The Syndicate

Shit, sorry, I'm here, I didn't realize that this had started!!!

So... heard any good jokes, lately?

My catch-up took all of about 3 minutes, but when I read my role PM it made it pretty clear that I'm a good guy, thus I too am skeptical of LC not knowing there were civs and others in the game. Barring developments, that is a pretty sizeable Day 1 ping.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:02 pm
timmer wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:59 pm My catch-up took all of about 3 minutes, but when I read my role PM it made it pretty clear that I'm a good guy, thus I too am skeptical of LC not knowing there were civs and others in the game. Barring developments, that is a pretty sizeable Day 1 ping.
Really? Mine was two words, after a series of short, staccato sentences describing my character briefly, under a picture bigger than the text line.

I've never played an INH game... does he vary the tone and format of role PMs from player to player?

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:07 pm My Role PM was just a Negan Gif and a link to two girls one cup.

I had finally wiped that from my mind (Negan, that is). Thanks.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:12 pm
He said it was in a different line, which it was in mine too. So what do you think really happened with LC and what was the intention of his play?

All he said was this: Really? Mine was two words, after a series of short, staccato sentences describing my character briefly, under a picture bigger than the text line.

I think Lc goofed, I think he is not town. This is like color-by-numbers shit, man, you really need this expanded?

@LC, mine sounds different than yours, but my alignment was pretty clearly stated.

*cough*

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2017 5:49 pm RULES

13. No copy and pasting or screenshotting my PMs to you. Do not use any part of my role PMs as supposed verification for your roleclaims. People have to take you at your word when you claim your role, no using me as a shield.

Day ain't over yet

Voting for LC wouldn't get these great reactions out of you.

I'll tell you what. You and LC can PM me and tell me your roles and I'll consider not voting for you

If there is a town, then there is an anti-town. Whatever INH called it is irrelevant and unknown to me.

I believe LC thought the game was LMS, skimmed his role, it wasn't written in a town way, and ran with the LMS plan until he was corrected. It's good enough for a Day 1 this early on.

@Dys, I think you understand me fine

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:53 pm Even *EPIGNOSIS* got a deal?!?!?

No one has offered me a deal.

@Dys:

I think LC has played mafia long enough that the word civilian in a role description is not something that he would have missed. So I surmise that it is possible that his role does not have the word civilian in it. Also very possible is that LC actually IS an LMS role. Whatever he is, he may legit be what he thought the game was. His role could say "must be last one left" or something, and thus he thought that was everyone's boat because that is what he thought the game was.

Either way, NO, I do not think LC knew he was anti-town and chose to play like this. I think he just missed that he is not civilian and/or is an LMS role and goofed in thinking that that was the norm.

As for why my vote is on you? Because it seems to bug you.

This is mafia, homie. Everything is serious (and also not).

But that's my point, LC. You were thinking it was LMS. You've admitted it. So if you actually GOT an LMS role.... you might think we all did, right? Because you were thinking it was an LMS game and here you were with an LMS role, etc.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:05 am
I am confused by this.

If you think he actually IS an LMS role, then he would not have baddie teammates. So why are you voting for Dizzy?

At this point, mostly for the lulz. If nothing else happens I'll more likely vote for LC.

Ok, so a few things. I'm intrigued by the fact that dys generally disliked the fact that I had made comments about LC but had placed my vote on him in stead (or are you a she? a ze? ) but meanwhile he talks of liking to move his vote around to get reactions. Why not see that my vote was for a similar reason? Why dislike a vote that has been made in the same spirit as your own gameplay? It's interesting.

As for being mentioning that something is good enough for Day 1, I don't like that that was taken as a dismissive statement. In a game where votes can be moved, and in the midst of someone seeming to stumble, me voting early and then saying that is a good enough reason for that moment is fine, I think?

As for LC, maybe I'm not voting for him because part of this whole thing has been to see how people react. While it isn't enough for my to even raise an eyebrow at her, I'm a touch surprised that SVS took as much suspicion from my play as she has, but then again, I don't play much these days and I'm certainly being a bit more glib than my usual cautious, mopey way, lol, so maybe that's all it is? Again, I'm not suspicious of her for the vote, I'm just surprised.

As for others, well I'm certainly curious to hear what nutella says about what DH posted. That is an apparent complete 180 turn, so some chatter there is more than necessary as that puts nutella squarely on the vote map.

Whoever is posting only in haikus or whatever, I'm not reading your posts, so I hope you aren't actually trying to play that way for realz.

Oh, and special bonus marks to dys for posting a Latrice gif... brings back memories of the greatest laugh in the history of television!

This is apropos of nothing, but there is a trailer out for a Flatliners remake. On the one hand, it looks awful. On the other hand, it also looks awful.

@Dys, I'm a product of my age, so I'll go with male pronouns as a default until corrected, then?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2017 11:44 pm @Timmer, I meant to ask you - You earlier said you found it hard to believe that LC would miss his "civillian" from his role PM. But dt if you think he'd not miss the civ, do you think it's likely that he would miss that he is mafia with X, Y and Z? Someone else brought this up (can't remember who), but haven't seen you comment on it.

It's a balance of things known versus things unknown. Because of my role PM, I know the word civilian is there and that INH used it. But I have never to my knowledge played an INH game, and people keep saying they are different, and if I can be quite honest, I don't know if I've ever played a Heist game, either, so the balance of those last points is that I do not know what terminology INH would use for bad guys. Would the word baddie be there? Or just bad? Or mafia? Or mafioso? It's a bit more grey, thus I put less weight into the idea that LC just somehow missed the word civilian in his role PM because there is at least a chance that the alternate words (especially if he is a true LMS indy type role!) may not be as traditionally eye-catching for someone who is skimming.

I very well might think he's telling the truth, too. If anything actually solid turns up there is no way I'm voting LC today, tbh.

I won't be joining you, there. Epig just seems like his usual self, so far.

I'm stuck at work and must post using subterfuge.

@SVS, I haven't played much at all lately so I have no idea when I was bad.

Well, that certainly makes Wilgy sound like he isn't a civ.

Changing my vote until Wilgy offers a reasonable explanation.

Hey Doc I think my vote is an appropriate answer to your pm'd question, dontcha think?

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2017 2:18 pm @G-Man and anyone else interested in my G-Man suspicions, here ya go:

Initially nothing pinged me too badly about G-Mans posts but when they did start to ping me, woo boy, I got the vapors.

Right now I see a bunch of people jawing at each other. Rather than break out my own jump-to-conclusions mat, I'll vote for the game's only no-show. I may or may not keep it there.
Easy vote not likely to result in much blowback ^ Very blendy, low profile decision. I assume he meant Spacedaisy. He did end up moving his vote but the fucking website is a troll and polls are DaVinci Code level impossible to monitor (which is why I try to accompany my votes with Timestamped posts, even when I change votes)

Here and Here and Here we have G-Man expressing distrust/suspicion of Dyslexicon.

Yet Here we have G-Man admitting to having voted for Llama for at least a while. Llama, whom Dyslexicon suggested we bus. Not apparently due to any suspicion, but because it would cause 'drama'.

I dunno, when people vote contrary to their apparent suspicions it makes me wonder.

Excellent thoughts! I'm a bit tied up today so I won't be providing much content, but I like this.

I'm here for the moment. Ill be around much more tomorrow. I vote Rico for now.

Interesting past game meta discussions but I'm not voting for either of you at this time. Rico buddy. If you are being forced to post like that you need to put more content in it. I've seen you pot some brief thoughts in your posts here and there but it just feels like you are only doing it enough to get people of your back. What do thou think of epig and lc?

Some questions...

@Epig, I just iso'd your posts for the word nutella, and read through them. Am I correct that your stance on nutella essentially boils down to the use of the word pushing? Have the more recent posts bolstered this in your eyes, or are things roughly the same?

@DH, you've got your vote on G-Man. He is only 1 vote off of being tied for the lynch, but one of his votes is his own self, and the other besides yours is a player asking for replacement and thus not around. I'm curious if this situation causes you to think MORE that G could be bad, or if the situation seems likely that he isn't? Where are you on G atm?

I'm leaving Rico as my default vote for today, but only for the moment.

@LC, other than Epig, where are your thoughts? What do you think of G-Man and his self-vote? Would a bad G do that? And you had trusted Dys earlier in the game, does his vote on G sway you there?

I'm unsure of what the actual case is on G-Man, so I'm trying to figure out the votes on him and whether he would self-vote and bail as a baddie.

I'm kind of in the same boat. Looking at the lynch at the moment, it is between a guy posting, either intentionally or by role design, in an annoying way, or a guy who seems to have thrown in the towel and is self-voting.

I\ve read the LC/Epig thing twice through, but I can't help feel like they are just picking at each other. I'm more interested in Epig's stance on nutella atm but yeah, this lynch seems built on a bunch of substandard stuff, and I include my own current vote in there

I just wen to move my vote off of Rico and then here at the last second SD comes in and votes G-Man. I don't like that, so I moved my vote back to Rico. SD's sudden appearance smells like a Rico save.

@SD, you think a G-Man who throws in the towel is bad? It seems like there is a decent chance it is what a civ G-Man would do. You obviously took enough time to read that he had kind of given up, so you must have weighed the odds of it being a good vs a bad move as well. so.... what do you think of Rico, again? 'cause it sure looks like you tried to save him.

Also, you had previously stated that you thought LC was civ, so why not follow his vote onto Epig? That seems like it would have made much more civ-sense from a "not around much" perspective?

ETA: hmph... ok, then, see you around!

I hear you, SD, I've been there. Get some sleep!

So... is Mrs. Williams civ? Sorry if I'm dense, but it seems like none of the deceased in the game have had alignment listed?

Haha, exactly!

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:34 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2017 5:49 pm RULES

1. Open BTSC (Feel free to PM anyone about the game, in order to make alliances, trade information, or speculate wildly.)
2. No editing or deleting of posts.
3. Role outing is allowed and encouraged. Lying about your role is also allowed and encouraged.
4. No double-targeting (targeting the same individual with a power twice in a row).
5. No disrespectful behavior.
6. Dead players should not post on-topic and should be in dead red. There is a "dead" button when posting for this function.
7. Off-topic posts should be in off-topic green. There is an "OT" button when posting for this function.
8. Posts from non-players should be in non-player blue. There is a "np" button when posting for this function.
9. Host posts will have the "Times New Roman" font. No other personages may use this font in their posts.
9. Days will be 48 hours, Nights will be 24 hours.
10. Crazy shenanigans are guaranteed, but these are not created to be in any certain players' favor.
11. This is only Phase 1.
12. If you have any questions, think you've found an error, or need help, send a PM to insertnamehere or the mod on duty: Dom.
13. No copy and pasting or screenshotting my PMs to you. Do not use any part of my role PMs as supposed verification for your roleclaims. People have to take you at your word when you claim your role, no using me as a shield.

99 percent sure this is mulholland drive mafia yall

I mean... it almost has to be, right?

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:41 pm A man walks into town one morning, straight into the saloon.

He gathers the attention of the townsfolk and says "It'll rain tomorrow." which the townsfolk can't possibly believe, because it has been the longest drought in history.

So the guy says "Fine, I'll bet $500 dollars it rains tomorrow." and the townsfolk, eager to make money, take him up on the bet.

The next day it rains.

How interesting.

Oh, like, it rains bullets?

I'd really love to know if Rico just chose that Poppy thing on his own or if it was built into his role.

But jeez, not one bit of good news in the alignment reveals, except for the lack of power roles I guess.

This Epig/LC brouhaha has my head spinning, but I can get on the llama train.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:41 pm Though the poll doesn't show it, Epi voted second for Llama.

Considering that when I voted for llama I was the second voter after Epig, I'd suggest that you are wrong.

I'm not going to be around today much. I've got people all over my house installing windows and doors so I'll be busy, mostly pacing and fretting. My vote stays where it is. I think Epig seems civvie, and the longer LC stays on his blindered path, the more I think he might be, too. But I think they may have tripped into finding a baddie by proxy in llama.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:14 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:10 pm That's why I have you, nutella.

So, in your opinion, where does that leave us with regard to mutiny, alignment change, speedchuck, and the game moving forward?
Oh, and apparently I need to say this as well:

Epignosis, DharmaHelper, Llama, Spacedaisy, Quin, S~V~S, Sloonei, Timmer... this post, and the previous few posts I made, are open and welcome to your input as well. It may seem like I was singularly talking to nutella there, to the exclusion of the rest of you, so I want to clear that up so there are no more miscommunications. I value all your opinions on this and all other matters. Please let me know if you would prefer that I write a separate post about this that has you specifically named.

I would prefer that, actually, thanks.

Can I get a wut wut?

Voted LC for now. Sorry man, but I think Epig is civ, and your persistence in blindering yourself to him dosen't feel like civ LC.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:33 pm
timmer wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:26 pm Voted LC for now. Sorry man, but I think Epig is civ, and your persistence in blindering yourself to him dosen't feel like civ LC.
I have a difficult time believing a member of a mafia team didn't realize this was not an LMS game/asked literally everyone but me for a deal.

Oh, good point, I forgot all of that from the beginning! Self-voting for now.

Actually self-voting feels weird. Moved my vote to Quin, to put it somewhere.

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