The Syndicate

So Say We All!

Second. I'm not ready to name a letter I think we should discus it first?

@HOST Will the final five know if they are cylons after the game starts. Or will it be revealed to them later?

Well Fine no helping solve the puzzle.


A

Epignosis wrote:Those rules didn't get read.

Lots of cylon sympathizers out there in the thread.

ika wrote:MOD WHERE IS MY POLL I WANT TO VOTE SIG!

Ricochet wrote:@Beats

I don't see how it can veer towards a townslip. If the design is faithful to the show, the certain Cylons have no memory of who the Final Five Cylons are. So the question could come from:

-- town Sig having no clue if he's Final Five (not received in his role at the start of the game)
-- town Sig having no clue how the Final Five will be revealed, regardless of him turning up as such or not, or
-- Cylon Sig trying to find out how the Final Five will be revealed (or if they have already).

Does this make sense?

Also, I think this is the first time such a obligatory "salute" rule has been introduced in games here. You not following the rule still must be accounted for, because rules are rules.

linki: ninja'd by indi

My understanding is anyone can be a final five unless there role card specifically states that they aren't.

Matt wrote:Zeebs! What're you thinkin' so far?

Because I live in opposite land, I'm suspicious of Scotty for solving the puzzle. Derp.

Linki - Hi 3J! Guess you live in opposite land too

I see where you're coming from here. However, I might disagree. In general I think something seen as a message which would be to help the civs. Would make the mafia less willing to solve it, or less energized to figure it out. Some might for the town credit, but I think it is unlikely. I could see giving very light civ leans for those who contributed a lot to it, but they shouldn't be above suspicion.

Matt wrote:Oh wow, I forgot to include that I think it's possible that if Scotty is bad, then he obviously had help from his teamies, and they chose Scotty as the "Great Puzzle Solver Guy" spokesperson. That's why I'd like to know if anyone else has previous knowledge of Scotty being good at stuff like this.

This could be true, but I doubt it.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Vompatti wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Vompatti wrote:Greetings comrades! Having thoroughly read and analized the thread I have decided to randomize my spreadsheets with a little help from the I Ching.

What did the I Ching have to say about me?

You will meat a tall handsome strangler who will sweep you off your feet.

Would this tall handsome stranger sweep me off my feet if he knew I don't eat meat?

You don't eat meat.

Ika/RIco two mafia members down. :P

@Glorfindel you came in, made a post then poof.

Current thoughts on the game?

It was kind off tongue and cheek, but your reaction is interesting.

I'm pretty sure one color is people who are on the colonies and the others are on the ship right?

Ricochet wrote:

sig wrote:I'm pretty sure one color is people who are on the colonies and the others are on the ship right?

You're talking with Matt.

Wait What?

a2thezebra wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:I beg your pardon.

You're so transparently bad that I'm almost inclined to leave you alive just to see what team mates you expose.

Wow, you really blow at reading me then.

cough
you're one to talk
cough
ahem something was stuck in my throat. :P


But, seriously I'm not seeing it how is she obviously bad JJJ?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

ika wrote:The reason your presenting there is dumb iniself you know? Scum is scum

I know what is dumb and what is not dumb. I've played more Mafia than you have.

Ugh put it away boys nobody wants to see them. :P


Zebra top three civ reads?

a2thezebra wrote:Epignosis, SVS, and you.

wait me.
Lots of people are civ reading me hmmmm am I mafia.


VOTE SIG. HA take that sig.......wait nevermind.


@JJJ


:P

So some real content time.
I liked Polo's and Drum's early game actions light civ reads there.
I'm also feeling good about Zebra and LC.

I could see Rico and Ika as teammates if one flips mafia, but neither seems super scummy.
I don't recall much from Silver yet this game which is pingy.

Finally I saw Glorfindel reading the thread yet he didn't post? I don't like that at all.

Oh and Matt is looking okay.

More on the Rico/Ika thing if either or both are civs they should tone it down a bit, they've been going at it for awhie. However, this reminds me of MP vs Ika in the Scrimmage.

Matt why do you think LC is bad?

ika wrote:

sig wrote:So some real content time.
I liked Polo's and Drum's early game actions light civ reads there.
I'm also feeling good about Zebra and LC.

I could see Rico and Ika as teammates if one flips mafia, but neither seems super scummy.
I don't recall much from Silver yet this game which is pingy.

Finally I saw Glorfindel reading the thread yet he didn't post? I don't like that at all.

silver has been busy most of the day, shes at a party right now but she should be posting when she gets back (10 centralis)

Okay cool thanks Ika.

You can town read me JJJ.

Scotty wrote:remind me never to play 5 games at once again pls

I think I'm caught up, and I'm just gestating. There's a lot of one-off votes this day 1 which is going to make it a rando Where's Waldo sort of vote off, I can tell.

No one has mentioned me at all in like 10 pages. which is exactly how I like it it's not like I've said a lot anyway.

I'll be looking at low posters today, per usual. I'm calling the kettle black in that regard, but RL's gonna be RL.

Only five? Noob. :P

I never talk to my wife when we play mafia, maybe all you couples should try that. :P


Okay expect a few posts from me unless I wander off and forget to do them. Right now I really don't have any scum reads. So some quick fire notes first then a few quoted posts. Gotta get my post count up.
Glorfindel is a slight ping, but he is always a slight ping. I'd like to see some real in game content he is dropping in and posting, but not posting much content. Besides his civ read of zebra which he does every game. :P
The Rico/Ika thing is confusing they both seem scummy then they do something civviish and I'm not sure again.
IWAY is absence I'd like to see more from him.
I don't see an issue with Gman's list of notes? Didn't he say they were just notes and not reads?
The Epi being so chill about MM voting for him seems a little weird.
WHy does Polo have a vote.

linki: @SW as my grandfather used to say "I'll suffer alright, but don't expect me to suffer silently!" :P
Also why am I a town lean?

The above posts has lots of emoticons.

DrumBeats wrote:Ok, so after catching up, I'll do a basic 3/3 list as well for information's sake.

Good:

JJJ
ika
G-Man

Toastery:

Rico
Vompatti
LoRab

FoS: Ricochet

Richochet has been arguably the most vocal player this game, but looking back, Ricochet has provided nothing with his/her many posts. The only thing Rico did was attempt to discredit basically every other post. This is a very proscum approach because its sole purpose is to reduce town information. Rico has not provided a single town/toaster read iirc. In all of those posts, there is no reason to have no reads at all imo. I don't know meta, so I can't judge based on that, but nothing about this behavior strikes me as protown.

We're only about halfway (?) through the day though, so I'll hold my vote for now until later. Currently, my vote would rest with my FoS unless there is a convincing argument for somebody else later in the day.

Why is Lorab and Vompatti on your scum list?
Why is Gman on your civ list?
Though you do bring up some good points on Rico.

Scotty wrote:

Ricochet wrote:Also, can we look into one of my earliest in-game points, which was about MetalMarsh89 locking a vote early on with zero argumentation, to which he has thus far added nothing but fluff and banter?

My favorite was his explanation akin to "I wanted to vote you in another game so here it is" and even more lol-able is Epi's lay down of "oh, no problem then!" Epi even labels Mm as town after that, if I recall. What the frak, Helo!

lol, but yeah this was weird.

Scotty wrote:

ika wrote:Scotty-need more i find him a little more on the scum side for ~reasons~

Sometimes cookies go missing from the pantry but that doesn't mean I'm gonna start suspecting the vacuum cleaner.

I'm inclined not to lynch Scotty like ever since I'm enjoying his jokes.

ObscureAllure wrote:Ran out of time catching up, don't want to chance missing the vote so voting for Polo. I'll be back in town at some point either tonight or tomorrow
Morning

hmmmm

Could you explain this to me Obscure? Are you only voting for Polo as a NO U because he voted for Lorab or is there something else?

I'm willing to give OA a few days to acclimate herself to the game, but I'll be watching her since this vote was very odd.

a2thezebra wrote:Oh don't get me started on Day 1 lynches, man.

Day 1 lynches suck.

Silverwolf wrote:

Vompatti wrote:voted ika dfor exisescessive tpos

You put a permanent vote on someone for typos when they are known to typo a lot? Are you calling for a PL on ika? I will fight you hard on that as I strongly believe he is town. I don't let my townreads get lynched, especially not policy lynched.

ika is town, he's active, engaged, interested in the game, developing reads-my top townread right now

Drumbeats and JJJ are also townreads.

Ricochet is a scumread and I'm not feeling great about SVS either. Her lack of contribution to the game, despite posting, makes me suspect her.

Why do you think she isn't contributing? It seems like she is to me.

S~V~S wrote:

Nerolunar wrote:

Inawordyes wrote:
Quick observations: I've got a town read on Sikverwolf and - and I completely acknowledge that I'm being a hypocrite in thinking this, btw - a slight scum read on Nerolunar. He popped in and out in the same manor I did/am doing, but I have conformation bias on my side to know why I couldn't be here. Was at a family gathering of sorts all day. He just basically said "I can't be here, here's my post, see ya later". It feels like making an excuse not to post, which isn't good for a multitude of reasons and at best is anti-town. I'm also probably overthinking this too haha.

Normally, because I'm used to it culturally, I'd vote him to get him to talk, but I can't do that here because votes, once cast, are permanent (if I read correctly), so I'm gonna put a big FoS on Nero and hopefully he'll say or will have said more stuff.

I realized that the thread was open the moment I was about to leave to visit my grandpa. Minor ping on you for thinking that not immediately involving you guys in my private life is "anti-town at best" You admit to overthinking it too, yet places a FoS on me. Oh well.

Silverwolf wrote:OK, I don't know why I am infuriating Rico. That seems a bit much really. However, his rebuttal to me looks like genuine frustration so when I go through ISO's and try to get a few reads, I may have to reconsider my scumread on him. I may vote SVS today instead. We'll see.

Ithink you are infuriating Rico becasue he is cornered,tbh. And don't vote me let me at least get started.

Townreads so far:

Indiglo - looks just like Turf Wars
Drumbeats - Seems really transparent and genuine
Ika - Looks like usual Ika.

Scumreads:

Epignosis - Is usually more vocal iirc.
Inawordyes - see above
SVS - something is off, and I don´t know what.

Well, Im much more confident about my townreads than my scumreads. Lots of players Im not used to play with.

It's Mothers Day weekend and my Dads birthday

I have a few hours to catchup and vote, I have to go to the cemetary & then we're taking my Stepmother & Dad out.

Unless a lot has changed since yesterday, theperson who has most stood out to me is Rico. He kept pounding that business about forgetting "So Say We All", then when I pokedhimback, he was like "just a joke". But it looked more to me like keeping busy. i tried to read Matt & Ricos back/forth last night but Matts casesarealways Byzantine,and I had had a few drinks.

Why does Polo have a vote?

I'm not sure how I feel about Nero's reads. I'll need to see more from him and then decide. His read of SVS seems weird but it appears to be a gut read. His read for IWAY seems like a no u though.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

sig wrote:You can town read me JJJ.

I'd love to, sig. Inspire me. Make me feel that special feeling. Do you think you've provided something that might warrant a town read? I understand you cannot be cleared obviously, but perhaps you've said something that you think should be to your credit?

Well Okay.


JJJ I love you, you're my everything, I just wanna run away and live with you forever in a golden palace. I'll buy you flowers and chocolate I'd walk a 1000 miles across the plains of Mordor without any shoes or socks just to see your smile one more time. I'd rip out someones heart and present it to you on a golden platter of ivory tusks.


How did I do? Did I give you that special feeling? Will you town read me now? If not I'm so pinning that murder where I ripped someone's heart out on you.

:P


linki:

:P

I had to much sugar in my coffee this morning I think.

Yeah so all three of Glorfindel's posts are fluffy (also thanks for the congratulation)
I'm not liking that, I'd like some content from him.

I'm surprised by how few posts we have from Epi, true he did just finish another game, but besides his puzzle solving stuff he hasn't put forth much content.

Epignosis wrote:I am going to name some people I think are good and some people I think are bad. Old school style.

ika
MM
Matt

That's three I think are good.

Three I think are bad?

Ricochet
Drumbeats
G-Man

That something for 3J. Knock yourself out man. I'm tired after today.

This is his list I find it interesting.
@Epi could you explain your mafia reads?

DFaraday wrote:So say we all

The game started 12 hours ago and we're up to 8 pages already? This is gonna be a long game.

I'm waiting for more content from DF he is usually a low poster, but only one post so far is strange especially since his one post is complaining about the amount of content seems like it could be an excuse to slack.

linki: That is a good question LC regarding smiles, I've never thought about it for a meta thing. I guess I use them more as a civ? Also why would I indicate my own scummieness? That would be silly.

Scotty wrote:

I just wanna run away and live with you forever in a golden palace. I'll buy you flowers and chocolate I'd walk a 1000 miles across the plains of Mordor without any shoes or socks just to see your smile one more time. I'd rip out someones heart and present it to you on a golden platter of ivory tusks.

That's not how the song "Gonna Be" goes.

I'm ad libbing it. :P


Also LC/Scotty since you're both here, can I have some reads? What do you think of SVS, Rico, and Ika.

S~V~S wrote:

sig wrote:
linki: That is a good question LC regarding smiles, I've never thought about it for a meta thing. I guess I use them more as a civ? Also why would I indicate my own scummieness? That would be silly.

I was told once that pretty posts with lots of smileys and no typos were my big baddie tell. I cared about what I said more whne I was bad so I proofread it and dressed it up more.

I disagree with this, I think I pay equal attention to my posts (spelling wise) regardless of alignment, in fact I might be less likely to as mafia since I can meta defend myself. For smiles I like to use them and I think it is silly to try and put to much weight in whether it is a baddie tell or not.

This smile discussion is giving me world reborn teas.

LC are you mafia?

God it was a joke.

Since my post had so many faces. Like I usually don't put so many. I think LC might be mafia, he is setting me up like mafia LC will do sometimes and that isn't very nice. :P

So Epi has three votes, and I don't like it. I've got a civ lean on Epi.
I dislike that one of the three votes on him is MM who voted out of a joke then have SW and Ika on it.

I really dislike zebras vote for BK.

Scotty wrote:

Long Con wrote:

sig wrote:God it was a joke.

Since my post had so many faces. Like I usually don't put so many. I think LC might be mafia, he is setting me up like mafia LC will do sometimes and that isn't very nice. :P

I didn't set you up, sig, you set yourself up.

In classic sig fashion.
I do think dog is good though

I'm glad you think dog is good.

:P

SokothQultuq wrote:Humm...

Null meaning nothing or zero... Means that they are inferring that they are Not Scum? LOLOL That is most fascinating to me. This banter that continues to go on and on to distract people away from the topic at hand seems awfully suspicious to me. Lots of good arguments and stuff mixed in with what appears to be a bunch of cross comms chatter... Very nicely done. Please continue, as confusing as this seems it is entertaining and enlightening.

Looks like the popular vote is leaning very slowly towards Epignosis. Why would Silverwolf and Metalmarsh be so certain?

I don't think MM was certain his vote was a joke vote. I'd suggest you don't vote for Epi unless you think he is mafia.

So I know you're new, but if you had to pick three people who you thought were good and three you thought were bad who would they be?

Ugh

Pot meet kettle I guess? :P

However, on that note BR (see got it right this time yay) why did Zebra vote for you? I don't recall seeing a real reason.

Guess you can call me dog until I stop calling you BR. :P

However, on another note*

indiglo wrote:

sig wrote:The above posts has lots of emoticons.

Welcome to the dark side.

lol

I remember bringing up that you used lots of smiles one game, which is very ironic in hindsight.

But, wait Epi wasn't town in Turf War?

Wait a minute I'm a TS regular and constantlysometimes read both Epi and LC right.
Just like Turf Wars were I knew Epi was bad (lets not discus anything else I did that game unless I'm using it to defend myself) :P
And I was right about LC like three times when he was mafia so far.

I don't like that post from you JJJ I don't like it at all.

It seems like your point is we should listen to SW/Ika on Epi since other newer members have been right about their alignment right?

I'd rather we not lynch Epi today, it would be better to lynch someone else imo. However, I won't actively fight agaisnt an Epi lynch.

ika wrote:

sig wrote:It seems like your point is we should listen to SW/Ika on Epi since other newer members have been right about their alignment right?

I'd rather we not lynch Epi today, it would be better to lynch someone else imo. However, I won't actively fight agaisnt an Epi lynch.

Techacly your defending it right now....

Defending Epi which I'm really not doing isn't the same as fighting agaisnt the lynch imo.

indiglo wrote:

sig wrote:It seems like your point is we should listen to SW/Ika on Epi since other newer members have been right about their alignment right?

I'd rather we not lynch Epi today, it would be better to lynch someone else imo. However, I won't actively fight agaisnt an Epi lynch.

Why would you prefer to lynch someone else today?

Also, any other good candidates?

Linki~

I don't think Epi is mafia and yes it is just day 1, but I'd rather not lynch Epi on day 1 when one of the three votes on him is a total joke vote (MM's) I'm considering a few people. I've got a slight ping of LC and DF so could vote there. I really disliked Zebra's BR vote, I might also look back over the RIco thing and see what I see.

If we don't see content from Glorfindel and IWAY soon I'd like to put some pressure on them and maybe lynch them to.

IWAY I see you, what do you think about the game right now?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:Actually JJJ-I can tell you I don't like MM's vote on Epi for joke reasons in a game he should know the votes are not changeable.

If Epignosis is a cylon then I would be willing to entertain MM as a team mate. That's something for later though.

Maybe you're a teammate of Epi setting up MM to be lynched tomorrow.

@Silver if you ever have anymore kids or like a dog nah actually get a cat, cats are better. Name it Sigurd best name on the planet.


linki: Nevermind then IWAY. I hope we can play another game sometime soon.

linki2: Yeah he might, however this is all null in my mind since I don't think Epi is mafia.

Silverwolf wrote:

sig wrote:@Silver if you ever have anymore kids or like a dog nah actually get a cat, cats are better. Name it Sigurd best name on the planet.

I have 3 cats already and 2 dogs and am adopting a 3rd. Sorry, but Sigurd isn't on the list of names for the new dog.

Vote Silver.


:P

Spacedaisy wrote:Ok, I am back in San Antonio, but I still have not had time to read a single thing. And I want to spend the evening with my husband instead of reading a thousand posts. What is wrong with you people?! I randomized my vote between all those who already had votes and it came up Matt. Love you Matty, but I'm tossing my vote your way. Random.org has spoken!

Matt

I promise to start getting up to speed and play properly beginning tomorrow.

Daisy the vote has to be in dead red for it to count.

Trains?


Okay so I'm voting for LC.

Vote Long Con

What does scum!(name) mean? Why the exclamation point

@Epi I think defensive tunneling is like OMGUS?


linki: He has been pinging me on a gut level, and last time I had a bad gut read off him he turned out to be mafia. I know it isn't much, but I don't like any of the wagons, but I'm also not reading any of the people on them high enough to vote and save them either, and I don't really have any solid reads right now.
So I think going the gut avenue is the best.


oooo I just got so confused by what I read, thanks for clearing it up Golden.

I'll light a candle for you and make sure to add you to my players.

SVS do you think EPi is civ?

interesting

I'm off to bed night.