The Syndicate

Hellooo everyone! My name is DrWilgy and I am most definitely a doctor.

@Hosts, I see rules against double targeting, does this apply to evolution points?

Linki - Ayyy

Interesting, anyone care to guess what type advantages/disadvantages do for someone?

Neat. I will absolutely not voting for Dizzy. Love u fam.

Currently in the running for my point will be going to either DDL or JoH. You two fight to the death for my affection plz.

What does everyone think about ending day 1 in a tie?

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 10:01 pm

G-Man wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:10 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 8:55 pm Neat. I will absolutely not voting for Dizzy. Love u fam.

Currently in the running for my point will be going to either DDL or JoH. You two fight to the death for my affection plz.

What does everyone think about ending day 1 in a tie?

In Epi games, ties result in no lynch. I'm not sure if Simon is a chip off the old block like that. Are you proposing a tie just to see what happens since it's not spelled out in the rules or to try to have a lynchless day?

If I know Simon, ties will end in a battle to the death.

Lol, perhaps that's where type advantage plays into effect.

Eloh, who are you giving your evo point to?

timmer wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 12:39 am Wait, Day 0 ended? I didn't vote, I didn't realize the deadline, apparently.

I think you are good for 6 more hours.

JoH, at what point do you accept something that's half assed? What percent completion?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:24 am

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:20 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:17 am

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:59 am Well shit, sorry to Nutella who i accidentally lynched. Got confused about what that was.

I panicked for a second, but you only voted for nutella, didn't lynch her. And I think votes are changeable in this game.

You're going to hate me, can you explain the votes to me again? It's amazing how much I've forgotten in 2-3 years. So what is that vote for? Will there be another vote up for the lynch?

It is a vote for the lynch. But just a single vote.

At the deadline on the above poll, the player with the most votes will be lynched. You can change your vote at any time up till then. So it's not really something worth apologizing for. We'll all have votes on us at one point or another.

Speak for yourself.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:51 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:29 am JoH, at what point do you accept something that's half assed? What percent completion?

Can you be more specific?

Accept that it sucks? That it's good enough?

At what point do you stop caring when something is not up to your standard? Are ideal situations achievable? is a better question.

@all if you had to lynch DDL or JoH which one?

@all if you had to lynch TSP, Dom or Mac which one?

DDL, is JoH on your team?

timmer wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 6:03 pm I voted for Dom, no great reason. Not very useful but I didn't want to miss the vote.

Remember when you were bad and randy voted? Wilgy remembers

Shit. I was busy shopping.

I was hankering on voting DF or Timmer. Womp womp.

boo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:00 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:52 pm As I see it, (since I didn't vote for one of them on night 0) I am voting for three different people on the first three nights of the game, which is as much "spreading" as is possible up to that point. After night 2, I will re-evaluate whether I want to stay in the pact or not, and I may well vote for someone else anyway. Get off my case, I'm just playing the game.

Oh, so you're giving your word to be part of a long term plan, which by your own logic is something baddies would be looking to do, and you're already planning ahead to when you'll break it. Cool.

What about you boo? Do you think baddies plan long term?

I agree with you Hazlenut, and burden of proof does fall on the accuser.

Hazelnut what do you think about me right now?

DFaraday wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:01 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:51 pm Shit. I was busy shopping.

I was hankering on voting DF or Timmer. Womp womp.

Why me?

Your vote was lame. Timmer's was as well. Random voting is a plague.

G-Man wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:14 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:10 pm I like Boo

Not sure if he is good or bad, but I like him. He plays the way I do.

Impressed by him am I as well.

To both of you, why and how?

G-Man wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:49 pm Interesting result. Not a very strategic kill. I suspect it's someone with experience playing against Jack.

RIP.

Odd what makes you say this?

@DDL, why are you so unsure of his alignment then if you thinks it comes from a civ perspective?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:22 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:10 pm

G-Man wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:49 pm Interesting result. Not a very strategic kill. I suspect it's someone with experience playing against Jack.

RIP.

Odd what makes you say this?

@DDL, why are you so unsure of his alignment then if you thinks it comes from a civ perspective?

My opinion is not a constant.

But what changed?

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:20 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:48 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:24 pm By the way, keep in mind: I think every pokemon has 2 evolutions. If someone gets over 6 points (we can't ask them or know for sure, but y'know. Estimate.) it isn't helpful.

Let's say that you form a triangle and everybody votes for each other (A good strategy. Beneficial and guarantees a certain amount.). Then don't do it for more than 3 nights. That would be stupid.

Is this right?

Agreed. No sense wasting evo-points. Ideally we can get every Civ up to maxed out level, and put some powerful abilities in play.

Yes, thia is true. But how are we to really talk about it without the baddiea killing those who have received enough evolve votes. I planned on giving evolve points to two people I feel I can trust, targeting each every oher night untul they each get three. I wouldn't want to share who in the thread because I would be afraid they might be killed. So, please, if I'm missing some kinf of strategy where we can collaborate, tell me.

By the mindset "that we can evolve more with coordination than the baddies can possibly kil off" this works, but it does require at least 60% player coordination.

Eloh, where is your head at right now? A brief summary if you don't mind.

RIP. Chrome ate my post. Time to retype.

Right now, I have tonal pings from both DDL and Boo though I'm unsure the direct cause. I don't think Boo is on a team with Hazelnut. I want to see where the Boo suspicion goes and see thier thoughts on having the vote lead.

I'd say put both DF and Timmer on the chopping block again for their shitty votes last cycle. Timmer's vote now has high momentum. He and Boo are probably not on a team.

Anyone wanna tie Mac and Dom, and have them fight to the death as they aren't here lol? Also now that I have some hindsight, it kinda sucks that TSP died right as he entered the game. Probably should have saved him rgardless of the alignment. Oh well, wasn't here.

boo wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 1:18 pm Skating by, adding nothing Timmer is baddie Timmer. I'm going to put my vote there. For now anyways, see how things shake out if I get back before the lynch ends.

@DF and Hazlenut, y'all are right. I misread what DF had originally posted and thought he fully rando voted. Sorry DF, you did not earn my suspicion.

@Sprityo, that was my own personal chopping block. Players I thought I'd like to murk.

@Hosts did boo and Timmer battle to the death?

I'm buzzed, AMA.

Also I wonder if the hosts will respond.

Man, no one asked me anything and my buzz is wearing down. Time to drink more.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jun 29, 2017 2:47 am Wilgy, what do you offer this game?

Same thing I offer every game LC, a perspective that you can't truly prove that I actually have. Most of y'all can't even prove that I truley exist for that matter... at least outside that of concept and theory. The concept of existence itself is the only truth.

here's to hoping the hosts answer my question. I think I have a good idea.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jun 29, 2017 2:32 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:35 am

here's to hoping the hosts answer my question. I think I have a good idea.

If your question was serious, I have no idea what you're asking.

Did Timmer and Boo fight and was Timmer KO'd because of that?

I see in Simon's first lynch write up "It doesn't matter though, because he got the most votes.
TonyStarkPrime is unable to battle!"

Would TSP have battled if there was a tie is the implication I'm curious about?

Here's my full thoughts and why I was asking about ties. If this is where typing comes into play (A tie resulting in a battle), it means we can narrow down the survivor's role. This would be entirely in thread information as well so no infodumping.

Bulbasuar as a Grass/Poison could be beat by a super effective hit by the following civilian roles:
Pidgey
Snover
Ralts
Torchic
Mew
The following Mafia roles:
Inkay
Gastly
And he could be beaten by Mewtwo

Boo is likely one of these above.

While this is widespread, this may become very helpful come later game if we vote into ties and begin ruling out roles.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:05 pm Or, each voter has a weighted vote based on their type and their vote-target's type, and there was no tie?

This is what I thought for abit, but after looking at the typing of the mafia, this would be imbalanced for certain roles i.e. Bulbasuar who would have been hit double by 2 of the mafia. Unless there was a power to offset this I dont think it's the case.

If this is the case, however, we may want to look for baddies on the Timmer wagon.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:06 pm I'm not voting in ties just to turn the most powerful civilian weapon we have, the lynch, into an unstable role analysis tool that kills the revealed player.

Not sure if all that makes sense.

But yeah, if the tie was decided like that, then that's cool.

It makes sense and I agree. I think it's more of a if we have the leisure to do so thing. If we have the chance for added info, take it. Y'know? A scenario where this would be helpful may be when/if we vote per say 2 individuals who haven't touched the thread yet?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 2:07 am Am... am I actually in this game? Ok.

Ho-ly shiiiiiit, what's up Mac?

MOOOOOOOOM, LC broke the siiiiiite.

Gman's notes brought me back to these lists.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:10 pm Boo
Gman
Dizzy
Nutella
Speedchuck
DF

Thats my proposed list. You guys post yours. I propose we make a deadline for it and then everyone sends their votes. Is 3 hours before the end of N0 good enough?

DFaraday wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:40 pm If we're still considering alternatives to Jack's list:

G-Man
Boo
DDL
Dyslexicon

Those are the only ones I'm leaning somewhat civ on so far.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 5:08 pm For what it's worth, here's a list of players I'm considering sending my point to:
Jack
G-Man
Long Con
Speedchuck
Dyslexicon
Timmer

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 6:22 pm So I don't get the purpose of putting 6 names down. From what I can read in the OP it's just one person you vote for. But my list is as follows:

Speedchuck - because we're CPI buddies
Dom - because I'm afraid of Dom. Always.
Jack - because I "like" jack as a person
DrWigly - because he's a doctor
LC - because I like LC as a person
Mac - because I haven't seen Mac in forever it feels like

Everyone above, has your list from before changed? how has it changed? has it narrowed down or widened? why?

DDL, DF, Hazelnut, you had all 3 chosen Gman. Why G-man in specific.

Sprityo, in regards to your list specifically, you and Jack were the only ones to list me. Why did you choose me? beyond that of "he's a doctor?" Am I still on that list? Why did you choose Dom and Mac as one only posted today, and the other is still out?

There are more players that I no idea what to think than players who I have thoughts on. I'd say the null and void atm are DF, Dom, Eloh, G-Man, Mac, Neverwhere, Sprit and Tink. From all of you, can you let me know which player you find the most interesting, and why?

And for now...

Adios muchachos.

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:39 pmDr. Wigly pings me off a bit too. He seems helpful, but fishes for a lot of information and asks a lot of questions without giving much of his own opinion sometimes. I think he just reminds me a lot of me when I've been scum.

I like this. Information gain without use is just fluff, even if it brings discussion.

If you want my opinion, feel free to ask me. I'm at a point where I have too many nulls. These nulls make it hard for me to judge the active players.

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:00 pm If you all had to choose between the following five people for today's lynch, who would you vote for? Right now, I'm wavering between two of them, possibly a third.

-Fredwood
-Neverwhere
-Nutella
-Sprityo
-Tink

Tink.

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:36 pmDrWilgy: Other than agreeing with Nutella about Boo, what have you contributed that's been substantive? Lots of tangents and fluff.

opinions about timmer, boo, ddl and bullshit coasty gameplay? I just want to purdge the no shows.

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:24 am @DrWilgy, my list has changed. Quite drastically in fact due to 1/3 being dead. I would add DDL to the list since he is a prominent player in my opinion, And I would take off Dom since he has yet to appear. You are hesititantly on there still solely because I need 5-6 players but you haven't done anything spectacular to have me want to keep you there. I'll also add Nutella as a hesitant since she appears to be wanting to do the right thing but I'm not 100% sold on it. I think. This all coming without checking back on information is what I'd have my list at now. I'm keeping mac on the list since he has at least appeared and I'm interested in seeing what he does.

Finally, the original list I made, was for all the reasons I listed. Nothing more nothing less. Hence why you're now a hesitant instead of "lol cause he's a doctor"

I can understand chaos votes for the sake of chaos voting. Keeping things interesting with Mac. What I don't get are the two bolded parts.
1. Does DDL's prominence indicate to you general civviness? Do you agree with his thoughts and voice?
2. Wanting to do the right thing, or having the appearance of wanting to do the right thing? This is a blanket statement. What is the right thing, or why do you view Hazlenut's actions as such?

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:31 pm I wish Mac hadn't voted for Sprityo, because that's where I'm leaning right now.

Wilgy- of those five I listed, take Tink out. Who would be next after eliminating the barely-there participant?

Sprityo.

I like Neverwhere and Hazlenut this game so they are out. Fredwood I've been ignoring for the most part, idk why but his posts are in one ear out the next. I do know that he has plenty of content to analyze and can go back to him.

Why are our votes so spread out when we have someone still in the game who hasn't posted once?

Catching up now.

Everyone.

DOM IS STILL ALIVE

why are we voting for someone who has the potential to contribute as their vacation won't last forever? Explain it to me as if I'm 5.

A Dom flip does 2 very important things for us.
1. On flip, If civ, this validates that mafia may be amongst the ones preaching to purge low posters. On flip, if mafia, we can assume mafai aren't wanting to hit low posters.
2. We kill a wallflower, and won't have to deal with it later.

Assuming we gain no info from a wallflower purge is shallow.

QUICK DO I TIE THIS UP FOR SHITS AND GIGGLES?

Fuck it yolo

Fredwood wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:21 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:16 pm A Dom flip does 2 very important things for us.
1. On flip, If civ, this validates that mafia may be amongst the ones preaching to purge low posters. On flip, if mafia, we can assume mafai aren't wanting to hit low posters.
2. We kill a wallflower, and won't have to deal with it later.

Assuming we gain no info from a wallflower purge is shallow.

So you would rather vote him over Spirit? Are you scum leaning spirit as well?

I'd like to kill both really. I wouldn't mind if wildflower tink dies as well, but I think it's dumb that we are lynching people that are actually participating.

This tie is actually ideal!
1. We may kill one of my 2 top suspects
2. We may kill a non participant
3. We get to test tie mechanics more

Woo good shit!

Fredwood wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:39 pm Fucking A...So clears Tink...no way does Mafia save her over Spirit so I think they were a V/W wagon. Glad I at least moved my vote off her to at least give her the chance in a tie.

I'm taking a couple pings of G-Man because I think he was the first to vote Spirit post Macs Early vote. Though I don't want to town clear him fully yet, I think he fully knows if he votes Tink there and it's a town flip, his goose is cooked. However he did cast shade on Spirit early in the phase, so he's in my wary group.

Not sure what to do about Mac's vote, and the last time I gave voter credit for Nutella it came back to bite me in the ass.

Pretty sure I votes Sprit before Gman homie.

Good job Mac.

Mac plz.

Long Con was unable to bucket. What a sad way to go.

Who here still thinks Mac is bad?

Also, unless we had 2 mafia in the running for lynching last night (which I doubt), Eloh was right about Tink. This pings me, and what pings me is the soft voice she used while making this post.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:14 pm Why tink? Because she's quiet? I really think if you're civ, you ought to keep tink around. I doubt she is bad. She is on vacation too and very busy with water slides all day long like me.

The bolded portions do nothing but weaken her opinion on the matter, it's like she wanted to he committed to this claim but wasn't fully there.

I guess why this stands out, is because I fully expected either tink or eloh to die last night if they were both civilians.

Thoughts?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:12 am Quin has replaced Dom.

Thank god. Quin, you are a gentleman and a scholar.

I'm placing a vote on Eloh for now, chances are it'll change.

Womp womp.

I don't disagree with the fredwood suspicion and will probably be voting there myself, but this is turning out to be a boring day.

@Gman
1. Fredwood, the other 3 are unlikely
2. Eloh, followed by Dizzy (where did dizzy go?). Domoquin is interchangeable as they are still afk.
3. DDL

@DF, Eloh had pinged me towards the end of last cycle with the Tink claim. What were your thoughts on this?

I am somewhat made hesitant from Eloh taking the lead while I was away.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:00 pm Any way we could get a deadchat somewhere? That'd be cool.

Only if I'm the moderator.

In all actuality, you may want to directly PM Epi/Simon about this as I think they are still mobile bound.

@everyone, where the hell is Dizzy?

@Nutella, can you elaborate on your suspicion of DF? I see that it's through the interactions between him and Sprit, but I don't follow it.