The Syndicate

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:20 am Effective immediately, malakim2099 has replaced Dom.

That's right, I'm back! Hi peeps.

Wow, I forgot how much you guys post. Give me some time to catch up. Work is a little crazy today.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:06 am Like in here, Quin started pushing the Mesk lynch before everyone. He pushed and he pushed until people took the bait. If one of Jay or New Dom is bad, Quin looks terrible. On the other hand, it is a risky play for a baddie. He more or less took the lead on it.

Or did he? He was the fourth one to vote in the poll (can we trust the pool order, btw? This site changes too much). That means he kept suggesting it until some people voted for her, then jumped on the wagon himself.

Still catching up, but if the bolded is true, that feels very scummy.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:57 am

malakim2099 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:00 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:20 am Effective immediately, malakim2099 has replaced Dom.

That's right, I'm back! Hi peeps.

Wow, I forgot how much you guys post. Give me some time to catch up. Work is a little crazy today.

This post is obviously scummy, Mal is mafia.

(sydicate people, it's a running gag, just my way of welcoming him to the thread)

Typical cbob scum reaction.

See what I did there?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:31 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:23 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:51 pm I'd really like to hear Mesk514's thoughts on current events. My thoughts are clouded by past meta and I think an outsiders' viewpoint could bring some clarity

But what about the other 16 players?

current events

LC and Epi were the most relevant clouds, you and Sloonei were satellites to that event.

Mesk has formal mafia experience and no preconceived notions about how Epi or LC (or any of us for that matter) play normally and that makes her viewpoint unique and especially valuable because of it.

the mention thing goes away if you

And yet she was the one voted out on Day 3.

Look, work is being work and you guys typed a lot the past couple days. I'm working on it!

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:56 pm Sake for me Bob and Mal

Well, JoH is scum because he's posting.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:05 pm

malakim2099 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:52 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:56 pm Sake for me Bob and Mal

Well, JoH is scum because he's posting.

Mal is scum because he is always scum

Especially when I'm town.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:29 pm In case I am NKed tonight:
Jay
Quin
Dom/malakim

should be the next three lynches. Not sure who the fourth is. I'd maybe consider Kyle again tbh... Or INH or sig. But I am very confident that the three I listed are bad.

Well, that DEFINITELY encourages me to be active.

Sheesh, can I digest the War and Peace-sized game to date before getting strung up as a replacement?

For the record, far too early for me (got to page 11) to get any sort of good reads yet, BUT when you talk about lynching a player spot immediately after they've been replaced? That seems fairly scummy to me. Especially with the meta-logic of "well, they were replaced so they must be mafia" which is, frankly, crap logic.

Nutella, aside from the fact that Dom was completely inert, why am I bad?
Dunya, likewise.

If I'm locked into dying via lynch in the next couple days (which definitely helps the mafia narrow down who they don't have to bother NKing)... I'd like to know why at least. Consider it a professional courtesy.

(Normally I'd just defend myself, but I'm curious what their reasoning is in lynching someone who is going to actually be active in the game going forward?)

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:51 pm I have no reason to suspect you other than basic statistics and probability at this point in time. Also that fucking SF game

I won't be scrambling to lynch you any time soon. Please, get comfortable and show us your pearly white peak.

Well, normally I don't do this on my first night...

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:56 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:55 pm

malakim2099 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:42 pm For the record, far too early for me (got to page 11) to get any sort of good reads yet, BUT when you talk about lynching a player spot immediately after they've been replaced? That seems fairly scummy to me. Especially with the meta-logic of "well, they were replaced so they must be mafia" which is, frankly, crap logic.

I'd also like to point out I replaced in before you, and I'm town. There were three other inactives, Mesk, you, and insertnamehere (who became inactive after replacing another inactive). Is it likely all 4 inactives were town and not even 1 was mafia? Possible, but I wouldn't call it likely.

I'm town, Mesk flipped town, so the logic that you COULD be scum isn't fool proof, but it isn't coming straight out of my ass either, I reckon. Read on, show us what you got. I've been in your shoes and it wasn't a fun process--especially when the person I replaced was a lynch-candidate the day before I replaced.

So if malakim is town, you're probably scum right?

That makes sense to me. After all, I'm town, Mesk was revealed as town... simple numbers, it has to be dunya.

A janitor in this game. Very interesting.

Though I suspect the Martian is involved with that. Too many secrets.

Going to bed now, will poke back after some sleep.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:05 am

malakim2099 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:04 am A janitor in this game. Very interesting.

Though I suspect the Martian is involved with that. Too many secrets.

Going to bed now, will poke back after some sleep.

All night kills are automatically janitored.

Oh! Well, that is interesting. Wasn't that way in either Mass Effect or SF, which is why I was surprised. Hmmm.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:10 am

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:51 am

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:09 pm I'm actually not having a jolly ol time. I'm sick. I still have work this week...which is good with Christmas coming, but I have a cold, so not fun. Every time I read a page even when caught up, there is another page to read. And when I go to sleep, I wake up like 10 pages behind. I cannot think straight 'cause I'm sick. Went to the store to get meds and left my phone, that's how much I can't think straight. Sloon is being nit picky with me. I think he expects more from me than I can intellectually give. I'm not an intellectual like so many of you here. I play for fun and to try to keep my mind as sharp as possible as I age. Did I mention I'm sick and feel like crap. My meds didn't even seem to help.

I don't feel a scum eloh would manipulate us in this way, writing a paragraph+ about how ill she feels. I feel this was a genuine cry of frustration. She got really sick, and got behind in the thread. I'm moving Eloh to higher town read now.

She can be 100% honest in that post and still be bad.

True, but from my limited experience with her, I don't think she's the kind of player to do that. This seems like a style comment more than anything else.

Anywho, will be around later this afternoon, need to go get my new DL. Written tests are a pain in the ass.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:25 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:10 am I don't think J is bad with Dunya or Quin.

Bad Jimmy and bad Quin don't team up to save bad Dom. That's really dangerous for little return, given Dom has been inactive.

I still think Wuin is good.

Disagree. The first death being a mafia death is very bad thing for mafia. Bad Quin has cover from pushing after lasagne from the beginning, plus it's easier to justify votes swapping around in a CFD type EOD. I mean heck Sloonei voted with JJJ and I'm almost positive they're not w/w. I think JJJ/Quin/Dom w/w/w is still very much on the table.

(Plus little return isn't necessarily true. He could be Sutter Buttes, or Gwendol Wreakin's kill might be special in some way. And if his teammates can submit an action for him, doubly so.)

The bolded is not. I can tell you that. But of course I'd tell you that.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:31 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:17 pm What are the reasons we are all voting for Jay today?
Who's suspect #2 after him?

I'd lynch one of Kyle/Dunya/Jack/Bob/Sig/Eloh.

I don't want to lynch Malakim today. Give him time to breathe. Day 5 onwards is fair game tho.

But above all, I wanna follow up on the case I made last night. Jay's playstyle in this game is weird as fuck. He needs to be lynched for that. Or be forced to defend himself. So far his defense has been pitiful.

I've never really played a game with JJJ before (co-modded with Mass Effect, and he dropped for inactivity in SF when we were scumbrothers) so could you say where your Masterpiece summary was (or quote it)? Still catching up on the thread* so I haven't had a chance to really dive in. I'm getting there though!

* I know I know I know, but you guys posted a LOT okay?!?

Well, I'm honestly leaning towards voting JJJ because I disliked his... I guess you could call it defense? Plus there seems to be a prevalent "JJJ is mal's scumbuddy" theory out there. Though I'm not going to drop a vote yet, if only because I'm going to be around before the end of the day phase (barring catastrophic weirdness), so I will be back by then.

Oh, and passed the written test, so got my MN DL. Woot! Now to wait 3-4 weeks for the bloody thing.

Also, Get Out is freaking amazing. Love that movie (own it on Bluray).

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:45 pm @malakim2099 would you please do me a solid and describe your past mafia experience, to whatever extent you're comfortable with?

Sure! I've only really played at HCRealms, as JoH and Cbob can attest. But I've been playing for quite a while (about 9 years now, I think). The running gag there is that I'm always mafia, because I'm about two standard deviations more likely to be mafia than town in all the games I've played in (seriously, we ran the numbers, it was a little frightful.)

Here, I helped JJJ run the Mass Effect game, and then I played in the SF side-game a few months ago as Balrog (hence the avatar). Anyway, hope that helps.

Just got back from playing MTG so I need to catch up on the past few hours.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 5:56 pm

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:15 am As y'all know, Thursdays are rough for me as Im put of the house basically all day and focused soley on the rugrats. It's now Friday but tomorrow is my daughter's birthday party and so today is another full day. I'm really not trying to cheat here, but I thinknits kind of crucial we actually get a baddie today. So...can someone kind of recap for me a little of what's goibg on. I know the lynch was pretty quickly switched to mesk. I know I had my doubts about her civvieness, but who ever actually listens to me? Did Jay stir up suspicion on her and eventually get her lynched? Is this why several of you are voting for him?

everyone is going to laugh and make fun of me again, and I don't care. I think language is important. If we get a sense of guiltiness from a player, there's something to be read. Likewise, when Eloh says "she's really not trying to cheat here", it strikes me as someone who felt guilty I took her heartfelt sickness/lurking post to mean townie, and I may have kind of manipulated her into thinking I believed "she's not an evil woman, she won't lie about using sickness as an excuse to get off the hook for lurking / sidelining". The result? She feels bad about being "under the radar" and possibly being a town read due to inactivity -- "cheating"



I've had neutral leaning bad, then bad, then neutral leaning bad feelings about her all game. The only reason my suspicions are not sticking is because everyone is defending her meta, saying she looks town. I haven't played with her before so I can't claim I know what her scum/town distinctions are, but I know I've been leaning bad all game.

I will say I have limited experience with Elo, but I did make an effort to paint her behavior as mafia-esque in the SF game. Not sure how well it succeeded, but I did survive to the end for the win there?

MULTIQUOTE POST FOR THE WIN! Or at least, for the summary.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:49 pm Let's find replacements for them! Hey, anyone wanna read 76 pages of mafia?

I'm still working on it! Geez. I don't want to punt the the rest of it but I honestly don't know when I'll have TIME to read through everything.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:37 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:34 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:33 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:26 pm I feel my thoughts are very much in sync with DDL.

I am hesitant to vote Jay with him, but "I like this Jack more than Day 1" Jack sums up my exact feelings.

What about voting Malakim with me?

I like your gall and how you're leading stuff.

Thanks, because I have no idea what i'm doing.

Obviously. Especially since 7 minutes after I say I'm going and will BBL, you drop a vote knowing I won't respond for a while. That, strikes me as particularly sleazy.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:47 pm Wilgy can go back to smilies. I'm not scum so I won't punch him this time.

All my lunch options look unappealing. I don't want to lunch malakim unless he can replace in again(if town). He might not want to after that. I have no read on him other than the way the d3 lynch shifted. And that may have been us being dumb.

Honestly, if I'm speed-lynched right after replacing someone? Um... yeah, I'll say something short and profane to anyone asking me to sub in again.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:58 pm

malakim2099 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:54 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:45 pm malakim2099 would you please do me a solid and describe your past mafia experience, to whatever extent you're comfortable with?

Sure! I've only really played at HCRealms, as JoH and Cbob can attest. But I've been playing for quite a while (about 9 years now, I think). The running gag there is that I'm always mafia, because I'm about two standard deviations more likely to be mafia than town in all the games I've played in (seriously, we ran the numbers, it was a little frightful.)

Here, I helped JJJ run the Mass Effect game, and then I played in the SF side-game a few months ago as Balrog (hence the avatar). Anyway, hope that helps.

Just got back from playing MTG so I need to catch up on the past few hours.

Thank you! Unfortunately I forgot why I asked you this in the first place

What are your current thoughts at?

Honestly, I really dislike DDL and Wilgy. And yes, most of this is the fact that they are voting for me. But then DDL pings me for "laziness" when... I just got here? I mean, I hate to break it to y'all, but 70+ pages of freaking mafia is NOT EASY TO GO THROUGH. And from the last game, I don't want to go off half-cocked and just post something for the purposes of posting something, so I've been trying to refrain until I can read through it.

So yeah, I feel like I'm getting pinned into a place where if I don't read the thread's full backlog and post something that misses what JJJ said on page 47 I'm scummy... but if I don't say much substantive and post very little of real accusations... I'm scummy. This is making me cranky, if you can't already tell.

Of the two, Wilgy's eagerness to jump on the me-train for nothing more than "I seem suspicious" from DDL just feels off. Of course, he was town when he did similar stuff in SF, so I dunno if that's opportunism or something else. Especially given his last post about "I wanted to see if something would happen."

I find it funny that DDL votes for me because I'm slacking, but Wilgy does the same thing (slacking) by effectively going along for the ride.

Elo, I think is town, as she's sounding a lot like she did in SF. To me, anyway.

JJJ, I'm actually thinking now that he's no longer being nihilistic that he's more town. I like his ISO work. Honestly, if he had dropped a vote on me after doing the ISO of me? I'd respect that a lot more than DDL or Wilgy as he had actual reasoning behind it.

Not sure on the others, though with only having one game under my belt (and that was as scum), I'm a little leery of dunya. But I think that's mostly because I feel put on the defensive here. I'm a little leery of CBob, especially after JJJ's ISO, but JoH... JackO is hard for me to read, darnit. I've seen him act this way as town OR mafia.

Well, I take that back, partly. DDL swapped back over to JJJ based on what I'm seeing. Wilgy's vote is still there.

And yeah, CBob, that's pretty much where I'm at right now. I'm not going to go through and reread everything. I just can't.

Also, so there's not a miss.

*Wilgy*

At least for the moment. I am still here and listening and willing to consider alternatives, until the EOD. Now that I'm home and no longer playing Magic.

Got a really cool 4-player EDH match going at the almost local game shop. Was a lot of fun. And now I watch John Wick 2.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:16 am Switched to Speed.

Why are all my suspects not named Wilgy voting for Wilgy?

Staying far away from that lynch.

Well, I'm voting for him because I didn't like his logic in voting for me. It struck me as lazy piggybacking without real conviction.

I'm just not entirely certain about speedchuck as a lynch candidate.

(But then, when aren't I on your suspect list? Oh, wait, colors. That's right.)

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:27 am

malakim2099 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:24 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:16 am Switched to Speed.

Why are all my suspects not named Wilgy voting for Wilgy?

Staying far away from that lynch.

Well, I'm voting for him because I didn't like his logic in voting for me. It struck me as lazy piggybacking without real conviction.

I'm just not entirely certain about speedchuck as a lynch candidate.

(But then, when aren't I on your suspect list? Oh, wait, colors. That's right.)

This supposed to convince me you aren't bad with Speed and Jimmy?

No, it's supposed to be humor.

And actually, I think I'm convinced based on your citation of the Pirates game.

*Switching Speedchuck*

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 2:52 am Also, Malakim's reaction to DDL and I was pretty intense.

Interesting really. I don't know how to interpret such a harsh reaction followed by No U. I guess we'll see.

Next time you want to vote for me, do me a favor and not do it right after I say I'm leaving for a couple hours.

That rubs me the wrong way. Even if it is legit.

Which, well, it really wasn't.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 3:07 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 2:57 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 2:56 am It's actually absurd how much EOD shenanigans have taken place in this game considering it's like 2AM or later for most of you.

like i said, no one has any idea what's going on.

I mean it's 11pm for me and I don't have a job, are you guys just wrecking your sleep schedules?

No work tomorrow, and I'm a bit of a night owl anyway.

Though tomorrow I'm picking up my parents' Xmas gift at Best buy, so that's going to keep me busy I'm sure.

Well, I freely admit to being suckered.

Though I will say when you lynch me tomorrow you are gonna be very disappointed.

And yeah, I don't know if there's a term for getting suckered into playing defense but that's how I feel atm.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:54 am

malakim2099 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:52 am Well, I freely admit to being suckered.

Though I will say when you lynch me tomorrow you are gonna be very disappointed.

And yeah, I don't know if there's a term for getting suckered into playing defense but that's how I feel atm.

Stop whining about votes that haven't even been made and start hunting scum.

...

Fuck you. I am.