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by indiglo
Sun Sep 18, 2016 1:28 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [ENDGAME]
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 11]

"Welcome indiglo, thanks for subbing into this huge, overwhelming game that's been going on for over a month already!"

"Oh thanks so much for the warm welcome everyone, I'll do what I can in this game I know nothing about!"


:shrug2:


ANYWAY...

Whoever posted that rainbow list and has sig as orange, you are off base. Nutella, also, way off. If there were any actual issues with sig, I'm happy to try to address them to the best of my ability, but you are indeed barking up the wrong tree. I am not Yellow. It washes me out, I strictly told Epi I don't do yellow. :pout:

I'm not really sure where to look first here, but I appreciate DFaraday linking to something I can actually read. I am not going to attempt to read the entire thread, but I would like to try to get my feet under me as quickly as possible. So feel free to point me in any direction.

I would like to verify a few things I have picked up on trying to read the roles, etc:
- The baddies in the game have recruitment options, but they are limited to a certain number only, and certain roles only, correct?
- Another question, who is "Zuo Ci" in the poll? I assume it's a sockpuppet account (I'm bright like that :noble: ) but is there any other info on who it is, and how they came to be? I will look through the roles again and see if there is an official role that sends a message through the host, or if that may be the fruit of a reward of some sort.

That's all I can come up with for now.

But also, yay on having some successful lynches! Is there a general consensus where/who to look at for today? Also, do you have a general strategy on how you are choosing where to place both votes each day? (Like, a general "duel winner" vs. a "suspected baddie"? Or just 2 suspected baddies? Or what here?)

I think that actually may be it for now. But feel free to speak to me as though I just joined a big game and don't know really what's going on. :grin:
by indiglo
Sun Sep 18, 2016 8:25 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [ENDGAME]
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 11]

Dom wrote:hi indi. :)

i'm not the greatest person to answer your questions. I've been very busy and just diong my best to keep my head above water. I've just been voting for whoever I think is bad. HOWEVER, I notice that you ask a lot of questions and have a certain level of ignorance in the game. Why, then, are you confident that nutella is civ?
I am not confident that Nutella is civ. I am only confident in telling her that her suspicion of sig (and therefore of me) is wrong. Sorry if I was confusing in my wording!
by indiglo
Sun Sep 18, 2016 8:30 pm
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Topic: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [ENDGAME]
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 11]

Matahari wrote:Hi Indi, welcome. I replaced in too, and I'm a bit more comfortable now, but still find myself researching posts constantly. Good luck to you.

I have found four players who did not seem eager to vote inactives. Quin, Sig (sorry Indi), Golden, and Lorab (in sideways fashion? Lorab suspected Glorf, I think, for mentioning inactives a lot, as though he was trying to point suspicion their way, but she also pointed out that he only mentioned voting them once, and she found this suspicious for some reason).

On the one hand, this is suspicious because we have turned up 2 bad inactives now, but on the other hand, there is more btsc than just bad teams. I also have a theory that Epignosis is not replacing the mafia inactives. I could be wrong there, of course, but I'm kind of stuck on that.
Hi Mata! I'm glad you have found a certain level of comfort as a replacement, I hope I can attain something in that neighborhood at some point. Ok, so it seems (at least for you) that the suspicion of sig comes from his not wanting to vote inactives. I cannot, unfortunately, explain his thought process on that.

I do think it is more likely that Epi would replace civs with no BTSC who are inactive, since I am pretty sure I read in his rules that baddie teams can send in group night PMs. I don't know how many people have already replaced in though, I only know my personal situation. So I suppose my frame of reference is quite limited.
by indiglo
Sun Sep 18, 2016 8:38 pm
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Topic: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [ENDGAME]
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 11]

nutella wrote:Whoops, missed the replacement, hi indi!
To answer some of your questions:
- Zuo Ci is a sock that posted a fair amount in the last day period and also voted. Interesting if he's still around today. IIRC Daisy's flipped role is the one that "summons apparitions" and someone had a theory that he was one such apparition? Or maybe the theory was that the other sock we encountered earlier (who only posted in Chinese) was that and Zuo Ci is from another role, but I don't remember.
- I don't quite understand your question about baddie recruitment. We know of an indie role that recruits, but we don't know about the baddie teams for sure -- though I have stated that I think it's a strong possibility that the YTs have recruiting ability since they started with fewer players than Nanman and are full of secrets. I think based on the wording of your question, unless you know something we don't about the baddie teams ;) , you're referring to the indie role -- looks like he is limited to recruiting one warrior from each kingdom.
- We have been generally dueling the two top baddie suspects. There has been much discourse since the beginning of the game about the "winner" strategy given the winner gets a prize, and some players (notably Bass) have confidently volunteered themselves to duel, but we've been voting based on suspicion and have so far never had a shortage of candidates to pit against each other :p
Thanks! (Also, a BIG thank you to everyone who is trying to answer some of my questions here. I realize they are probably questions that you guys dealt with at the beginning of the game - such as how to do your 2 votes - so sorry to have to drudge all that basic stuff back up again. Thank you for the patience and help!)

Ok, yes, as I look at the role list, it looks like Yuan Shao the recruiter is an independent. I am re-reading it now. That doesn't really seem to be a terribly detrimental issue at this time though, unless it were to come down to a numbers thing at end game. As long as I'm understanding that correctly.

Has anyone found it odd or suspicious that Bass confidently volunteered to duel, but hasn't been NKed yet?

I am curious how many of the Yellows have been killed so far. There isn't a post in this thread with results or anything to even link me to each Day's post or Night post. :puppy: So I can go look into the polls thread, and see how much that clarifies things, and helps me get some idea of how things have gone down.
by indiglo
Sun Sep 18, 2016 8:44 pm
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Topic: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [ENDGAME]
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 11]

Scotty wrote:You're welcome.
DFaraday wrote:
LoRab wrote:Kidnapped again. Meh.

I need to go back and check who mentioned me early on both times I was silenced, as I think it was perhaps purposeful.

I'm not bad. I may have unpopluar points of view and I may be stubborn as shit about them. But that's me being me. Yes, I voted INH late. Because that's when I got online. And I saw that there had been good points made about him. No, I hadn't mentioned him before. He was slightly pingy in the back of my brain for running for prefect and disappearing, but it was a dull and minor ping, and was never relevant enough (or pingy enough) to mention.

That seems to be the basic gist of the case against me. If there is anything else, let me know.
I mean, I made a whole case on you before that wasn't about tunneling. :shrug2: Since it's absurdly long, I'll just link it here. The basic reason is in response to this train of events:

Glorf presents a case on Timmer
Lorab: That's a convincing case *votes Timmer*
Timmer turns out to be civ
Lorab: It was all a baddie ploy, Glorf is bad!

Going along with the case, then immediately (literally, her very next post) turning around and going after the guy who presented it when it turns out to be incorrect struck me as very shady, even more so now that we know Glorf was civ.

In addition, as I outlined in my earlier post, Lorab was not only tunneling TH, she was, in my opinion, twisting the facts to fit her case on him. The fact that she keeps saying the only case on her is for tunneling (as she also did here)only makes me more suspicious of her.
Wait, where was this canon? I don't think we know that at all. Did I miss something?

Also, LoRab, kidnapped again eh? I could believe that, but I also am wary of kidnappings at this stage. I think you very well could be Nanman.



I do not suspect indiglo in the slightest right now because if she were a YT she would have killed someone last night. But YT didn't kill. Again.

I'm all for lynching an inactive at this point to eliminate the YT's (if they haven't been eliminated already, but I assume Epi would notify us of such). If the YTs have been eliminated, Mr. indie leader would take over and we haven't seen that yet.
Look at you, answering my question about how many Yellows have been killed/or are left before I even asked it.

Ok, Mr. Psychic... what will I ask next?? :grin:


Let's try this then:

@The Honorable Epignosis - Will we be told if one team/faction/family/whatever is eliminated?



Also, sorry for all the multi posting. I am catching up, but can attempt to keep things in 1 post from now on. I forget how annoying that can be for other people to just see 10 posts from me in a row. :omg:
by indiglo
Sun Sep 18, 2016 8:51 pm
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Topic: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [ENDGAME]
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 11]

Matahari wrote:I'm a bit curious about Dunny. He beat INH who was a nanman warrior. The yt team has no warriors left, if my notes are right, and the nanman team has one warrior left. So, for Dunny to be bad, he would have had to be on the same team as INH, right? That's possible, I suppose. I forgot to check whether the indys have a warrior.
There appears to be 1 indy Warrior:

Lu Bu
Warrior
A most fearsome warrior, and rider of Red Hare.
By the third Night, Lu Bu must decide what faction he will fight for and achieve victory with. *Secrets*
Victory condition: Win with his aligned faction and survive.


So, if he's alive, I imagine he's no longer indy. No way of knowing which faction he'd side with.



Also, there is this indy:

Dong Zhuo
Leader
This notorious warlord has an entourage of bodyguards, protecting him always from assassination.
Cannot be Night killed. Inherits the Yellow Turban kill.
Victory condition: Last Man Standing.


I don't know if that description would make him hard to kill in a duel, or just simply refers to the fact that he can't be NKed. Interesting is that he inherits the Yellows kill. So... either there are inactive Yellows left, or he is also dead. But, wouldn't you all know if he were killed? Because duel losers are revealed, yes?
by indiglo
Sun Sep 18, 2016 8:55 pm
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Topic: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [ENDGAME]
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 11]

Epignosis wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Sorsha wrote:Epignosis- Will you announce when a team has been eliminated?
I never do that. :feb:

Should have guessed. :meany: Doesn't hurt to ask though! :beer:

So therefore, as far as I can tell, based on the fact that an Indy inherits the Yellows kill, and there hasn't been a Yellow kill in a while, either the remaining Yellow is inactive, or all Yellows are dead and the Indy is inactive.

Ok, I will stop posting for a bit, but keep this stuff simmering in the back of my head. But wasn't it fun to have so many new posts to read? :grin: :haha: :goofp:
by indiglo
Sun Sep 18, 2016 11:29 pm
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Topic: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [ENDGAME]
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 11]

Mata, that tip about looking at Epi's posts was extremely helpful. I have now lost several hours, but I do have a couple pages of notes that will likely prove useless! Hooray! :clap: :haha:


So, throughout the game, 3 Nans have lost duels and 2 Yellows. At most, that leaves 2 Nans (Jinhuan Sanjie - Warrior and Meng Huo- Leader) 1 Yellow (Zhang Jiao - Leader) to get through. Who knows if any of those were taken out via NK. (Plus the Indy Leader, IIRC.)


NK Analysis:
The Yellows (MP, SD, +YTLeader) took out the following people, in order: SVS (Night 2, NKed by: entire Yellow team), Soneji (Night 4, after MP died, NKed by: SD + Leader), Reywas (Night 6, NKed by: SD + Leader)

The Nans (Wilgy, Marmot, INH, +NanWarrior and NanLeader) took out the following, in order: JJJ (Night 2, after Wilgy & Marmot died, NKed by: INH + War. & Lead.), Rico (Night 3, NKed by: INH + War. & Lead.), TH (Night 4, NKed by: INH + War. & Lead.), Glorf (Night 5, Nked by: INH + War. & Lead.), Sorsha (Night 7, NKed by: INH + War. & Lead.), Elo (Night 9, after INH died, NKed by: Warrior + Leader), Golden (Night 10, NKed by: Warrior + Leader)



I noticed an interesting pattern regarding the duels when it comes to BassTheClever. He defeated 2 Wu/Civ Warriors in duels, DDL (after 2 rounds) and Russti (after 1 round). What I find interesting is that Russti had previously defeated 1 Nan Warrior (Marmot) after 2 rounds and 1 Yellow Strategist (MP) after 3 rounds.

There was a point I was going to make regarding that, but I have now lost it in the excruciating minutiae of this post.

I do feel like a couple of the days in particular may be worth me looking back on - particularly Day 2 (Russti, civ warrior VS Marmot, baddie warrior), Day 4 (Russti, civ warrior VS MP, baddie strategist) and then Days 7 and 8 (7 - Bass, ? VS DDL, civ warrior; 8 - Bass, ? VS Russti, civ warrior). I'm curious as to how those days shook out, who voted where, and why.

If anyone remembers any of those days, or has any additional input, feel free to share.

My brain is now mush, so I shall retire to the drawing room. :beer:
by indiglo
Sun Sep 18, 2016 11:32 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [ENDGAME]
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 11]

Fixing some of the formatting, for clarity.
indiglo wrote:Mata, that tip about looking at Epi's posts was extremely helpful. I have now lost several hours, but I do have a couple pages of notes that will likely prove useless! Hooray! :clap: :haha:


So, throughout the game, 3 Nans have lost duels and 2 Yellows. At most, that leaves 2 Nans (Jinhuan Sanjie - Warrior and Meng Huo- Leader) 1 Yellow (Zhang Jiao - Leader) to get through. Who knows if any of those were taken out via NK. (Plus the Indy Leader, IIRC.)


NK Analysis:
The Yellows (MP, SD, +YTLeader) took out the following people, in order:
SVS (Night 2, NKed by: entire Yellow team),
Soneji (Night 4, after MP died, NKed by: SD + Leader),
Reywas (Night 6, NKed by: SD + Leader)

The Nans (Wilgy, Marmot, INH, +NanWarrior and NanLeader) took out the following, in order:
JJJ (Night 2, after Wilgy & Marmot died, NKed by: INH + War. & Lead.),
Rico (Night 3, NKed by: INH + War. & Lead.),
TH (Night 4, NKed by: INH + War. & Lead.),
Glorf (Night 5, Nked by: INH + War. & Lead.),
Sorsha (Night 7, NKed by: INH + War. & Lead.),
Elo (Night 9, after INH died, NKed by: Warrior + Leader),
Golden (Night 10, NKed by: Warrior + Leader)



I noticed an interesting pattern regarding the duels when it comes to BassTheClever. He defeated 2 Wu/Civ Warriors in duels, DDL (after 2 rounds) and Russti (after 1 round). What I find interesting is that Russti had previously defeated 1 Nan Warrior (Marmot) after 2 rounds and 1 Yellow Strategist (MP) after 3 rounds.

There was a point I was going to make regarding that, but I have now lost it in the excruciating minutiae of this post.

I do feel like a couple of the days in particular may be worth me looking back on -
particularly Day 2 (Russti, civ warrior VS Marmot, baddie warrior),
Day 4 (Russti, civ warrior VS MP, baddie strategist)
and then Days 7 and 8 (7 - Bass, ? VS DDL, civ warrior; 8 - Bass, ? VS Russti, civ warrior).
I'm curious as to how those days shook out, who voted where, and why.

If anyone remembers any of those days, or has any additional input, feel free to share.

My brain is now mush, so I shall retire to the drawing room. :beer:
by indiglo
Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:51 pm
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Topic: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [ENDGAME]
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 11]

I think I'm going to follow suit and vote for:

Ninja and Jan
by indiglo
Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:54 pm
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 11]

Also, in my head, I say Jan as a Dutch name. I hope that is correct.
by indiglo
Wed Sep 21, 2016 1:19 pm
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 12]

Yes, it looks like the Nan took out Sloonei. But no Yellow kill... so that's at least good.

I actually think this day phase I'm going to go back through the known baddies that have lost duels, and look for connections between them and other players. With as little talking as is currently happening, I suppose looking back is going to be my best bet.
by indiglo
Thu Sep 22, 2016 12:35 am
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 12]

I plan to begin my reading just a bit tonight, and then do more tomorrow due to "time" and "scheduling".


Anyway, I have to ask, (since I'm new here) when did this determination to get rid of all the inactives take such a firm hold on everyone's thinking? I understand that the remaining Yellow, or Indy with the Yellow NK seems to be inactive, but there is only 1 (or 2) of them, while the Nan have stayed active, and there are more of them remaining? Yet no one seems to be looking for them? Everyone just seems to plow ahead on the inactives. I'm genuinely curious here, not judging.
by indiglo
Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:04 am
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 12]

Reading MetalMarsh...

Here's a pattern I noticed. (Which, JJJ picked up on straight away, earning himself a NK from the Nan)

MM talked to Wilgy (his Nan teammate) a LOT in the thread. In fact, in many of MM's posts he would refer to Wilgy and 1 other player. For example (I am just posting a brief sampling, the patterns I noticed happened over a large number of MM's posts, and multiple times, but to save space and time I'm keeping this post as brief as I can):
Metalmarsh89 wrote:I give my votes to DrWilgy and JaggedJimmyJay, in hopes they will perform as they did in Talking Heads mafia.

I'm leaving for a camping trip soon. I'll be back on Wednesday. Peace!
Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm voting for DrWilgy and Turnip Head in the hopes that one of them will end up dueling me. :workit: Oh, and the day ends in 75 minutes.

Catch you all later.

In both these, he talked about Wilgy and first JJJ and then TH. What do JJJ and TH both have in common? They were NKed by Nan. So MM likes to talk about his teammates, and his NK targets this game, apparently.


He did make a few posts that actually didn't mention Wilgy, like this one:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Jan wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
You have a 71% chance of being correct about a civilian read.
You have a 29% chance of being correct about a non-civilian read.

Therefore, civilian reads are more likely to be accurate.
Oh lord, turns out I misunderstood the whole point that person was making. And here as well, I thought you were trying to convince me to make wild guesses by giving me that proportion.

I thought they basically had said that civilians are more likely to read scum correctly than scum, which is pretty obvious and facepalmed.

I guess I should go to sleep. Image
Well there you go. :beer: Have a good rest.


He also had a few posts going back and forth with Scotty where he did NOT mention Wilgy. That makes me think that neither Jan nor Scotty are teammates with MM, because he broke his usual pattern of mentioning a teammate, and a NK target.



Then, there's this post, which kind of sticks out like a sore thumb to me:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I should just start playing like MM. He has more fun than I do.
Are you not having fun? :(

Stay determined friend.

DrWilgy wrote:
nutella wrote:Oh I also want to hear more from Wilgy. I feel like he's usually a lot more active than this, but I keep forgetting he's even in this game and I don't think that's a good sign. Likewise with sig, to a slightly lesser extent.
How could you forget about me LoRab? I was at work and had dnd night, but never left...
LoRab hasn't posted yet DrWilgy. Does that bother you?

Here's why it sticks out like a sore thumb: he sticks to his pattern of mentioning Wilgy and a NK target (JJJ) but he also mentions nutella and LoRab in the same post. Neither of which has been NKed by Nan. That's what leaves me scratching my head. Anytime he's mentioned Wilgy (which was a LOT) it was also in a post with someone the Nan NKed. Then, he has some interactions in other posts with people I deem non-teammates, due to his pattern. Then, he has this - fits the pattern, but also has extra names. Are those extra names additional teammates? I can't know, but it definitely piques my interest.

Makes me want to do a read on both nutella and LoRab. Thoughts?

For now, I will move on to Wilgy, the other known Nan.
by indiglo
Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:13 am
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 1]

Reading Wilgy was quick. And hoooo-boy did these couple of posts stick out like a glaring, flashing, emergency beacon of some sort (after having read MM's posts, that is):

DrWilgy wrote:
nutella wrote:Oh I also want to hear more from Wilgy. I feel like he's usually a lot more active than this, but I keep forgetting he's even in this game and I don't think that's a good sign. Likewise with sig, to a slightly lesser extent.
How could you forget about me LoRab? I was at work and had dnd night, but never left...

DrWilgy wrote:
Scotty wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:
nutella wrote:Oh I also want to hear more from Wilgy. I feel like he's usually a lot more active than this, but I keep forgetting he's even in this game and I don't think that's a good sign. Likewise with sig, to a slightly lesser extent.
How could you forget about me LoRab? I was at work and had dnd night, but never left...
wat

It's like you just woke up from a bad dream at precisely the time someone talks about you
Marmot friend told me in btsc that I was being talked about.

Im very suspicious of Lorab now that you mention it Marmot friend!


Look at the names involved here: Marmot, Wilgy, LoRab, nutella... That seems likely an awfully big coincidence to me.

Now I am even MORE interested in doing a read on LoRab and nutella. Any thoughts? Ideas?
by indiglo
Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:22 am
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 12]

More reading will have to wait until tomorrow. Brain is tired. :puppy:
by indiglo
Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:32 pm
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 12]

Quin wrote: I came to a similar conclusion in an earlier post, but without LoRab because I'm 99 percent sure he just got the two names mixed up and the dialogue just went in that direction. I also mentioned that sig looks bad in my analysis :llama:
So you feel nutella is more likely their Nan teammate over LoRab? Sorry, just trying to clarify.

And you felt sig was also their Nan teammate? Sorry, I haven't yet read your analysis, so I may be getting what you said confused. Fortunately for me, I don't have to waste my time analyzing sig, because I know the role. ;)
by indiglo
Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:37 pm
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 12]

Welcome Aragorn! I only just subbed in as well, so I feel your confusion and pain.

A couple tidbits that were shared with me to help me get my feet under me - to get an overview of all the day and night results, search Epi's in topic posts.

After that, I am currently working on reading all those who were killed and revealed baddies during the day posts to see what relationships I can find, so far, I feel like that's going pretty well.

Any questions, just ask!
by indiglo
Thu Sep 22, 2016 2:14 pm
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 12]

Reading LoRab...


So far, every single suspicion she's harped on has either been Nked by the Nan or civ (lost a duel and was revealed to be civ).

Examples:
- Timmer, lost duel day 3, Shu Warrior
(Here's a note of interest, LoRab felt there was a baddie link between Timmer and TH, yet when Timmer died as a proven civ, she didn't drop her suspicion of TH)
- TH, Nked night 4 by Nan
- Glorf, NKed night 5 by Nan
- TheCapsFan, lost duel day 6, Shu Warrior


That's a pretty bad track record, and makes me wonder if the few other people she's suspected are likely to be civ also.
Other suspects she's mentioned:
- Mac

She also got into it a bit with nutella, and made several rather long posts arguing with her. But then to clarify, she told nutella this:
LoRab wrote:
nutella wrote:I mean, I would be surprised if nobody on the team participated, but let's just take Night 1 -- missed PMs happen, and again, there were enough inactive players at that point that I could see a three-person team missing their night PM. I'm not saying it's necessarily the most likely explanation and I didn't really agree with Glorf when he suggested it, but it's not exactly improbable either and I think you're being pretty harsh on him.

Linki: Fair point, yeah, I guess Epi wouldn't let a team be made up of only inactives (though there might be a couple players who have been inactive this game that he might not have foreseen as such)
You literally asked for posts showing that he had posted about inactives more than once. I responded by posting examples. You aren now saying I am being harsh. I think you are being disingenuous.

I don't suspect you for it (yet), but I also don't see you as being fully fair in your assessment.

And, sure, disagree with me. But enough with the subtle not quite accusing me but sort of saying you think I'm bad. If you think I'm bad. Say so. If you don't, quit with the quasi-accusations. Either way, I'm civ. But I'm not sure what your'e trying to get at with this whole line of whatever.
So, since she doesn't fully suspect nutella, I'm not sure if nutella falls into the "civ LoRab suspects" category just yet, but their back and forth wasn't warm and fuzzy, so I'm less convinced of a teammate relationship there right now.



LoRab also made a pretty detailed post talking about the inner workings of the baddie NK here

This all makes LoRab look pretty bad to me, and makes Mac look pretty good. Still leaves nutella a "maybe" in my book, but it's a better look than what I thought after just having read MM and Wilgy. I think LoRab's a good vote option today for me.
by indiglo
Thu Sep 22, 2016 3:13 pm
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 12]

Ok, Yellow Team read completed. :noble:

The only player that MP and Daisy both mentioned was Boomslang. Of course, Daisy didn't have very many posts, and MP talked about a TON of players. Most of what I got out of MP's posts were players I'm pretty sure aren't his teammates. But Boomslang was mentioned by both of them.

Here's what they both said about him:

From Day 4
Spacedaisy wrote:Well, I took time to read Boomslang before I leave and I get a civ vibe there. I would even venture so far to say I trust him atm.
From Day 1
MovingPictures07 wrote:I would be willing to throw out the following slight town GTHs:

Boomslang
Dragon D. Luffy
JaggedJimmyJay
Quin
Turnip Head


Could change at the drop of a hat, but so far I'm feeling OK at what they've brought to this thread so far. Anybody else have some GTHs yet?
This Day 1 post has been snipped for space, read the whole thing here
MovingPictures07 wrote:
I'll elaborate briefly upon my slight green reads before I leave for a while, as I was intending to do. I figured someone would just ask me for elaboration and that folks would try to fucking contribute to the discussion instead of jumping on my case, but I should have known better.

Boomslang can be a quiet guy in the thread. I like his activity and engagement so far, and his post here and here regarding the mechanics discussion demonstrated to me that he was willing to engage in the topic, was critically evaluating it, and was willing to throw out his more unconventional thoughts on the matter despite a potential backlash (Linki: seems JJJ and I are on a similar page here). My gut tells me, based on my experience with Boomslang for years RL and in mafia, that if he were bad he may have refrained from posting some of these posts.

....

Now please note that I said all of these are SLIGHT town and they are all tentative. I wanted to get discussion going. If you disagree with any of my reads, it'd be nice if you could engage me and the thread in why you do and not just that you do.

Day 2
MovingPictures07 wrote:Boomslang, nice catch with Jan. Jan's a new player to me and the site, so I've been probably not giving full attention and scrutiny there when reading posts in a hurry, but I should be. I'd say Jan's behavior at least strikes as illogical, but I'm not ready to proclaim it as the most suspicious thing going on right now. A lot of players are acting illogically or in a gimmicky fashion; some of them are getting attention for it (Dom + MM) and others aren't. Not entirely sure why that is.

From Day 3, also snipped for space, full post here
MovingPictures07 wrote: Checking the poll, I see Boomslang has a vote already. I haven't read any posts but I want to make it clear that Boomslang is one of my TOP civilian reads. I don't have a real opinion of Nerolunar. So I don't want to vote either of them.

...

Dom is also one of my TOP civilian reads. Russ is a civilian read. Not voting them either.

...

I'm voting timmer (again) for reasons previously stated, and I suppose I'll throw a second one on Dunny because I want to call attention to him over the 'main' wagons of yesterday (as I stated during Day 2, again, find my previous posts for elaboration).
.

From Day 4
MovingPictures07 wrote:I've had other things to say to people too that I just haven't had the chance to say due to it being Night yesterday and due to being busy. Sorry for forgetting to address this stuff. Rico, I think Boomslang is civilian largely due to gut/tone reads but I'm liking his activity, I also agreed with JJJ's assessment of Boomslang's mechanics proposal, and in his subsequent behavior I've seen genuine attempts to solve the game.

I'll throw up a rainbow at some point, but I shouldn't even be here right now, so I'm leaving again.


I will go look at Boomslang's posts now. I welcome thoughts/comments/etc. on this stuff.
by indiglo
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 12]

Also, just realized that INH was a Nanman, so my read on that team was not yet complete! :puppy:

He was obsessed with both Sorsha and TheCapsFan - Sorsha has since been NKed by the Nan, and CapsFan lost a duel day 6 and was a civ warrior.

He went back and forth a lot with JJJ and Glorf, with a twist of Golden - all of which were NKed by Nan.

On Day 6 (the last day INH was active) he also called out and voted for BWT due to absenteeism.

He quoted Scotty and Quin a fair bit, but I see no pattern to it to indicate anything to me about Quin's alignment.


Not a lot to be gleaned there, as far as I can tell. Too bad.


I must log off for a bit and do things. I will plan to be back before EoD. As it stands right now, I will likely be voting LoRab, while also considering Boomslang. (I do want to read Boomslang first though, because I haven't gotten to that yet, and it's more of a shot in the dark than my LoRab suspicion.) I welcome feedback on all this junk.
by indiglo
Thu Sep 22, 2016 8:13 pm
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 12]

Quin wrote: I don't expect you to defend yourself against my read on sig. Just keep doing what you're doing, because I like it :srsnod:
Possible responses, please pick one:

A. Much obliged. Image

B. Not the first time I've heard that, if you know what I mean. Image

C. That's what she said.

D. None of the above.

E. All of the above.
by indiglo
Thu Sep 22, 2016 8:16 pm
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 12]

Ok, here and working on catching up before I do a Boom read, and maybe a Dom read, since I've seen his name mentioned.

Quick question though,

How come we are having so many people pop on, not talk about who they're voting for, and just vote and run away again with no discussion? That is not good my friends. Working together is all we've got. Now I don't expect a dissertation here, but at least a few words, and a few moments consideration before just splattering the poll with a mish mash of votes. It looks like it's been sprayed with machine gun fire!

But I do approve of the LoRab votes. :noble:
by indiglo
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 12]

Boomslang thoughts...

Couple of his posts that stood out:
Boomslang wrote:Whoa. INH's banner is clearly the best argument anyone has yet made; it's even got an exclamation point! Voting him, as well as MM because he called me out to play this game in the first place :P
Voted both INH and MM as prefect (I believe that's what that was all about) - both were NanMen. But here's the thing, I was suspecting Boom of being Yellow, not Nan. So either he's Nan and I'm crazy, he's Yellow and I'm crazy, or he's neither Nan nor Yellow, and I'm crazy.


Boomslang wrote:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:
Boomslang wrote:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Honestly picking 2 suspected baddies seems like it has a way higher probability of working.
I agree, but that's assuming we have two really good baddie reads on any given night. If we pick a known or highly suspected civ at random, we have a 75% chance of getting a warrior, which puts us in pretty good odds for a fight.
And thats assuming our civilian read is right too.

So you are counting on the read being right, the civilian being a warrior, and the dice liking you. Are you sure those odds are that good?

While if you vote for two baddie suspects, you are diminishing the effects of the duel while focusing on one variable: the quality of your reads. If they are good, you have better odds of lynching a baddie.

I don't think that can be calculated, but I think the later sounds more likely to work.
Yes, but civilian reads are more likely to be right. So if we get that factor correct, then we only need to pick one baddie, the most high-quality baddie we have. We don't need to go scraping for evidence for a second suspect every time.
Then there's this. I do believe civ reads are more likely to be right if you are a baddie, because you know who isn't on your team. When you're civ I don't believe civ reads are more likely to be right personally. However this could simply be a difference of mafia philosophy and not a big "I'm a baddie" sign.

After that, I'm just not sold on him being a baddie. Has anyone presented a case on him yet that I haven't read yet?
by indiglo
Thu Sep 22, 2016 8:51 pm
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 12]

Matahari wrote:Impressive work Indiglo, you are very fast at this. My time away from mafia has made me entirely too trusting.

Your case tying Lorab and Nutella as possible flip sides of MM's coin was good. I read their polite disagreement as just that, and totally forgot that disagreements can be staged. And that voting for your own teammate is sometimes done by mafia, so I could go with a Lorab/Nutella vote. I also think its funny how Nijuu shows up to vote and respond to being mentioned, but not much else. I have been a bit suspicious of Boomslang, for not really contributing much either, but I'm also aware that I used to always suspect him, so I tend to doubt my reactions there.

There have been suspicions of Scotty (from Golden), of Sloonei, Mac, and Quin, but I will study on them later. Today I'll try to decide who, of Nutella, Nijuu, or Boom, to vote with Lorab, and be back in awhile to vote.
Thanks for the compliment, however a few caveats to remember.

1 - I'm looking back at things with the benefit of information that wasn't available at the time.
2 - I could be completely wrong.

:biggrin:


I'm currently reading Dom, but wanted to get my boomslang thoughts out there before I lost them in a sea of Trump quotes. :P
by indiglo
Thu Sep 22, 2016 9:17 pm
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 0]

Finished my Dom read.

#1 - I want to kiss you, because that was the funniest read I've ever done in the history of mafia playing. It was UUUUuuuuuuge!

#2 - Hold on, still laughing...

# 3 - This post from Wilgy make me think Dom is NOT a Nan type of Man...
Dom wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:
Dom wrote:
Golden wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:
Golden wrote:Jay, why did you vote for yourself?
Because he skipped the rules section on page one. Lol
The rules say that self-voting is permitted, but it doesn't seem like a very Jay thing to do to give himself a potential reward.
Little Jay has to get a grip!
Hi Dom. U bad again?

Me? Bad? I'm the greatest there ever was.

Scotty is the single greatest threat to this website! He's an actor! He lies!

# 4 - Here and here we see MP softly or openly (depends on how you interpret it) defending Dom. This fits in with what I saw in a lot of MP's posts - talking about a crap ton of players, and trying to buddy up to his perceived civs. Feels like that's what's happening here with Dom.


# 5 - To me, all that indicates that the most likely baddie team for Dom to be on is the Yellows. But with their non-existant NKs, and since Dom has at least been around regularly, it just doesn't fit that well. (Plus, we all know that The Dom is a very, very orange man. Not Yellow, orange.)


# 6 - Now we see that MP's defending of Dom doesn't swing both ways, because here Dom calls MP out for volunteering to duel:
Dom wrote:Folks, I am a busy man and some things got in the way. I am here now to kick some @$$.
MacDougall wrote:
nutella wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
nutella wrote:Damn. Sorry Timmer and RIP Rico.

I am inclined to go after Sorsha and TH today especially considering Eloh's implication. Russ is still up there for me as well.
This feels a bit fake to me.
Why?
I dunno, just does. Is it?

Hey Dom, do you still have concerns about DFaraday?
DFaraday is the lowest of the low. Get him out!
MovingPictures07 wrote:
But go ahead though, DDL, vote for me. I want to duel anyway. :beer:
I am getting nervous here, people. People have written that those who want to duel are a bit strange in their intentions and dismissive and just not trustworthy.

# 7 - Dom calls out Boomslang for using the exact same phrasing as nutella when responding to another player's accusation (post snipped for space, read the whole thing here)
Dom wrote: ...
nutella wrote:Also, lack of precedence does not mean lack of probability. There's probably a fancy logical fallacy term for that but idgaf. Just because you've never seen an inactive mafia team before doesn't mean it couldn't happen, especially considering the Yellow Turban team only consists of three players, and this game has WAY more than three inactive players. They only killed once, and it was on SVS, an inactive player -- perhaps if nobody in the team had been paying attention they wouldn't know SVS hadn't been participating and just picked her to get rid of. Idk, I just think Glorfindel's lines of thinking are not entirely unreasonable :shrug:
You are not wrong in that.

However, I find the probability to be very low. Hostin' Epi does not randomize roles. He cherry picks roles-- or has int he past. I doubt he'd put all people he suspects might be no-shows as his baddie teams. And he didn't. MM and Wilgy are not no-shows.

So your ignoring the facts is troublesome. Very troublesome. We need a better leader than that.

...
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:
Glorfindel wrote:Just another observation here...

As I understand it, part of the case that brought MM undone was his inconsistency in voting for Dr Wilgy for Prefect on Day 0 and then voted to have him duel on Day 1 - is that correct? I note that another player did a similar thing in that Boomslang voted MM for Prefect on Day 0 and then voted him for the dueling ring on Day 1.

The vote for MM's prefecture was mid-poll (i.e. 39th out of 62) so it wasn't really influential and it was MM's only vote for Prefect. I'm not sure what this says but personally, I didn't vote anyone for Prefect about whom I had doubts :shrug:
You weren't the first to notice it:

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 59#p296459
This makes me reconsider my stance on boomslang.
Boomslang wrote:
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:
Boomslang wrote:
Glorfindel wrote:Just another observation here...

As I understand it, part of the case that brought MM undone was his inconsistency in voting for Dr Wilgy for Prefect on Day 0 and then voted to have him duel on Day 1 - is that correct? I note that another player did a similar thing in that Boomslang voted MM for Prefect on Day 0 and then voted him for the dueling ring on Day 1.

The vote for MM's prefecture was mid-poll (i.e. 39th out of 62) so it wasn't really influential and it was MM's only vote for Prefect. I'm not sure what this says but personally, I didn't vote anyone for Prefect about whom I had doubts :shrug:
Well, if you're not sure what it says, what do you think it says? Or is this one of those baddie "let's plant a seed without actually taking sides and hope it grows into a mighty lynching tree" moves?
Why is it that you always seem to appear only when people mention you?
That is patently untrue, as even a cursory read of my post history would indicate. I just thought Glorf's post was particularly egregious.
As does him using the same phrase as nutella did when she refuted LoRab's claims.

So that makes me want to do a read on nutella. But feel fine atm about Dom, unless there is some big case on him somewhere that I have missed up to now.
by indiglo
Thu Sep 22, 2016 9:36 pm
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 12]

Ack. My brain has turned to mush again doing a Quin/nutella read. I may take a quick break, refresh myself, and then come back before EoD.

I'm ready to vote for LoRab right now, but I'd like to have a second vote ready to go at the same time... you know, so my votes count and everything.


~Linki with Quin. Now that you've given me a direction, I'll look through that before I take my break and refresh. :noble: Yay! Look at us, participating, playing this game together? Ain't it grand?
by indiglo
Thu Sep 22, 2016 9:43 pm
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 12]

Quin wrote:I developed what I think is a strong case for MP and Dom being teammates here, indiglo. What do you think? It's really only a snippet of what I've observed against Dom, so I'd very much like it if you went through my posts.
Spoiler: show
MovingPictures07 wrote:I think, of Dom, MM, and Russ, at least from what I've read thus far, I can most understand why Dom is getting attention, but I don't agree with it. It's the classic "_______ is making assertions and not backing them up or stating them in an obtrusive way, therefore ______ must have sinister intentions" combined with the phenomenon that taking strong stances and/or attracting attention with weird behavior or a posting gimmick also is more likely to have sinister intentions.

I wouldn't call Dom a remotely strong civilian read by any means at this point, but this stuff is pretty weak, guys. Especially with all of the players that are contributing bupkis.


He has a few posts around this time where he's pretty strongly defending Dom. He instigated a CFD on timmer because he didn't like the three main wagons. Dom is the only unknown there and MP could have easily gotten by not opposing the main trains. He says he understands why Dom is getting attention and calls the cases against him weak, which is contradictory imo. I saw teamie potential between Dom and Wilgy/Marmot, but I'm seeing it stronger here.

I definitely see what you're saying here with the defense of Dom by MP. I think that, if we just look at those exchanges, it does look like MP could be defending a teammate. At the same time, when I was ISOing MP, he seemed to be buddying up to a whole bunch of players. He basically just said every active player was civ, and he could see where they're coming from. He even defended a few other players, although I don't recall him ever saying that the other lynches were BS the way he did with Dom.

So I could see his defense of Dom going either way. It could be teammate defending, OR civ buddying. I guess I just don't see it as 100% definitive indication of teammate-ness. How lame. I wish I did see it as definitive. Then I could go ahead and vote and just be done with it!
by indiglo
Thu Sep 22, 2016 9:50 pm
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 12]

You are correct. I was just looking at MP's green list, and you're right, Dom's not on it. And MP had quoted and responded to Dom in the thread already, so he was more than aware Dom was playing.
by indiglo
Thu Sep 22, 2016 10:19 pm
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 12]

Ok, I voted:

LoRab and Zou Ci


I think LoRab is bad, and I'm just not confident enough which, if any, of the other leading vote takers are bad. So, I voted Zou Ci in case that triggers something awesome and cool, not because I want Zou Ci gone. And because I don't think he's in danger of taking other votes. But what if he gets something for receiving a vote?

Eep, what if his role says he implodes if he even gets 1 vote? I didn't think of that before I voted for him. :puppy:

I couldn't stop over analyzing, and I really need to get going with my evening and log off. I will say this - this is the first time I've played a game where the thread closes at night, and I actually really, really like it. It's such a nice break after over thinking everything for 48 hours.
by indiglo
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 13]

Firstly, I had a rather hearty laugh at myself for being so sure LoRab was Nan. Sincerest apologies on that to LoRab and all the other civ players. And you're welcome baddies. :fist:

Secondly, I find nutella to be a rather odd NK choice, as she was garnering at least some mild discussion, and I was genuinely going to look there next day phase due to being dead wrong about LoRab.

All that being said, I am really not entirely sure where to look next, after being so very sure and so very wrong at the same time.
by indiglo
Sat Sep 24, 2016 12:48 am
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 13]

Matahari wrote:well. I really expected the nanman to take out Indiglo, and for the same reason, it seems they would have taken scotty out by now. Active, engaged players pose more of a threat than quiet ones, although Nutella was active and engaged, but recently has not been building cases. Very odd choice.
I am not terribly concerned about being NKed atm. Hence why I let 'er rip yesterday, even if I was wrong. :scared:
by indiglo
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 13]

@ Scotty - I am in the same place regarding who to go after. I am ready to try to look again for some type of connection, but likely will be a bit less confident in my suspicions. :grin: I do think Nans are currently a bigger threat, but I'd settle for a good duel period. Any baddie is better than another civ. I shan't be terribly particular in that!

Do you feel that looking into any of the Simon voters would yield us anything? I found him to be quite an odd vote choice, even after (or maybe especially after) reading his ISO. That's something I'll be open to looking into this day phase too.

And agreed with the Jan/Aragorn business.
by indiglo
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 13]

Scotty wrote:
indiglo wrote:
Matahari wrote:well. I really expected the nanman to take out Indiglo, and for the same reason, it seems they would have taken scotty out by now. Active, engaged players pose more of a threat than quiet ones, although Nutella was active and engaged, but recently has not been building cases. Very odd choice.
I am not terribly concerned about being NKed atm. Hence why I let 'er rip yesterday, even if I was wrong. :scared:
You wanna know what's funny?

I thought from your entrance and effort put forth that you are a prime candidate for the leader dude that takes over for the YT kill.

Is that also why you're not scared to be NK'd? :grin:
No. That is not why.
by indiglo
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 13]

MacDougall wrote:I don't think he needs to be trying to lead us astray to be nefarious. He can be genuinely scum hunting.

I think that you are probably right about who he is but I don't think that makes him the same guy he was before. What if he is the 'apparition' that YT dude summons? YT did have a smaller team tha Nanman. Perhaps this is the balancing mechanic. Summon an aparition sock that a dead player controls. Joins your team but can't perform kills?

The guy who inherits the YT kill is still alive. So that means most likely there is a YT alive. That means it is either one of the absentees or something else. Zuo Ci is a big something else.
I like this! Makes good sense.
by indiglo
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 13]

Looking at Yellows, the dude who summons apparitions is Zhang Bao. I am not at home right now, so I don't have my note paper with me, but I'm pretty sure Zhang Bao was already killed. (Because if memory serves both Yellow strategists are gone - MP and Daisy) So, if Zou Ci is the apparition that Bao summons, he can't be under Bao's control, right? Plus, if I'm understanding this correctly, you guys voted (without really knowing it) for who would become Zou Ci. If it were really Bao's apparition, wouldn't he be the one summoning who he wanted? I don't know, maybe I'm overthinking again. Plus all Yellows have *Secrets*.


@ Scotty, do you agree with Quin that Dom looks good to be a Yellow? (Due to the MP connections? MP defending him, but not including him in green in his Rainbow List?)


~Linki - or what Zou Ci said. :grin:
by indiglo
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 13]

Scotty wrote:Mac is squirming like an arsonist at a match factory, and I think Ci has made a name for himself. I think that this is a gift, and JJJ has been gifted a voice from beyond the grave. I could see either he or Boom as Nanman teammates. I also think one of Bullz and leetic is YT, so I'd be willing to vote there as well.

I will probably vote a combo like our kindred spirit has proposed- one of Mac/boom and one of Bullz/leetic to hit two birds with one shouken.
That's where I'm at too. It isn't (automatically) about what Zou posted regarding Mac, but also in Mac's responses to what Zou has posted.

I would feel more comfortable going Mac/Boom, but since the LoRab incident I am happy to go with what the majority of my civ reads feel. :P

But I do vote for not spreading our votes so much. Let's try to keep it half way organized here if we can, yeah?
by indiglo
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 13]

Ok, also voted: Mac and Bullz. Solidarity! (And as I often am wont to say - nothing personal to either of you!)


I do have some reservations about Bass, as well, Aragorn, but for different reasons.


~Linki with DF
by indiglo
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 13]

Zuo Ci wrote:I am swept into the avalanche.
Don't forget to move your arms in a swimming motion. I've always read that about avalanches. Move like you're swimming, and try to keep your head above the snow.

Also, pray to whatever it is you pray to for a St. Bernard with a little flask of brandy.

This is the wisdom I impart to you, figureless apparition from beyond the grave.

:nicenod:
by indiglo
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 14]

RIP Bullz and (possibly) Dom


I think today is a good day to vote for Mac again. He outed himself as a baddie (imo) with his responses to all the votes yesterday. "You are all bad", "Legacy reads: everyone is bad"... um... yeah. :haha: So, Mac is a baddie, and 1 of my votes will go there. No question or doubt about it. And I will continue voting there until he is dead.

For my other vote today, I am leaning very strongly towards voting for Bass. I have some reservations about him anyway, and I think he stands a good chance of beating Mac. I also don't think we'd be losing much if Bass were to lose to Mac. I am happy to expand on this if needed/desired. But I wanted to get my thoughts out since Day just started, and I'm not sure how much longer I'll be up.

My second vote is a bit flexible, though it will still take something fairly solid to shake me there.
by indiglo
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 14]

DFaraday wrote:I could be way off base, but I'm getting the impression that Mac is Lu Bu. The non-Mafia aligned comment, how he put forth a theory on Lu Bu (and people do like to talk about their own roles), plus the fact that he beat a warrior yesterday and is confident about dueling again. If that's the case, I wouldn't be opposed to voting that way again.

On a side note, assuming there were no voting shenanigans yesterday, nobody who voted Bullz can be Wu.
I'm pretty sure Mac is Nan. We should still vote there, and simply ignore his protestations (as Zou put it).

On the side note, I looked into that possibility as well. There was no other 2nd place contender close enough to make a call about who is Wu that voted Bullz. Bullz had 8 votes total, and the next closest opponent was Ninja/Blooper with only 2 votes. So, some of those 8 could definitely have been Wu. But I like where your mind is at. :noble:
by indiglo
Tue Sep 27, 2016 11:51 am
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 14]

PS - Also, Mac did not beat a Warrior yesterday. Bullz was a "Leader" class. (I just double checked my notes.) They are between Warriors and Strategists in dueling prowess. :nicenod:
by indiglo
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Re: Romance of the Three Kingdoms [Day 14]

Zuo Ci wrote:This spirit will not vote for the clever fish. Nor will I vote for the one who strides. This is certain.

MacDougall and leetic shall be destroyed. I will listen to your protestations now.

Any reason in particular you want to go for leetic over Bass?

Also, who is "the one who strides"? (Sorry if I'm being dense.)
by indiglo
Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:26 pm
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DFaraday wrote:
indiglo wrote:
DFaraday wrote:I could be way off base, but I'm getting the impression that Mac is Lu Bu. The non-Mafia aligned comment, how he put forth a theory on Lu Bu (and people do like to talk about their own roles), plus the fact that he beat a warrior yesterday and is confident about dueling again. If that's the case, I wouldn't be opposed to voting that way again.

On a side note, assuming there were no voting shenanigans yesterday, nobody who voted Bullz can be Wu.
I'm pretty sure Mac is Nan. We should still vote there, and simply ignore his protestations (as Zou put it).

On the side note, I looked into that possibility as well. There was no other 2nd place contender close enough to make a call about who is Wu that voted Bullz. Bullz had 8 votes total, and the next closest opponent was Ninja/Blooper with only 2 votes. So, some of those 8 could definitely have been Wu. But I like where your mind is at. :noble:
I'm dumb. For some reason I was thinking of it as a tie situation in the lynch, which is weird because this game has been going for so long. Forget my comment about the Wu then. And forget my comment about Bullz being a Warrior, I don't know where my head was at when I was posting earlier. :noble:

I assume the one who strides is Aragorn, otherwise known as Strider.
Ah, thank you for the clarification on Aragorn. This is my first time meeting him, so I don't yet know his other monikers. That's how I found out who Blooper was in a game. You crazy kids and your crazy nicknames. :beer:
by indiglo
Tue Sep 27, 2016 9:35 pm
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MacDougall wrote:Sorry guys I'm just not up for this game at all. I'm having some serious personal issues right now. I'll keep playing on but I can't really work up the energy to do much.
Sorry to hear that Mac! And no worries! Hope things get better for you, sometimes life just likes to see how much you can take, I think. :bighug:
by indiglo
Tue Sep 27, 2016 9:41 pm
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I don't particularly see the leetic/yellow connection either. I'm happy to do a read there though, and get more input from others too.

@Zou - I have a couple of questions, only answer if you can. Do you have win conditions? Are they the same win conditions you had when you were alive?

I ask because I am developing a theory about Bass's role. I feel like it wouldn't hurt civs to have Bass gone, but I also feel like he isn't our biggest adversary. And I'm wondering if Zou is perhaps related to him in some way. In which case, I have no objection to working together to oust the baddies.

Tin foil hats, anyone? :grin:
by indiglo
Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:48 pm
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:haha: @ Quin :goofp:


Fair enough, my spirit brother. I feel no nefarious intent from you, and I appreciate your thoughts regarding leetic. I remember Scotty (I think?) pointing him out as a good option last day phase as well. Speaking of which... I wonder if Scotty is busy, or silenced again.
by indiglo
Wed Sep 28, 2016 11:46 am
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I've got a busy day today, and will likely not be around for EoD. I am going to go ahead and start off the voting.

I'm voting Mac and Leetic.

Quin, I am happy to vote leetic with you and Zou, I hope you will chose to also vote Mac with us. I do think it is important at this point in the game to try to stick together the best we can. :beer:
by indiglo
Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:54 pm
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Just your friendly, neighborhood cheerleader, checking in one last time! :fiesta:

Solidarity and crossed fingers will help us through this lynch! :workit:
by indiglo
Wed Sep 28, 2016 11:22 pm
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Ooh look, I made it, but it's still good I already voted. Cuz I think the poll is closed.

@ DF - I am getting civ vibes off both Simon and Aragorn, fwiw. But I agree, it would be pretty dumb for someone to sub in for a Yellow at this point and start sending in kills. That's one reason I think Epi will leave that slot alone, with no replacement. JMO though, I have nothing to back that up.


If Mac beats leetic, I hope leetic is another baddie. Fingers crossed!

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