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by Quin
Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:26 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Pirate Mafia [END GAME]
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Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 0]

Kylemii wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:40 pm Let's goooooo.

Hat. Obviously.

Peg leg and eyepatch are a sign of what you've lost, but a fancy hat is a sign of wealth and status.
Ye be the worst kind of pirate. Being a pirate is about loyalty and sacrifice, and I've got a peg leg with yer name on it.
by Quin
Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:02 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Pirate Mafia [END GAME]
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Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 0]

sig wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:50 pm Tequila really sucks 4/10 wouldn't recommend.

Second Hey! Lets get this lynch train started. :srsnod:

I think we should eye people who are to heavy on the role play, it could be used to avoid scumhunting/be left alive out of amusement. However, that shouldn't be the only reason to lynch someone.
I think you should have said that after the people worth eyeing had already shown themselves :pout:
by Quin
Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:50 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Pirate Mafia [END GAME]
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Views: 28671

Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 0]

MovingPictures07 wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:24 pm
Quin wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:02 pm
sig wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:50 pm Tequila really sucks 4/10 wouldn't recommend.

Second Hey! Lets get this lynch train started. :srsnod:

I think we should eye people who are to heavy on the role play, it could be used to avoid scumhunting/be left alive out of amusement. However, that shouldn't be the only reason to lynch someone.
I think you should have said that after the people worth eyeing had already shown themselves :pout:
Looking back, I’m not sure what to make of this post. I came to the same conclusion as Quin did here, but I don’t feel like Quin does anything with it. It’s like Quin just made an observation but didn’t use it as the basis for developing a read on sig.
I have a habit of tunneling on sig because he sets off my alarms too easily. I wasn't going to go down that path 5 hours into Day 0. As far as I'm concerned its NAI.
by Quin
Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:52 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Pirate Mafia [END GAME]
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Views: 28671

Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

And I don't know what any of you are talking about, because no lynch is objectively a good strategy.

linki: yeah dogs are gross
by Quin
Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:56 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Pirate Mafia [END GAME]
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Views: 28671

Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

speedchuck wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:55 pm
Quin wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:52 pm And I don't know what any of you are talking about, because no lynch is objectively a good strategy.
For the reasons that I outlines, or for some other nebulous non-scientific reasons? :shifty:
100% nebulous non-scientific reasons.
by Quin
Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:04 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Pirate Mafia [END GAME]
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Views: 28671

Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:02 pm A no lynch is a terrible strategy 95% of the time

Fight me.
ill bash ye fookin ead in i sware on me mum
by Quin
Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:10 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Pirate Mafia [END GAME]
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Views: 28671

Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

speedchuck wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:45 pm 1 little, 2 little, 3 little MP posts
4 little, 5 little, 6 little MP posts

Actually, a no lynch gives town some time to get free info if there is an info role. Quick math:

No lynch:
D1: 10 players
D2: 9 Players
D3: 7 Players
D4: 5 Players
D5: 3 Players (LYLO if 1 scum)
D6: Scum overrun if we get here and game isn't over.

Lynch on D1:
D1: 10 Players
D2: 8 Players
D3: 6 Players
D4: 4 Players (MYLO if one scum)
D5: 2 Players Scum overrun if we get here and game isn't over.

So in each case, ignoring D1 on the no-lynch side, town gets the same number of days to try and lynch the scummers. No matter how many scum there are. For every scum, take off a day's worth o' time. See how it works? An' the No Lynch D1 gives townies more info on their allotted lynch days.

HOWEVER!

This only works perfect if'n we got no doctors, vigs, or scumblockers. So I'm more inclined to lynch a scallywag on the bright and early day.
Long Con, what say ye ta that?

Shiver me timbers if'n I ain't about to throw a vote on me swabbie Dunya, fer the brine'd do 'im good I reckon!

linki: I am a cat. I swat at people until they respond, and then run away.
I kid. I have no idea what my gameplay style is. I've been told it's analytical, with a lot of chewing over motive and vote placement.
I'll throw this landlubber some early townie points for this. Savor them, you dog.
by Quin
Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:16 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Pirate Mafia [END GAME]
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Views: 28671

Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

Yeah, you tell him! :srsnod:
by Quin
Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:21 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Pirate Mafia [END GAME]
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Views: 28671

Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 0]

dunya wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:15 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:24 pm
Quin wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:02 pm
sig wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:50 pm Tequila really sucks 4/10 wouldn't recommend.

Second Hey! Lets get this lynch train started. :srsnod:

I think we should eye people who are to heavy on the role play, it could be used to avoid scumhunting/be left alive out of amusement. However, that shouldn't be the only reason to lynch someone.
I think you should have said that after the people worth eyeing had already shown themselves :pout:
Looking back, I’m not sure what to make of this post. I came to the same conclusion as Quin did here, but I don’t feel like Quin does anything with it. It’s like Quin just made an observation but didn’t use it as the basis for developing a read on sig.
Explain yerself here, mate. From where I'm standing, I think you're asking for the moon and stars and then some. Least Quin said something yesterday, you didn't.
I did call him sig out though, so I don't think its unreasonable of MP to assume that I had some beef with what he said.
by Quin
Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:21 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Pirate Mafia [END GAME]
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Views: 28671

Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

I don't even know enough dog breeds to label myself. I like huskies.
by Quin
Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:27 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Pirate Mafia [END GAME]
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Views: 28671

Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

Kylemii wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:24 pm
Quin wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:21 pm I don't even know enough dog breeds to label myself. I like huskies.
That doesn't really answer the question. Can you tell me about your gameplay? What's your typical MO?
It was once described as a whirlpool of interrogation. Nobody is safe.
by Quin
Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:28 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Pirate Mafia [END GAME]
Replies: 1531
Views: 28671

Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

Asking me about my own MO isn't the best way to go about it, methinks. I do what I want, others may see a meta in there somewhere.
by Quin
Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:29 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Pirate Mafia [END GAME]
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Views: 28671

Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

dunya wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:23 pm Maybe you were waiting for sig to reply.

Maybe it was a rhetoric.

Maybe you were thinking out loud.

Maybe you had to go take a shit.

Maybe you went to sleep.

Maybe you went fishing.

All options possible.
I can guarantee that with the aftermath of the large quantity of sour worms I consumed yesterday, I definitely had to go take a shit.
by Quin
Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:38 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Pirate Mafia [END GAME]
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Views: 28671

Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

speedchuck wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:33 pm
Quin wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:28 pm I do what I want
Quin's meta in a nutshell
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by Quin
Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:21 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Pirate Mafia [END GAME]
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Views: 28671

Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

discussion of no lynching is a great way to bring early content into the thread though.
by Quin
Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:35 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Pirate Mafia [END GAME]
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Views: 28671

Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

dunya wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:22 pm
Quin wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:21 pm discussion of no lynching is a great way to bring early content into the thread though.
also puts LC in a good light for me.
+1
by Quin
Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:54 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Pirate Mafia [END GAME]
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Views: 28671

Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

sig wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:43 pm I disagree that it makes LC look good it's a ping. I'm also wary of MP, but that's mainly a gut thing.
Why does LC's no lynch talk ping you? What do you think of everyone else who discussed it (me)?
by Quin
Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:18 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Pirate Mafia [END GAME]
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Views: 28671

Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

sig wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:10 am I know it sounds silly, but you seem to townie at the moment. Kind of like how you acted in Scrimmage mafia.

So I'm of two mind with Speed, one his post that LC pointed out was a fillerish post, however he posted it very early and was stating his view on no lynches so it was useful insight. So it could have just been a mafia member posting to look involved, but it felt like he was genuine in trying to state his view. In fact after thinking it over this makes me more suspicious of LC, I feel like he could be fishing for potential bandwagons. However, it usually takes me a few phases to get a good read on LC. Maybe by night 2 or 3 I'll have a better feeling.

Right now I'd rather lynch a player who isn't contributing then someone who is, unless we have a strong reason to suspect they're mafia, and I'm not seeing anything very obvious yet.

Also and I should've brought this up sooner, but If we have a cop and they get a red check I suggest they role claim immediately, with only 3 mafia members sacrificing the cop to get a mafia member is worth it, also other civs should take advantage of role claiming if they have useful information that will catch mafia members, AND I CAN'T STRESS THIS ENOUGH AS A CIV DONT FAKE CLAIM COP!!!!!!!!!!

@Long Con What do you think of me? And can you go a bit more in-depth on your Scum reading for Speedchuck?
I'm going to claim cop tomorrow just to spite you.
by Quin
Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:19 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Pirate Mafia [END GAME]
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Views: 28671

Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

btw im engrossed in final fantasy xiv these days so rip me a new one in thread if i suddenly drop off the face of the earth.
by Quin
Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:52 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Pirate Mafia [END GAME]
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Views: 28671

Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:45 am Btw, can anyone explain me the matrix format of the roles that is in the first post? The host picked a random row? Or a random column?

I tried to look for that mafia champions scrimmage we had since I recall it using a similar system but I couldn't find it anywhere in the museum.
If I remember right, it's based off of the sock games that MP hosts. The most recent one was Seinfeld.

All of the numbers and letters refer to a set of 3 power roles and x number of vanilla civilians (x being however many people are leftover after giving out power roles - in this case, 9). The roles that are in this game are decided ?randomly? between A, B, C, D, 1, 2, 3 and 4. For example, in this game with 12 players, if Sloonei is using the '3' roster, the power roles in this game are a 1-shot ninja, a town watcher, a town jailkeeper, and 9 vanilla civilians.

As an aside, if we get a power role flip, we can use PoE to figure out what the rest of the power roles are. This'll be easier depending on whether all roles flip or not though.
by Quin
Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:43 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Pirate Mafia [END GAME]
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Views: 28671

Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

Kylemii wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:36 pm Quin, would you please tell me what you think of LC?

LC, can you please tell me your thoughts on Quin?

Thank you.
He's unlikely to get my vote today.
by Quin
Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:48 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Pirate Mafia [END GAME]
Replies: 1531
Views: 28671

Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

[mention]Sloonei[/mention] do all roles flip in this game, or just lynches?
by Quin
Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:50 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Pirate Mafia [END GAME]
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Views: 28671

Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

speedchuck wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:52 pm 3 minutes later:

Nah, DDL's good. I'm going to vote to make Sig our first wagon of the day.
Why is DDL good?
by Quin
Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:57 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Pirate Mafia [END GAME]
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Views: 28671

Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:05 pm
dunya wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:48 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:27 pm
speedchuck wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:15 am
sig wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:10 am Right now I'd rather lynch a player who isn't contributing then someone who is, unless we have a strong reason to suspect they're mafia, and I'm not seeing anything very obvious yet.

Also and I should've brought this up sooner, but If we have a cop and they get a red check I suggest they role claim immediately, with only 3 mafia members sacrificing the cop to get a mafia member is worth it, also other civs should take advantage of role claiming if they have useful information that will catch mafia members, AND I CAN'T STRESS THIS ENOUGH AS A CIV DONT FAKE CLAIM COP!!!!!!!!!!
Hello this is cop. XD

We have a three day D1. I don't like you pushing toward a non-contributer with such a hefty timeframe. Look at the reads in the thread. We have plenty of time to find a scummy swabbie today.
Why the hell did you just claim?
AND I CAN'T STRESS THIS ENOUGH AS A CIV DONT FAKE CLAIM COP!!!!!!!!!!
That was fake?

What the hell?
What is this reaction? :noble:
by Quin
Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:01 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Pirate Mafia [END GAME]
Replies: 1531
Views: 28671

Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

I don't know yet, sig. It's weirdly exaggerated read out loud. Yes, I said 'weird'.
by Quin
Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:03 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Pirate Mafia [END GAME]
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Views: 28671

Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

speedchuck wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:00 pm
Quin wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:50 pm
speedchuck wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:52 pm 3 minutes later:

Nah, DDL's good. I'm going to vote to make Sig our first wagon of the day.
Why is DDL good?
Check his ISO. He's been very straightforward, unafraid to say what he thinks. Each directed question pushes people in a specific way that puts pressure on them. I agree with his way of looking at things. From what little I've seen, DDL isn't someone I want lynched D1 this game.

He's not confirmed town or anything. I'm just not wanting to lynch him

linki: good question

linki'd again, but I'm going to go ahead and post.
His straight-forwardness is something I'm used to from town DDL (though I haven't seen scum DDL yet). It keeps himself in the spotlight, which in itself isn't something I'd readily expect from a baddie.
by Quin
Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:05 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Pirate Mafia [END GAME]
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Views: 28671

Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

He's had his finger in everybody's pie.

That's my pie, paws off.
by Quin
Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:07 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Pirate Mafia [END GAME]
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Views: 28671

Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

Quin wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:03 pm
speedchuck wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:00 pm
Quin wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:50 pm
speedchuck wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:52 pm 3 minutes later:

Nah, DDL's good. I'm going to vote to make Sig our first wagon of the day.
Why is DDL good?
Check his ISO. He's been very straightforward, unafraid to say what he thinks. Each directed question pushes people in a specific way that puts pressure on them. I agree with his way of looking at things. From what little I've seen, DDL isn't someone I want lynched D1 this game.

He's not confirmed town or anything. I'm just not wanting to lynch him

linki: good question

linki'd again, but I'm going to go ahead and post.
His straight-forwardness is something I'm used to from town DDL (though I haven't seen scum DDL yet). It keeps himself in the spotlight, which in itself isn't something I'd readily expect from a baddie.
Actually, I think I have seen scum DDL once. He died Day 1 though. I remember him being more absent than he is here. [mention]Dragon D. Luffy[/mention], any idea which game I'm talking about? I want to fact check.
by Quin
Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:27 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Pirate Mafia [END GAME]
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Views: 28671

Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

Fake claiming provides decent cover for the real role to provide information, as far as I'm concerned. All parties just have to be smart about it, or yes, there will be a mess.

I don't suggest roles with ambiguous results out themselves ever.
by Quin
Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:31 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Pirate Mafia [END GAME]
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Views: 28671

Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

Even though role claiming is typically not allowed, this time it's a tool by design. I suggest tabling the anti-role claiming prejudice mindset for a bit.
by Quin
Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:37 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Pirate Mafia [END GAME]
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Views: 28671

Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

sig wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:31 pm
Long Con wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:11 pm
sig wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:00 pmlinki: LC you're doing to me what you always do as scum making small things that have no real weight into big issues. :llama:
That's #fakenews that I "always do that as scum". :disappoint:
My "side step" had to do with you commenting that I mixed up "your" and "You're" how is that in anyway a side step when it doesn't refer to something that has any value? Just like your grammar nazism had nothing to do with the game?
HERE IS MY POST
Long Con wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:58 am
sig wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:49 pm Why didn't you mention me LC, don't you love me anymore? I THOUGHT WE HAD SOMETHING SPECIAL!
:( :pout: :(
Right, I missed the relevant content in the middle of this post:
sig wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:38 pm Hm I don't regret making that post early honestly waiting In an attempt to catch someone would mean I put to much thought into it and like I said it isn't really a good tried and true reason to lynch someone.

I find quins comment interesting but not suspicious, and I am 100% against voting no lynch, now i wouldn't say if you support a no lynch your a mafia member, but I'd be very wary of anyone who pushes a no lynch, especially syndicate oldies since it isn't really a part of your culture.


Linki: I hate dogs, my gameplay is more like a cats :P
Buuuut if you force me to pick I'd say I'd be like a mutt or something idk dogs are gross
Must have skimmed over it in my search for posts to respond/react to, related to my No Lynch thing. Really disappointed that you used "your" and not "you're", but happy that you didn't say "weary" like so many do. Your response, to me as a Syndicate oldie, seems like a nice, light way to seed some suspicion out there, as a baddie. It also rides the proverbial fence - "now i wouldn't say if you support a no lynch your a mafia member, but...". Two strikes earns you a Scumdar10 rating of: 4.1.
Also why do you say Speed's post is scummy when you make a super big post as well? Or was it more to do with the fact it was a big post that said very little?
Baddie DDL said it well. Mine were response/analysis/interaction, his was a mechanically explanatory chunk. Looking back at that sentence, I used "were" for my post because it's really a bunch of smaller posts in one. Each quotation and response could have had its own post, a la MP07, but I prefer to keep it tight. All in all, when comparing our two posts, the similarities end completely at the number of lines the text takes up. Do you read every post that shallowly? Do you even believe your own post, or are you just mimicking what you think the desire for helpful content looks like?

Frankly, I don't even like the last sentence, it's like a passive little accusation of Speedchuck hidden in a "fact-based" question.
ARRRR, ye be scum by my good eye! Scumdar rating: 8.3.
THE PART YOU ARE ADDRESSING IS IN BLUE, AND THE PARTS THAT CONTAIN ACTUAL ACCUSATIONS OR SUSPICIONS ARE IN RED. Would you care to explain how that happened?

And you're suspicious for putting out bait on multiple players yes, I view it as you waiting to see which one garners more attention and then using that to bandwagon onto someone.
That's funny, I thought I was waiting for people to come and bandwagon on DDL. I didn't know that you can use predictions about someone's future behaviour to find them suspicious. That's some next-level shit!
Your level of sarcasm is very high, which further leads me to believe you're mafia and are angry I caught you using such a meta seemingly nonsensical way.

What you say in red is grandstanding disguised as questions you say my posts are shallow and ask if I believe them, then say my question isn't a question there isn't a way to refute that except by saying no, my posts aren't shallow and yes I was honestly asking the question. Am I slightly riding a fence with my views on no lynch? Maybe but it isn't a 100 percent indicator of someones alignment to say it is would be silly, especially considering the number of games I've played with Glorfindel who always votes no lynch day 1 as a civ. Some people just do that and there are some good civ reasoning behind voting no lynch. However, at the end of the day very few civs actually believe this and it is a tool mainly used by mafia members to get less done. I see nothing out of the ordinary or wrong with any of my statements. I believe you're making mountains out of mole hills and attempting to find mafia tendencies where none exist.

linki: No it really doesn't though. Since you have to assume the real cop knows it's fake claiming, the person fake claiming isn't trying to mislead the thread, and that the person fake claiming is right and should be trusted. The only thing fake claiming does is allow for the mafia to hijack the thread and distract from scumhunting.

Though this is just my opinion I usually take a very hard line stance on claiming at all and even more so on fake claiming. The only time I've ever seen fake claiming work is when the mafia fake claims to get the real cop lynched instead of them, which fun fact I've done twice. :beer:
Fakeclaiming does provide cover. You want one cop to provide one red check, which might net you a mafia kill, but it'll also net you a dead cop. I don't call that a fair trade. Fake claims provide a level of WIFOM for scum to sift through while the cop continues their checks. If the town are mindless sheep and follow whoever claims cop or allow the conversation to be derailed by it, that's not a town team I want to be on.
by Quin
Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:41 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Pirate Mafia [END GAME]
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Views: 28671

Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

dunya wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:38 pm So everyone here thinks that if the cop sees someone fakeclaim as cop they think they're covering for the real cop? What good does it do to the thread though? Why can't mafia fakeclaim to be cop?

I've never played in a game where civ fakeclaim resulted in good things, so I am entirely biased.
I remember [mention]MovingPictures07[/mention] having a lot to say about this tactic, so it'd be good to get his perspective.
by Quin
Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:43 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Pirate Mafia [END GAME]
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Views: 28671

Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

Kylemii wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:39 pm alright. it's business time. 1 - 5, 5 being definitely good, 1 being definitely bad, and 3 being average.

DDL: 2.5
Most of his posts are about game mechanics, he notes to MP that he was lacking baddie reads even though he'd provided none himself, voted sig for asking the cop to play recklessly proactively... just generally ping-y. Like it's mostly gut feel and maybe it's just how he is regularly but there's a definite general pingy-ness there for me. I had him with a lower score before Speedchuck's point about nosebops, i can see how the same tactic could be used as a townie to stir the pot and open up discussion

Dr. Wilgy: ???
LIterally has only posted emoticons? is this normal for Wilgy?

Dunya: 3.5
My gut feel on her is good. Her posts read authentic to me. It's not much more than gut.

Long Con: 3.25
Very thorough and generally positive influence on the thread. He'd be higher but i believe he's very well capable of smoke-screening as a baddie.

MP: 3
he has a lot of posts because of the 1 quote per post thing he did. he's doing work and making shit happen but there's not enough there to sway me either way on him.

NewTraditionist: Null
Only post is about the day 0 vote. Please speak up.

Quin: 2.75
Uneasy but nothing concrete. they say a lot without saying much. throwing out "townie points" is.... i just don't trust that at all. i don't trust that metric

sig: 3.25
actually reads kind of civ to me??? i get where people are coming from with the copclaim suggestion thing but the thing is, he's right. it's mathematically the best choice in a vacuum. other variables exist as well if the cop can reliably wait a cycle and possibly catch a second badboy then like... that's a different matter.

Spacedaisy: 2.5
She's one of the 4 players with only 1 post but she's different in that i usually expect her to be more active than this. she's been around and posting in other places here. I wouldn't vote her over it because i don't think she'd use inactivity as a baddiestrat, but i guess what i'm saying is, hey spacedaisy, come plaaaaay with us. in this space we've made.

Spankgangsta: Null
he's newer, right? come plaaaaaayyyyyyyyy. with us. come out and plaaaaaaaaay

Speedchuck: 3.5
very blunt. I think good? i disagree with some/most of the stuff he says but his posts read as a townie who is trying hard


I see that my reads on Sig and DDL aren't concurrent with the rest of the thread so i'm going to review those two as well as LC
Did you just reduce my content to a town read I made at the very beginning of Day 1? Does the amount of nothings I've said really outweigh the somethings I've said?
by Quin
Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:47 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Pirate Mafia [END GAME]
Replies: 1531
Views: 28671

Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

dunya wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:43 pm
Quin wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:37 pm If the town are mindless sheep and follow whoever claims cop or allow the conversation to be derailed by it, that's not a town team I want to be on.
this post reads as slightly arrogant.

Yes, I take claims seriously. Don't fake claim. Fakeclaims, and further fake results, derail the thread endlessly. I don't give a shit if the real cop gets more nights, you're wasting town effort on wild goosehunts and derailing THEIR efforts. The cop could check every civ in the game before hitting a scum. This game isn't all about the cop...it's a team effort. Plenty of games where the cop died before giving any reads, or gets lynched before targeting a scum prove that Townies can win the game through analysis and intel. Don't fuck that up with fake claims and fake reads.
I have no experience with fakeclaims derailing a thread. I do, however, have experience with fakeclaims bringing a nice chunk of information to the thread to be evaluated later. I agree that pure scumhunting is probably more important, but in this game, fakeclaims are but one more tool that can be used to town's advantage if used properly.
by Quin
Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:50 pm
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Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

Just to clarify my perspective: I'm not encouraging we do one thing or another. I'm just in support of fakeclaiming as an avenue we can take if enough people are on board with it.
by Quin
Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:54 pm
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Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

speedchuck wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:53 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:52 pm
Quin wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:50 pm Just to clarify my perspective: I'm not encouraging we do one thing or another. I'm just in support of fakeclaiming as an avenue we can take if enough people are on board with it.
:nicenod:
Funny thing is, fakeclaims require good communication to be used in any beneficial way. Good communication. With words.
:haha:
by Quin
Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:57 pm
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Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

Kylemii wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:56 pm
Quin wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:43 pm
Kylemii wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:39 pm Quin: 2.75
Uneasy but nothing concrete. they say a lot without saying much. throwing out "townie points" is.... i just don't trust that at all. i don't trust that metric
Did you just reduce my content to a town read I made at the very beginning of Day 1? Does the amount of nothings I've said really outweigh the somethings I've said?
No, I didn't. "Nothing concrete" refers to my gut read on you. Not your actual content. I feel uneasy about you, it's .25 below average. please relax. Just gut.
What do you think of my actual content?
by Quin
Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:01 pm
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Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

I'm confident that I want chocolate milk.
by Quin
Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:01 pm
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Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

Wait, maybe it's iced coffee.

Oh fuck, he's right.
by Quin
Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:09 pm
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Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

I do not dare look at Wilgy too much, for fear I might go blind.
by Quin
Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:12 pm
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Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

Kylemii wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:11 pm
sig wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:05 pmKyle's post seems to be very careful, but there's also a fair amount of content and it's still early in the game to have concrete reads so I like that
i also want to point out, this is my first real mafia game in 3-4 years so i am still kind of in the awkwardly climbing back onto the horse stage
Yes to whoever asked this is common of Wilgy regardless of his alignment.
so he just.... does this? the whole game? every game?
No. Sometimes he uses numbers.
by Quin
Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:14 pm
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Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

Being your first game in so long, I'm pretty happy with what you've put out, Kyle. When you say 'first real mafia game' do you mean you've played other stuff since?
by Quin
Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:16 pm
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Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

dunya wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:12 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:51 pm
Kylemii wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:41 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:37 pm
Kylemii wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:59 pm
speedchuck wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:29 amIs Kylemii an old player here (or elsewhere)? I know he's trying to find his footing, but some trends in mafia are ubiquitous. You're in here, Kyle. I'm expecting more.
Just because I'm not throwing accusations yet doesn't mean I'm not working. On day one I suspected you for being too gung-ho so I asked everyone the dog thing and found out that that's kind of just who you are as a person along with some other stuff.

Now I'm working on something else

What specifically do you want out of me?
:mafia:
please explain your vote?
:mafia: :noble:
You asked "What specifically do you want out of me?" - Wilgy is saying he wants the mafia out of you. :haha:
Naw, the big boys like to think asking 'What do you want from me' is a classic tell from a desperate baddie. Or something.
by Quin
Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:30 pm
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Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

Kylemii wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:23 pm
Quin wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:57 pmWhat do you think of my actual content?
i just don't think there was that much of it...

you "called sig out" on his "watchout roleplay" post then mentioned that you have a habit of tunneling sig, even though that didn't really happen, you mostly just said "hey your strategy has a flaw" and then left it alone

you said that dogs are grosss which is categorically false and also unforgivable.

you claimed that no lynch is a good strategy and gave townie points to speedchuck for agreeing with you with a lot of words, gave more thoughts on that topic

you respond to sig's post about LC

otherwise there's mostly jokes

you've had more content since then but even so i can't pick out any suspicions you've pointed out or agreed with.

overall, you've said a lot, but you haven't "said" much, ya dig? that's where my issue comes in.
I gave speedchuck townie points for the effort he went through in his evaluation. I don't think he landed on thinking it was a good idea in this game.

You are correct that I haven't given a lot of reads. Aside from some good feelings you can infer from my posts, I haven't got that many, none of which are scum reads. I just disagree that to say something it has to be tied to a read.

Also, can you answer my question about your mafia history? It's actually kind of an important question.

linki: i see you did. I town read you, Kyle. I often see new (or extended leavers) come in and use that position as a crutch to survive in the game. You have done no such thing. For now, that's good enough for me.

linki2: have you met ricochet?
by Quin
Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:36 pm
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Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:34 pm
Quin wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:03 pm
speedchuck wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:00 pm
Quin wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:50 pm
speedchuck wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:52 pm 3 minutes later:

Nah, DDL's good. I'm going to vote to make Sig our first wagon of the day.
Why is DDL good?
Check his ISO. He's been very straightforward, unafraid to say what he thinks. Each directed question pushes people in a specific way that puts pressure on them. I agree with his way of looking at things. From what little I've seen, DDL isn't someone I want lynched D1 this game.

He's not confirmed town or anything. I'm just not wanting to lynch him

linki: good question

linki'd again, but I'm going to go ahead and post.
His straight-forwardness is something I'm used to from town DDL (though I haven't seen scum DDL yet). It keeps himself in the spotlight, which in itself isn't something I'd readily expect from a baddie.
Scum DDL is a very rare sight in the Syndicate, for reasons only the RNG gods know.

I think I've been scum maybe 3 times here.
I'm already picturing a National Geographic episode about a scum DDL.
by Quin
Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:40 pm
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Topic: Pirate Mafia [END GAME]
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Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:38 pm (it has 2500 posts. Enjoy)
Please tell me there's an ISO function.
by Quin
Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:42 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Pirate Mafia [END GAME]
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Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

speedchuck wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:41 pm Fer the rest of you swabbies, the reason I ask is that open setups often have no flips. Closed setups often do, or just have them on the lynch.

This setup is in the middle. It's half-open.

Knowing this will absolutely affect what we should do with our roles.
Aye aye!
by Quin
Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:46 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Pirate Mafia [END GAME]
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Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:44 pm
Quin wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:27 pm Fake claiming provides decent cover for the real role to provide information, as far as I'm concerned. All parties just have to be smart about it, or yes, there will be a mess.

I don't suggest roles with ambiguous results out themselves ever.
One thing is fake claiming, the other is posting fake reads so once the cop dies the players know who they investigated.

The former is just confusing, the later can be a viable strategy. Though here the chance of a cop even existing is 25% so I'm not sure if it's worth the trouble.
Sorry if I wasn't clear. I meant the latter.
by Quin
Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:54 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Pirate Mafia [END GAME]
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Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

I'm not going through 83 pages of that game unless I can do ISO's, but I at see that his activity over there was more 'burst-like' than his scum game in Felt. His activity there was significantly lower and less involved. What's your scum game like DDL? I'll take your word for it.
by Quin
Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:55 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Pirate Mafia [END GAME]
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Views: 28671

Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1]

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:52 pm Quin is focusing so much on the merits of fake claiming I'm getting the feeling he's doing that as an excuse not to hunt baddies.

*votes Quin*
That conversation ended an hour ago. I've moved on.

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