The Syndicate

yay a game about dirt

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:11 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:47 pm How come Mars gets to have such a big mountain?
It's not about size, more so how you use it.

How does Mars use its mountain?

ima vote epignosis whenever and i'd like someone to tell me why that is

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:16 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:50 pm ima vote epignosis whenever and i'd like someone to tell me why that is
He's making friends right off the bat.

what are your thoughts on that?

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:58 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:40 pmI'm better at being scum than that Sloonei.
Can you provide proof of this?

idk but this is a perfect opportunity to reaffirm that I'm a better mafia than Epignosis.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:05 am
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:50 pm ima vote epignosis whenever and i'd like someone to tell me why that is
what does this sentence mean?

do you want other people to tell you why you are going to vote for mr gnosis?

i'd like that very much thank you

Can you agree with both hesitance and confidence toward the same thing simultaneously?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:38 am
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:31 am Can you agree with both hesitance and confidence toward the same thing simultaneously?
In this case, I think so. Nutella agrees with the sentiments that have been shared by myself, Long Con, and possibly you (we still don't know your actual reasons for voting Epi). I was only asking about the extent to which she agrees.

My reasons are the same as LC. I thought he was buddying.

Fair enough.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:08 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:53 pm
Uh, you pick two Civs and buddy them so they trust you and don't lynch you. Long game benefit: survival, and more likely to lynch Civs along the way. You intimidate Sloonei out of coming after you. Benefit: One less Civ coming after you; survival; more likely to lynch a Civ along the way.
"Buddying" two civilians on Day 1 is not going to stop my lynch if that is what the majority wishes (not that I agree I have "buddied" anybody).

Sloonei is not going to be intimidated by me to the extent that he won't vote for me if he feels he should (not that I agree I have intimidated Sloonei).

You are, as usual, starting with the conclusion that Epignosis is bad and making everything I do fit that conclusion. Of course, you have no response to this:

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:53 am You are implying that "setting up a long game" is something I, as mafia, would do on Day 1. That is mistaken. The fact is I don't bother with long term planning Day 1 when I am bad. It's antithetical to success in most cases, because to be good at being bad, one must be flexible and able to dance. And I am a fine dancer.
Can anyone who has ever been bad with me point to a time when I set up a long term plan Day 1?

If not, why would I start now?

Can't recall. You were more spontaneous in such games. You don't strike me as the type.

Still, buddying isn't going to stop your lynch on Day 1, but said lynch hadn't started at the time, no?

It's 4:54 in futureland, folks.

Sloonei, you think Kyle is a baddun? Show me the goods.

On Kyle - Obvious difference in the amount of posts between pirate Mafia and this one, even considering shorter phase lengths and the whole debacle at EoD1. Looks bad at face value, like a baddie who can't insert himself properly but I won't condemn him on that alone. We (or I) don't know where to set the baseline for his civilian game.

His content here isn't really fluff, but his thoughts haven't come together in the thread the way I'd like given the 24 hour day phases. They're not particularly useful to me as they are. I'd like some more elaborated stuff from him soon if he's up to it.

I'm getting ready to take my parents to the airport, but I'll look into Epi some more when I get back.

Mm. I thought I had a valid point but it got skipped over in Epi's catch up. I've realised my error but I already did the hyperlink and everything, so a response would be nice.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:12 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:53 pm
Uh, you pick two Civs and buddy them so they trust you and don't lynch you. Long game benefit: survival, and more likely to lynch Civs along the way. You intimidate Sloonei out of coming after you. Benefit: One less Civ coming after you; survival; more likely to lynch a Civ along the way.

Wait a minute.

How does Long Con know Mesk, coolonialbob, and Sloonei are civilians?

A valid question.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:34 pm As for the cbob and mesk no-vote posts... they're empty filler. Neither of them are in any way real or substantial gameplay. There was nothing about mesk's "dirt" comment that should lead to any alignment decisions. IF you really feel the need to read into it, it indicates a general ignorance or the game structure, which doesn't show as good or bad. And I don't feel like it was even that. Does anyone disagree with this?

And the Rocket Man lyrics response is equally devoid of value. So Epi would have spared his vote for any player who acknowledged his Elton John joke. Why? It doesn't even plant a seed that could grow into a suspicion, it doesn't put anyone on the spot, the only effect is to make cbob slightly more comfortable.

It wouldn't be the first time I've seen people earn a free pass for nothing. Disagree with that?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:53 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:11 am He's buddying them, and then intimidating you out of an adversarial position. He's setting up a long game. That's not what Civ Epignosis cares to do.
This again, about what a "civilian Epignosis" cares to do. You really should write a book about me, since you're such an expert.

Saying I won't vote someone Day 1 for catching my Elton John reference is not "setting up a long game."

Finding a reason to believe Mesk is civilian and in the next hour reevaluating that reason is, again, not "setting up a long game."

Intimidating Sloonei (if that's what you want to call it, since I don't believe Sloonei can be intimidated in Mafia, and even if he could, what would I have to gain by intimidating him if I could just kill him Night 1?) is not "setting up a long game."

You are implying that "setting up a long game" is something I, as mafia, would do on Day 1. That is mistaken. The fact is I don't bother with long term planning Day 1 when I am bad. It's antithetical to success in most cases, because to be good at being bad, one must be flexible and able to dance. And I am a fine dancer.

Where are you reevaluating your Mesk read here, Epi?

Mesk514 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:51 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:18 pm
Mesk514 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:16 pm is a civilian good here? I'm pretty sure someone told me a civilian is scum... I am good, fear me!
Who told you a civilian is "scum?"

And even if someone did, why would you believe it?
i think this is something someone said in a discord chat when i first joined, or one of the nubs who played in my game off site said something about it before this game started

i don't know if i believe it, hence why i am asking...

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:14 am
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:25 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:52 am
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:43 am I'm with Sloonei (and LC, wow, what a surprise, it's el clásico again and everything is predictable and nothing hurts)
Are you more inclined toward my hesitance or LC's confidence?
The former, I guess. Mostly I agree with the sentiments you've expressed about why Quin's reasoning is fine for day 1, and probably enough to join Quin and LC in an epi vote if I don't get anything better for a day 1 reason
What is Quin's reasoning?

Here is everything Quin has said about me:

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:36 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:05 am
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:50 pm ima vote epignosis whenever and i'd like someone to tell me why that is
what does this sentence mean?

do you want other people to tell you why you are going to vote for mr gnosis?
i'd like that very much thank you

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:34 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:58 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:40 pmI'm better at being scum than that Sloonei.
Can you provide proof of this?

idk but this is a perfect opportunity to reaffirm that I'm a better mafia than Epignosis.

I didn't challenge Sloonei's response to my question, so I can understand anyone assuming that my thoughts were the same as his.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:47 pm okay this has turned into nonsensical arguments that are getting us nowhere. remind me to never again sign up for a game with both Epi and LC because it just always turns into this and we never make progress

Let's make some progress. What do you think about Sloonei?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:36 am Quin/Sloonei not w/w imo.

y

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:47 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:49 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:45 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:54 pm It's 4:54 in futureland, folks.

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:54 pmA.M.
That's almost an alpine start!
Would appreciate ISO links, since they're hard to do manually from my phone!

(Day 1 ISOs, what have I become)
ISO links have been added. Thanks for the reminder.

my hero <3

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:57 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:53 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:47 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:49 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:45 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:54 pm It's 4:54 in futureland, folks.

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:54 pmA.M.
That's almost an alpine start!
Would appreciate ISO links, since they're hard to do manually from my phone!

(Day 1 ISOs, what have I become)
ISO links have been added. Thanks for the reminder.
my hero <3
I spent many years on the mountain in preparation for this day.

ISO links don't ISO themselves you know.

Marmot in the Mountains seems like one hell of a National Geographic segment.

plsfixthis wrote:
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:03 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:36 pmHow does Long Con know Mesk, coolonialbob, and Sloonei are civilians?
A valid question.
I already let someone else prove it's not valid. Are you following along ok?

Yes sir. It's still a valid train of thought. You're not immune to scum slips.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:02 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:54 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:45 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:44 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:22 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:41 am And now, the game is really afoothill!

*crickets*

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:40 am I might be persuaded to go with Epi today, but as of right now I'd not be willing to put a definitive vote on him.
How's the fence treating you?

*vote sloons*
We need an eye rolling emoji that I can post here.
Posts that appear to say something while not actually saying anything? To borrow the words of somebody else:

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:00 amThat's a good enough reason for Day 1 because I will accept any reason on Day 1.

Do you intend to keep your vote on me?
What an odd question.

I will answer it by saying I subscribe to the maxim "Vote early, vote often."
I'm gonna put a vote on colonialbob because he never told me why this was an odd question.

Did you ask him why it was an odd question?

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:17 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:13 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:43 pm I thought as much. Wouldn't you say that's kind of a scum tell for you?
Which part of that is a scum tell for Jack?
Good question; Jack, in answering my question, be a dear and answer Sloonei's as well please.

Where did this conversation lead to?

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:58 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:40 pmI'm better at being scum than that Sloonei.
Can you provide proof of this?

Why was it necessary to have her prove this?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:05 am @Long Con Lost Again 3 comes to mind. But whatever man. I don't feel the need to prove I can play a good scum game. Especially given the fact that I am not scum in this game.

I also like this response. Quickly ending a conversation which seems of non-import to me. Unless LC wanted to glean something from it, in which case, read quote one.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:15 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:11 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:17 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:13 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:43 pm I thought as much. Wouldn't you say that's kind of a scum tell for you?
Which part of that is a scum tell for Jack?
Good question; Jack, in answering my question, be a dear and answer Sloonei's as well please.
Where did this conversation lead to?
Nowhere. Jack's answer was boring and predictable, and I didn't see any real avenue to move forward with it. Just messing around, really.

How do you feel about him at the moment?

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:37 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:23 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:11 am He's buddying them, and then intimidating you out of an adversarial position. He's setting up a long game. That's not what Civ Epignosis cares to do.
I could see all of this being applicable to Epi in his current form. But he is as crafty a townie as he is scum, so I'm not going to leap to any quick decisions on him.
That just might be the main reason he survives when scum.

What are you suggesting in this post?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:20 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:19 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:37 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:23 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:11 am He's buddying them, and then intimidating you out of an adversarial position. He's setting up a long game. That's not what Civ Epignosis cares to do.
I could see all of this being applicable to Epi in his current form. But he is as crafty a townie as he is scum, so I'm not going to leap to any quick decisions on him.
That just might be the main reason he survives when scum.
What are you suggesting in this post?
People are going to hate our hydra so much.

That's the dream.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:17 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:13 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:43 pm I thought as much. Wouldn't you say that's kind of a scum tell for you?
Which part of that is a scum tell for Jack?
Good question; Jack, in answering my question, be a dear and answer Sloonei's as well please.

Idk. The only scumtell I'm aware of is that I get overly excited when I think I'm about to win as a baddie.[/quote]

This could be compensation for lack of a proper response. I'm not leaning either way on it.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:55 am
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:34 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:58 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:40 pmI'm better at being scum than that Sloonei.
Can you provide proof of this?
idk but this is a perfect opportunity to reaffirm that I'm a better mafia than Epignosis.
Yeah but Epi's a better civvy so we just gotta watch and see which of you does good this game.

Tend to agree with your initial line of questioning.

My 'justify my vote for me' thing?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:27 pm @Quin

Cause this post. I don't think Sloonei posts this if you are teammates together.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:16 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:50 pm ima vote epignosis whenever and i'd like someone to tell me why that is
He's making friends right off the bat.

What would he say if we were teammates?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:39 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:53 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:59 am If Long Con is a civilian, then is most likely means he is genuine in his suspicion of me.

If his suspicion is genuine, then his accusation that I am being deliberate and calculating in my dealings thus far should be one that he can logically explain.
Already done, but you want more words?

In other words, if I know what I'm doing (i.e., being deliberate in "setting up a long game"), and Long Con is calling me out on that, then he should be able to explain how my actions in the thread so far will benefit my team and me down the road. What is the long game and how am I expecting it to play out?
Uh, you pick two Civs and buddy them so they trust you and don't lynch you. Long game benefit: survival, and more likely to lynch Civs along the way. You intimidate Sloonei out of coming after you. Benefit: One less Civ coming after you; survival; more likely to lynch a Civ along the way.

If he can't answer that, then his suspicion isn't genuine, and he's trying to get a quick and easy Day 1 lynch out of the way.
Let's get this quick and easy Day 1 lynch out of the way, folks!
Point LC.

Epi is perhaps the best dancer on the site. There is nothing "quick and easy" about trying to mislynch him on Day 1. This feels like trying to scare away votes, not a legit attempt to scumhunt, which is exactly what Epi is already accused of doing with Sloonei.

Combined with suspicious nonlynchcandidate declarations, I think this is worthy of a vote.

PS: What is my tell?

I don't think LC and Jack are teammates. This is a natural continuation of old dialogue. Decent distancing if I'm wrong.

guys im on a roll give me more people to postspam

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:33 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:30 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:13 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:51 am Hi, @sprityo

Do you have an opinion on my alightment yet?

I think you're probably town.
What was so shining and glorious about sprit's check to earn him this early read?
I just like Sprityo.

Did you follow up on this?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:30 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:22 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:21 am
How many times have you seen me cast a single vote on Day 1 and leave it there?
Was I supposed to be paying attention to you all this time? I'm sorry.
I'm saying I throw my votes around willynilly on every Day 1 that I ever play in. You're usually pretty on the ball about what goes on in game threads, but you've seldom been skeptical of me for doing this in the past.

This is fair. Even if you don't pay that much attention you can get a general idea of what a person likes if you play with them enough. For example, I know that around Day 3 Jack and I are going to tear each others throats out.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:44 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:25 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:17 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:13 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:43 pm I thought as much. Wouldn't you say that's kind of a scum tell for you?
Which part of that is a scum tell for Jack?
Good question; Jack, in answering my question, be a dear and answer Sloonei's as well please.
Idk. The only scumtell I'm aware of is that I get overly excited when I think I'm about to win as a baddie.
This could be compensation for lack of a proper response. I'm not leaning either way on it.

That could be. The real response was "I don't know"... and actually, now that I typed it out, the response does ping me slightly. A Civ's response to "Is that a scumtell for you/what part is a scumtell?" should be "It's not a scumtell, it can't be because I'm not scum"... but Jack just doesn't know why or which part was a scumtell.

[/quote]

spooky

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:40 am I might be persuaded to go with Epi today, but as of right now I'd not be willing to put a definitive vote on him.

This following "I move my vote around constantly on Day 1" begs an explanation.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:05 am
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:50 pm ima vote epignosis whenever and i'd like someone to tell me why that is
what does this sentence mean?

do you want other people to tell you why you are going to vote for mr gnosis?

Is this an acceptable response from a townie? Is Sloonei's response unacceptable from a townie?

I don't think Sloonei is fence sitting. Or rather, if what he's doing is fence sitting, that's what he always does.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:50 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:47 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:40 am I might be persuaded to go with Epi today, but as of right now I'd not be willing to put a definitive vote on him.
This following "I move my vote around constantly on Day 1" begs an explanation.
That's a good point. An inconsistency arises in previously consistent gameplay?

I'm just looking for a specific response for now.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:02 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:57 pm @Sloonei
@colonialbob

What do you think of Epi's vote for LC?
I'm not loving this version of Epignosis. He seems to be working harder at discrediting the accusations against him than actually figuring out the players making the accusations. This doesn't look like the crafty town Epignosis who will get under people's skin for the sake of reading them without any fear or regard for his own appearance. Instead he looks like he's trying to fight his way out of a corner.

I don't disagree with this. Epi's playstyle is argumentative, but in my experience he favours offense over defence.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:38 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:37 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:32 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:14 pm You leave Kyle alone.
why?
I'm just filling the silence. I don't have a strong opinion on Kyle. Like I half think you're distracting from Epi but I don't wanna get tunnel visioned. You do whatever.
I'm definitely trying to get us to talk about more than just Epi. I don't want to not talk about him, but I don't want him to be the only topic either.

Sloonei knows just how to get me on his good side.

Did I even use that expression properly?

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:57 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:56 pm Did I even use that expression properly?
I think it's supposed to be your side that is good.

I don't have a good side. The opposite of photogenic.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:57 pm I'm voting for Jack ok gg

hi

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:19 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:37 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:23 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:11 am He's buddying them, and then intimidating you out of an adversarial position. He's setting up a long game. That's not what Civ Epignosis cares to do.
I could see all of this being applicable to Epi in his current form. But he is as crafty a townie as he is scum, so I'm not going to leap to any quick decisions on him.
That just might be the main reason he survives when scum.
What are you suggesting in this post?

Please answer this, LC.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:47 pm okay this has turned into nonsensical arguments that are getting us nowhere. remind me to never again sign up for a game with both Epi and LC because it just always turns into this and we never make progress

I dislike this. It's the same as trying to tell the thread that nothing significant is being exchanged between them. I wonder if nutella has made similar sentiments in other games while town.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:43 am I'm with Sloonei (and LC, wow, what a surprise, it's el clásico again and everything is predictable and nothing hurts)

cba finding my sloonei exchange again but here's a lovely recap

Sloonei: Do you agree more with my hesitance or LC's confidence?
nutella: The former
Quin: Is it possible to agree with both confidence and hesitance at the same time
Sloonei: Yes, because she's understanding of all of our perspectives
Quin: Fair enough

I changed my mind. That's called sitting on the fence.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:03 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:00 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:19 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:37 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:23 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:11 am He's buddying them, and then intimidating you out of an adversarial position. He's setting up a long game. That's not what Civ Epignosis cares to do.
I could see all of this being applicable to Epi in his current form. But he is as crafty a townie as he is scum, so I'm not going to leap to any quick decisions on him.
That just might be the main reason he survives when scum.
What are you suggesting in this post?
Please answer this, LC.
Missed that in the cavalcade.

The main reason Epi survives as scum might be that people believe his town game is seen as crafty, so people will let certain things slide that they might have otherwise found suspicious.

On a scale of 1 to 10, how vehemently do you reject my initial impression that you were suggesting lynching Epignosis before he could cement himself in the game?

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