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by Quin
Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:02 pm
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 0]

aye i be here you darn scallywags
by Quin
Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:01 pm
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 0]

Elohcin wrote:
Scotty wrote:Yeah I confused. Where does Monkey come into this?

Will check my role in a bit
So what...you just happened upon the Day 0 thread and haven't looked at your PM? Weird.
Why did you call out Scotty for not checking his role card, but not Wilgy?
by Quin
Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:18 pm
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Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 0]

MovingPictures07 wrote:Sup Quin?
S'anything that isn't down.
by Quin
Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:53 pm
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 0]

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Clearly the humor imbued by my joke is still sinking in.
haha bread lmao haha :omg: :omg: :haha: :haha:
by Quin
Tue Nov 15, 2016 11:59 pm
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 0]

Nachomamma8 wrote:Wiley please check your role PM, if you don't follow the plan I outlined in the QT we are bussing you to kingdom come
:haha:
by Quin
Thu Nov 17, 2016 1:56 am
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 1]

I self-voted for the sake of figuring out whether they're changeable or not. Votes are not changeable.
by Quin
Thu Nov 17, 2016 2:09 am
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 1]

And I'm not sure if 'self-targeting' includes 'self-voting' but if it does, rip Quin.
by Quin
Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:07 am
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 1]

MacDougall wrote:Quin we live in the same city and I had no idea. Let's hang.
Neither did I :grin:

I don't actually live in Brisbane, I just put it here because it's recognisable to everyone else :P
by Quin
Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:09 am
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Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 1]

MacDougall wrote:Haha thanks.

Epignosis is bad. Discuss.
He's 90 percent fluff at this point. I can't shape a read out of it yet. It's at least interesting from a meta standpoint, though.
by Quin
Thu Nov 17, 2016 7:32 pm
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Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 1]

Nachomamma8 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Nachomamma8 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Looking back over earlier d0-d1 material and I'm really not finding anything but inconclusive fluff. There's just nothing here.
Mostly. I feel comfortable enough with townreads on you/Mac/Quin, which, if they are correct, gives me a 41% chance of hitting a baddie if I throw drunk darts at the rest of the playerlist. I'm pretty good at drunk darts.
:ponder:

Yay math!

I can dig the town read on Quin as well. I think I need to see just a bit more from him though; hopefully he can provide more thoughts soon. I also need to see his mafia game. He's a ridiculously solid townie, but I'm not sure I've ever seen him as mafia, which scares me.
The thing that I like about Quin is the self-vote; not sure he'd do it as mafia when there's a chance he locks down on his vote on himself the entire day and makes himself that much easier to lynch. As town, he's not really expecting to get lynched at all and he doesn't want to fuck over a townie accidentally, so it makes more sense.
I thought about none of this when I placed my vote. :sigh:

@MP, give me until Mad Max ends, then I can double down on this game. :srsnod:

I don't know who I'd vote for. I haven't read as much as I'd have liked. I did get dem good vibes from Eloh before. Her calling out Scotty and not Wilgy was probably a genuine mistake. It seems like a half-assed baddie strategy, at least.
by Quin
Thu Nov 17, 2016 7:37 pm
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Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 1]

Nachomamma8 wrote:
Quin wrote:
Nachomamma8 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Nachomamma8 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Looking back over earlier d0-d1 material and I'm really not finding anything but inconclusive fluff. There's just nothing here.
Mostly. I feel comfortable enough with townreads on you/Mac/Quin, which, if they are correct, gives me a 41% chance of hitting a baddie if I throw drunk darts at the rest of the playerlist. I'm pretty good at drunk darts.
:ponder:

Yay math!

I can dig the town read on Quin as well. I think I need to see just a bit more from him though; hopefully he can provide more thoughts soon. I also need to see his mafia game. He's a ridiculously solid townie, but I'm not sure I've ever seen him as mafia, which scares me.
The thing that I like about Quin is the self-vote; not sure he'd do it as mafia when there's a chance he locks down on his vote on himself the entire day and makes himself that much easier to lynch. As town, he's not really expecting to get lynched at all and he doesn't want to fuck over a townie accidentally, so it makes more sense.
I thought about none of this when I placed my vote. :sigh:

@MP, give me until Mad Max ends, then I can double down on this game. :srsnod:

I don't know who I'd vote for. I haven't read as much as I'd have liked. I did get dem good vibes from Eloh before. Her calling out Scotty and not Wilgy was probably a genuine mistake. It seems like a half-assed baddie strategy, at least.
I wouldn't expect you to put much thought into it as town, but I think it'd be a bigger deal if you were scum.
Do you disagree?
It depends on the person. For me, I generally put thought into everything I do, whether I be good or bad. This was an exception; I just wanted to clear up an important question.
by Quin
Thu Nov 17, 2016 7:42 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 1]

Nachomamma8 wrote:If you were just trying to clear up a question, why not ask the moderator? Why not reread the rules?
The rules don't (unless they've since been added) mention whether votes were or were not changeable. Mac asked the same thing and llama said:
thellama73 wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Are votes changeable or not?
Why not vote and find out?
by Quin
Thu Nov 17, 2016 8:01 pm
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Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 0]

Nachomamma8 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:I got a role from another game. Do you think llama messed up?
So what happened? Did he?
I don't think he did. I did roll-claim earlier, so I'll just let you guys decide.
WTF?

Ok i'll have to read back tomorrow.
no he posted a picture of a roll
he "roll claimed" as in claimed to be a roll
you're shitting me

was this the punchline all along, marmot? :shrug2:
by Quin
Thu Nov 17, 2016 8:12 pm
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Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 1]

Nachomamma8 wrote:At this point I also feel obligated to apologize for how frequently I post, have tried to artificially reduce the number of times I post in the past but I find playing unnaturally kills the quality of my play and I'd rather not do that in my first game on this site (and am generally not convinced that my megawalls are any easier to parse than my large # of posts). If I'm annoying you or ruining your experience, don't be afraid to tell me!
This is not a thing you need to apologise for. JaggedJimmyJay would sweep the floor with you in post frequency. :p
by Quin
Thu Nov 17, 2016 11:43 pm
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Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
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Views: 47170

Re: Monkey Island [DAY 1]

I was just being nice :sigh:
by Quin
Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:36 pm
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Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
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Views: 47170

Re: Monkey Island [NIGHT 1]

Mad Max is likely to end today so once that's over I'll properly catch up and probably dish out some kind of bullshit idk. It's not an ideal justification for being lazy, but in all honesty that game's left me all burnt out.

Long Con asked me who I'd have voted - I would answer Soneji. I'll see if I can back that read up later but his argument against my self-vote gives me dem baddie vibes.
by Quin
Sat Nov 19, 2016 1:02 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
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Views: 47170

Re: Monkey Island [NIGHT 1]

Catching up will be tonight's job, I've just been working in the garden for the past 2 hours. Forgive me one last time :grin:
by Quin
Sat Nov 19, 2016 6:21 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
Replies: 2181
Views: 47170

Re: Monkey Island [DAY 1]

Nachomamma8 wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Haha thanks.

Epignosis is bad. Discuss.
Also a slight townlean for getting the game going, although I'm not sure where this scumlean in particular is coming from.
Quin wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Haha thanks.

Epignosis is bad. Discuss.
He's 90 percent fluff at this point. I can't shape a read out of it yet. It's at least interesting from a meta standpoint, though.
Is being this fluffy out of character for him? Do you think that his fluffiness stands out when a majority of players have that same 90 - 10 fluff-nonfluff ratio?
MacDougall wrote:I am turning 30 in under 3 hours.
Congratulations!!!
Long Con wrote:*emerges from the birth canal*

Maybe it's time for me to do some role analysis and then get some votes for it for being "overly helpful".
I liked this post too!!! Don't really have a reason for why and won't pretend like I do, just like how the line talking about how he's going to get voted for his approach sounds; probably good for along the same lines as Metal's "I promised I wouldn't get lynched D1" post.
MovingPictures07 wrote:Hey Mac, it's clear we are both civilian this game so let's team up. :nicenod:
Why are you reading Mac civillian?
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Boomslang wrote:Today has been very quiet so far... Not much to go on other than Vomps asking for volunteers. Which is asking people to do the civs' work for them, but in Day 1, I suppose it's just an opening gambit.
Take your hands off your ears, and maybe you'll hear all the things people have to say.

All the things.
Unless this is a joke I'm not picking up on, it seems like you're implying there's more to pick up on that Boomslang is missing; why not comment on any of it?
MovingPictures07 wrote:Just a little over 24 hours remaining and we've had hardly any on-topic discussion. Let's change that.

Mac, tell me why Epi is bad.
LC, what did you gain from your role analysis?
Everyone else, do you have any thoughts on anyone's alignment so far for even weak reasons/pings? If so, what are they?
Why did it take you so long to get the ball rolling?
It might have been a poor character judgment considering the whole "we've never played together" thing, but I sort of expected you to be an active driving force before this point. I like that you're questioning people for small pings, but why haven't you talked about yours? Why haven't you talked about your Mac civilian read yet?
Snow Dog wrote:Is it possible to earn gold?
Not unless Santa Claus gives you a shovel.
@ Your address of me - I think so. Epi usually comes across in games as more to the point and serious. I checked a few of his town games and he tends to get right into things. I didn't check his bad games, because I'm a lazy shit. That's not to say that he never posts fluff, but at the time his posts weren't what I was used to.
by Quin
Sat Nov 19, 2016 6:26 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
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Views: 47170

Re: Monkey Island [DAY 1]

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Nachomamma8 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Looking back over earlier d0-d1 material and I'm really not finding anything but inconclusive fluff. There's just nothing here.
Mostly. I feel comfortable enough with townreads on you/Mac/Quin, which, if they are correct, gives me a 41% chance of hitting a baddie if I throw drunk darts at the rest of the playerlist. I'm pretty good at drunk darts.
:ponder:

Yay math!

I can dig the town read on Quin as well. I think I need to see just a bit more from him though; hopefully he can provide more thoughts soon. I also need to see his mafia game. He's a ridiculously solid townie, but I'm not sure I've ever seen him as mafia, which scares me.
Do I still scare you? :shifty:
by Quin
Sat Nov 19, 2016 6:39 am
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Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
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Views: 47170

Re: Monkey Island [NIGHT 1]

Nacho has too many posts for me to reference any specific one, but my biggest observation is this:

He reminds me of me, in that he's constantly trying to continue a dialogue with whoever he's talking to. He's showing a genuine thought process, he's not shying away from any conflicting opinions and he's spearheading his own case. Townie points for this guy.
by Quin
Sat Nov 19, 2016 6:44 am
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Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
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Views: 47170

Re: Monkey Island [DAY 1]

Soneji wrote:
Nachomamma8 wrote:
Soneji wrote:@Nacho : You look to rely a lot on an ability to townread and then use PoE, even this early. How much weight do you give to conscious vs unconscious scum moves? I have noticed that you approach people's posts as if you were scum in their shoes and make your read based on if you think they'd consciously post what they did with the proposed scum intent, in my experience this is rare.

Mafia generally don't purposely post as if they are mustache twirling villains even if it comes off that way in someones scumread. Their subconscious guilt is how these slips are made.
I think that most things that mafia post are unconscious, yes, but behind each unconscious post there are typically one of three guiding principles: 1) "I want to survive", 2) "I want to look town", 3) I want to lynch town. So when I say that something seems to lack scum motivation, it's because I don't think that a player would think that it doesn't push towards any one of those goals; when I say that I don't think that Metalmarsh would share his Day 1 goal of not being instantly lynched in thread, I don't think that this would be a conscious decision, I think that it's just something that he would feel uncomfortable doing. My argument for Quin being town isn't that they would sit down and weigh the advantages and disadvantages of self-voting versus not self-voting; it lies more along the lines of thinking that he would put some sort of thought before locking down one of his weapons against town so quickly and no lines of thought really point towards "no, self-vote".

Was there a argument in particular you were referring to when you made this post?
No one argument, you addressed the main two there.

Voting isn't a mafia weapon so much as it is town's. A lot of mafia players view voting as an inconvenience rather than a tool at their disposal and being freed from any pressure to vote is a blessing. Mind you, on the forum I come from I have never played a game where votes weren't changeable, mafia would be even more uncomfortable voting if they couldn't change. That they can't change weakens it's use as a weapon for them as well. The main point in Quin's favor to me is that the host wouldn't state if votes are final, forcing someone to vote to find out. Would have been preferable for him to vote a scumread but as is, hes not high up on potential lynch candidates.

Would you say your suspicion of Long Con stems from a differing view on if chaotic posts like Wilgy's are scummy? I don't see any way to look at Wilgy's post favorably. If he is telling the truth about not looking at his role PM, then he is going against the spirit of the rules and if he did get randomized scum, will not display the subconscious guilt that comes from one knowing they are scum. If he is lying then his motivation can only be to deceive or troll.

[VOTE: ] aubergine
[VOTE:

I'm not sure why I was pinged by this post, but I do disagree with it. Voting is just as much as a mafia weapon as it is civs. Hell, look at my Mad Max game. My voting record was probably half the reason that I all-but secured the win there. I'm not familiar enough with Soneji to actually suspect him for this, but I'm willing to put it down as a conflict of opinion.]
aubergine
by Quin
Sat Nov 19, 2016 6:52 am
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Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 1]

MovingPictures07 wrote:sig, I've provided more reads on players than almost everyone else in the game. If you can't remember my content that's on you, not me.
I suspect sig for this. There's another post later on I'll get to eventually, but I could easily interpret this as a bad sig not even reading the thread, hence 'not remembering' a whole 17 (... :sigh: )meaty posts in a row from MP.
by Quin
Sat Nov 19, 2016 6:55 am
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Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 1]

Epignosis wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Monkey Island -- Day 1 -- MP Rainbow #1

Boomslang
Golden
Long Con
Macdougall
Nachomamma8
Quin
Scotty
Snow Dog


a2thezebra
Black Rock
DFaraday
DrWilgy
Elohcin
Epignosis
Metalmarsh89
motel room
nijuukyugou
sig
Vompatti


Soneji

Pretty early rainbow, hence players are not ranked within groups (note that they are alphabetical), and I only have slight town and slight mafia reads. I'll distinguish between varying strengths of my reads as the need arises.

Note to self: review the thread and find some more mafia reads, dammit.


Transistor Day 1: MP was bad.
Spoiler: show
MovingPictures07 wrote:MP Rainbow List #1

Slight Town:
AllAlongtheBoardwalk
DrumBeats
Elohcin


Null:
a2thezebra
agleaminranks
DFaraday
DrWilgy
Illyria
JaggedJimmyJay
Matt
Nerolunar
nijuukyugou
reywaS
sig
thellama73


Slight Mafia:
nutella

Currently players are NOT ranked within groups by order of suspicion; rather, they are alphabetical.

Too many nulls. Please post more, nulls! So far, reywaS hasn't posted at all, and DFaraday and sig haven't posted yet during Day 1. Did I miss anyone else? Hope to hear from them soon.

I'm town reading AATB due to his contribution to the discussion last night when I pressured him, though I want more. I wasn't sure what to make of DrumBeats but having caught up now I'm seeing his attempts to engage people with this plan as genuinely town-minded, but it's still a slight lean. Elohcin is active and I'm enjoying it; I also am reading her attempts to engage others so far as genuine, and her frustrations displayed a townie mindset. All minor, but they're all worth town reads nonetheless. I think forming town reads, even very slight at this stage, is just as important as identifying mafia leans, perhaps even more so. So I intend on trying to sort through these as the day progresses and hopefully form some more. Please help me out with that, folks! Show me your townie spark.

I don't know what to think of JJJ just yet; I know he's busier right now and in three games so I'll try not to judge him harshly for lack of supatown, but it's inevitable to hold high expectations for him. I've found his light interrogation of me to be a bit peculiar, and I don't really understand where he's coming from at all this game. I'd like to engage with him about this game in real time because we have zero mindmeld going on right now and that's just not right.

I'm OK with Illyria, nijuu, Nero, and Llama's content so far, but it's not enough to make me feel any way about their alignments just yet. I need more.

a2thezebra, DrWilgy, and Matt are all in a similar category to me right now of WTF/???/Null, because they seem to playing outwardly in a way that could be considered anti-town, but I know better about all of them than to believe that such behavior is alignment indicative. I wish zebra would get her head in the game and address some concerns though, and I'd like to see some more from Wilgy and Matt. I don't know what to make of zebra and Matt's votes being cast already, frankly. I could vote for any of these three, maybe, if they fail to contribute anything else during d1 and I don't have any other even remotely confident mafia reads.

I'm really torn on agleaminranks -- I liked his contributions with respect to The Process, and that he was willing to throw out a few town reads (maybe?), but he needs to elaborate there. In contrast, I think it's easy to throw shade on Elo and DB in light of the "proposal", so those two being his only two people he'd consider a vote for at this time concerns me a bit, but to be fair to him he did express pretty limited intention in doing so (in contrast to one other player). I await more posts from him before committing to a read.

That last point brings me to nutella. I think she's brought awesome knowledge with respect to the theme, but with regards to strictly game-related content she was quick to jump on both Elo and DB for DB's proposal, and I see that as potentially convenient. She said there's possible "nefarious" intent in what DB has said; considering he proposes no current plan of action, and understanding his plan as is since he has elaborated, I don't see any such intent. I would like to hear her elucidate this matter; pending her explanation, she could move back up to null. Otherwise, I'm inclined to believe she may be taking advantage of easy targets, particularly due to the relative strong diction of her wording:
nutella wrote:OK, I'm back from graduating!! :D and caught up.

Zebra, I have no idea how you got so confused but it's pretty weird that you voted without even looking at the poll time.

Matt's inexplicable naming of Niju as the Process is perplexing and his refusal to explain it is even more so. Matt tends to be zany but I'm keeping an eye on him for this strange behavior.

I think that Drum's alliance proposition is probably a terrible idea and might have nefarious motivations. The Process is just one role/player, so even with its many powers it probably won't be impossible to get rid of, while the Camerata team is a significant threat and more in number for us to take down. I find Drum quite suspicious for the proposal and I also find Elo suspicious for expressing interest in it and then sort of covering her tracks -- although I believe that she wasn't outright agreeing to the plan in the first place but considering it as an option, but it's still kind of surprising that she jumped on it without acknowledging its suspicious nature.

There's still a whole day but it's looking likely I'll want to vote for either Drum or Elo.


linki @ Drum: huh, I don't really understand, you think the mafia can target specific elements? if they can, will we be told a process element has been eliminated? :shrug2: This all seems pretty speculative, and regardless I largely agree with niju that any degree of alliance/trusting the mafia is too risky especially in such a small game.

Aaaand there's a Cell sock account :eek:
Note the contrast between "might be nefarious" and "quite suspicious" for DB and "suspicious" for Elo. I sense a disconnect.

Furthermore, it appears to me that she suspects Elo for agreeing with a plan that she doesn't agree with, but I think Elo's train of thought regarding the matter is transparent, at least from where I'm sitting, and nutella even recognizes this to some degree but still finds Elo suspect.

Moreover, the most suspicious statement is nutella's propensity to feel OK with a vote for either Elo or DB at this point in the day phase, especially not having discussed any other reads (zebra, Matt, me, anyone else). I need to hear from nutella about this ASAP.
Romance of the Three Kingdoms Day 1: MP was bad.
Spoiler: show
MovingPictures07 wrote:I would be willing to throw out the following slight town GTHs:

Boomslang
Dragon D. Luffy
JaggedJimmyJay
Quin
Turnip Head


Could change at the drop of a hat, but so far I'm feeling OK at what they've brought to this thread so far. Anybody else have some GTHs yet?
Star Wars Day 1: MP was bad.
Spoiler: show
MovingPictures07 wrote:Day 1 MP rainbow reads list:

MacDougall

bcornett24
Golden


a2thezebra
Bass_the_Clever
Black Rock
Canucklehead
Dragon D. Luffy
Elohcin
Metalmarsh89
sig
Simon
Sorsha


Bubbles
DFaraday
Dom
DrWilgy
Glorfindel
Luke11646
Mishimeals
NANANANANANA_BANANA
nijuukyugou
Roxy
TheFloyd73


Matt F
Russtifinko


Enrique

Players are arranged alphabetically within groups.

I forced myself to avoid neutral (yellow) reads, which was pretty tough considering there are too many players with too little content to analyze at this stage.
Protip: MovingPictures07 is always bad in my games.

Arkham Day 2: MP was good.
Spoiler: show
MovingPictures07 wrote:Day 2 MP rainbow list:

Scotty

DharmaHelper
Turnip Head
S~V~S
Enrique
bea


Bass_the_Clever
MacDougall
Typhoony
Dom
Golden
Sorsha
sprityo
a2thezebra


Bullzeye
juliets
sabie12
Glorfindel
Metalmarsh89


Lorab
Black Rock
DFaraday
Bubbles
TheFloyd73
Equivocate
sig
Matt


ekeknat
Nerolunar


Well, here are my crap rainbow reads. Forced myself to evaluate everyone, though many of these are subject to change since they're almost entirely tone/gut-based for the time being. Unfortunately, I don't feel like I have any solid leads. Need to start evaluate voting records and opinions more so and revise going forward.

But now it's bed time, and as I stated earlier, I have a pretty busy weekend ahead of me. I'll see what I can do, as I'd like to (mafia is way more enjoyable than most everything else). Until later, folks. :offtobed:
Watchmen Day 3: MP was good.
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MovingPictures07 wrote:Here are all of the players that I'm currently considering for my vote, from least to most likely:

G-Man
Metalmarsh89


LoRab

Cookie
Dragon D. Luffy


espers
That was after extensive commentary on every person earlier on.

Looking at other hosts now. :p

Rocky & Bullwinkle Day 2: MP was good.
Spoiler: show
MovingPictures07 wrote:Day 2 rainbow list:

Sloonei

a2thezebra

S~V~S
Elohcin
Sorsha


bea
sprityo
sabie12


DrWilgy
nijuukyugou
Scotty


Long Con

indiglo
Epignosis
My impression here is that evil MP makes less nuanced first lists than good MP (Star Wars is the obvious outlier). I haven't found one example of a good MP making a three-colored first list.

His first list here falls into the bad MP tendency.
Mad Max is a perfect example of a civ MP making three-tiered lists.
by Quin
Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:05 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
Replies: 2181
Views: 47170

Re: Monkey Island [NIGHT 1]

Quin wrote:Nacho has too many posts for me to reference any specific one, but my biggest observation is this:

He reminds me of me, in that he's constantly trying to continue a dialogue with whoever he's talking to. He's showing a genuine thought process, he's not shying away from any conflicting opinions and he's spearheading his own case. Townie points for this guy.
In reading, so many people are saying 'Nacho reminds me of x'. Are we sure that Nachomomma isn't some artificial lifeform grown from our DNA or something?
by Quin
Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:07 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
Replies: 2181
Views: 47170

Re: Monkey Island [NIGHT 1]

sig wrote:
Scotty wrote:
sig wrote:This was a very weak reason I'm espacilly eyeing MP and the people who voted for Zebra.

I also find it odd WIlgy missed the vote, if MP does end up being mafia I'd like to look into lynching Wilgy.
Its day 1. What more convincing articles could you have for day 1?

And "the people who voted zebra" are...just me. Can I help you with your eyes?
Snow also voted for Zebra you don't seem to be reading clearly. :eye:

MP didn't mention his vote was self preservation when he did the voting though, that just came up after motel flipped. I'm really being pinged by MP right now.
I also really dislike this post from sig. I feel like the emphasis on this post is being put on the fact that 'MP didn't justify it as self-preservation beforehand' instead of 'I don't believe that MP voted out of self-preservation'. Why did you come to the conclusion you did, sig?
by Quin
Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:27 am
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 1]

Spoiler: show
Quin wrote:
Nachomamma8 wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Haha thanks.

Epignosis is bad. Discuss.
Also a slight townlean for getting the game going, although I'm not sure where this scumlean in particular is coming from.
Quin wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Haha thanks.

Epignosis is bad. Discuss.
He's 90 percent fluff at this point. I can't shape a read out of it yet. It's at least interesting from a meta standpoint, though.
Is being this fluffy out of character for him? Do you think that his fluffiness stands out when a majority of players have that same 90 - 10 fluff-nonfluff ratio?
MacDougall wrote:I am turning 30 in under 3 hours.
Congratulations!!!
Long Con wrote:*emerges from the birth canal*

Maybe it's time for me to do some role analysis and then get some votes for it for being "overly helpful".
I liked this post too!!! Don't really have a reason for why and won't pretend like I do, just like how the line talking about how he's going to get voted for his approach sounds; probably good for along the same lines as Metal's "I promised I wouldn't get lynched D1" post.
MovingPictures07 wrote:Hey Mac, it's clear we are both civilian this game so let's team up. :nicenod:
Why are you reading Mac civillian?
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Boomslang wrote:Today has been very quiet so far... Not much to go on other than Vomps asking for volunteers. Which is asking people to do the civs' work for them, but in Day 1, I suppose it's just an opening gambit.
Take your hands off your ears, and maybe you'll hear all the things people have to say.

All the things.
Unless this is a joke I'm not picking up on, it seems like you're implying there's more to pick up on that Boomslang is missing; why not comment on any of it?
MovingPictures07 wrote:Just a little over 24 hours remaining and we've had hardly any on-topic discussion. Let's change that.

Mac, tell me why Epi is bad.
LC, what did you gain from your role analysis?
Everyone else, do you have any thoughts on anyone's alignment so far for even weak reasons/pings? If so, what are they?
Why did it take you so long to get the ball rolling?
It might have been a poor character judgment considering the whole "we've never played together" thing, but I sort of expected you to be an active driving force before this point. I like that you're questioning people for small pings, but why haven't you talked about yours? Why haven't you talked about your Mac civilian read yet?
Snow Dog wrote:Is it possible to earn gold?
Not unless Santa Claus gives you a shovel.
@ Your address of me - I think so. Epi usually comes across in games as more to the point and serious. I checked a few of his town games and he tends to get right into things. I didn't check his bad games, because I'm a lazy shit. That's not to say that he never posts fluff, but at the time his posts weren't what I was used to.
Looked into this a bit more, by looking at two of Epi's full-game baddie games (Turf Wars and The Office). An observation is that in each he started with off topic fluff posts, stuck his toes in the water with some jokey on-topic posts and then evolved to Epi as we know him after around the fifth post. His posts in this game don't follow that same pattern, but I'm not about to suspect him based on meta.
by Quin
Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:28 am
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Re: Monkey Island [NIGHT 1]

replace 'suspect' at the end with 'clear'.
by Quin
Sat Nov 19, 2016 8:23 am
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 1]

Epignosis wrote:
Quin wrote:Mad Max is a perfect example of a civ MP making three-tiered lists.
It's either an example or it isn't. The word "perfect" is unnecessary in this sentence. Quin is bad. :meany:

Quite right. I don't like commenting on ongoing games, so I didn't even bother to look at that one.
'Perfect' is a perfect word to use in that sentence, because it counters the content of your case... perfectly. :workit:
by Quin
Sat Nov 19, 2016 8:53 am
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 1]

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Quin wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:sig, I've provided more reads on players than almost everyone else in the game. If you can't remember my content that's on you, not me.
I suspect sig for this. There's another post later on I'll get to eventually, but I could easily interpret this as a bad sig not even reading the thread, hence 'not remembering' a whole 17 (... :sigh: )meaty posts in a row from MP.
I would say that if anyone suspecting me right now is mafia, it's most believable to be sig, but I'm a bit hesitant to pursue that train of thought aggressively for multiple reasons:

1) I have not yet had the opportunity to engage directly with sig and he has not yet seen these recent responses of mine, so perhaps he has not had enough information to come to a more informed assessment of me.

2) sig not thoroughly examining the thread, or even reading it, and then making gut-based interpretations of my behavior is just as compatible with a town sig that increasingly is becoming bothered with aspects of my behavior in the game as it is with a mafia sig that is trying to push me as mislynch because everyone on this site knows that I'm a relatively easy mislynch to push. Do you have reason to believe that it is more compatible with the latter explanation? I haven't seen anything compelling personally.

3) Although I do still firmly believe it is on sig that he does not recall my content, his accusation is still potentially legitimate if he believes I am a mafia member manufacturing my suspicions and trying to flood the thread with posts but my substance in those posts is lacking. Now the point I was raised in my quoted post above was that I was contributing more than nearly everyone else, and while that is likely unarguable, mulling over it I think I missed sig's point and that was that he believes, in comparison to his perception of what he believes town MP would be posting, my content is lacking. I did not adequately address that concern.

sig, let me know if you want to engage on any of this.
I don't have enough experience playing with sig in my arsenal to make a call based on his meta. At face value I'd call it suspicious, because I wouldn't associate it with townie behaviour. Emphasising that he tried to suggest that 17 posts, practically all of which contain meat, weren't enough to gain his attention and then putting the blame on you for that is something I suspect.

Can you point me to where your interpretation of his suspicion comes from? I'll get back to it in the morning, I'm going to bed.
by Quin
Sat Nov 19, 2016 8:55 am
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Re: Monkey Island [NIGHT 1]

By interpretation of his suspicion, I'm referring to where you said 'in comparison to his perception of what he believes town MP would be posting, my content is lacking', just in case you were confused.
by Quin
Sat Nov 19, 2016 11:36 pm
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

I want to lynch Epignosis.
by Quin
Sat Nov 19, 2016 11:46 pm
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

Epignosis wrote:
Quin wrote:I want to lynch Epignosis.
Voted for Black Rock.

Your turn.
Nah
by Quin
Sun Nov 20, 2016 4:38 pm
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

sig wrote:I think its just as likely one of the roles stopped the second night kill.

@Quin why Epi
You answered your own question. There's a core difference between this game and RoT3K in that while in that game there weren't any protector roles, in this game there are 3 that may have been responsible for a missed NK. Yet he's pushing the inactive route, likely for an easy mislynch.
by Quin
Sun Nov 20, 2016 4:40 pm
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Re: Monkey Island [NIGHT 1]

Snow Dog wrote:
Quin wrote:Mad Max is likely to end today so once that's over I'll properly catch up and probably dish out some kind of bullshit idk. It's not an ideal justification for being lazy, but in all honesty that game's left me all burnt out.

Long Con asked me who I'd have voted - I would answer Soneji. I'll see if I can back that read up later but his argument against my self-vote gives me dem baddie vibes.
Why baddie vibes? I also had an issue with your self vote. Perhaps I am also on your vote list?
No, because my suspicion was not a NO U. And I've since addressed this point. :nicenod:
by Quin
Sun Nov 20, 2016 4:58 pm
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

Epignosis wrote:
Quin wrote:
sig wrote:I think its just as likely one of the roles stopped the second night kill.

@Quin why Epi
You answered your own question. There's a core difference between this game and RoT3K in that while in that game there weren't any protector roles, in this game there are 3 that may have been responsible for a missed NK.
You didn't know that. A number of my roles had secrets, and on top of that, there were dozens of items that offered special abilities, which were also secret.

You did. You were the host, so you should know better than anyone.
Quin wrote:Yet he's pushing the inactive route, likely for an easy mislynch.
Is that my master plan now? Gun for MP all of Day 1 and then switch it up Day 2 for- your words- "an easy mislynch."

yeh

Pretty rich coming from the guy who voted himself Day 1, preemptively washing his hands of that lynch to find out if votes could be changed or not. :suspish:

I was being helpful :workit:
by Quin
Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:14 pm
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

Boomslang wrote:Didn't post during the night phase because weekend, but RIP Golden. I tend to agree with Epi's line of reasoning about culling inactives, having just been part of the Three Kingdoms debacle. I think sig is way off-base with the following thought:
sig wrote:I think its just as likely one of the roles stopped the second night kill.
There are only three protectors, and one of them would need to successfully target a kill sender with only a single day of gameplay information. If there were eight missing PMs, that's a lot more possibilities for missed kills.
Nobody said anything about the number of PM's that were missing. :eye:
by Quin
Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:15 pm
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

Boomslang wrote:Just realized that eight PMs figure was from Epi and not confirmed for this game. Disregard, but I still think the odds of a baddie being hidden among the inactives are pretty good.

Looking at Golden's content... I don't see any particular reason baddies would see him as a threat. The LC defense is, as sig pointed out, the most notable move, but there's also some positive interaction with Nacho, some suspicion of sig, some pushing of Zebra... I guess what interests me most is that post about Zebra, who chose not to post in real words until today. The timing of Golden's death, followed by Zebra's posting, is very interesting.
I wonder if I believe this.
by Quin
Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:33 pm
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

I believe it. He took the time to elaborate on a different point in the same post, which would have risked him being called out on it before he could correct himself. Not something I'd imagine a baddie doing, at least. Probably not a BTSC slip.
by Quin
Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:34 pm
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

Quin wrote:I believe it. He took the time to elaborate on a different point in the same post, which would have risked him being called out on it before he could correct himself. Not something I'd imagine a baddie doing, at least. Probably not a BTSC slip.
I'm answering my own question, only the dead guy decided to get in my way :meany:
by Quin
Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:43 pm
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

I'll post this here as well just so people are aware of why my activity or level of effort might drop in this game:
Quin wrote:I'm getting one of my wisdom teeth out tomorrow. Originally I was supposed to get both of my bottom teeth out way back when I got the first one out, but I had some issues getting scans done so the dentist postponed getting one of them. So now I get to go through recovery a second time :omg:
My painkillers make me drowsy and between that and the expected repeat of the lack of sleep and pain I went through last time, I probably won't be incredibly motivated for a while :grin:
by Quin
Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:47 pm
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Quin wrote:I'll post this here as well just so people are aware of why my activity or level of effort might drop in this game:
Quin wrote:I'm getting one of my wisdom teeth out tomorrow. Originally I was supposed to get both of my bottom teeth out way back when I got the first one out, but I had some issues getting scans done so the dentist postponed getting one of them. So now I get to go through recovery a second time :omg:
My painkillers make me drowsy and between that and the expected repeat of the lack of sleep and pain I went through last time, I probably won't be incredibly motivated for a while :grin:
Have fun with that! The first three days or so when I got mine out were awful, the rest of the first week was improved but still kinda meh, and after that was much better.
I didn't have much luck the first time :P I couldn't open my mouth for about a week and a half, then it started to get a lot better, then it suddenly got infected and I was out for another week. :disappoint:
by Quin
Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:51 pm
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

I would vote for either sig or Epignosis today, but I'm still interested in hearing more from sig so I'll abstain from actually voting for a bit longer.
by Quin
Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:56 pm
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Quin wrote:I would vote for either sig or Epignosis today, but I'm still interested in hearing more from sig so I'll abstain from actually voting for a bit longer.
Let's talk. Initially I'm feeling kinda better about sig based on his recent contributions, but again, I need to dig through his content in detail. (gonna start that now)

Why those two? Any thoughts on the others?
My reason for suspecting sig kind of lines up with what I've discussed with you, and my Epi suspicion rests on his approach to the 'let's cull the inactives' mindset.

motel room came back in strong, and I already had a civ tone-read on Eloh, so I could shade him as a light green read. Same to you - but I'm perhaps slightly hesitant because of your supposed record involving emotional appeals/outbursts. Nacho is my strongest town read. I like that he's come out swinging from the get-go even though he's in an unfamiliar environment.
by Quin
Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:18 pm
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Quin wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Quin wrote:I would vote for either sig or Epignosis today, but I'm still interested in hearing more from sig so I'll abstain from actually voting for a bit longer.
Let's talk. Initially I'm feeling kinda better about sig based on his recent contributions, but again, I need to dig through his content in detail. (gonna start that now)

Why those two? Any thoughts on the others?
My reason for suspecting sig kind of lines up with what I've discussed with you, and my Epi suspicion rests on his approach to the 'let's cull the inactives' mindset.

motel room came back in strong, and I already had a civ tone-read on Eloh, so I could shade him as a light green read. Same to you - but I'm perhaps slightly hesitant because of your supposed record involving emotional appeals/outbursts. Nacho is my strongest town read. I like that he's come out swinging from the get-go even though he's in an unfamiliar environment.
Do you not have any thoughts on sig's d2 behavior?

I agree with motel room; he'd get a slight green once I update my rainbow.

Speaking of which, want to compare rainbows at some point? :D I won't be updating mine until I do these ISOs though.
He's entertaining both perspectives on the issue of the single night kill, but he did take a stance so it's not like he's trying to sit on the fence. I would say that's a good look. When he replied to my elaboration on my suspicion of Epi he said he wondered if I had any other reasoning, which feels like he was expecting something specific from me which I didn't give him. He should tell me what that was or whether I'm just reading too much into things.

I don't lean either way on his NK analysis.


And sure, but probably later on. I feel more productive at night so I'd rather do elaborate things like that then, at the risk of sounding lazy.
by Quin
Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:24 pm
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

Epignosis wrote:Quin is either bad or a fool.
thank u
by Quin
Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:45 am
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

Long Con wrote:Those were huge. I haven't read them yet, but they must have taken you a long time. :puppy: .
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:// Method for Monkey Island gameplay
while (alive) {
  • if (vompatti == alive) {
    • vote(vompatti);
    } else if (a2thezebra == alive) {
    • vote(a2thezebra);
    } else {
    • vote(self);
    }
}

return;
This is too real for me. Fuck coding. :sigh:
It's one of my favourite posts in the game.
Quin wrote:I'll post this here as well just so people are aware of why my activity or level of effort might drop in this game:
Quin wrote:I'm getting one of my wisdom teeth out tomorrow. Originally I was supposed to get both of my bottom teeth out way back when I got the first one out, but I had some issues getting scans done so the dentist postponed getting one of them. So now I get to go through recovery a second time :omg:
My painkillers make me drowsy and between that and the expected repeat of the lack of sleep and pain I went through last time, I probably won't be incredibly motivated for a while :grin:
I got 4 impacted wisdom teeth out at once, and I was eating within 24 hours, with no pain or anything. You just gotta have the right surgeon. ;)
You and Scotty make me feel like such a whinger :haha:
by Quin
Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:19 am
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

A rainbow list for MP and I to have a chat about later :nicenod: . Most of these are substantiated and would ideally do with a more in depth ISO. No specific order, other than the obvious.

Nachomamma8

Boomslang
MovingPictures07
Elohcin/motel room 2.0
Scotty
metalmarsh89
DrWilgy
MacDougall

Vompatti
DFaraday
Snow Dog
nijuukyougou


Black Rock
Soneji
a2thezebra
Epignosis
sig
Long Con



@linki - I was just about to do the same thing before I went to bed. Voted sig.
by Quin
Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:34 pm
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Re: Monkey Island [NIGHT 2]

nice ok.

Feel better about Epi. Bussing BR seems unnecessary so I'm inclined to lean civ on him as a result.

Leaving to get 'the thing' done in half an hour, I guess I'll still be involved afterwards but people shouldn't expect the same level of investment as I usually put in :nicenod:
by Quin
Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:34 am
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Re: Monkey Island [NIGHT 2]

Boomslang wrote:
Quin wrote:nice ok.

Feel better about Epi. Bussing BR seems unnecessary so I'm inclined to lean civ on him as a result.

Leaving to get 'the thing' done in half an hour, I guess I'll still be involved afterwards but people shouldn't expect the same level of investment as I usually put in :nicenod:
True, leading the bus on BR would've been unnecessary for a baddie team. But contributing to the bus, as Epi points out, is almost a no-brainer. I'll be assisting his exploration of those voters tomorrow.
Point taken. Who stands out, Boomslang?
by Quin
Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:13 am
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Views: 47170

Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Quin wrote:A rainbow list for MP and I to have a chat about later :nicenod: . Most of these are substantiated and would ideally do with a more in depth ISO. No specific order, other than the obvious.

Nachomamma8

Boomslang
MovingPictures07
Elohcin/motel room 2.0
Scotty
metalmarsh89
DrWilgy
MacDougall

Vompatti
DFaraday
Snow Dog
nijuukyougou


Black Rock
Soneji
a2thezebra
Epignosis
sig
Long Con



@linki - I was just about to do the same thing before I went to bed. Voted sig.
Oooooh, a shiny rainbow, I love it! How the hell is Nacho still ahead of me? What do I have to do for you people? :pout: :p

I need to continue my ISO assessments this morning (they will have to wait until after teaching though), so some of these players I don't have super firm reads on. But we have some cognitive dissonance. Why slight town on MM and Wilgy? What did you think of my crappy Wilgy ISO? Why is Snow Dog a null (right?) read? I have more questions but I'll leave it at that for now.
Admittedly I might be overestimating my read of Nacho. I'm sure I've mentioned it before, but his approach to the game has checked all of the townie boxes so far. His approach is a lot like mine, too - and I feel like it's more likely to be genuine going off of that.

I'm not going to make something out of Wilgy's 'I won't check my rolecard' thing which most people seem to be interpreting in a bad way, because I know the act of opening with some sort of gambit is more likely to just be a non-indicative thing. It might seem contradictory, but I'm also town-reading Wilgy based on his 'I haven't checked my role card' gambit. What I like is, specifically, the 'thing' he chose as his gambit. Suggesting he hasn't read his role card is a load of bs, there's no way he hasn't, because I don't think he's the kind of person to screw over his team for the sake of a joke, and I think he'd have chosen a less self-incriminating meme if he were bad. I haven't read your Wilgy ISO unfortunately, I will at some point when my face doesn't hurt so bad and I'll give you my thoughts then.

As for the marmot, it was a read mostly based on tone. I don't think his Black Rock vote looked bad, though - if he's bad, I don't think they're teammates at least. The lynch could have gone either way at that point, and he only tied it up, not put her in the lead.

Snow Dog was a bit of an afterthought when I made this, it just got so late. I don't feel confident putting him as a null read, since he's one of the most active posters. He deserves more attention than I've given him.

I'm mostly curious about your moderate town read for Long Con. I'll wait on your ISO before I comment further, though.


Lay more questions on me. I find in my current situation I'll be best motivated to participate when I've got someone expecting things from me. :p

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