The Syndicate

Quin is in the title of this thread.

I'll take my cash prize in a lump sum, thanks.

I'm voting for Queensland because I have info that it will help the civ cause.

Let's see where that one leads us.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:07 pm That said, does anyone have any idea what this search function will accomplish? It definitely is intriguing but I'm not sure how it would affect the game or how we are supposed to contemplate making the decision.

Not sure. I suppose we will find out once Day 0 ends.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:10 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:09 pm
birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:08 pm I'm voting for Queensland because I have info that it will help the civ cause.

Let's see where that one leads us.

Intrigued. I'll follow you pending further developments, assuming votes are changeable for map votes.
Confirming that map votes are changeable.

They are.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:12 pm
birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:10 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:07 pm That said, does anyone have any idea what this search function will accomplish? It definitely is intriguing but I'm not sure how it would affect the game or how we are supposed to contemplate making the decision.
Not sure. I suppose we will find out once Day 0 ends.
So you're claiming Queensland is beneficial to the town cause but you're not sure how, do I have that right?

Yes. I figured I might as well say something since most Day 0 conversations aren't super meaningful and we can have something to go off of early on.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:17 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:15 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:13 pm Hm. I was going to guess NSW just because it's the most populous and thus most statistically likely for Quin to be in I guess? But there's already an info claim. How much do I want to trust that...
Why would someone of either alignment fake claim information?
I mean, he could be mafia and pretending the option that benefits his faction benefits the civ cause. You might be right though, probably Occam's Razor applies here.

What motivation would I have to lie with the third post in the game?

Since I was asked...

Epig strikes me as good for now. Only thing that makes me wonder is how he suspects MP for his large amounts of posting (which is pretty normal for him last time I checked), but then says his "friendliness always strikes me as false".

LC is....god knows what. I've given up on early reads on him.

As for my initial post, I'd rather get that kind of information out in the open early on and let people decide what they want to do with it. Some will believe me and some won't for sure. But it also helps start to generate some initial discussion when there is nothing to go off of.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 3:23 pm
birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 2:46 pm Since I was asked...

Epig strikes me as good for now. Only thing that makes me wonder is how he suspects MP for his large amounts of posting (which is pretty normal for him last time I checked), but then says his "friendliness always strikes me as false".

LC is....god knows what. I've given up on early reads on him.

As for my initial post, I'd rather get that kind of information out in the open early on and let people decide what they want to do with it. Some will believe me and some won't for sure. But it also helps start to generate some initial discussion when there is nothing to go off of.
Were you telling the truth?

Yep. Why would I lie about such a thing?

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:44 pm I felt like Epignosis' reactions were way more suspicious than my reaction to them. I don't understand why you ignore my points about his reactions and just vote for me instead.

How about this for a plan then? We lynch you today for your backtracking. If you flip civ, then we lynch Epig on Day 2 since he was clearly egging you on and trying to start something!

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:01 pm "Stop and ask for directions, bwt."

"Don't need 'em. I have the GPS."

That's just your opinion.

I found a great vacation home so it was worth it!

Well I'm still of the opinion that it's a neutral vs. neutral argument here.

Can you sum up in like 2-3 sentences why you think Epig could be bad while I go back and re-read?

These are the first 5 posts of how this whole thing started FWIW:

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:48 pm I'm not entirely sure I understand the Quin-searching thing, but I'll vote Queensland if that's the thing.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:51 pm I suspect MP for his gregarious posting.

I suspect LC for his comment above. Does anyone understand the Quin-searching thing? If he doesn't understand it, why is he voting for the trendy choice?

I suspect Quin will get destroyed next time too.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:09 pm Epi's trying too hard. Usually he's bad when he does that.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:10 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:09 pm Epi's trying too hard. Usually he's bad when he does that.
So I'm normally a lazy civilian?

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:11 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:10 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:09 pm Epi's trying too hard. Usually he's bad when he does that.
So I'm normally a lazy civilian?
Sorry, not falling for that.

That colors my opinion a bit more clearly looking back on how it started.

Since votes are changeable, I'm going to go ahead and put mine on Long Con for now. But since it's still early on Day 1, it's a very weak baddie read right now, but looking back at the initial start I feel like LC looks more bad than Epig.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:27 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:01 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:57 am With classic BWT style and grace. I don't like it.
Does anyone have a way I can get a meta on BWT?
Yeah.

I've known the guy now for over 10 years and he's my best friend. I introduced him to mafia about 6 years ago. Despite our familiarity, he's one of the best people at reading me and I was historically one of the worst at reading him. I mislynched him the first three games we ever played together despite being town alongside him two of those three games (used the other one as a convenient mislynch). When he started playing here, he became an often-mislynched player in general (like sig) and barely if ever made it to endgame without being lynched at some point (very occasionally NKed). Simply put, it's because he always plays fast and loose, tends to express his opinion as a function of previously discussed topics, and forms his thoughts with no regards to consistency.

Honestly it can be difficult for me to suss out when he's being mafia vs. town, but I'd generalize that while his meta is typically characterized by the following descriptors, he tends to be more inconsistent, gambit-driven, OT/jokey, and wacky as town than he is as bad. When he's bad, he forces his opinions to be just a bit more logically consistent and tries to not draw quite as much attention to himself. That's just based on my interpretation of years of playing with him though, and I tend to not try to rely too much on meta, but BWT is one of the rare players where I feel like meta is something that needs to be considered a bit more because he always brings the heat on himself. I try to use vote analysis and other methods to catch him as opposed to zooming in on supposed inconsistencies in his opinions (which I tend to focus on in general).

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:16 pm This is what I was going to say earlier, but did not have time, and I'm glad I didn't since people are talking about him.

I like birdwithteeth's early move. I don't believe 3J gave him information about the poll, and I think he lied about it.

But I think he did it just to do it and, just as he said was intention, get something going.

If bwt is bad and did this, knowing he would be exposed very quickly, that's a short-term gain, long-term loss, as they say, and I'm not even sure that it's a short-term gain at all, because unless he set this up so that his teammates could gain some early credibility, I don't see any positive outcome for him at all.

What I do see is a someone throwing something out there to see who will follow him, who will question him, and who will ignore him.

Nothing wrong with that.

Dingdingding! We have a winner!

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:27 pm
I might look into joining Sloonei in a DDL vote; I'll look back at DDL next. Not feeling MP's and Epi's suspicion of Sloonei; I'm seeing town behavior.

What do you see from sloonei that strikes you as civ behavior? I see a guy that made claims of a "bandwagon" against someone (LC) and used that to throw shade on someone else who made a bold, gutsy move early in an attempt to see what direction it made the winds blow (me).

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:39 pm
birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:36 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:27 pm
I might look into joining Sloonei in a DDL vote; I'll look back at DDL next. Not feeling MP's and Epi's suspicion of Sloonei; I'm seeing town behavior.
What do you see from sloonei that strikes you as civ behavior? I see a guy that made claims of a "bandwagon" against someone (LC) and used that to throw shade on someone else who made a bold, gutsy move early in an attempt to see what direction it made the winds blow (me).

Do you feel my suspicion against you is or was unwarranted?

I mean, I'm biased and disagree with it. But I also understand why I would take some flak for what I did for N0. I've already explained my reasoning for why I did it so I won't repeat it again. Whether you take it or leave it is up to you.

Alright. Glad I made it in time. Especially since I thought the poll ended at 8PM EST. Going to try and catch up and post some in the next hour.

Linki: Okay, make that 45 minutes.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:55 pm
birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:47 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:39 pm
birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:36 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:27 pm
I might look into joining Sloonei in a DDL vote; I'll look back at DDL next. Not feeling MP's and Epi's suspicion of Sloonei; I'm seeing town behavior.
What do you see from sloonei that strikes you as civ behavior? I see a guy that made claims of a "bandwagon" against someone (LC) and used that to throw shade on someone else who made a bold, gutsy move early in an attempt to see what direction it made the winds blow (me).

Do you feel my suspicion against you is or was unwarranted?
I mean, I'm biased and disagree with it. But I also understand why I would take some flak for what I did for N0. I've already explained my reasoning for why I did it so I won't repeat it again. Whether you take it or leave it is up to you.
But that wasn't the reason I expressed suspicion of you.

Then what was? Because I thought that was why you expressed your suspicion.

Linki: I mean, I can tell you how I feel about certain players at least. Not sure if I'll do a rainbow or not.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 1:32 am I don't know why I am even bothering to do this. I'm sure it's a serious personality flaw that I have that I'm compelled to do this.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 5:04 pm I'll try to keep this brief.

Spoiler: show
In Mass Effect, an evil independent LC kept calling me nervous. We've had this argument since, but I maintain that I was not nervous, but rather was gleeful that my little scheme to out a member of the mafia was working.

Yes, he'll remind you that I wasn't a civilian (True: I was at the time a neutral who could eventually side with either good or bad) and that he wasn't mafia (True, but he was last man standing, which is a role civilians need dead to win, and is therefore "bad").

My point is that LC framed my posts in such a way that supported his narrative (to get me lynched) rather than one to help the civilians (to get mafia lynched).
No.

Here's what happened, not what Epi's specially selected words choose to tell you. Epi was a complicated Indy who could go either way, and he had a fakeclaim from the host to use. He tells the thread his fakeclaim on Day 2, which I find weird. It made me suspect he was bad, and using a fakeclaim. He wants to spin it like I was some "evil independent" but what do you think my strategy was? Frame someone? I didn't have a team to work with, or for, what I needed was some level of credibility. I was trying to find baddies in as genuine a way as if I were a Civilian.

If you see similarities between that game and this one, then that makes sense enough to me, because my goal was to find baddies in both. In Mass Effect, I was right to go after Epignosis because he, as predicted, joined the baddies. Listen to me again for the first time, here in this game, maybe I'm right again.

Spoiler: show
In Blue Velvet, LC was bad, I was good, and we had a back and forth on Mass Effect. Here is LC's big, misleading post about me.
That was an awesome meta case, thanks for linking it. It has no similarities to this game though. It seems you just brought it up because it's an instance where I made a case against you... that doesn't really make the cut for doing anything to prove your point here.

Spoiler: show
In Night Vale, Long Con and I were both bad- teammates even. What does he resort to?

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:15 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:46 pm I look nervous to you, LC?
The line I referenced looks like textbook nervousness... it's not a general thing with all your posts or anything, but come on - you read that line and tell me I'm wrong.
I recall seeing this and rolling my eyes. "Not this 'nervous' bullshit again. Were I not on LC's team, I would have crucified him for it.
FALSE. This is a bogus entry, because I wasn't in any way making a case on Jack. I was laughing at how his post read to me. Try this link to see THE ENTIRETY of the exchange. As in, I wasn't pursuing it as any form of case at all. Epi's attempt to make you believe otherwise is deception.

Long Con's evil M.O. when he is bad is to cavalierly control the narrative to the point of outright making things up and sticking to them even when proof is presented to the contrary. He would make an admirable politician.
Where has that even happened in this game? What proof? What are you talking about?

I'm really disappointed in the players who praised this case as a good one. It doesn't make sense, and proving that didn't take a lot of reading through the links.

That's why I don't buy for a second his insistence that what he has been trying to sell as a joke was a joke.
Despite evidence to the contrary.

I've learned a long time ago to never look at previous game history to judge someone's actions in a current game. I feel like there's too much subjective data involved, as well as the fact that an individual could (hypothetically) play a slightly different style from game to game. So you quoting past history makes me feel slightly worse about you because I just don't think it's a very good argument/defense.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:02 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:17 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:58 pm
The meta BWT stuff has only moved him up to a null read for me. I'm not buying that he is town just because of the N0 info lie thing. That won't cut it for me. I can see either motive for it.
Walk me through either motive that you can see.
Event: BWT lies about having info on night one. That's literally all that happened.

Town motive: Give people something to talk about, get discussion going, etc. Doesn't mind having any suspicions thrown his way over it, after all, it is night zero, and this is purely a mechanical bit that will make him look good for being bold. A better lynch might come out of the discussion.

Scum motive: Give people something to talk about, get discussion going, etc. Doesn't mind having any suspicions thrown his way over it, after all, it is night zero, and this is purely a mechanical bit that will make him look good for being bold. A different lynch might come out of the discussion.

Scum likes people to talk, make cases, and get to the lynchy bits. So long as scum it's getting lynched. I see nothing alignment indicative here. Along with the meta-read of BWT just ruining my case on him, I've placed him at null.

We must have played in different mafia universes. I have never seen scum want to make people talk that often. Usually they want to sow the seeds of chaos to keep people confused and unable to find grounding.

Not seeing the logic of this train of thought here.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:06 am Long Con is accusing Epi of the same thing I argued for last night; he is deliberately misconstruing facts to fit his argument. If this is a legitimate accusation then it is not a good look for Epi. However, I did not necessarily feel that he was doing it in a sinister way against me last night (though his underwhelming response doesn't inspire much confidence), and I also still do not have enough trust in Long Con to side with him definitively in their back and forth. Also, sanmateo presented a similar, though less extreme, interpretation of my behavior as Epi did last night, so it's possible I've come off a bit shadier than I believe.

Does anybody else get the sense that Epi is being intentionally deceptive in his arguments?

I mean, it's certainly possible. I just have such a hard time reading LC that it still makes me lean more towards it being a civ vs. civ duke-out here. I'm slightly suspicious of both of them, but I'm starting to feel like it's not enough to warrant a D1 vote.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:35 pm I'm curious: Where do you come from, @NewTraditionalist ?

Epi, do you still suspect me? Ever gonna follow through and elaborate why?

I feel like the day is going in circles, and I don't like that. Votes are spread, and I don't like that. I don't have anything with me to eat, and I don't like that.

Worst of all, though, I don't really have any town reads. This never happens. I usually just bandwagon on with a townie for the wins. Uhhhh.... Leaning toward voting Epi or LC, for info and thread-clearing clarify and decent odds that one of them are scum.

So you go from sloonei and Epig being town reads to no town reads at all? Really?

Switches vote to speedchuck

You've had an inconsistent logic fail, and now this. That's enough for me to move my vote.

I'm sticking with my vote fwiw.

F**k you MP. Fine, I'll do a rainbow read even though I don't care for these things.

Moderate Town:
MP
BWT

Slight Town:
Epig
Sloonei
SD

Null:
Dom
DDL
Wilgy
NewTraditionalist
Nutella[
sanmateo
Serge/b]

Slight Scum:
LC

Moderate Scum:
speedchuck

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:44 pm Yeah, this isn't good. speedchuck getting lynched because he looks inconsistent? That's what mafia do? Look inconsistent on Day 1? Fuck outta here.

If you're going to go that far, you could use the same argument for me on most of my D1 lynches.

And as I stated in my opinion, there's more to it to me than just being inconsistent.

Well crap. That's not good.

I'm going with C just because a town named Wagga Wagga made me laugh enough to pick it.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:56 pm also holy shit the worst role to lose wow great job everybody

We don't know all the roles, so how is that the worst one to lose?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:05 pm
birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:59 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:56 pm also holy shit the worst role to lose wow great job everybody
We don't know all the roles, so how is that the worst one to lose?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:59 pm And how do you know that is the worst role to lose?

I think it' pretty common for civilians to think the cop is the most informative role they've got on their side. Come on guys.

How is his role the cop role? To me, a cop and a detective are two different things. I thought LC was a detective.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:11 pm Epi. Get real. He had three abilities that were basically limited disco and a vig kill. You are playing semantics.

Linki: Same to you bwt.

Just because one of the aspects of the role is a cop phase does not a cop make.

And yes, we are playing semantics. But isn't that part of what mafia is about?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:59 pm I'm not bad. But if you all feel like lynching me tomorrow I'm not fighting it. I've got a lot on my plate. But if you're civ, it will only be a loss to you. If you're bad, well it gets you a step closer to a win, but I'm totally vanilla so it won't accomplish much as far as getting rid of any other power roles. Whatever man.

Why the change in attitude all of a sudden? It feels like you're just giving up.

RIP Wilgy, you wild and crazy SOB you.

I'm kind of lost in terms of who to look at right now. And I won't be super active this phase due to my work schedule, but I will do what I can.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Sep 09, 2017 11:24 pm My advice is to lynch someone who looked too clean Day 1. Several people fit that description.

While that could certainly be a good thing to look at, to play Devil's Advocate, couldn't this be viewed as you trying to move attention away from yourself? It's not like you weren't put under the microscope to a certain degree on D1.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:47 am
birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:46 am RIP Wilgy, you wild and crazy SOB you.

I'm kind of lost in terms of who to look at right now. And I won't be super active this phase due to my work schedule, but I will do what I can.
What is your impression of MP?

I had him as a town read earlier. But he has fallen off the grid a bit, probably due to PhD stuff. So it's a bit murkier right now until he comes back and catches up on more recent events. So my read on him has dropped to somewhere in the slight town to null read.

I think what is throwing me off is Wilgy swtiching the lynch at the last second to LC, and then both LC and Wilgy being revealed to be civ. As well as confirming how many times I associate Wilgy as a mafia player who plays fast and loose. So I'm hoping I can get my grounding here again soon.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:03 am
birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:59 am I think what is throwing me off is Wilgy swtiching the lynch at the last second to LC, and then both LC and Wilgy being revealed to be civ. As well as confirming how many times I associate Wilgy as a mafia player who plays fast and loose. So I'm hoping I can get my grounding here again soon.
What are your initial ungrounded thoughts on this?

Well we know now that they're both civs, so I'm not sure if it really tells us anything else that is useful. Do you have any thoughts on it?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:56 pm
birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:47 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Sep 09, 2017 11:24 pm My advice is to lynch someone who looked too clean Day 1. Several people fit that description.
While that could certainly be a good thing to look at, to play Devil's Advocate, couldn't this be viewed as you trying to move attention away from yourself? It's not like you weren't put under the microscope to a certain degree on D1.
I am always baffled when people say, "You're just trying to move attention away from yourself."

Anything someone says other than, "Hey guys, you should pay attention to me" can be construed to mean "I'm just trying to move attention away from myself."

It's an empty thing to say. People will pay attention to whatever they want to pay attention to.

Fair enough then. Just poking around as the opportunities arise.

Are there any "clean" players you are looking at in particular for today?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:41 am BWT's ISO:
Lies about having info for N1 poll, claims that it was to start conversation
Reads Epi as good, Long Con as ???
Suggests a plan to lynch LC, and then if LC flips good, lynch Epi. Then comments that he thinks it's neutral/neutral (town/town). Could have been a joke.
BWT re-quotes the first 5 posts of the LC/Epig thing, then votes LC. Claims that reading it again influenced his opinion. Still claims his vote is weak. Combo of over-justifying his vote yet with no substance and claiming his read was weak as he votes.
Reads Sloon as questionable for moving off of LC and "throwing shade" on BWT for his N0 infoclaim. Backs off a bit when questioned.
BWT doesn't trust arguments that involve previous game history. He replies to LC and says it strengthens his suspicion of LC. Even though Epig was the one who brough up the argument in the fist place.
Disagrees with my mafia philosophy. But then again, most people probably do.
BWT pulls back again on his LC v Epi read, again suggests that it's civ v civ. "starting to feel like it's not enough to warrant a D1 vote."
Votes for me because of an inconsistency with my town reads, and because disagreeing with my mafia philosophy is a "logic fail." Neither of these make sense as scum moves, and one of them is VASTLY hypocritical.
Read list:
-Moderate Town: MP BWT
-Slight Town: Epig Sloonei SD
-Null: Dom DDL Wilgy NewTraditionalist Nutella sanmateo Serge
-Slight Scum: LC
-Moderate Scum: speedchuck
Showing that I am suddenly in the pits, and that BWT is once again taking sides on the LC v Epi thing.
When epi defends my inconsistency, BWT points out that he's been lynched D1 as town for the same. (Wut? How is this ... agh) and then claims there's more to my read than inconcistency, citing something he apparently said (he said nothing other than inconsistency.)
Votes C in the night poll.
Pressures Nutella for saying that LC was the worst role to lose. Epi joins in. I don't understand why. Like, what. LC's role was super powerful, and this game only has 3 power roles at most. I think.
Defends this semantical anal argument after it's been going on for several posts.
Puts a tiny bit of pressure on SpaceDaisy for "giving up" in her "I don't have time for this crap" post.
Claims that he is lost as to who to look for.
Puts suspicion on Epi for advising that town look at someone that looks clean. "This draws attention away from you"
Opinion of MP is murky because of... inactivity. Null.
Still claims again to be ungrounded because of wilgy's switch lynch. Not sure how that follows. When questioned on this, he shrugs hard.

I'm going to do more of these like this, and then see how I feel about it. For now, I'm more confused by BWT's play than suspicious of it. Still suspicious though.

I have to leave for work. I will try to be back to make a quick post and vote before EoD but no guarantees I will be able to. I apologize in advance if this happens.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:11 pm
Pls, @everyone, what do you think of my case on spacedaisy?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:34 pm Isn't it just possible that sanmateo was latching on me because he wanted to have someone he could vote for over and over so péople thought he was scumhunting when he wasn't?

Someone who gets suspected by a lot of people often so that wouldn't draw much attention to him?

Not really. If that was his strategy, it's also just as likely that he could end up being accused of tunneling. And that one usually never ends well if the person is wrong.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:43 pm I have a more important question:

What are we going to do with Quin once we find him?

Spike his drink?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:49 pm
birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:46 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:43 pm I have a more important question:

What are we going to do with Quin once we find him?
Spike his drink?
Or give him another sausage sandwich.

That was the clue that should have taken us to New South Wales in the first place.

Fine by me. Who's on the top, middle, and bottom between the 3 of us then?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:54 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:39 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:34 pm Isn't it just possible that sanmateo was latching on me because he wanted to have someone he could vote for over and over so péople thought he was scumhunting when he wasn't?

Someone who gets suspected by a lot of people often so that wouldn't draw much attention to him?
Why didn't it occur to you to say this when he started trying to get you lynched?
Because I didn't think of it at the time?

I am not constantly analysing every possible motivation for every person who accuses me.

The only way I don't see that occurring is if you are connected.

Isn't that the point of what mafia is about?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:38 am
birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:45 pm I'm sticking with my vote fwiw.

F**k you MP. Fine, I'll do a rainbow read even though I don't care for these things.

Moderate Town:
MP
BWT
Sloonei

Slight Town:
SD

Null:
Dom
Wilgy
NewTraditionalist
Nutella[
sanmateo/b]

Slight Scum:
Serge

Moderate Scum:
DDL

The Toothed Bird gave us this rainbow on Day 1. I'm interested to hear how those neutrals have shaken out since.

I think that's everyone.

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