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by insertnamehere
Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:59 am
Forum: Tin Pan Alley
Topic: SAW [Week 64 - "Home of the Strange"]
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Re: New activity maybe

Scott Walker - Bish Bosch (on Spotify)

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by insertnamehere
Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:27 pm
Forum: Tin Pan Alley
Topic: SAW [Week 64 - "Home of the Strange"]
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Re: SAW [Week 1 - "Beneath the Brine"]

thellama73 wrote:But at some point I plan to nominate an album of horrible noise, so knock yourself out.
Already got it covered. Bish Bosch, week four.

I'm not quite sure any of you will like it, but I think we'll have fun discussing it.
by insertnamehere
Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:31 pm
Forum: Tin Pan Alley
Topic: SAW [Week 64 - "Home of the Strange"]
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Views: 82243

Re: SAW [Week 1 - "Beneath the Brine"]

THOUGHTS AFTER 1 AND A HALF LISTENS:

I agree with others saying that the titular song is the best produced. At its best, the album reminds me of the varied instrumentation and folk roots of an Elephant Six project, and at its worst like an easy-breezy prototypical indie pop chorus trifle, that wouldn't seem out of place in a soap commercial. (And this is coming from an indie pop FAN.)

Nevertheless, I like it. I'm in Epi's camp with regards to the singer's gender, although maybe I'm just used to aberrant vocalist stylings.
by insertnamehere
Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:57 pm
Forum: Tin Pan Alley
Topic: SAW [Week 64 - "Home of the Strange"]
Replies: 2046
Views: 82243

Re: SAW [Week 1 - "Beneath the Brine"]

Ricochet wrote:For your eyes only
Spoiler: show
It's like if Anthony Fantano had an accent and more than an ounce of intelligence. You've got the shelf in the background and everything.

LIGHT 9.

BEST NEW REVIEWER.
by insertnamehere
Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:18 pm
Forum: Tin Pan Alley
Topic: SAW [Week 64 - "Home of the Strange"]
Replies: 2046
Views: 82243

Re: SAW [Week 2 - "98.12.28 Otokotachi no Wakare"]

For such a pleasant album and performance, it has quite the sad backstory.
by insertnamehere
Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:04 pm
Forum: Tin Pan Alley
Topic: SAW [Week 64 - "Home of the Strange"]
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Re: SAW [Week 4 - "Bish Bosch"]

Well, I may have to provide some context here. This is an album that both requires and defies it.

Scott Walker started as a member of a 60's British Invasion boy band called The Walker Brothers. They weren't brothers, and none of them had the last name Walker. They cultivated a "glossy-haired and handsome familial image" while producing fairly standard for the time songs like The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine No More. [ ]

At one point, their UK fan club had more members than The Beatles' fan club.

Unfortunately, due to group tension, and a few singles that didn't top the charts, the Walker Brothers split up, allowing Scott to go off and make a solo career. He made four stunning albums of 60's baroque pop that ranged from covers of popular country and western songs, to risque and profane Jaques Brel covers, and bizarre, increasingly dark original material. [ ] [ ]

This was about the time that David Bowie began to admire and draw influence from Scott, who is a constant target of praise in Bowie interviews.

After releasing these four albums, and five more intentionally mediocre albums designed to fulfill studio contract obligations, Scott took a sabbatical from the music industry. He threw himself into intense study of contemporary and classical music, which included a sojourn in Quarr Abbey, a monastery on the Isle of Wight, to study Gregorian chant.

Then, in 1978, he reunited with the Walker Brothers to produce an album where he wrote and composed four new songs, including Nite Flights and The Electrician.



These tracks were heavily influenced by Brian Eno and David Bowie's then-recent art-rock pioneering, and according to Eno and Bowie, outpaced their own output in terms of bizarre qualities and gorgeousness.

This is when Scott Walker moved into a set pattern of releasing music. A new album every nine or so years, each one more demented, esoteric, and experimental than the last. Dark gothic compositions that combine rock and modern classical music with a smattering of obscure historical references and a strong desire to simply mess with the listening audience.

2006's The Drift features, among other things, the distressed braying of a donkey, a demonic Donald Duck impression, and a live recording of a dead pig being repeatedly punched.

2012's Bish Bosch is only more aberrant and outre.
by insertnamehere
Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:31 pm
Forum: Tin Pan Alley
Topic: SAW [Week 64 - "Home of the Strange"]
Replies: 2046
Views: 82243

Re: SAW [Week 4 - "Bish Bosch"]

Ricochet wrote:2006's The Drift
Thank you kindly.
by insertnamehere
Sun Mar 05, 2017 4:00 pm
Forum: Tin Pan Alley
Topic: SAW [Week 64 - "Home of the Strange"]
Replies: 2046
Views: 82243

Re: SAW [Week 4 - "Bish Bosch"]

Here's some choice lyrical excerpts for those who don't mind being spoiled.
Spoiler: show
"Shit might pretzel Christ's intestines"

"Nothing clears a room like removing a brain"

"If shit were music
La da da, la da da
You'd be a brass band"

"For a Roman
Who's proof that Greeks fucked bears"

"If brains were rain
You'd surely be a desert"

"Look, don't go to a mind reader
Go to a palmist
I know you've got a palm"

"Sorry, I’m so clumsy,
take that accidentally in the bollocks for a start"
by insertnamehere
Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:27 pm
Forum: Tin Pan Alley
Topic: SAW [Week 64 - "Home of the Strange"]
Replies: 2046
Views: 82243

Re: SAW [Week 4 - "Bish Bosch"]

First off, thank you S~V~S for responding so well to the album! I knew when I picked it that it wasn't exactly an "accessible" album that would be to everyone's tastes. Really, I was hoping for one person who hadn't heard it before to discover it and see what I saw in the album, so thank you for giving me that.

Now, Rico, another astoundingly good album review, as usual. I know that you were able to read into the lyrics of the closing track of the album "The Day The "Conducator" Died (An Xmas Song)," in relation to the execution of Nicolae Ceaușescu, but the entire album is filled with dense wordplay and esoteric historical references.

I'd like to try and provide some facts and interpretations to the lyrics in order to help people understand that this album isn't just mere fuckery for the sake of fuckery, but, to borrow an analogy from Rico, a work of Ulysseys-level density and depth.
Spoiler: show
"See You Don't Bump His Head"

The first line of the album, which is a symbolic summation of the entire album: "While plucking feathers from a swan song," serves as both a reminder of Walker's own impending mortality (he's getting up there in years, and this could be the last album he makes) and a nice grotesque image of a swan, a symbol of beauty and purity, being defiled. The album itself features multiple beautiful musical compositions which become morphed and warped over the course of the songs.

The title is a cut line from the movie From Here To Eternity, where Montgomery Cliff is cautioning soldiers who are loading Maggio's corpse, played by Frank Sinatra, into a truck. You can draw parallels from Walker to Sinatra, or maybe even see Walker in this album emulating what he views as a decomposing zombie version of Sinatra.

Corps de Blah

The funny fart song.

However, the flatulence isn't the only bit of odd instrumentation, as the sound of someone chipping away with a chisel at something or other can be heard.

Lyrically, it reminds me of Bowie's Blackstar in weird ways, which this album can be seen as a demented precursor to. As Walker gets up there in age, he loses control of his body, and his bodily functions as well. In terms of historical references, we've got Sterzig, a bolthole for Nazi war criminals in the aftermath of the Second World War, which can be compared to an old persons' home, or the elderly body itself. As we age, our bodies constrict on themselves, forcing out memories and feeling straight through the sphincter.

Phrasing

Image

Now that we've got that out the way, let's discuss the lyrics. This is one of the shorter, more minimalistic tracks on the album. More references to bodily functions and pain and protein. Klu Klux Klan in the South. Khrushchev-led communists to the east. Pain and suffering in all directions. "Here's to a lousy life" would make for a hell of a ringtone.

SDSS1416+13B (Zercon, A Flagpole Sitter)

This massive, imposing, utterly hilarious centerpiece concerns two dwarves. One, the coldest sub-stellar body in the universe discovered so far; the other, Zercon, was a real-life Moorish jester at the fifth-century court of Attila the Hun. Zerco, or Zercon was short, had shoulder humps, twisted feet and a flat nose revealed only by the two nostrils. He was enslaved and passed around by many different Hun officials, and was forced to perform as a part of a motley, despite his many desperate attempts to escape. While a part of Attila the Hun's court, he made everyone except for the Hun himself laugh, which as you can imagine, caused Zercon a lot of anxiety.

The track starts with Zercon performing for the Huns with the desperate patter of a stand-up in the middle of crashing and burning. Generic heckler put-downs, basically. He then moves onto his routine, which combines stereotypical crude stand-up zingers with historical references to, among other things, Lavinia, (a character from the Aeneid) a gynozoon, (an obscure Roman mythological beast trained to have sex with humans) Diogene's masturbation habits, (a Greek philosopher known to jack off in marketplaces) the sky god Jupiter's testicles, the Tizia, (a Hungarian river) the Papiria, (an ancient Roman patrician family) and Simeon Stylites, who climbed atop a pillar and stayed there for thirty years.

This is interrupted by Scott yelling out a direct quote from Louis B. Mayer, co-founder of MGM studios: "DID YOU EVER THROW YOUR OWN MOTHER'S FOOD BACK AT HER!?! DID YOU EVER TELL HER 'TAKE THIS FILTH AWAY!'?!? WHAT KIND OF AN UNNATURAL SON WOULD DO THAT TO HIS OWN MOTHER!?!"

Then, Zercon climbs up a flagpole, which was a trend in 1920's England, in order to escape the horror of his surroundings and achieve some level of peach.

At the end of the song, he transcends his physical form, and becomes the dwarf star SDSS1416+13B. ( https://phys.org/news/2010-01-astronome ... space.html ) A cold, dying star outside our own solar system, only seen by infrared.

Epizootics!

This is probably my favorite song on the album, musically. I think Zercon is the best lyrically, or at least the song I'm able to extrapolate the most from. Whereas this is just a damn good track.

It features a "tubax" which a combination of a tuba and a saxophone, of which there are only two of in the country.

Lyrically, it tracks a nightmare about Hawaii into a idiosyncratic world of 20's era hipsters who snap their fingers on grimy street corners. The song itself seems to be focused on conjuring a specific atmosphere more than a specific lyrical story.

And yes, the video is awesome.

Dimple

This is one I don't really have a solid pulse on. References to Denmark, and the peninsula of Jutland are plentiful, but I'm not entirely sure of their intent. Walker did live in Denmark for a time, so I consider this to be a synthesis of his experiences there.

Here's a quote from the man himself:

“I read somewhere no matter how much your face descends with age, the dimple remains in the same place. In this case, I’m using it as a metaphor for a constant presence, and building a kind of mythological face throughout the first part of the song.”

http://thequietus.com/articles/10908-sc ... -interview

Tar

For all the hullaballoo it's stirred up over the years, the Bible ain't entirely spotless when it comes to continuity errors, which is what this song concerns itself with. Contradictions in time of day, and numbers of family members of certain figures, and the overall message of the book itself is what Walker is confronting on this track. It also gives him a chance to shout out "Bilge!" "Hogwash!" "Booty chatter!" and "GTFO!"

Instrumentation on this track includes two four-feet-long machetes loudly banged together. Why not.

In addition, you can find references to Colombian Neckties, Franglais, ancient Greek currency, and Pilates punk in the lyrics.

YMMV.

Pilgrim

This is the closest thing to a ridiculous, fanciful lark Walker takes on the album. I'm sure he has his reasons for singing about rooms full of mice, but they're damn near incomprehensible to me.

The Day The "Conducator" Died (An Xmas Song)

As Rico stated in his stellar review, this track is about Romanian communist dictator Nicolae Ceaușescu who was executed along with his wife on Christmas Day 1989. Nicolae believed his people loved him and bought into his own propaganda. The song is set up as Nicolae questioning himself about who he truly was on the day of his death. He's unable to come up with a solid answer, so warped is his self-perception.

"Nobody waited for fire" is a reference to the firing squad shooting him before an order was even given. Naturally, the song ends with the intro to Jingle Bells.

'Tis the season.
Hopefully, this gratuitous exercise helped some of you see some meaning behind the hunk of anti-matter that is this album and will help you appreciate it more on future listens. The info behind these analyses, I got from genius.com, liner notes, interviews with Walker himself, and my own diseased psyche.
by insertnamehere
Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:05 am
Forum: Tin Pan Alley
Topic: SAW [Week 64 - "Home of the Strange"]
Replies: 2046
Views: 82243

Re: SAW [Week 4 - "Bish Bosch"]

I'll write enough words about this album to make up for all of youse.
by insertnamehere
Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:54 am
Forum: Tin Pan Alley
Topic: SAW [Week 64 - "Home of the Strange"]
Replies: 2046
Views: 82243

Re: SAW [Week 4 - "Bish Bosch"]

Y'all people quitting halfway before you even get to hear Epizootics! :disappoint:
by insertnamehere
Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:34 pm
Forum: Tin Pan Alley
Topic: SAW [Week 64 - "Home of the Strange"]
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Re: SAW [Week 4 - "Bish Bosch"]

Epignosis wrote:It's art. I get it.

It's bad art. A cross in a jar of urine is art. It's bad art. It doesn't take any talent to deliver. This album is talentless. If I am going to spend my time listening to music, I want to hear skill.
I think you're objectively wrong. :daisy:
by insertnamehere
Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:36 pm
Forum: Tin Pan Alley
Topic: SAW [Week 64 - "Home of the Strange"]
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Views: 82243

Re: SAW [Week 4 - "Bish Bosch"]

There's a difference between saying that this album isn't your kind of thing, and Scott Walker has no talent or skill. I'll fight the latter tooth and nail.
by insertnamehere
Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:20 pm
Forum: Tin Pan Alley
Topic: SAW [Week 64 - "Home of the Strange"]
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Re: SAW [Week 9 - "Whole Stories"]

Ricochet wrote:Image

As you can see, I've made modifications, but do please verify that I haven't changed any of your ratings in the process of flipping them over.
My rankings out of what I've been able to listen to:

Beneath the Brine: 2.5/5
Fishmans: 4/5
World Music: 3.5/5
Bish Bosch: 5/5
Woodface: 2/5
Arthur: 4/5
by insertnamehere
Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:28 am
Forum: Tin Pan Alley
Topic: SAW [Week 64 - "Home of the Strange"]
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Views: 82243

Re: SAW [Week 10 - "> album title goes here <"]

Voted Option A.

I'm submitting an album that's more or less diametrically opposed to Bish Bosch: All Hail West Texas by The Mountain Goats.
by insertnamehere
Sat May 27, 2017 11:22 am
Forum: Tin Pan Alley
Topic: SAW [Week 64 - "Home of the Strange"]
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Re: SAW [(redo) Week 11 - "A Passion Play"]

Album Suggestion:

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by insertnamehere
Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:55 pm
Forum: Tin Pan Alley
Topic: SAW [Week 64 - "Home of the Strange"]
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Re: SAW [Week 25 - "Fetish Bones"]

Timber Timbre - Creep On Creepin' On / 2011 / Freak Folk / 10 Tracks / 39:28

For spooky Halloween times, preferably.
by insertnamehere
Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:25 pm
Forum: Tin Pan Alley
Topic: SAW [Week 64 - "Home of the Strange"]
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Re: SAW [Week 25 - "Fetish Bones"]

Spoiler: show


links to my album submission
by insertnamehere
Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:08 pm
Forum: Tin Pan Alley
Topic: SAW [Week 64 - "Home of the Strange"]
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Re: SAW [Week 25 - "Fetish Bones"]

insertnamehere wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:55 pm Timber Timbre - Creep On Creepin' On / 2011 / Freak Folk / 10 Tracks / 39:28

For spooky Halloween times, preferably.
reeeeesubmit
by insertnamehere
Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:50 pm
Forum: Tin Pan Alley
Topic: SAW [Week 64 - "Home of the Strange"]
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Re: SAW [Week 33 - "Creep On Creepin' On"]

G-Man wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:18 pm THAT HANDSOME DEVIL:
Another attribute I've noticed is that the artists are very intentional about portraying an image through their music. Some of the little things, like a laugh here, an extra side comment to the listener there, seem like things more suited to a live show, so it's like their trying to capture some of their stage persona on the record. It's fine on this album but it might wear thin over multiple albums for me. Another analogy I came up with to describe the album is this: take every single Quentin Tarantino movie soundtrack, put it in a blender, and add a healthy dose of Tarantino's desire to be intentionally hip with everything he does, and it might sound like A City Dressed in Dynamite.

TIMBRE TIMBRE:
How is this a variant of folk music? To me it just sounds like quasi-tongue-in-cheek gothic alternative.
I'd say Obelisk, Swamp Magic, Lonesome Hunter, and Souvenirs all qualify as "folk" on Creep On.

Timber Timbre changes their sound from album to album. Their early stuff is their folkiest, and was literally recorded in a cabin in the middle of the woods. After they signed with an indie label, they gradually added more and more instrumentation and production values, while still keeping the same general atmosphere to their music for their next couple albums (Creep On being included in that.)

After the release of this album, they went into more varied and retro territory. Hot Dreams was a tribute to California, and was made to sound like 50's film scores/the closest thing to gothic country ever concocted. Their latest album Image is kind of their arbitrary synthesizer album that seemingly every band has to do at some point, and is my least favorite of theirs. They recently released a pretty snazzy single that sounds like, yet again, a new direction for the band with dark lounge crooning and seemingly random French interjections.
by insertnamehere
Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:50 pm
Forum: Tin Pan Alley
Topic: SAW [Week 64 - "Home of the Strange"]
Replies: 2046
Views: 82243

Re: SAW [Week 33 - "Creep On Creepin' On"]

"like the tingling sensation of a spider walking on your forearm"

perfect summation of this album.

Yeah, I agree with you in saying that this isn't Timber Timbre's best work, but I think it's the best possible gateway to the band and links to the rest of their discography clearly. Essentially, this is the "start here" album on the Timber Timbre flowchart, with arrows labeled "rawer and lo-fi," "more like this," and "what if instead of spooky woods, California" leading to Medicinals, their self-titled album, and Hot Dreams respectively.

Plus, this is probably their most outwardly "spoooooky" album, which seemed appropriate for the holiday.

My personal favorite is Hot Dreams, but despite being a kick-ass album, it isn't really indicative of the rest of the band's work.

You also correctly identified Beat the Dead Horse, Under Your Spell, and Lay Down In The Tall Grass as pure quality.

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