The Syndicate

Well shit, sorry to Nutella who i accidentally lynched. Got confused about what that was.

Hello! Sorry I missed day 0. I'm not really sorry, I was at a theme park.

I haven't played a game here for a good few years and I was new back then, so I think this is going to take some time to get used to again, but I am excited to be a part of this I recognise a few faces/usernames.

Well shit, sorry to Nutella who i accidentally lynched. Got confused about what that was.

Hello! Sorry I missed day 0. I'm not really sorry, I was at a theme park.

I haven't played a game here for a good few years and I was new back then, so I think this is going to take some time to get used to again, but I am excited to be a part of this I recognise a few faces/usernames.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:17 am

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:59 am Well shit, sorry to Nutella who i accidentally lynched. Got confused about what that was.

I panicked for a second, but you only voted for nutella, didn't lynch her. And I think votes are changeable in this game.

You're going to hate me, can you explain the votes to me again? It's amazing how much I've forgotten in 2-3 years. So what is that vote for? Will there be another vote up for the lynch?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:24 am

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:20 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:17 am

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:59 am Well shit, sorry to Nutella who i accidentally lynched. Got confused about what that was.

I panicked for a second, but you only voted for nutella, didn't lynch her. And I think votes are changeable in this game.

You're going to hate me, can you explain the votes to me again? It's amazing how much I've forgotten in 2-3 years. So what is that vote for? Will there be another vote up for the lynch?

It is a vote for the lynch. But just a single vote.

At the deadline on the above poll, the player with the most votes will be lynched. You can change your vote at any time up till then. So it's not really something worth apologizing for. We'll all have votes on us at one point or another.

Thats what I thought it was Apologising because the vote was meant to be one that was pmed and I have no reason to lynch nutella as of yet, but i suppose on day 1 it's all guesswork anyway.

why Dom?

Sorry about that. Neverwhere is a she and just got confused between evo vote and lynch vote.

Apologies to nutella, but I really don't have much of a read on anyone yet.

Fredwood wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 3:53 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 3:51 pm

Fredwood wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 3:24 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 3:12 pm Coordinating is not game-breaking. Sorry Jack.

But I must disagree. Coordinating, even without confirmed results, still provides RESULTS. And that's what we want. We want evolutions to happen. We want Raichus and Venasaur and Charizard and whatever else, I haven't played pokemon.

Rather accurate, all are evolved pokemons.

Though I wouldn't even know if half this list evolved...Gen 1 purist

Technically, I've barely played to the first tourney in Pokémon yellow, so I guess I can agree. The heck is a Pichu, right?

A mountain in Peru?

Ten points for Gryffindor.

I haven't got a great read on anyone yet. Still trying to familiarise myself with the users/players. Day 1 doesn't really tell you much anyway.

Pm thyme.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:36 am

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:42 am I haven't got a great read on anyone yet. Still trying to familiarise myself with the users/players. Day 1 doesn't really tell you much anyway.

Pm thyme.

Nobody has a great read on anyone, to be fair. Those who say they do might be fooling you. We just try our best.

Nah, everyone's grasping at straws.

Can someone remind me how many votes you get for evo each night?

Just had a quick skim this morning. I haven't really had time to properly digest and will need another read through this afternoon me thinks.

Was focusing on boo/nutella there. I'm feeling pretty good about nutella at the moment and thought some of her points about boo had merit. I don't see anything wrong with nutellas plan to spread votes around. I don't understand why boo is getting so caught up with some of it.

I'm not familiar with the players in this game or their styles, so it's kind of hard to get a read on a lot of you.

Just had a quick skim this morning. I haven't really had time to properly digest and will need another read through this afternoon me thinks.

Was focusing on boo/nutella there. I'm feeling pretty good about nutella at the moment and thought some of her points about boo had merit. I don't see anything wrong with nutellas plan to spread votes around. I don't understand why boo is getting so caught up with some of it.

I'm not familiar with the players in this game or their styles, so it's kind of hard to get a read on a lot of you.

Also, mods, really sorry this is my second double post. I'm not sure why that's happening.

Yeah, I'm going with boo also.

Gman I take full responsibility for being lazy thus far. Struggling to get back into the mafia mindset as a newbie combined with a hand injury that has prevented me from being able to type.

Taking some notes at the moment so I'll hopefully be back later with some reads on people.

I just did a complete read through of everyones posts and now i can't move lol I cut my hand really bad/have some nerve damage and i just wore my codeine off typing.

I'll fill in more when i can type better later.

Out of your list, Gman I'd be most inclined to vote for Tink. Possibly Sprit yo. Not so sure about Fredwood.

Dr. Wigly pings me off a bit too. He seems helpful, but fishes for a lot of information and asks a lot of questions without giving much of his own opinion sometimes. I think he just reminds me a lot of me when I've been scum.

Also, im curious what everyone thinks of Gman since a few of you have said you were suspicious of him. I've only played one game on this site and that was two years ago. I'm having a hard time reading G because the one game I did play with him he played similarly to how he is now as far as i remember and he was civ in that game. I don't feel confident enough to say though.

I think Gman is looking pretty good to me right now. But G, your spreadsheet is incorrect. I missed the vote last night (fell asleep) but I voted for nutella the first day. I''m pretty sure last night lynch vote was the only one I've missed. I'm actually glad I missed it because I was leaning towards voting tink. I wasn't quite civ reading spirit was also feeling unsure.

I still don't feel good about tink. Maybe they are civ and just really don't give a shit. still. I'm curious as to what way they'd flip.

Need another read through newer posts. Can't really do much till the little girl is in bed later.

I think Gman is looking pretty good to me right now. But G, your spreadsheet is incorrect. I missed the vote last night (fell asleep) but I voted for nutella the first day. I''m pretty sure last night lynch vote was the only one I've missed. I'm actually glad I missed it because I was leaning towards voting tink. I wasn't quite civ reading spirit was also feeling unsure.

I still don't feel good about tink. Maybe they are civ and just really don't give a shit. still. I'm curious as to what way they'd flip.

Need another read through newer posts. Can't really do much till the little girl is in bed later.

Sorry little girl has been sick and I think I'm coming down with it too.

Just read through the last day. What the fuck? Really not liking the MacDougall attitude. Is name calling really necessary? Not really enough for a scum read though.

Fredwood doesn't seem so great after all of that backing and forthing either. Looking at my notes, he was someone I didn't really have a whole lot of an opinion on, so I'm definitely willing to have a think about him being scum.

I agree with Eloh as well Dr. Wilgy. I've had you on my radar as possibly mafia up to this point. I really didn't like Eloh's wording in that post. "I really think if you're civ you ought to keep Tink around. I doubt she's bad." I honestly don't understand how you could hold this attitude if you were civ. I don't have a good enough read on anyone to feel that way about them, nor as a civillian would I want to tie myself to someone like that or be so sure. I had a scum read on Tink before. What's the likelihood that Eloh and Tink are the remaining mafia members?

I feel stronger about Eloh than I do anyone else, even though Fred seems to be the popular choice today. I am going to put my vote on Eloh in case I do what I did last night and accidentally fall asleep before I get to vote.

Sorry little girl has been sick and I think I'm coming down with it too.

Just read through the last day. What the fuck? Really not liking the MacDougall attitude. Is name calling really necessary? Not really enough for a scum read though.

Fredwood doesn't seem so great after all of that backing and forthing either. Looking at my notes, he was someone I didn't really have a whole lot of an opinion on, so I'm definitely willing to have a think about him being scum.

I agree with Eloh as well Dr. Wilgy. I've had you on my radar as possibly mafia up to this point. I really didn't like Eloh's wording in that post. "I really think if you're civ you ought to keep Tink around. I doubt she's bad." I honestly don't understand how you could hold this attitude if you were civ. I don't have a good enough read on anyone to feel that way about them, nor as a civillian would I want to tie myself to someone like that or be so sure. I had a scum read on Tink before. What's the likelihood that Eloh and Tink are the remaining mafia members?

I feel stronger about Eloh than I do anyone else, even though Fred seems to be the popular choice today. I am going to put my vote on Eloh in case I do what I did last night and accidentally fall asleep before I get to vote.

Yeah, I'm really sorry guys, I was super excited to sign up for this game and then life got super busy the minute it started. Feeding the little girl and ill drink a cup of coffee to stay awake tonight.

I am 100% town. I think one of my struggles this game is a lot of my scum reads are turning out to be town. Genuinely thought Eloh could flip town. I've only ever really played as mafia. My first game on another site I was mafia, in OMERTA I was mafia. The last game i played here 2 years ago was my first town game but I ended up ending my relationship in the middle of the game and I had to bow out because of that. I think I'm trying to find my feet as civ. It's definitely much harder. Saying all of this could totally draw attention to me, but whatever, its the truth and im going to try harder.

I'd written up some notes on what I thought of players thus far and I'm going to try and go back to revise though.

If it's between Fredwood and me, I'm really not sure. I'm definitely civ and I'm not sure I have a great read on Fred. I genuinely don't know. I'd like to look more at the remaining users that weren't on any of Eloh's lists.

Yeah, I'm really sorry guys, I was super excited to sign up for this game and then life got super busy the minute it started. Feeding the little girl and ill drink a cup of coffee to stay awake tonight.

I am 100% town. I think one of my struggles this game is a lot of my scum reads are turning out to be town. Genuinely thought Eloh could flip town. I've only ever really played as mafia. My first game on another site I was mafia, in OMERTA I was mafia. The last game i played here 2 years ago was my first town game but I ended up ending my relationship in the middle of the game and I had to bow out because of that. I think I'm trying to find my feet as civ. It's definitely much harder. Saying all of this could totally draw attention to me, but whatever, its the truth and im going to try harder.

I'd written up some notes on what I thought of players thus far and I'm going to try and go back to revise though.

If it's between Fredwood and me, I'm really not sure. I'm definitely civ and I'm not sure I have a great read on Fred. I genuinely don't know. I'd like to look more at the remaining users that weren't on any of Eloh's lists.

Who the eff is dizzy?

Gman is a tough one. He's been the most helpful and other members aren't mentioning him as much.

Reading back over sprityos posts, the two people that stand out to me in that are Mac and Dfaraday. I have a bit of scum read on Mac. Dfaraday I wasn't sure, but there were a few posts where sprit seemed kind of defensive / asked a few times why he was on the chopping block without saying much more.

I'm torn between them but I really need to vote before bed.

Fuck it, I'm voting Mac. Sorry to spread the votes around.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2017 2:15 am I can't believe you guys lynched Fredwood. He was so obviously town.

For once, I actually agree with you. I did not get the Fredwood suspicion. When I get some time im going to go back and look into all the members who were gunning for him.

Hmm, I don't really know how to defend myself.

I am civ 100% That's all I can say. I am busy, but I am not using that as an excuse. Im a single parent, so any game i play from here on in I won't be able to be as mega active as maybe I'd like, that's just how it is.

Like I said, I am newer to mafia and particularly being civ so this game is a learning curve for me. Scum hunting is hard. I am maybe not as vocal or don't have a system down yet for working all of it out, but I am genuinely trying to ask the right questions and work it out.

My suspicions haven't always panned out, but that doesn't make me mafia. Very few of the civs in this game have had much luck.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:39 am

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:36 am Hmm, I don't really know how to defend myself.

I am civ 100% That's all I can say. I am busy, but I am not using that as an excuse. Im a single parent, so any game i play from here on in I won't be able to be as mega active as maybe I'd like, that's just how it is.

Like I said, I am newer to mafia and particularly being civ so this game is a learning curve for me. Scum hunting is hard. I am maybe not as vocal or don't have a system down yet for working all of it out, but I am genuinely trying to ask the right questions and work it out.

My suspicions haven't always panned out, but that doesn't make me mafia. Very few of the civs in this game have had much luck.

I totally hear you. I was just hoping you could point at something like "here's where I said something SUPER obvious townie" or "here's where I voted for sprityo" or ... something, anything where you can say ... would Mafia do this?

But that you can't ... is interesting anyway. That you answered me so earnestly despite voting for me last day phase is also something.

I get you! I don't have time to go back over my posts and find things to defend myself at the moment, but because I've been a quieter poster than some I thought it might be better to reply to your message as soon as I saw it. I can do so later if you would like.

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2017 5:35 pm

boo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:50 am Hey everyone. Try actually reading what la said before she died and go, "derp, lets obviously lynch DF now."

She did the work for you. And we still can't get it done? For real?

I still can't figure out who la is.

Nutella

Reading back over my own posts, I'm inclined to side with boo and say I'd be interested in a DFaraday lynch. I remember reading back through Sprityos posts Mac and DFaraday stood out as people sprit was possibly defensive of.

Yeah the fact the Faraday survived makes me want to lynch him again.

So I am not familiar with a lot of mafia yet. What could have happened that Faraday was saved last night?

Would this be indicative of him being civ or him being mafia and having the ability to save himself? Or him being mafia and a team member being able to save him?

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:07 pm Reading back over my own posts, I'm inclined to side with boo and say I'd be interested in a DFaraday lynch. I remember reading back through Sprityos posts Mac and DFaraday stood out as people sprit was possibly defensive of.

Sorry I had class till late yesterday and then woke up at 2.30 am and thought fuck I didn't vote.

Don't tell me I'm not commited. I got up in the middle of the night purely to vote and go back to sleep. lol

But yeah, my quoted post. Mainly this. I don't really have a whole lot to go on with anyone in this game. I have a feeling it has a lot to do with lower post counts.

Actually, Faraday being the independent would make a lot of sense in this situation. If he is in fact not mafia, I think someone is playing a really good fucking game. I need to re read everyone.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2017 5:19 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2017 4:26 pm It is also possible that DFaraday is either town or Mewtwo and also absorbed the night kill last night.

Is he immortal in your head Quin?

Why poking fun?

I am inclined to not vote Faraday again seeing as he's still insisting it won't do much good. I wonder if Quin is right and he's the unkillable indie.

I have said earlier in the game Wilgy pinged me too, although right now I couldn't give you examples off the top of my head other than what I said before about him fishing for information without giving much of an opinion himself. Im going to need to go back and re read him.

I can assure you, DFaraday, that I am most definitely not scum. And with numbers dwindling it would really really not be in civillians best interest to lynch me now. The scum slip you boldened was just a typo. I have ADHD and when I get typing like this, my brain gets ahead of my ability to type and i make all sorts of fucked up typos.

Really wasn't trying to lean *too* heavily on the newbie aspect, but I really had forgotten most everything of mafia, so I'm relearning. I'll keep that more to myself from now on.

I don't have time to read more now, because quite honestly, I have a dashing man waiting for me and a bottle of Pinot Grigio in the fridge.

I'll be back for some alcohol fueled mafiaing later.

In case I get too drunk, I'm putting my vote on Wilgy now.

I need to go ISO , but wasn't boo the one gunning for Faraday? It wouldn't make any sense if they were team mates.

I'm not mafia, i'm just really fucking busy. I'm sorry, my contribution to this game wasn't what I wanted it to be.

I'm feeling better about Wilgy, reading him more civ now.

Need to go back and ISO Faraday and Sprit.

Ok, so ISO DFaraday and Sprityo wound up being very interesting.

Sprityo claimed almost immidiately on night 1 to have a gut trust of DDL. Day 3 he has him on civ read and then proceeds to put DFaraday and DDL in a list on their own as civ reads and most prominent members following it up with rather lynching Dr Wilgy, boo, Quin, Dyslexicon, Eloh and Gman. Quite a long list and very suspect civ list. I felt like there was consistent defense of DDL.

DFaraday put DDL in civ list Day 0.
Night 2 was very defensive of Gman.

day 5 Gunning for Wilgy, mentions DDL in passing, possibly just to draw attention away from the fact he could be the remaining group member?

Day 7 -- Accuses myself and Wilgy quite strongly of being the remaining mafia members.

DFaraday defended Gman a lot and barely mentioned DDL.


After that, I feel like Gman and DDL stand out the most but out of the two I think Dragon D Luffy could be the remaining mafia member. Needto go back and ISO him next, but I think Id put my vote there.

DDL voting history makes him seem a little less suspect. Other than myself, Faraday and Gman voted Wilgy last night, so I'd feel pretty good with a Gman lynch.

Well, I did attempt some helpful posts. It would be more helpful if people could give me some feedback on them. I said pretty much similar to Gman. I like that DDL didn't even acknowledge them either.

I suppose that is just how useless everyone has been viewing me all game lol.

I'm putting my vote on DDL for now.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:31 am

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:00 am Well, I did attempt some helpful posts. It would be more helpful if people could give me some feedback on them. I said pretty much similar to Gman. I like that DDL didn't even acknowledge them either.

I suppose that is just how useless everyone has been viewing me all game lol.

I'm putting my vote on DDL for now.

I said that the last lynch made you look suspicious. That's it.

I shouldn't have to add a "but she made some helpful posts" every time I do that.

Specially since it's not hard for a baddie to do that. Sprityo and DF have made.a lot of helpful posts.

Ok, that's not what I was saying, but whatever. I wasn't looking for recognition, because that would be stupid. You accused me before I posted anything. I went back through the posts and commented on sprit and Faradays interactions or mentions of you. Gman did the same actually. Anyway, I feel pretty happy leaving my vote with you.

Hopefully people don't agree with you, cause it would be a bad move for civillians right now.

Also, we're talking about different things. Instead of in any way defending yourself, you're NO U ing. Badsville.

Most people have ignored me all game. I think it's a combination of not being known here (people have a better read on those who they have played with previously) and the fact I've not been as a high a poster as I have in previous games because I have a lot of commitments atm.

I voted for DFaraday the first lynch. I Was worried about an unkillable indie role situation that Quin mentioned and with the game so close to the end I wanted to look for another mafia member. At that point in the game there was 2 still out there. I was in no way opposed to voting Faraday nor was I avoiding it.

I've genuinely tried to scum hunt, i feel like I'm just getting into the swing of it now.

I really would like us to win this game, seeing as we're so close to the end and there's only one member left. I feel pretty confident in DDL.

I voted for Faraday the first time, I was not opposed to a Faraday lynch at all.

Also, if I were mafia this would be really shitty playing on my part. I went back and looked at the posts, I hadn't set out with intent to lynch anyone in particular,I just read the posts and looked at what they said. If I were mafia it would be pretty stupid of me to read your posts accusing me and then go after you so hard. That does nothing but draw attention to myself and make me look guilty.

If I were mafia it would make much more sense for me to post less, be subtle and go for someone other than you especially since no one really commented a whole lot on me after you made the posts accusing me.

It just doesn't make any sense. I am not the mafia.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:31 am

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:19 am I voted for Faraday the first time, I was not opposed to a Faraday lynch at all.

Also, if I were mafia this would be really shitty playing on my part. I went back and looked at the posts, I hadn't set out with intent to lynch anyone in particular,I just read the posts and looked at what they said. If I were mafia it would be pretty stupid of me to read your posts accusing me and then go after you so hard. That does nothing but draw attention to myself and make me look guilty.

If I were mafia it would make much more sense for me to post less, be subtle and go for someone other than you especially since no one really commented a whole lot on me after you made the posts accusing me.

It just doesn't make any sense. I am not the mafia.

That is a lot of wifom.

What is wifom?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:49 am

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:36 am

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:31 am

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:19 am I voted for Faraday the first time, I was not opposed to a Faraday lynch at all.

Also, if I were mafia this would be really shitty playing on my part. I went back and looked at the posts, I hadn't set out with intent to lynch anyone in particular,I just read the posts and looked at what they said. If I were mafia it would be pretty stupid of me to read your posts accusing me and then go after you so hard. That does nothing but draw attention to myself and make me look guilty.

If I were mafia it would make much more sense for me to post less, be subtle and go for someone other than you especially since no one really commented a whole lot on me after you made the posts accusing me.

It just doesn't make any sense. I am not the mafia.

That is a lot of wifom.

What is wifom?

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=WIFOM

Basically any argument based on "would I do this if I were bad". Its hard to believe because you could do it just to be able to say that.

Thanks for explanation A lot of the terms have been going over my head, gonna have to do some googling.

Well, I'm really not trying to do that. Lynch me if you must, but it won't be a good outcome for civillians.

Yup. Of course he was.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:18 pm Seriously though.

If Boo and Never are hellbent on voting only for me until I'm dead.

Then the civs are doomed.

Because all mafia has to do is spare me and one of Boo/Never (or both), and the last day is sealed.

Can you guys at least try to consider other options? Like, Never didn't even post today. She just voted for me silently. That isn't good civvie play in any universe.

Not good civ play, however definitely indicative of being civillian. I got a PM yesterday saying I was blocked from posting all day and that I was required to vote for you, DDL.

It's barely 5 am so i need to go back to sleep. I am out all day tomorrow but will post when i can.