The Syndicate

Didn't realize this was open. It's been a while since I've been able to claim. It feels good.

Remember mafia, God sees everything.

Made wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2017 4:57 pm Oh boi, it seems I am late to the party. I apologise graciously to the host, and wish all player luck and cheers!

I don't suppose the food is already cold?

It was some final guest who had been away at the ends of the earth and didn’t know that the party was over.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:29 pm Is this going to be a game of posting gimmicks? Cause I got nothin

Have you read The Great Gatsby by this man Fitzgerald?

Well, it’s a fine book, and everybody ought to read it.

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:12 am Here I thought I'd have a GAME to catch up on.

sigh. another game another gimmick from rico.

There was a slow pleasant movement in the air, scarcely a wind, promising a cool lovely day.
Before someone dies tonight...

Let's strike a little early. Wilgy, why are you town?

Made wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:47 pm You know, I've never actually had a martini! Thanks bloops <3

So I just had a metagame-y idea: Since info dumping and claiming are allowed, if we all use a "password" derived from our role name and posted them in thread early, a false role claim from mafia would be immediately be apparent.

Thoughts?

I hate the idea because the strategy seems cheap, and I don't think Mafia will have to worry about a small claim space. As we get to the late game, tactics like this become more important, but I always hate trying to break the game day 1.
That said, I won't fault anyone for doing it and I'll probably participate myself.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2017 2:43 pm
Made wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2017 2:16 pm Strategies like it have work for me in irl mafia, but regardless simmering the idea for the above reason.
As you can probably tell from my... inventive curses last game, I'm more concerned with having fun than winning. Massclaims are anti-fun. And also, yknow, fakeclaims. If I was the mod, I'd give them.

@Rico So now we've had the gimmick, the quotes, and the OMGUS.

Epi seems like the kind of guy who would give solid fake claims too, so I'm pretty sure mafia will be covered. I'm most suspicious of Made but in the spirit of fun I'm not lynching the same guy day 1 twice in a row. I'm good on Wilgy for now (literally picked you randomly off the list). I don't want to vote for Rico but I'd be fine with a lynch there. I won't lynch Speed or Dom. So that leaves me with a few options.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:17 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:28 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2017 2:43 pm
Made wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2017 2:16 pm Strategies like it have work for me in irl mafia, but regardless simmering the idea for the above reason.
As you can probably tell from my... inventive curses last game, I'm more concerned with having fun than winning. Massclaims are anti-fun. And also, yknow, fakeclaims. If I was the mod, I'd give them.

@Rico So now we've had the gimmick, the quotes, and the OMGUS.
Epi seems like the kind of guy who would give solid fake claims too, so I'm pretty sure mafia will be covered. I'm most suspicious of Made but in the spirit of fun I'm not lynching the same guy day 1 twice in a row. I'm good on Wilgy for now (literally picked you randomly off the list). I don't want to vote for Rico but I'd be fine with a lynch there. I won't lynch Speed or Dom. So that leaves me with a few options.
Are you bad? Did you get a role pm with an added fake claim? I cannot imagine epi would do this. I would think he'd leave it up to the creativity of the individual, scum or civ, to make up a fake claim to use. But...with you saying this, I'm thinking maybe he did give the baddies fake claims and you know this because you're one of them. Problem is...I don't have time to mull this over. I have to vote soon. Anyone here want to talk about this before I have to leave?

Fake claims have been a given in most of the games I've played like this and I would see Epi as following this. Maybe I'm wrong, and I'll leave you guys who know better to determine that.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:21 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:28 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2017 2:43 pm
Made wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2017 2:16 pm Strategies like it have work for me in irl mafia, but regardless simmering the idea for the above reason.
As you can probably tell from my... inventive curses last game, I'm more concerned with having fun than winning. Massclaims are anti-fun. And also, yknow, fakeclaims. If I was the mod, I'd give them.

@Rico So now we've had the gimmick, the quotes, and the OMGUS.
Epi seems like the kind of guy who would give solid fake claims too, so I'm pretty sure mafia will be covered. I'm most suspicious of Made but in the spirit of fun I'm not lynching the same guy day 1 twice in a row. I'm good on Wilgy for now (literally picked you randomly off the list). I don't want to vote for Rico but I'd be fine with a lynch there. I won't lynch Speed or Dom. So that leaves me with a few options.
Nice random voting
Random based on PoE?
Something smells scummy

Theres too many words
For this to be RVS
Why not Speed or Dom?

Your reasons against
Voting for some of the crew
Are not transparent.

But you'll RVS?
I understand it's day one
But your not balanced.

If you have reasons
To not vote some of us here,
You can not avoid

Having some reasons
To vote us for being scum.
Where is your reason?

I don't know what RVS is. I forgot what PoE is. I don't want to vote for Rico because I still think like if he's Maf he'll straighten up and try. I won't vote for Dom because I liked his posts and they seem like what I know to be townie Dom. I won't vote for Speed because he's taking logical positions and hasn't said anything that would make me doubt his towniness yet.
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DFaraday wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:47 pm I'm going to have severely limited internet until Sunday so I will randomly vote Made.

Im fifty fifty on this. Mafia probably wouldn't have voted, so that's one thing. But randomly voting for Made seems suspect.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2017 5:20 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2017 5:14 pm I don't know what RVS is. Random Voting Stage

I forgot what PoE is. Process of Elimination

I don't want to vote for Rico because I still think like if he's Maf he'll straighten up and try. No, don't you see? That would be a tell at this point! Rico has found a way to low-stress mafia and be completely unreadable, all because we let him. Until he starts to try every game again, this unfortunate precedent WILL be used for Rico to hide amidst the mafia. Third time's the charm, right? Enough precedent has been set that I'm legit worried now.

You are... right.

Take that, evil piano player!

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:05 am
Dom wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:34 am anyone care to explain why tsp can't be on rico's team?
IDK. TSP's responses around Rico were a little weird. I'm not as sue what it meant anymore.

Because if TSP and Rico were Maf together they could have lynched someone else, old chap. Even if it would make one of them look super scummy. Also, the TSP potential distancing campaign was literally 1 post and the rest was buddying. The Rico potential distancing campaign was nonexistent.

There definitely is a world where Rico and I are w/w, but this is not that world.

Willy, Boom- What's up? Who do you guys think is scum?
Non-voters last night- Are you guys around?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:26 pm Ok, no more haikus. I can't handle it anymore. Idk how the hell Rico posts in gimmick.

Here's what's up. I'm the 3rd party tie breaker. I can win with either civs or mafia, and I'm no one's enemy.

I was waiting until I lynched a mafia to say anything as a sign of good faith towards the civs. Luckily, that happened day one.

I do need to survive for awhile in order to achieve my win condition. I won't say what that is.

As a sign of good faith towards the scum, I will not be hunting from here on out. I will vote day to day in accordance to my independent win condition.

As of right now, I have submitted a random list for who takes priority in a tie. I will not change this list until I die. Speaking of which, I can manipulate ties post mortem. If I do happen to be lynched, I will side all ties in what I think is favorable to mafia. To the opposite, if I'm nk'd I'll side all ties in what I think is favorable to civs (you see how that went with Rico).

To keep myself involved in the game somewhat. I will answer the first 2 questions presented to me from 2 separate players each day phase. I will not share my win condition regardless of question.

Shall we have some fun?

Yeah, I wanted to put a book quote in every post but that takes way too much work.

1. Why'd you take out Rico Day 1?
2. Who are you?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:23 pm *shakes finger*

Nuh uh TSP. It's not daytime yet. ;-)

Do you know who is town and who is mafia?

Those were pretty standard mafia kills, unfortunate that they both had roles.
I still want to lynch Boom. But I might always want to lynch Boom. Waiting on Long Con to come around. Made, do you have any thoughts?

Mafia, God knows what you’ve been doing, everything you’ve been doing. You may fool me, but you can’t fool God!

Assuming 2 Maf left

Boomslang - could be Maf with
DrWilgy - Could be a very smart maf
Elohcin - could be Maf with LC or Boom
Long Con - could be Maf with Elo
Made - could be Maf with anyone
Neverwhere - could be Maf with anyone
TonyStarkPrime - town

Wilgy, I'll make sure you get your tie today but you have to call who's going to die before it happens.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:14 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:21 pm Assuming 2 Maf left

Boomslang - could be Maf with
DrWilgy - Could be a very smart maf
Elohcin - could be Maf with LC or Boom
Long Con - could be Maf with Elo
Made - could be Maf with anyone
Neverwhere - could be Maf with anyone
TonyStarkPrime - town

Wilgy, I'll make sure you get your tie today but you have to call who's going to die before it happens.
I like this plan, I also want to move forward with a Wilgy-test scenario.

I typed that, but then I thought about how it's a closed setup game, and a baddie extra vote would negatively implicate Wilgy. If Wilgy is tested and is wrong, do we then lynch him?

I think we wait for that situation when it comes up, but I don't think it will because reasons. I want to lynch Made today.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:06 pm Ok then. I'll vote Neverwhere, with the understanding that people will try to make this a tie.

However, with 7 of us here and Neverwhere not voting, I doubt Made will agree to allow a tie if he's the lynchee. Perhaps he can vote Neverwhere and Wilgy can direct the tie to Neverwhere this time.

I don't like this. If Made doesn't agree to a tie then he gets lynched. He would have to agree for it to work. There's no reason for Neverwhere to get lynched, he isn't doing anything.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:35 am Neverwhere is a SHE!!!!

Still learning.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:42 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2017 12:20 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:06 pm Ok then. I'll vote Neverwhere, with the understanding that people will try to make this a tie.

However, with 7 of us here and Neverwhere not voting, I doubt Made will agree to allow a tie if he's the lynchee. Perhaps he can vote Neverwhere and Wilgy can direct the tie to Neverwhere this time.
I don't like this. If Made doesn't agree to a tie then he gets lynched. He would have to agree for it to work. There's no reason for Neverwhere to get lynched, he isn't doing anything.
Ok, lay out the voting scenario for everyone to get on track.

7 players. 1 is Wilgy, two are being lynched. The other four divide into two groups. 2 vote for Made, two vote for Never. Made votes for Never. Wilgy votes for Made. Wilgy chooses who dies (or Never dies, I haven't figured out how the power works yet). If Made doesn't help, there are three votes on Made and he dies.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:11 pm Sluuuurmp.

Hmm... I think its understandable why I'm not super invested in this game.

Where the hell is everyone else.

Snooooooorefestamirite?

I think with this game no one wants to jump in and talk so there isn't a lot to bounce off of.

Okay, there are five left after tonight. I'm pretty sure Elo is town. If she isn't, she's fooled me. Made and Boom seem most likely but I'm not sure on it. I'm growing to be less sure on Wilgy, but we can't prove it necessarily untrue. I just find it unlikely that there would be two non-vanilla town roles and a non-vanilla neutral. LC is pinging me but not in a standard LC way.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2017 4:22 pm Okay, Ive been doing a lot of rereading and I think the mafia is either boom or tony. I think one of them is mafia and the other is civ.

- I tend to find wilgy geniune and only wish he were civ so he would help me out more in this instead of being so neutral.

- Made is not around.... hasn't been around in days (and nights). And yet, kills keep coming.

- Tony seems helpful in most of his posts even though they are few and far between. He didn't vote yesterday which is concerning to me. Tony...please explain why you didn't vote and why you were against testing wilgy.

-Boom has been here. Did he agree to kill blooper? And he was the one that implied there are still two mafia instead of just one left. Like he knew it was a fact.
Boomslang wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:36 pm Two things: TSP, you never specified who I could be Mafia with. And Elo, what do you mean by Made being alone? There's only one Mafia down... Unless you're forgetting to count yourself
What does this say about him. Makes me think he was mistaken and so Tony is the last mafia.
Boom...what say you about the number of mafia left in the game. Do you still think there are two?

Linki...yeah... I think Tony is our best bet afyer my reread.

I wanted to test Wilgy but I was concerned it wouldn't work out well. That said, I honestly thought I had voted for Made. It probably would have led to the same result, either 2-2 for Never or 2-3 the same way. I felt LC trying to get Wilgy to make sure Never died could be a Maf buddy steering away, which is why I suggested that. I voted for myself at the beginning of the day just to make sure that my phone was registering my vote.

I think two mafia left seems about right.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:24 pm Meaning, you and tony are the last two baddies, made and I are the last two civs, and wilgy is indi.

That would make a lot of sense wih this lack of baddie hunting going on. I feel like I'm talking to myself more than half the time.

If there are two left you can't clear Made.

How I expect this to work out:

TonyStarkPrime has been lynched. He was George Wilson, a vanilla civilian.

Made has been endgamed. He was Nick Carraway, a vanilla civilian.

Congratulations to our winners,

Elochin, Mayer Wolfsheim, a vanilla mafia member.

Boomslang, Owl Eyes, a vanilla mafia member.

Dr. Wilgy, Daisy Buchanan, a neutral with an alternate win condition.

Or something like that. I'm not sure on the details, and that's more my fault for not playing well this game. I wasn't around as much as I should have been and I didn't see this one through as I should have.

To note: Boomslang voted against Rico day 1 and since has only voted for people who turned out town.

Boomslang wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:35 am I know I'll never be trusted again after that Blooper kill. But then again, nobody trusts me anyway.

I never figured out why people were using this as a mafia clear as much as they were. I was at coin flip between Eloh and Made for last baddie, but accusing players who can respond could give leads. It's on me for not converting that. This game was lost by all of us townies who weren't Eloh, and I think the last two mafia knew how to convert that well.

Ricochet wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:40 pm We have a fair amount of couples playing here, so the idea that one player may not be so heartless as to advocate removing his/her life partner (especially right off the bat, i.e. Nights 1 or 2) may sometimes recur. I wouldn't mafia clear anyone based on this argument either, particularly since all these couples can be badass playing as mafia or trying anything while mafia. Tis the point of the game. But fwiw, Boom did not agree to kill Ninja without any heavy heart, but he did agree to its fair logic and proper timing, so that's that.

Over at the realms friends and family try to kill each other as soon as possible.

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