The Syndicate

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2017 9:10 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2017 9:03 pm Heckin' nobody wants to talk to me I see how it is.

Tell me about yourself and your life. *leans closer*

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2017 9:20 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2017 9:15 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2017 9:10 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2017 9:03 pm Heckin' nobody wants to talk to me I see how it is.

Tell me about yourself and your life. *leans closer*

I like long walks on the beach and complaining about INH games.

Sounds reasonable.

That is actually of interest to me. I haven't played any INH-games, but I would not be surprised if they were a bit crazy given the theme. How has other games from him been? What can we expect? o.o

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:58 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:52 pm Who wants to tell me where I should place my vote?

Oo, me me me!

Let's wagon Llama!

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:19 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:10 pm Dyslexicon, what're your thoughts on LC?

Mentioned something about this already, but I think it's very possible that LC was just mistaken and didn't see his role at first, and therefore assumed he was an LMS role. It doesn't seem likely that he's scum in that position at least. And he detailed his role PM in a way that matched with mine, even though I don't think it's all that hard to see what role you are in the format. But I also forget to put on my shoes when going out sometimes. All in all I find a better case for that being actual town that is mistaken. However, the game has barely begun and I will wait and see if LC blinds me with his towniness and sparkles for the duration of the game. Meow.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:31 pm And it belongs to the story that LC PMedd me asking to make a deal about not voting each other for the first five lynches or something like that, so it really looked like believed he was LMS. I wouldn't be surprised if he PMed other players asking the same. :3

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:38 pm I PMed Dizzy because we were online at the same time.

I didn't PM DH because I didn't plan to make a deal with him, because I was a fool to think we had an understanding in Survivor, and died the death of a buffoon because of it.

I did PM a couple of other folks, with basically the same offer. But those offers are not really valid anymore, because it's not a LMS game. I do like Dizzy's friendly attitude about it though. I guess I'll refrain from voting Dizzy for the first five days. (Although my offer was more like "until we're in the Final Five"... a concept that isn't the same in a regular Mafia game).

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:35 pm So, DH, have you had any BTSC with anyone yet? Make any Negan deals?

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:43 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:37 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:35 pm So, DH, have you had any BTSC with anyone yet? Make any Negan deals?

I dunno. Have I?

I am not the one with the required information to answer that question accurately. I believe that you are the best candidate to answer this one.

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:27 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:24 pm @INH - Can I quote from PMs?

You can paraphrase. You cannot directly quote.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:33 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:29 pmLong Con had his own team kill him once.

I don't need to describe a theory that "works for me."

You need to describe it if you want to work together with people. If you don't want that that's your choice. But you leave a lot to be desired for me to understand where you are coming from.

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I will ask everyone: What do you all think about what you gather Epi's theory is?

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:56 pm I don't have an LMS role. I have a Civ role. My mind just read the "vanilla" part and didn't process the "civ" part as a "civ-vs-mafia" thing because I wasn't in that mindset. Like, we're all Civvies in a LMS game, you know?

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:46 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:35 am

thellama73 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:33 am ALl in favor of voting to lynch the most annoying player?

Why? So he can gain immunity for perpetuity because he successfully got himself lynched Day 1?

If it makes him stop being annoying, then yes

Also I doubt the prescence of a Fool/Jester so I see no problem at lynching. There are only 3 power roles present after all since it's a heist, correct?

Ricochet wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:01 pm P O P P Y I'm Poppy!
P O P P Y I'm Poppy!
P O P P Y I'm Poppy!
P O P P Y That's me!

Why you pickin' on meeee
I'm a nilly ci-vvieeee
Always was and will beee
Trust and be no sillyyy

Any blank suss on meeee
Is kinda sounding wolf-ieeee
sprit, you lazy, may-beeee
llama prime lyncheeee

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:34 pm Hmm. Perhaps LC is independent, then? If he didn't realize/his PM didn't indicate his alignment or gave him some sort of indie win condition?

I like trees. I don't want to chop them up. But I'll have to pick one I guess. And the event... yeah public protection doesn't seem like it makes sense, but then again it does ensure that player won't die but it pretty much ensures that someone else will be targeted and likely die (rather than have a chance of protecting the right person, as non-public protections can). The BTSC block might be better though, especially if we already suspect that someone (e.g. LC) may have ulterior anti-town motives in attempts to contact people.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:33 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:42 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:51 am Hm. I believe LC and Dys are telling truths.

Why?

Just because. They sound legit. I buy LC's story about assuming LMS with a vanilla role. Your assessment of that makes sense as well. He could be an actually LMS role, but that seems much less likely.

And I suppose I've been misguided in reading Dys before, but I'm really only getting genuine town vibes so far. Except I'm pretty baffled by her strong desire to lynch llama (which rico seems to agree with inexplicably). Why lynch llama, what's the reasoning?

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:25 pm We do not have a deal, Epignosis. I'm not dealing with someone I can't trust.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:03 pm Do something infamous.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2017 11:36 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:44 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:34 pm Hmm. Perhaps LC is independent, then? If he didn't realize/his PM didn't indicate his alignment or gave him some sort of indie win condition?

I like trees. I don't want to chop them up. But I'll have to pick one I guess. And the event... yeah public protection doesn't seem like it makes sense, but then again it does ensure that player won't die but it pretty much ensures that someone else will be targeted and likely die (rather than have a chance of protecting the right person, as non-public protections can). The BTSC block might be better though, especially if we already suspect that someone (e.g. LC) may have ulterior anti-town motives in attempts to contact people.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:33 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:42 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:51 am Hm. I believe LC and Dys are telling truths.

Why?

Just because. They sound legit. I buy LC's story about assuming LMS with a vanilla role. Your assessment of that makes sense as well. He could be an actually LMS role, but that seems much less likely.

And I suppose I've been misguided in reading Dys before, but I'm really only getting genuine town vibes so far. Except I'm pretty baffled by her strong desire to lynch llama (which rico seems to agree with inexplicably). Why lynch llama, what's the reasoning?

An interesting change of heart, one must admit.

A few questions:

1. Why in your initial statement do you say "we" instead of "i"? It sounds to me you're trying to make the LC suspicion seem a little more credible/widespread by insinuating that it is a widely held suspicion. It also smells of disassociation (i.e "We all thought it! I wasn't the only one! if it blew up in your face later).

2. What about LC's defense did you specifically "Believe" from point A to point B? You seem confident enough at least in the beginnings of your LC suspicion to base your D0 vote around the idea (by blocking BTSC, in your own words, with the targeted goal of affecting LC).

3. How did you go from putting such stock into the initial LC suspicion (enough so to push it in that one post on two separate statements, as highlighted) to believing that your own assessment was "much less likely"

You are reaching pretty far here. I used LC as an example because people were already questioning his motives early in day zero, but that didn't mean he was a serious suspect by the time the game actually got going. Like, yeah, I was initially a little suspicious of his mix-up, but the more he and others talked about it the more clear it became to me that he just made a legitimate mistake. In the first post you quote, I did think it was reasonably possible he had a LMS/indie role of some kind that supported his assumption, but afterward he explained that he had already thought it was a LMS game and just didn't process the "vanilla civ" part of his pm, and that made sense to me.