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by insertnamehere
Sat Aug 06, 2016 12:17 am
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: T W I N P E A K S {Season 3: May 21st}
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T W I N P E A K S {Season 3: May 21st}

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How have I not already made a thread about this?

Anywho, after 25 years of nuttin', Twin Peaks is back. Every episode co-written by David Lynch and Mark Frost.

Every single episode directed by David Lynch. To put this in perspective, he only directed 6 of the original series.

Early reports suggest up to 18 frigging episodes.

18 hours of damn-fine Lynch/Frost Twin Peaks.

Filming wrapped months ago, by the way. Now we're just waiting on post-production.

I am dangerously overhyped for this show.

And if that wasn't enough, Mark Frost wrote a book to help bridge the gap in-between the original series and the new season. It's coming out on October 18th.

I am also dangerously overhyped for it too.

by insertnamehere
Sat Aug 06, 2016 12:28 am
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: T W I N P E A K S {Season 3: May 21st}
Replies: 68
Views: 4157

Re: T W I N P E A K S {Season 3: 2017-ish, New Book: 10/18}

Also, a complete cast list has been released.
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Jay Aaseng
Alon Aboutboul
Jane Adams
Joe Adler
Kate Alden
Stephanie Allynne
Mädchen Amick*
Eric Ray Anderson
Finn Andrews
Elizabeth Anwies
Dana Ashbrook*
Joe Auger
Phoebe Augustine*
Melissa Bailey
Tammie Baird
Matt Battaglia*
Chrysta Bell
Monica Bellucci
Jim Belushi
Leslie Berger
Richard Beymer*
John Billingsley
Michael Bisping
Ronnie Gene Blevins
Kelsey Bohlen
Sean Bolger
Rachael Bower
Brent Briscoe
Robert Broski
Wes Brown
Richard Bucher
Page Burkum
Scott Cameron
Juan Carlos Cantu
Gia Carides
Vincent Castellanos
Michael Cera
Richard Chamberlain
Bailey Chase
Johnny Chavez
Candy Clark
Larry Clarke
Scott Coffey
Frank Collison
Lisa Coronado
Catherine E. Coulson*
Grace Victoria Cox
Jonny Coyne
James Croak
Julee Cruise*
Heather D'Angelo
Jan D'Arcy*
David Dastmalchian
Jeremy Davies
Owain Rhys Davies
Ana de la Reguera
Rebekah Del Rio
Laura Dern
Neil Dickson
Hugh Dillon
Cullen Douglas
Edward "Ted" Dowlin
Judith Drake
David Duchovny*
Christopher Durbin
Francesca Eastwood
Eric Edelstein
John Ennis
Josh Fadem
Tikaeni Faircrest
Eamon Farren
Sherilyn Fenn*
Jay R. Ferguson
Sky Ferreira
Miguel Ferrer*
Rebecca Field
Robin Finck
Brian Finney*
Patrick Fischler
Erika Forster
Robert Forster
Meg Foster
Travis Frost
Warren Frost*
Pierce Gagnon
Allen Galli
Hailey Gates
Brett Gelman
Ivy George
Balthazar Getty
James Giordano
Harry Goaz*
Grant Goodeve
George Griffith
Tad Griffith
James Grixoni
Cornelia Guest
Travis Hammer
Hank Harris
Annie Hart
Andrea Hays*
Stephen Heath
Heath Hensley
Gary Hershberger*
Michael Horse*
Ernie Hudson
Jay Jee
Jesse Johnson
Caleb Landry Jones
Ashley Judd
Luke Judy
Stephen Kearin
David Patrick Kelly*
Laura Kenny
Dep Kirkland
Robert Knepper
David Koechner
Virginia Kull
Nicole LaLiberte
Jay Larson
Sheryl Lee*
Jennifer Jason Leigh
Jane Levy
Matthew Lillard
Jeremy Lindholm
Peggy Lipton*
Bellina Martin Logan*
Sarah Jean Long
David Lynch*
Riley Lynch
Shane Lynch
Kyle MacLachlan*
Mark Mahoney
Karl Makinen
Malone*
Xolo Maridueña
Berenice Marlohe
Rob Mars
James Marshall*
Elisabeth Maurus
Josh McDermitt
Everett McGill*
Zoe McLane
Derek Mears
Clark Middleton
Greg Mills
James Morrison
Christopher Murray
Don Murray
Joy Nash
Priya Diane Niehaus
Bill O'Dell
Casey O'Neill
Johnny Ochsner
Walter Olkewicz*
Charity Parenzini
Elias Nelson Parenzini
John Paulsen
Sara Paxton
Max Perlich
Linas Phillips
Tracy Phillips
John Pirruccello
Linda Porter
Jelani Quinn
Ruth Radelet
Mary Reber
Adele René
Mariqueen Reznor
Trent Reznor
Carolyn P. Riggs
Kimmy Robertson*
Wendy Robie*
Erik L. Rondell
Marv Rosand*
Ben Rosenfield
Tim Roth
Rod Rowland
Carlton Lee Russell*
Elena Satine
John Savage
Amanda Seyfried
Amy Shiels
Sawyer Shipman
Tom Sizemore
Sara Sohn
Malachy Sreenan
Harry Dean Stanton*
J.R. Starr
Bob Stephenson
Charlotte Stewart*
Emily Stofle
Al Strobel*
Carel Struycken*
Ethan Suplee
Sabrina S. Sutherland
Jessica Szohr
Russ Tamblyn*
Bill Tangradi
Cynthia Lauren Tewes
Jodee Thelen
Jack Torrey
Sharon Van Etten
Eddie Vedder
Greg Vrotsos
Jake Wardle
Naomi Watts
Nafessa Williams
Ray Wise*
Alicia Witt*
Karolina Wydra
Charlyne Yi
Nae Yuuki
Grace Zabriskie*
Christophe Zajac-Denek
Madeline Zima
Blake Zingale
In addition to the old cast members we have a veritable who's who of Lynch stable favorites. (Naomi Watts! Laura Dern! Balthazar Getty! Patrick Fischler! Rebekah Del Rio!)

Aaand a whole bunch of new stars some of which are down right bizarre. (Amanda Seyfried! Robert Forster! Jennifer Jason Leigh! Tom Sizemore! Jim Belushi! Tim Roth! Monica Belushi! Sharon Van Etten! Trent Reznor!)

And Micheal Cera, who I suspect is replacing Frank Silva as BOB.
by insertnamehere
Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:19 am
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: T W I N P E A K S {Season 3: May 21st}
Replies: 68
Views: 4157

Re: T W I N P E A K S {Season 3: 2017-ish, New Book: 10/18}

Epignosis wrote:
Spoiler: show
It's really a remake of Mulholland Drive.
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You jest, but David Lynch has said in interviews that he considers all of his work to exist in the same universe. He's also said that the Mystery Man from Lost Highway comes from the same place as BOB in Twin Peaks, although that could easily mean that the MM is a manifestation of psychological turmoil, instead of him literally being from the Black Lodge. Sheryl Lee, who played Laura Palmer, has a quick blink-and-you'll-miss-it cameo in the Club Silencio scene in Mulholland Drive. Inland Empire has the most of these David Lynch Cinematic Universe references, with Laura Dern playing an actor who, to put it simply, loses her identity and sense of self, and at one point in the film, seems to cycle between her previous DL characters from Blue Velvet and Wild At Heart. Also, the three main actors from Mulholland Drive show up in Inland Empire. Justin Theroux plays a famous hot-shot actor, Naomi Watts and Laura Elena Harring voice bizarre anthropomorphic rabbits who seemingly exist in some sort of purgatory. Of course, in Mulholland Drive, both of their characters die, while Justin Theroux's lives on. Their appearances in Inland Empire could be interpreted as Watts and Harring in the afterlife, while Theroux exists in the "real world". The ending of Inland Empire, where Laura Dern's character does seem to pass from this plane of existence into a new one, and meets Laura Elena Harring who then winks at her and proceeds to participate in a rousing lip-sync battle set to Nina Simone's "Sinnerman", definitely encourages this line of thinking.

The new season of Twin Peaks has the most returning Lynch actors out of everything he's ever done, and considering his last film before making the series was the self-referential Inland Empire, it wouldn't surprise me if Naomi Watts reprises her performance as Diane Selwyn in some way.
by insertnamehere
Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:20 am
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: T W I N P E A K S {Season 3: May 21st}
Replies: 68
Views: 4157

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Ricochet wrote:
Spoiler: show
I should watch it eventually.
Yes, I've heard it's quite good. :solitary:
by insertnamehere
Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:21 am
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: T W I N P E A K S {Season 3: May 21st}
Replies: 68
Views: 4157

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MovingPictures07 wrote:Does this mean we'll get to see a Twin Peaks Mafia 2? :D
I still haven't done Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me Mafia. :feb:
by insertnamehere
Sun Aug 07, 2016 9:56 pm
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: T W I N P E A K S {Season 3: May 21st}
Replies: 68
Views: 4157

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Speaking of David Lynch, I've got my father and brother watching Mulholland Drive and they have no clue what the hell is going on. :haha:
Have they gotten to the Club Silencio scene yet? Tell me if they manage to piece it together. I love hearing people's first reactions to that film.
by insertnamehere
Mon Aug 08, 2016 12:09 am
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: T W I N P E A K S {Season 3: May 21st}
Replies: 68
Views: 4157

Re: T W I N P E A K S {Season 3: 2017-ish, New Book: 10/18}

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Speaking of David Lynch, I've got my father and brother watching Mulholland Drive and they have no clue what the hell is going on. :haha:
Have they gotten to the Club Silencio scene yet? Tell me if they manage to piece it together. I love hearing people's first reactions to that film.
My dad gave up well before the ending, and my brother just said "explain it to me because I'm not watching that again". XD

I explained what I could. There are pieces of the film I still don't understand after four viewings. It's still one of my favorites though.
Bunch of cowards. You should lock them in a room with Inland Empire playing on a loop for 12 hours for such heresy. :srsnod:

What parts of the film do you not understand? For me, I've always been a little bit stymied by the Cowboy and the Homeless Man Behind Winkies. My loose interpretation is that they represent the classic dichotomy between order and chaos, God and the Devil, Acceptance/Judgement and Furious Indignance. As with all the best Lynch characters, they can be read as omniscient spiritual figures of unknown power and origin, or simple psychological concepts made physical, a surreal warped reflection of aspects of one's self that we desperately try to hide from.

The best and most effective examples of these figures are the Black Lodge spirits from Twin Peaks. I could write a damn 40-page essay on the relationship between
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BOB and Leland Palmer.
Of course, the film itself can be seen as a failed vision quest. Diane Selwyn came to Hollywood after winning a Jitterbug contest and knew that she was destined for great things. Except she wasn't. She failed. Miserably. The entire first part of the film is about a shadowy Hollywood conspiracy made up of corrupt shadowy authority figures who push their own secret agenda that we could only dream of knowing. Often times, people seek out conspiracy theories and focus on concepts like the Illuminati or Bohemian Grove, not out of cynicism, but out of a backward sense of hope. Hope that there is, in fact a secret plan, hope that there is an elite organization out there controlling every single aspect of the media and politics, and that it's all not one big random-ass clusterfuck. Hope that the only reason you didn't succeed is because the Powers That Be just couldn't handle how awesome you were, and not because you didn't have what it takes. Refer to The X-Files and Burn After Reading for more on this kind of stuff.

Sorry for the esoteric tangent, this is what David Lynch does to me.
by insertnamehere
Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:17 pm
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: T W I N P E A K S {Season 3: May 21st}
Replies: 68
Views: 4157

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RIP Miguel Ferrer

"While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love."
by insertnamehere
Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:20 am
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: T W I N P E A K S {Season 3: May 21st}
Replies: 68
Views: 4157

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Ricochet wrote:Going in, starting the series. Wish me luck.
Wishing you all the luck.

Would it be too much to ask for regular updates and thoughts on the episodes? I know you already write mini-essays on art films on a regular basis, so it may be asking too much, but I for one would really appreciate it.

This is my favorite show of all time, and I could listen to/watch/read discussion and analysis of it for hours on end. Note that when I say favorite, I do not mean best. The best TV show of all time is The Wire, no contest. Twin Peaks is a flawed masterpiece, but to be honest, I doubt I'd really be capable of loving a perfect work of art with all my heart the way I do Twin Peaks.

Now, Twin Peaks is essentially a balancing act between three very different television shows.
  1. 1. A police procedural about a murdered teenage girl, where each episode is a day in the investigation. Everyone's a suspect, and the death of this one person sends shockwaves throughout the entire community.

    2. A parody of 80's and 90's era soap operas featuring ridiculous exaggerated acting, labyrinthine relationships, where everyone's sleeping with each other, and pulpy storytelling is just around the corner.

    3. A bizarre avant-garde exploration of the dark side of the American psyche and the dark duality of violence and sex not only found in human nature but also in the dirt and wood of the town itself.
And for roughly the first 16-18 episodes, it works.

Then things go a little wonky. You'll know it when it starts happening.

You can choose to either skip ahead, to when it gets good again, and it does get quite good again, or you can tough it out through some rough patches.

It's a journey worth taking, and especially now considering the 18-hour-long, solely Lynch directed SHOWTIME revival this May.

We'll be getting new episodes of Twin Peaks, the Leftovers, and Fargo all at the same time, not to mention comedies like Silicon Valley and Veep.

Truly the #goldenera of #PeakTV.
by insertnamehere
Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:43 pm
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: T W I N P E A K S {Season 3: May 21st}
Replies: 68
Views: 4157

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Spoilers for 1x00 "Pilot"
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On the crying/mucus/wailing:

While certainly parodying soap opera acting, and adding a surreal touch of emotional outbursts similar to stuff in Eraserhead, and many other Lynch movies, the fact that everyone seems to already be sobbing their eyes out before they're even told of Laura Palmer's death serves to highlight the complicity that the entire town feels. Without spoiling the rest of the series, there were multiple flashing warning signs about Laura's life that many people were highly aware of.

Think back to that initial phone call between Pete and Sheriff Truman.

PETE: "She's dead...wrapped in plastic."
TRUMAN: "Slow down, Pete. Where?"

'Where,' not 'who.'

In many ways, (but not in a literal sense) the answer to "who killed Laura Palmer" is the town itself.

It takes a village to murder a child.

FUN FACTOIDS: Multiple on-set mistakes were incorporated by Lynch into the episode. Namely, the flickering light during the autopsy, the deer head on the Police Office's conference room table, and a face - belonging to a set dresser - being caught in a mirror's reflection in the next-to-last shot of Sarah Palmer screaming her lungs out.

About 50% of the cast are Lynch veterans, with Pete being the main character of Eraserhead, and Agent Cooper being the protagonist of both Dune and Blue Velvet. Blue Velvet is, in my opinion at least, a definite precursor to Twin Peaks, almost like a "dry run." However, Kyle McLachlan's characters in both stories, at first glance, seem very different.

The Pilot is the only episode of Seasons 1 & 2 to be shot in Washington. The rest were filmed in LA. However, both Fire Walk With Me and the upcoming Season 3 return to Washington, and FWWM, in particular, uses many of the same sets and locations.

In the mid 90's, the network Bravo, which was still an "arts" channel and hadn't yet devolved into reality show garbage, bought the rights to re-air Twin Peaks. They approached Lynch to film some short introductions to each episode. They feature the Log Lady, in character, expressing certain vague sentiments that only really make sense on a rewatch. Even then, they're worth watching and can provide a key to understanding each episode.

by insertnamehere
Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:05 am
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: T W I N P E A K S {Season 3: May 21st}
Replies: 68
Views: 4157

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sprityo wrote:I watched a good deal of twin peaks, the first season. I don't believe I ever got around to finishing it (but I should)
It's really worth finishing. And worth rewatching. And discussing.

I very much like this show, in case that wasn't already obvious.
by insertnamehere
Sun Mar 19, 2017 5:53 pm
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: T W I N P E A K S {Season 3: May 21st}
Replies: 68
Views: 4157

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sprityo wrote:Update: I finished season 1

I als stayed up until 5:30 am doing so and feel ashamed.

(This is why I fear Netflix)
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Penny for your (spoiler tagged) thoughts?
by insertnamehere
Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:34 pm
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: T W I N P E A K S {Season 3: May 21st}
Replies: 68
Views: 4157

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Ricochet wrote:Diane, it is 6:28pm local and I am starting my thoughts on season 1, episode 1 (the real episode 1 of season 1, not the Pilot, that I erroneously wrote down as the episode 1 of season 1 two days ago), called "Traces to Nowhere", even though my mood and inspiration to scramble for such thoughts are minimal; oh, and do tell that bastard INH that until he drives down here to taste this damn delicious P I E he ain't lived for real
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Mmso, I don't think there's much to say about this one, it was palatable and passable, but I wouldn't say there were any particular high marks, unless I missed some esoteric stuff. I liked the Pilot as a piece of work more than this one. There were moments like Cooper arriving to the police station, early at the beginning, that I didn't feel much heart put into either the deadpan or the set pieceing of such a scene. Really driven to create more connections, ties, interactions episode, adding more beef to the individual stories, creating more telenovela-like minor twists and OH MY GOD KILLER BOB

To be honest, I'm giving a big plus to the fact that he is introduced already. Dunno why, but expected him to be like a season 2 addition or once the weirder plots get into gear. But instead, it's as good and quick of an intro as The Smoke Monster was in Lost [it was everything else that was added and overblown as mystery- and mythos-expading carp, after one and a half seasons of mostly straightforward drama].

Is Fenn's character even close to Cooper's age? Or is this pedo territory? Please tell me it's not pedo territory.

I'm reading that the scenes between Shelley and whatever-her-husbando-is-called garnered debate re: its quality and grippiness, but I wasn't fully sold on it, still looked like telenovela tier. Makes me fully expect "Shelley, what happened with yer eye" / "Oh, it's nothing, I fell down the stairs." / "Don't you worry, I'll kill that bastard." / "Oh, please Bobby, don't go near him." follow up scenes in the next episode. Plus, she made a Catch-22-like, dumb move for herself, hiding away the shirt. Good move for us, the movie watchers, and if it should prove important for the investigation. But irrevocably dumb for her.

I suppose Nadine''s scene counts as the fringiest, cringiest in the chemistry of the episode, but even here, it only made me think that she looks like "Mountain Snake" from Kill Bill. Wait... surely Tarantino didn't steal that look from here, did he? Tarantino, pls.

Also, quite odd use of "diegetic"-hinting or -alluding music, like when Josie is visited by Coop and Truman and I heard some chimney-tooting sounds (taken from "LP's theme", I think) in the faint background. Reminds me of something I didn't mention, the volume of the music changing in the Pilot, when Shelley and Bobby left the diner... which made no bloody sense from a diegetic viewpoint and even less sense to turn it down a notch from a non-diegetic viewpoint. Wyrd.

"what's a shenanigan"

Pool of suspects lottery
Both Whatever-Shelley's-Husbando-Is-Called and The-Psych seem too on the nose to be the case, so I'm calling bait on those drama cues - unless it's literal WIFOM
Ricochet wrote:Diane, it is 6:08pm and I'm starting to write down what I thought after seeing Season 1, Episode 2 "Zen, or the Skill to Catch a Killer", again, to stress, quite superficial notes, since a cup of joe is all the time I have to myself throughout the day to watch this once. Oh, and I guess you don't have to tell Albert anything anymore, since he finally showed up here.
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Ricochet wrote:To be honest, I'm giving a big plus to the fact that he is introduced already. Dunno why, but expected him to be like a season 2 addition or once the weirder plots get into gear. But instead, it's as good and quick of an intro as The Smoke Monster was in Lost [it was everything else that was added and overblown as mystery- and mythos-expading carp, after one and a half seasons of mostly straightforward drama].
Well color me double-impressed for all the Black Lodge setting also being introduced already. I really didn't expect this site of the mythology to be added this early in the show, but there's Lynch for ya, I suppose.
Ricochet wrote:I'm reading that the scenes between Shelley and whatever-her-husbando-is-called garnered debate re: its quality and grippiness, but I wasn't fully sold on it, still looked like telenovela tier. Makes me fully expect "Shelley, what happened with yer eye" / "Oh, it's nothing, I fell down the stairs." / "Don't you worry, I'll kill that bastard." / "Oh, please Bobby, don't go near him." follow up scenes in the next episode.
I guess I could check a quarter of this betting check.

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Fenn is killing it so far. Though it's still disquieting that my question regarding her age in the assumed pending flirtatious relationship with Cooper has not been answered. INH, y u no answer. Quite bizarre, however, of a diegetic-implied use of that jazzy tune as a danceable diner jukebox track. Felt like trying to squeeze a square through a circle. Did Badalamenti not go outside to socialize much in his life?

The humor / deadpan / cringe writing is both amusing and vexing me, at this stage. I don't feel quite ready to bend the knee to Lynch's style in this regard. Quite sleazy scenes with the Horne brothers, even for my taste.

Am I missing something with the bottle scene, apart from its gimmicky presentation of Cooper's train of thoughts?

And then...

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I suppose one thing to remind myself is that this was 1990 pulling-of-the-rug moment, not present time I've-seen-enough-surreal-shit-already. I'm not set to claim that the scene melted my circuits - with the reverse talking stuff giving me a slight "whyyy" first reaction (does this improve or is this the end result of Lynch experimenting with Anderson, even after the former discovered that the latter is pretty kickass at reverse talking?) - but I think with revisits or sinking into this third layer of the show this should improve.

Pool of suspects lottery

This is now pointless, because I've accidentally upon the answer to whodunnit. FOK. Oh well. Was planning to note the show chooses to pedal on The Psych and Joe as suspects, following the previous' episode build, which I'd catalogue as a straightforward path to fuel the series' episodic steps.
Spoilers for 1x01 and 1x02:
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RE: Establishing of the mythology

Yep, a whole lotta things get set up in those early episodes, though the "supernatual/avant-garde/mindfuck" aspect does disappear for episodes at a time over the course of the show.

A good rule of thumb is to expect tons of that stuff in the seven Lynch-directed episodes of the series, and a sparingly small amount during episodes directed by other people.

The number one big reason why I'm so excited for Season 3 is that Lynch is directing all 18 episodes, which I think will provide a level of cohesion and depth that the original series lacks. Also, weird shit. I like me some weird shit.

RE: Audrey

Audrey Horne is 18. As in, just turned 18. So, not illegal, but would be icky all the same.

RE: Leo/Shelly Relationship

The early scenes with those two are a little rough. Leo is, let's face it, not played by the best actor. He's the casting director's son, in case you were wondering how he got the part. I think a more nuanced actor would be able to pull off the contradictory tones of the alternately intentionally hackneyed and the legitimately menacing. Instead, it's a little bit cringy.

RE: Quentin Tarantino

The Kill Bill duology are the only movies of his I haven't seen, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if Nadine directly inspired something in that film. Tarantino is on record as being a massive Peaks/Lynch fan until Fire Walk With Me, which was, according to him, so bad that he renounced all of Lynch's work.

Frankly, I just don't listen to a word that comes out of Quentin Tarantino's mouth. It makes his films much more enjoyable.

RE: Use of Badalamenti's score

One little thing I like about the series is how it constantly erases the line between diegetic/non-diegetic sound, what with Julee Cruise singing dream pop at a biker bar, and Badalamenti's score being played in the background of completely inappropriate places.

RE: Dream sequence at the end of 1x02

Legitimately one of my favorite sequences in film. I know it's technically television and not film, but at the same time, shut up, I really like it. That stuff aired in 1990, on ABC primetime. It ran against fucking Cheers. Imagine flipping the channel over at random and seeing that.

I'm legitimately amazed that Twin Peaks existed. Well, I guess we can say it still exists, thanks to the Season 3 that I will force myself to like no matter its' actual quality thanks to the sunk-cost fallacy.

You said you already know the killer's identity. Would you be so kind as to discuss that a little more in a clearly marked spoiler section? If the spoiler is right, that's a real bummer, as it makes the show lose more than a bit of narrative grist.
by insertnamehere
Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:40 pm
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: T W I N P E A K S {Season 3: May 21st}
Replies: 68
Views: 4157

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sprityo wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
sprityo wrote:Update: I finished season 1

I als stayed up until 5:30 am doing so and feel ashamed.

(This is why I fear Netflix)
Image

Penny for your (spoiler tagged) thoughts?
Spoiler: show
well the first season was nice but ended on a weird note, and of course a cliffhanger.

I watched the first hour of the season 2 premier and already I feel it's different. There has been minimal weird spooky moments, only one I can think of was Madeline (or whoever Laura's identical cousin is) seeing the patch of blood/whatever that is on the floor.

Otherwise it's had this weird comedy mood to it. Like when Andy steps on the plank and hits himself in the face. Also the entire like 15 minute gag with the butler at the start. Way too drawn out.
Spoiler for 2x01
Spoiler: show
Oddly enough, you do in fact get more weird spooky moments in the premiere after the first hour. And seriously, fuckin' dapper giant dude talking about owls not being what they seem wasn't enough weird shit for you?

Not gonna lie, I unabashedly love the sequence with the butler. You have to realize the context here. Against all rational logic, Twin Peaks is a hit television show and a bona fide national phenomenon, to the surprise of everyone, especially Lynch himself. He opens the second season by poking fans who desperately want resolution to the cliffhangers directly in the eye. About half of the viewing audience flipped the channel after the first 30 minutes of the Season 2 premiere, which feels like an intentional move on Lynch's part.

For me personally, I laugh my ass off every time I see that uber-long, bizarre exchange while Cooper's bleeding out on the floor. Something about it speaks to my sense of humor, idk.
by insertnamehere
Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:28 pm
Forum: Tinsel Town
Topic: T W I N P E A K S {Season 3: May 21st}
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Views: 4157

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Spoilers for 1x03 and 1x04:
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The funeral sequence is probably my favorite Non-Lynch sequence of the show. Just some fantastic bizarre cringe comedy.

Cooper fits the mold of a Douglas Adams-type Holistic Detective who relies on dreams and the "interconnectedness of the universe." He works better as a clearly defined mental outlook than a realistic FBI agent, although the Federal Bureau of Investigation in this show is utterly bizarre.

Don S. Davis is a friggin' constellation.

These episodes, 1x04 especially, are more piece moving episodes that are necessary to get from point A to point B. I like them, as they still exist in the quirky, contradictory, and idiosyncratic world established in the Lynch-directed episodes. The moment with the llama, as triggering as it must have been for you, Ricochet, was still a great moment.

RE: Shelley's bruise

Makeup, I'm guessing? Although you'd need a hell of a lot of foundation.
by insertnamehere
Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:27 am
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Yep, the nordic stereotypes, bizarrely grafted onto the show, are a bit awkward. They aren't exactly offensive, mainly because it's hard to see a Scandinavian taking them seriously.

James is a moron. He really is. His best scene in the series by far is the one at the end of the Pilot. The depths of his stupidity only become more and more apparent as the show goes on.

You correctly identified the axis on which the show swivels and hops: Cooper investigating the Laura Palmer murder. As long as that storytelling core is there, the show can afford to go really broad, or really melodramatic, or really bizarre.

But yeah, the Leo stuff is always wonky. I blame the actor.
by insertnamehere
Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:31 pm
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First off, sorry for not being able to keep up with your updates. I'll attempt to provide more reliably constant smirkingly informed commentary from here on out.

Those places look pretty damn picturesque. And the graveyard is especially appropriate for the part of the series you're getting close to.

Jack Nance, the actor who played Pete Martell, was a goddamn national treasure and should be revered for time immemorial. He also died in a donut shop fist fight, appropriately enough.

Gonna be honest, I unabashedly love the two intentionally offputting Lynch directed sequences in the first two episodes of season 2- the long scene with the waiter, and the "Just You" performance followed by the BOB attack.

RE: Senor Droolcup, allow me to quote myself.
insertnamehere wrote:You have to realize the context here. Against all rational logic, Twin Peaks is a hit television show and a bona fide national phenomenon, to the surprise of everyone, especially Lynch himself. He opens the second season by poking fans who desperately want resolution to the cliffhangers directly in the eye. About half of the viewing audience flipped the channel after the first 30 minutes of the Season 2 premiere, which feels like an intentional move on Lynch's part.

For me personally, I laugh my ass off every time I see that uber-long, bizarre exchange while Cooper's bleeding out on the floor. Something about it speaks to my sense of humor, idk.
The "Just You" scene and the chaser of BOB vaulting over the couch also work in the super duper sincere and super duper fucked up vein of the show. YMMV, obviously, but all of Lynch's directoral quirks just work for me.

Episode 2x03 is one of better non-Lynch episodes, definitely. Nice Coen Brothers reference. Now there's a filmography that could be easily suited for mafia.

This is about when the show loses the plot with Audrey. She just kinda got stuck at One Eyed Jack's until she became mostly irrelevant.

Leo's character becomes ten times more ridiculous and ten times more interesting in Season 2.

The Harold plot is a nice little contained performance and bit of entertaining stalling.

Also, Rico, WHAT DID YOU THINK ABOUT THE LITTLE MAGICIAN BOY WITH THE CREAMED CORN

C'mon, you gotta have something to say about that.
by insertnamehere
Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:04 pm
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Ricochet wrote:
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insertnamehere wrote: Jack Nance, the actor who played Pete Martell, was a goddamn national treasure and should be revered for time immemorial. He also died in a donut shop fist fight, appropriately enough.
You're making this us. Good lord. Anyway, you're replying to something concerning the s1 cliffhanger, and Pete has been fine since, so I will still get to enjoy him a bit longer. He's the kind of relative I would have liked to tell me bedtime stories. For one, he would have made the funniest voices, hence awesome. For two, the stories would have taken seven hours, considering how slow he talks, hence double awesome.
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He plays the main character in Eraserhead, and also has roles in Lynch's Wild At Heart, Lost Highway, and (wink wink, nudge nudge) Blue Velvet.
Ricochet wrote:
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insertnamehere wrote: Also, Rico, WHAT DID YOU THINK ABOUT THE LITTLE MAGICIAN BOY WITH THE CREAMED CORN
Theeee...........

Yeah, you should tell by now that thing flew by me.
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This scene:


And yes, that's David Lynch's son. It looks eerily like a miniature version of him.
by insertnamehere
Tue May 23, 2017 11:11 pm
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Hey Rico, you watching this crazy shit?
by insertnamehere
Mon May 29, 2017 9:01 pm
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Ricochet wrote: Mon May 29, 2017 3:46 pm On the other hand, though... the reverse speeches (or whatever it is)used to be better made than this. Sherry Lee sounded real good at it. But now in ep2 her lines sounded like shit.

And wouldnt you know, the only actor who was actually skilled at it got into an edgy feud and was replaced with a tree. Blargh.
Eh. The "...yet I live" and screaming parts were enough to convince me that Sheryl Lee's still got it.

As far as Mike Anderson goes...
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by insertnamehere
Mon Jun 12, 2017 12:59 am
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me at having to wait another week to see Laura Dern as Diane with that bitchin haircut

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by insertnamehere
Sun Jun 25, 2017 10:08 pm
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This is the water, and this is the well. Drink full, and descend.
The horse is the white of the eyes, and dark within.

THIS IS THE WATER, AND THIS IS THE WELL. DRINK FULL, AND DESCEND.
THE HORSE IS THE WHITE OF THE EYES, AND DARK WITHIN.

i love this show so fucking much.
by insertnamehere
Mon Jul 31, 2017 4:41 pm
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Ricochet wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:43 pm I CLAPPED, I CLAPPED WHEN I SAW AUDREY

I CLAPPED BECAUSE I KNOW TWIN PEAKS

I KNOW WHAT THAT IIIIIIIIS
Yeaaah, this was probably my least favorite episode of The Return, Sarah Palmer and CEILING FAN aside.

Stalling in a painfully self-aware way. The sweeping scene from Part 7 writ into an entire episode.

But hey, at least we still know that Grace Zabriskie is a fucking great actress, if "BRUTAL FUCKING MURDER" didn't convince you.

(seriously, wtf was with that Audrey scene. In one way, it's Lynch giving the middle finger to people expecting fanservice like you describe, by putting Audrey in some clearly unhappy marriage with the little dude from The Path. On the other hand, jesus fucking christ David Lynch we don't need ten more goddamn plotlines about people we don't know. And yes, I know that you know that, and you're choosing to do them anyway, but self-awareness doesn't make mediocrity somehow legitimate.) *cough cough emoji posting*

Still greatly enjoying the show, but I can't help but be thankful I saw the first two seasons on Netflix, and could just get through the less-than-stellar parts without waiting a week in-between.
by insertnamehere
Mon Jul 31, 2017 4:46 pm
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still the best line reading of all time
by insertnamehere
Sun Aug 27, 2017 10:56 pm
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My reaction to this weeks' episode:

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by insertnamehere
Sun Sep 03, 2017 10:34 pm
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well

part 17 was fantastic, loved every second

part 18...

well

it's gonna take me a while to formulate an opinion.

We waited twenty five years for Season 3 to resolve the cliffhangers from Seasons 1 & 2.

Hopefully we won't have to wait that long for the cliffhangers from Season 3 to be resolved. Because...I have some questions.

A lot of fucking questions.

But shit, no other movie or television show in a long while made me this invested, even if Part 18 is an epilogue which potentially invalidates the entire series

If there's no Season 4, and there's no plans for a Season 4, I'll have to just stand and applaud for the sheer testicle size that it takes to produce Part 18.

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