than what you have seen already... reads on the following people:

Glorfindel
JJJ
sig

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:No, I will be fully caught up by tonight/tomorrow morning. Pending on this 12 pack and the GS_OKC game. I have only been skimming the thread and would be doing no one any good.

Poo. Go ahead and do your thing. Zebra was stating highly confident reads on those three among living players so I was curious if you'd immediately sustain those reads.

Polo wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:Did anyone actually capture the polls or am I supposed to make a fraking vote list myself? Because I hate that shit...

Day 2 and 3 done.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... =60&t=1048

rabbit8 wrote:Frak your meta bullshit....

What the frak is ISO?

Epignosis wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:Frak your meta bullshit....

What the frak is ISO?

It's what the kids these days are calling your "in topic" posts.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:

Golden wrote:Rabbit8 is replacing a2thezebra with immediate effect

The fallout will be fraking stupendous.

Hi rabbit.

Quick, without looking at anything other than what you have seen already... reads on the following people:

Glorfindel
JJJ
sig

Black Rock wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Black Rock! I want an update on S~V~S and your accusation of her. What say you?

Sorry, I just spent the last 10 mins screaming at the top of my lungs at my selfish 17 year old. I think LC thinks I went insane.

I do need to get back on that track and expand on SVS. Really a lot of my thoughts are when she first came into the game she seemed to be Anti-Cylon. Like she thought it was the "in" thing. Then when a consensus came in that you were not evil she seemed to jump on the Cylon train. It just seems way to convenient and opportunistic. Which is words I would use to describe Mafia. I also do not trust any other listed Cylons. If the final five are like the final five of the show then I'm not too worried. I really don't know half the shit that's going on. I am with the humans (with the exception of your role), I do not trust Cylons.

I feel like I just did a tangent. My brain is filled with rage. Anyways SVS = opportunistic = no trust.

Although Black Rock =\= trusting Cylons is likely I will vote Dr Wilgy first. I do need to finish my catch up though.

ObscureAllure wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:Meta is the only thing to go on in this game for town to hunt baddies with, and even that is extremely flimsy even at its most useful. The game is naturally designed in favor of mafia because of this, because less is more here and no one should be left unquestioned. That's it.

linki - I know that's not what you said. I read what you said. I said something else to respond to it. Read.

And you've never played with me, but I'm a top suspect? I Have been right about Nutella, LoRab, Wigly all being cylons and was right about LC being bad and you have NO meta to go off of for me and I'm a top suspect. Not the CONFIRMED CYLON Wigly? Not Glor, who silver so unceremoniously hinted at night time knowledge about? (Not saying I agree with her doing it that way, but if the information is out there we might as well use it.)

I think your goal in the game is to stir the pot and say and do the exact opposite of what you actually feel. Or, you are one of the weirdest mafia players I've ever seen.

Polo wrote:Glorfindel's posts seem to be full of words but devoid of content.

Epignosis wrote:All of that raises this question: Does rabbit8 and Glorfindel have BTSC or some opening advantage with regard to each others' roles?

S~V~S wrote:Ah but you need to go back and read how I replied to that post of BRs you quoted, Rabbit. I DID think all cylons were bad at the start of the game. I never saw this show. No one made any mention of potential civ cylons until after Epi was rezzed that I can recall.

But about what I expected, Bugs

Just got home,reading back to this AM.

S~V~S wrote:Ah but you need to go back and read how I replied to that post of BRs you quoted, Rabbit. I DID think all cylons were bad at the start of the game. I never saw this show. No one made any mention of potential civ cylons until after Epi was rezzed that I can recall.

But about what I expected, Bugs

Just got home,reading back to this AM.

Matt wrote:Btw, in the show, the Final Five were actually good guys who still fought the Cylons after finding out who they really were. I don't know what impact that will have in the game, but just sayin'.

Matt wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Matt, do you genuinely suspect Scotty?

Well it's a little early, but I was pinged by it. But that's probably my paranoia and I'd be saying that about anyone who solved it.

As for the Final Five thing, I was thinking about the show, and realized that there's potentially one of the Final Five who could turn scum. Without giving too much away about the show, there is one of the Final Five who absolutely deserved to die and...did.

Matt wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Matt wrote:You got a read on me yet Rico?

I have a policy lynch, if it would please you, instead.

Can't get rid of me that easy, but k.

Anyway, looking over the Cylon roles...some of them have different colored names. I wonder if the Cylons are split into two btsc teams.

Weird, tho, because both Sharons, Athena and Boomer, are the same color, but I would imagine they wouldn't be on the same team because they were quite opposite in the show.

Boomer started off thinking she was human, but ended up taking on the Cylon cause. Athena knew she was a Cylon from the get go, but then rebelled against them and fought with the humans. I'm starting to wonder if the bad guys solely consist of Cylons or if some of the humans are Mafia, as well.

S~V~S wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Ah but you need to go back and read how I replied to that post of BRs you quoted, Rabbit. I DID think all cylons were bad at the start of the game. I never saw this show. No one made any mention of potential civ cylons until after Epi was rezzed that I can recall.

But about what I expected, Bugs

Just got home,reading back to this AM.

Matt wrote:Btw, in the show, the Final Five were actually good guys who still fought the Cylons after finding out who they really were. I don't know what impact that will have in the game, but just sayin'.

Matt wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Matt, do you genuinely suspect Scotty?

Well it's a little early, but I was pinged by it. But that's probably my paranoia and I'd be saying that about anyone who solved it.

As for the Final Five thing, I was thinking about the show, and realized that there's potentially one of the Final Five who could turn scum. Without giving too much away about the show, there is one of the Final Five who absolutely deserved to die and...did.

Matt wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Matt wrote:You got a read on me yet Rico?

I have a policy lynch, if it would please you, instead.

Can't get rid of me that easy, but k.

Anyway, looking over the Cylon roles...some of them have different colored names. I wonder if the Cylons are split into two btsc teams.

Weird, tho, because both Sharons, Athena and Boomer, are the same color, but I would imagine they wouldn't be on the same team because they were quite opposite in the show.

Boomer started off thinking she was human, but ended up taking on the Cylon cause. Athena knew she was a Cylon from the get go, but then rebelled against them and fought with the humans. I'm starting to wonder if the bad guys solely consist of Cylons or if some of the humans are Mafia, as well.

Should I go on?

The first few posts were about the final five, who I am assuming have not been triggered yet. I meant Cylons 1-8. And the last post you quote says "Maybe 2 BTS Teams" NOT that any of them might be civvies. And that post from someone who seems to know alot about the show.

So yeah, keep going, lol.

Also feel better Golden

S~V~S wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:So say we all.

S~V~S wrote:How horrible

He wanted to die, and now he was rezzed? He is a rezzed baddie?

So say we all.

What makes you think he was rezzed as a baddie?

Isn't that role, Sharon Agaton,a baddie? She's a Cylon, right?

No one made any mention of potential civ cylons until after Epi was rezzed that I can recall.

Matt wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Matt wrote:

Ricochet wrote:By humans being Mafia, you mean the Final Five or any civilian role?

Any civilian role. Well, not any, but specifically a few...

Gaius, Felix, and Tom Zarek come to mind as a few humans who could potentially be on a Mafia team, I would think. Maybe not Gaius, I guess it depends on your PoV.

I find this to be pure Matttalk, the Host was clear that the Final Five would be randomised, if this concerns them (and whether they will switch to mafia or anti-civ). Any civilians besides the potential F5 ones would constitute civilian traitors and should normally mess with the game balance.

Then again, this game is a semi closed setup and I've been known to burn my face off before with thinking the game would be too straightforward.

Pure Matttalk? Haha.

The Final Five has nothing to do with what I'm saying. Pretend they don't even exist for a moment.

What I'm saying, is that I think regular human non-cylons could be Mafia. It seems you've also seen the show, do you disagree with me that it's possible any or all of the names I mentioned could be Mafia?

Take into consideration, also, that the role list isn't divided between "civs" and "mafia", just "humans" and "cylons". And there are some Cylons (again, Athena, and the Final Five minus Tory) that could be considered "civs", so no I don't think it's "purely Matttalk".

Golden wrote:8) It is not necessary for you to have knowledge of the show to play. However, at times, lore will play a role in the mechanics of the game, and it could provide an explanation for events that have occurred or provide you with assistance in what to do next. At times, it may be to your faction's advantage if there is at least someone on your side with knowledge of the show, but it will never be game breaking for you if you do not. It is up to you, the players, how much you choose to research lore during the game.

S~V~S wrote:Like I said, I never saw it. And I am not the only one. So please show these posts to the other people that thought that as well. Once it was directly explained to me, I got it.

Polo wrote:I'm curious to know why Drumbeats hasn't voted Wilgy yet, if he's really such an "obvious lynch choice".

Mind you, I have absolutely no way at all of knowing whether Wilgy is Caprica Six or not; I've been guessing folks' humanity/cylonicity and alignment based on their behavior, vote history, attitude towards claiming and any signs of avoiding or attempting to budding with others here. This was how I approached all of the few mafia games I've played and it works most of the time; at least this beats voting by the gut, IMO.

Sometimes, especially during the first few days, this data is not enough and I have to take risks - and I have not, so far, found reasons to be ashamed of correcting Wilgy on his claim, for the results of this correction (if his previous claim attempts were really invalid) were better than accidentally lynching a helpful civ. Instead, we removed a manichaeism-preaching human from the game, and I'm fine with that.

I'm worried about Glorfindel, sig and zebra (now Rabbit8, who needs to join the conversation). Forgive me if I am mistaken, for I haven't paid much attention to this game in the past 3 or so days, but they've been scrubbing each other's backs for a while and attacking most of those who've publicly declared to be suspicious of them. Glorfindel seems especially dangerous and has been rather passive-aggressive towards me since I manifested my concerns about his non-claiming - which later led me to cast a vote on him - and I want whoever is Gaius Baltar (the one with the cylonoscopy power) to see if he's a potential toaster. Let's all hope Gaius is still alive, though.

Dex wrote:

DrumBeats wrote: Cap Six is the presumed last one, but that is only one out of the remaining cylons..

I'll just keep repeating myself. If there is a anti-Cavil faction, Leoben is part of it.

DrumBeats wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:And you think it looks bad for him that he seems incapable of following through with that?

I don't think it looks good. If you don't think there's a valid inspiration for that assertion, you've never played Mafia before.

If you think there are any, and I mean any, absolutes in this game, then you've never played Mafia before.

This quote doesn't strike me well. Zebra was just saying that it was an absolute that a Wilgy or Glorf lynch would not be successful and then pulls this on JJJ's thoughts of Glorf's self-defense.

Dex wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:I agree. I also don't believe Cap Six is the only one left. I count a few.

You're familiar with the show, then?

You know, when I subbed in it was for a player who hadn't made the "I am a cylon" declaration, same as you. I choose to declare. Any chance you'll follow suit?

Dex wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:Would this help your case?

No, I just find it generally civ helpful. There are only five undeclared left.

DrumBeats wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:

DrumBeats wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:And you think it looks bad for him that he seems incapable of following through with that?

I don't think it looks good. If you don't think there's a valid inspiration for that assertion, you've never played Mafia before.

If you think there are any, and I mean any, absolutes in this game, then you've never played Mafia before.

This quote doesn't strike me well. Zebra was just saying that it was an absolute that a Wilgy or Glorf lynch would not be successful and then pulls this on JJJ's thoughts of Glorf's self-defense.

If you expect me to defend this. Frak that.

You can look at my suspects and thoughts or you can suspect a replaced player on the merits of another player. Your call.

Sorry, I didn't see the sub in yet when I did this, I'll look at your suspects stuff when I get there.

Dex wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:Why? I'm sure you said but I'm being lazy and would really appreciate and explanation from anyone who thinks declaring is civvie minded?

Cylons benefit by not declaring as it gives them a one-time get-out-of-lynch-free pass. Nothing happens to humans who declare. Cylons are therefore more motivated to not declare. It's just another piece of evidence to weigh - personally I find it a very useful one - when determining who's who. Or who' what, I guess.

Glorfindel wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:

Glorfindel wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:Glorfindel-all you are doing is saying I'm wrong. Guess what? I don't believe I am. I believe you are a unclaimed cylon and very likely one of the bad ones. I will keep pushing this in hopes someone will listen to me.

I'm listening to you SilverWolf and I know full well that you believe that you're right and I totally respect that. Again for the umpteenth time, you are working from a frame of reference that is WRONG!... And what is worse, you are unprepared to even consider the possibility that you are.

I can assure you that what you've been led to believe about the way this game and how it works is WRONG. You are making assumptions based on what others have said and accepted them as fact. I promise you that they are not.

This is your post to me last night. You say I'm wrong. You say I'm just listening to others. You basically ask me to trust you.

How am I supposed to work with this? It's Mafia. I don't trust anyone.

I asked you to trust me? Perhaps... How many times do I have to say it? You believe that I'm Cylon and because of that belief you judge me as being Mafia (baddy). On what grounds do you make that judgement? Let's just assume for a moment that the first part of your equation were true - you, like many gullible others have bought this line that has been pedaled by our Mafia friends that all (or most with the exception of a small few) of our Cylon friends are bad. Think about it. It doesn't add up. The whole Cylon Amnesty Act (I believe) was created by the President as a means of preserving the presence of the Cylons in the face of this Mafia lie because she knew the Mafia would use the our natural (niave) assumptions and fears to wipe out a large portion of our number that are Cylon. If someone else can come up with a plausible alternative, I'm listening. I don't believe that the Cylon Amnesty Act was necessarily a means to protect our Cylon friends, it was even more a massive clue for us about the true nature of the Cylon/Human relationship in this game. But hardly anyone got it. Instead, we had pretty much the entire Town team line up behind the Mafia and the raving lunatic Admiral Caine (this remark is not intended as a slight against dear LC ) in a most effective negation of the benefit of the Cylon Amnesty Act and burying the very reason I think it was instituted in the first place. Yes, SilverWolf - this IS Mafia and no, maybe you can't trust anyone but you have, you can't see it (yet) but you've trusted the wrong people and now we're about to bear the consequences.

I am certain that I'm right in everything I believe here. I can't believe that there is no one else out there that doesn't see what I can.

Golden wrote:A new law has been passed.

Cylon Amnesty Act: Any person may publicly admit to being a cylon and, if the declaration is true, they will have immunity from the lynch for that day. Once a person has outed themselves as a cylon, they cannot do it a second time.

Though, I don't doubt I would vote for you today.

bea wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:I'd also still be willing to lynch Long Con. Black Rock's support of him holds some weight and he definitely is showing a lot of effort and not knowing about certain things that'd I'd expect him too seems genuine but I have a bad feeling about him I can't shake.

ISOing Glorfindel he has a few good posts and explains himself well. I don't like his voting pattern and behavior around lynches however.

Wilgy seems just too unreadable for me and I didn't like IAWY so I guess that's my biggest complaint about him.

bea has just faded fast, I know she's busy but even her last catch up was basically a bunch of nothing, just kind of floating around here and there.

again - if there is something specific you'd like me to respond to - I'm happy to do it. Please do consider I work a 60 hour a week job and often only get 1 day off and sometimes that day and the day I crash and burn and sleep like 16 hours aren't always the same day. I run a business and often have to drop every bit of my free time *including silly things like sleep and mafia* for it.

bea wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:

bea wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:Wow, I butchered the hell out of that quote.

Oh well, I think it's clear what I mean.

What's clear (to anyone who wants to really look) is that you completely avoided engaging with any of my points or questions, and moved right to your tired old schtick of "he's misrepresenting! he's discrediting!" But don't worry, I doubt anyone will bother looking.

as much as it pains me to say this, you might be on to sonmething here.

bea-In going through your ISO, I saw this post. You also made a lot of posts agreeing with Long Con or supporting him in some ways-telling him you were listening, etc.

So my question is, do you have a civ reading on Long Con and if so, elaborate on it please?

A lot of your comments are kind of offhand comments that make it hard for me to get a read of you. So if you elaborate on one of your reads, this will help me a lot and I imagine others as well.

Ok - you picked a doozy here so - bear with me.

I have a loooooooong history of NOT ever ever trusting Long Con. Like ever. LIke really really ever. I call him Lucy to my Charlie Brown. And then we had the Champs game where we had that bright second of civ BTS. And even then - ask him it took me AAAAAAGES to trust him. But in light of that, I'm trying to go against every knee jerk reaction I have about Long Con because I realize it's *my* bias that always makes him bad in my head.

Also - he's one of the few people who have acknowledged that you know I'm paying attention even when I go a long time without taking- when everyone else seems to think I'm flaking out and bad. So if he's willing to listen to me - I'm willing to at least listen to him. Also - as I can see how he could be cain. I could see as much as how he's accusing others of "role playing" that some of his earlier behavior that he chalked up to as being "ornery ole lc" (which is honestly prolly true) could also maybe be viewed as "role playing" too - so I'm willing to give him a little rope and some rye.

I get where Dex and SVS are coming from about him and *believe* me my gut wants to jump right into their hunt too - because in my head "a living long con is almost always a bad long con", but I'm trying to learn to get to know the player better. So that the player and the guy I know can start meshing together some. Does that make sense to you?

As for other reads - I think you are civ - and I think SVS, dex and rico are civ. I adore epi and cylon or no I hope he's around at endgame. I lean civ on glor cuz he makes posts like the one I just quoted. I thought matt was civ but I worry about his statement about "toaster sympathizers" and his call to "claimers" to own up and put pressure on people. Because like Rico - I saw this witch hunt coming and no one can deny that's what it's turning into. Good on you and Daisy for saying it won't ONLY be a factor. Now look at matt and polo's posts and say with a straight face they aren't hunting witches. Because they totally are.

I'm not sure about OA and Gman, but I hope they are civ. I think Daisy might be civ. I worry about her focus on me and my "claim" being looking like she's baddie hunting when deep down she knew nothing was going to come of it. Or she really thought it. I'm unsure here. Baddie Daisy has snuck up on me more than once. The kingon is too new to me to get a real handle on and I tried to help him make a post like this one but I failed because he hasn't.

I think zeeb is an enigma this game. I want to trust her. She seems to know things, but I'm not sure how she knows things and I'm not sure where she's coming from. Honestly before Lorab flipped I had her pegged as d'anna. She's keeping her cards *very* close to her chest and I can see civ and mafia reaosns for doing that.

bea wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

Dex wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:I'd also still be willing to lynch Long Con. Black Rock's support of him holds some weight and he definitely is showing a lot of effort and not knowing about certain things that'd I'd expect him too seems genuine but I have a bad feeling about him I can't shake.

Is anyone else willing to vote LC? Can I convince you, S~V~S? It might be good to have the most votes on him before the night is half over, to ensure he won't jump the fleet early and all the votes will count. Assuming he's Cain. Which I do.

I said I would give him time,which to me means until the end of the day. If nothing Cain related happens,I can then more to the next day and wait. I would love to lynch him, but he makes be feel bad, and BR makes me feel worse, but when I was trying to push for that,no one else seemed to be hearing what I was saying, or if they were, they did not agree. This is a huge part of the problem the civs have on this site in general; everyone wants to flog their own suspects, and no one is willing to listen to anyone else. We have one guy going on about JJJ, and tbh, that is the worst possible lynch, imo. Everybody only cares about their own suspects.

This is why I asked everyone to picl their top three last night, maybe we can come to a consensus.

I think Wilgy is likely to be cylon. I thought IAWY was a cylon, the only person who has history with IAWY thought he was a cylon, and Wilgy is not acting like a civ. He is my primary candidate for a cylon.

Wigly calling me good earlier felt like he was saying it so he could be right when everyone lynched me. FWIW.

bea wrote:

Long Con wrote:My goal is an orderly, regular Lynch.

That would be different and refreshing.

bea wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

Dex wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:I'd also still be willing to lynch Long Con. Black Rock's support of him holds some weight and he definitely is showing a lot of effort and not knowing about certain things that'd I'd expect him too seems genuine but I have a bad feeling about him I can't shake.

Is anyone else willing to vote LC? Can I convince you, S~V~S? It might be good to have the most votes on him before the night is half over, to ensure he won't jump the fleet early and all the votes will count. Assuming he's Cain. Which I do.

I said I would give him time,which to me means until the end of the day. If nothing Cain related happens,I can then more to the next day and wait. I would love to lynch him, but he makes be feel bad, and BR makes me feel worse, but when I was trying to push for that,no one else seemed to be hearing what I was saying, or if they were, they did not agree. This is a huge part of the problem the civs have on this site in general; everyone wants to flog their own suspects, and no one is willing to listen to anyone else. We have one guy going on about JJJ, and tbh, that is the worst possible lynch, imo. Everybody only cares about their own suspects.

This is why I asked everyone to picl their top three last night, maybe we can come to a consensus.

I think Wilgy is likely to be cylon. I thought IAWY was a cylon, the only person who has history with IAWY thought he was a cylon, and Wilgy is not acting like a civ. He is my primary candidate for a cylon.

Wigly calling me good earlier felt like he was saying it so he could be right when everyone lynched me. FWIW.

bea wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:I agree with everything bea has said in her most recent posts.

please know that I mean this with the utmost respect - but I'm slightly weirded out that we see this game as eye to eye as we do.

You're town read of me doesn't worry me as much as wilgly's does. but it surprises me in ways I'm not sure what to do with.

and also thank you for your support.

bea wrote:

Dex wrote:

bea wrote:I'm not sure how a sig vote is wasted?

If we vote to lynch him today and he's a cylon, he doesn't get lynched. If we vote to lynch him on any other day from now on whether he's a cylon or not, it's a lynch.

but again - isn't that WHY everyone was pressuring people to claim? So that we could take someone like sig and vote him and make him pressure claim and see if he lives or dies by his "I'm a cylon" claim? Isn't that how we're supposed to stop cavil??? You do see what I'm saying? How is his non lynch a bad option if we REALLY think the non-claimers MUST be bad for not claiming? Doesn't that do EXACTLY what everyone pressuring everyone to claim says it was supposed to do? Make cylons burn their lynch protect? If we catch a cylon while they are burning it how is that bad or a waste?

It was good enough for D'anna/Lorab. Why isn't it good enough for sig?

bea wrote:I am leaning on a Wilgy vote. Since he was drunk last night and hear now I to want to give him the chance tobrespond.

I said I would give lc a bit of time to prove himself and I'm not as sold on glor as Polo and gman are. If Wilgy ends up sounding sincere to me, I may have to find a place to vote.

I'm in transit atm so when I do get back on here the vote will prolly be quick and ugly.

Posting through any Linkie f I get it as I have to get moving.

bea wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote:So you are a toaster then.

I'll never admit it. I'll just end up getting lynched tomorrow. I don't think civs will win if we are chasing our tails.

You are right. I share a desire to get rid of both Cavil and cain. Best guess as to who Cavil might be and why?

You guys. I am not having good feels about a wigly vote now. I think some things are clicking into place for me.

Imma follow zeebs vote.

sig

bea wrote:I am perfectly ok with this result!! Estatic actually. Well done dex and especially svs for being right on the money even when few would listen to her.

bea wrote:Would you have rather I went against my instincts and followed the crowd just to follow the crowd?

bea wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:

Matt wrote:Updated list of Non-Claimers
a2thezebra
DrWilgy
Epignosis
Glorfindel
OA
Ricotech
Sokoth
Vompatti

Off this list, I'm gonna vote for either DrWilgy or Glorfindel-I will re ISO Glorfindel. Wilgy, I'm not trying to force you into any certain style of play but answering my questions will help me read you better. Glorfindel asked about my suspicions and tried to address them. That's a point in his favor and a negative in yours. Again, I want to get the best read I can on you both because off the above list, one of you two are it, since sig claimed for real and likely isn't a good option now for today because he claimed today.

I'm not going to witch hunt off this list. I'm only gonna pick people on it I'm suspicious of. If the only nonclaimers seem town, then I'll leave them alone.

I still don't understand why sig is a bad vote option if he claimed propper. I thought that's WHY people were trying to get everyone to claim - so that if you suspected the person, you could vote them and if they didn't die - they were cylon.

I KNOW that yesterday I was the the talk of lots of potential votes based on just that reason. Pressure her to claim by voting to see if she lives.

You can't have half a witch hunt afterall... it's the sort of thing one should go all in on.

bea wrote:

Black Rock wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Black Rock! I want an update on S~V~S and your accusation of her. What say you?

Sorry, I just spent the last 10 mins screaming at the top of my lungs at my selfish 17 year old. I think LC thinks I went insane.

I do need to get back on that track and expand on SVS. Really a lot of my thoughts are when she first came into the game she seemed to be Anti-Cylon. Like she thought it was the "in" thing. Then when a consensus came in that you were not evil she seemed to jump on the Cylon train. It just seems way to convenient and opportunistic. Which is words I would use to describe Mafia. I also do not trust any other listed Cylons. If the final five are like the final five of the show then I'm not too worried. I really don't know half the shit that's going on. I am with the humans (with the exception of your role), I do not trust Cylons.

I feel like I just did a tangent. My brain is filled with rage. Anyways SVS = opportunistic = no trust.

Although Black Rock =\= trusting Cylons is likely I will vote Dr Wilgy first. I do need to finish my catch up though.

Please show me exactly where svs was opportunistic

bea wrote:Ugh. Wth happened to yesterday? I lost it somehow. Glad for the extra day as I seemed to have decided to sleep through yesterday.

I'm leaning toward a sig vote. His vote yesterday after wilgy claimed is not a good look I think.

Silver - I'm asking soley for clarity - is glor's refusal to claim and answer your questions to your satisfaction regarding claiming your only reason for suspecting him or are there other details I lost in the shuffle? If that's the meat of why you think glor is bad, do you suspect the others who haven't claimed with the same vigor?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:So rabbit, are you declaring you're Cylon and claiming you're Cylon?

Matt wrote:I saw somewhere that rabbit was in, didn't know he replaced Zeebs.

Wtf? On day six, really guys?

Matt wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:Also, let me make clear that if I'm the lynch candidate for today, I will claim you-know-what at the very end. Don't even fucking try it, I'm town.

How does this make sense?

If you claim at the very end, that means you know you will be saved, ergo you are Cylon.

Is this correct?

(sorry if someone already brings this up like two posts later, I'm replying as I go)

insertnamehere wrote:so there's like 160 pages here

would anyone be super nice and give me some basic cliffnotes?

Ricochet wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:so there's like 160 pages here

would anyone be super nice and give me some basic cliffnotes?

Have fun. Most of it's nonsense. You can almost skip the first two days IMO.

Yes skip Day Two when
we caught likely bad Cylon;
nothing to grasp there.

linki: I can try
cliff noting in haiku if
I earn night immune.

Ricochet wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:so there's like 160 pages here

would anyone be super nice and give me some basic cliffnotes?

Have fun. Most of it's nonsense. You can almost skip the first two days IMO.

Yes skip Day Two when
we caught likely bad Cylon;
nothing to grasp there.

linki: I can try
cliff noting in haiku if
I earn night immune.

Reading comprehension......

Ok your take then from
"almost" skippable Day Two
prime suspects, go.

Reading comprehension......

Ricochet wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:so there's like 160 pages here

would anyone be super nice and give me some basic cliffnotes?

Have fun. Most of it's nonsense. You can almost skip the first two days IMO.

Yes skip Day Two when
we caught likely bad Cylon;
nothing to grasp there.

linki: I can try
cliff noting in haiku if
I earn night immune.

Reading comprehension......

Ok your take then from
"almost" skippable Day Two
prime suspects, go.

Again

Reading comprehension......

Uh no prime suspects
based on that Day lynch result
thanks kay go go go

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:Ignorance is bliss, I guess....

Answer the bloody question, guy.

Ricochet wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:
Ignorance is bliss, I guess....

You have a bea case
a hunt on SVS and
talk about cylon act

How do these relate
to Day Two links? Maybe
a vote on you will help.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:My preferred lynch would be among sig, Black Rock, and bea. I also find myself less trusting of rabbit8 than I was of Zebra.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:Because I think you're bad. Noted.

Do you? News to me.

I don't give a flying eff what your claimed read is on me.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:Because I think you're bad. Noted.

Do you? News to me.

I don't give a flying eff what your claimed read is on me.

Reading posts would clear things up for you.

Your behavior in response to Ricochet is the opposite of pro-town. There's no reason for it. At best it's worthless sneering and at worst it's a refusal to answer a valid prompt.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:The town win a lot of games on this site?

That's irrelevant, thanks for nothing.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:rabbit8: instead of answering a simple prompt, let's discredit JJJ (with a humorously ignorant statement) for his ability to serve as a productive townie.

Moreover, he just acknowledged that I have "civvie ways" in the very same game he's just accused me of being bad in.

Ricochet wrote:

Matt wrote:The True Identity Act

All players who have been lynched or will be lynched shall have their faction revealed in the form of civilian, mafia, or independent.

This sounds plausible
in light of circumventing
Host's design how?

rabbit8 wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:The town win a lot of games on this site?

That's irrelevant, thanks for nothing.

Sure, you telling me what is pro town on a site where the town rarely win is irrelevant. But please do go on believing your civvie ways are effective.

Note prolonged bitching
instead of giving reads for
Day called near useless.

Ricochet wrote:A toast and a vote
to enduring qualities.
rabbit8. Good night.

DrumBeats wrote:Oh wow, looking at the timing of Glorf's claim that is an incredibly good strategic point for a cylon to claim.

The way it stands right now we have:

4 votes Glorf (discounting Silver's)
3 votes on Sig (Discounting Zebra)
3 votes on Rabbit

This forces us to vote break the tie and put somebody above Glorf in terms of votes, which will not allow us to be certain that Glorf is a cylon.

@ linki Epig I can make sense of them and see reasoning behind them. Zebra I often could not deduce reasoning. That being said though, Rabbits more recent posts were not so great and had little to no content.

I would personally rather take more time to read Rabbit and push for Sig today.

I also trust the people who voted for Sig more than those that voted Rabbit.

Sig

Epignosis wrote:This isn't even close. Glorfindel is being saved. Drumbeats and rabbit8 are doing the saving. Why is rabbit8 suddenly voting sig?

sig wrote:Yeah rabbit you are, just like zebra.