The Syndicate

Jesus Christ guys. 5 pages on day 0. Stooooooop.

I'm going to prove to you that Sloonei is bad this game. I have a real good feeling about that. He is bad an I'm a doctor!

Sick Ephraim avatar JoH.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:40 pmL'Arachel is best princess wandering hero. I think Ephraim married Tana in my game, though.

Not supporting Cormag with Tana to make the flying dream team. Tsk tsk.

Hazelnut what's wrong?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:50 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:24 pm Jesus Christ guys. 5 pages on day 0. Stooooooop.

I'm going to prove to you that Sloonei is bad this game. I have a real good feeling about that. He is bad an I'm a doctor!
Also Made has wilgy as his second strongest town read on the strength of this post and nothing else (wilgy's only other contribution at the time of made's rainbow was an OT comment about jack's avatar). I guess I overlooked this post when I was discussing Made's observation about heat on me, but I don't really take this seriously since it doesn't seem like wilgy's expressing an actual suspicion of me, rather he's just shaking his fist at me for having close to 50 posts on Day 0. I'd shake my fist at me too. That's ridiculous.
I don't understand any of Made's reads, I guess, but that doesn't stop me from liking that they exist at this point.

Why did it take you so long to comment on this? Why did you provide a reason other than suspicion when I said I was suspicious of you?

Bad guys are Hazlenut, Mac, and Sloonster.

Dis is de wae.

Omoshiroi desu ne?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:42 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:36 pm Bad guys are Hazlenut, Mac, and Sloonster.

Dis is de wae.
Actually, I'm not. But thanks for trying.

But you are.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:42 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:36 pm Bad guys are Hazlenut, Mac, and Sloonster.

Dis is de wae.
Not sure if serious

I want reasons for those first two. Don't care how shallow.

Care to guess 1st? Why wouldn't I be serious?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:44 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:34 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:50 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:24 pm Jesus Christ guys. 5 pages on day 0. Stooooooop.

I'm going to prove to you that Sloonei is bad this game. I have a real good feeling about that. He is bad an I'm a doctor!
Also Made has wilgy as his second strongest town read on the strength of this post and nothing else (wilgy's only other contribution at the time of made's rainbow was an OT comment about jack's avatar). I guess I overlooked this post when I was discussing Made's observation about heat on me, but I don't really take this seriously since it doesn't seem like wilgy's expressing an actual suspicion of me, rather he's just shaking his fist at me for having close to 50 posts on Day 0. I'd shake my fist at me too. That's ridiculous.
I don't understand any of Made's reads, I guess, but that doesn't stop me from liking that they exist at this point.
Why did it take you so long to comment on this? Why did you provide a reason other than suspicion when I said I was suspicious of you?
I didn't have a reason to respond to it initially because you didn't seem to be expressing any reason to suspect me. It seemed more like a mission statement rather than a declaration of suspicion: "I'm going to prove to you that Sloonei is bad this game." I only addressed the post in the context of the discussion around Made. I frankly do not care about your stance on me here because it doesn't appear that you have one. You have a hypothesis that I am bad. Get back to me when you find the symptoms of my badness, Doctor.

Why patronize the idea of me finding symptoms of you being bad if you are good Sloonster? If you are civ the symptoms wouldnt exist. Would you want me to be chasing my tail like a puppy if I was a civilian on your team?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:07 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:03 pm Why patronize the idea of me finding symptoms of you being bad if you are good Sloonster? If you are civ the symptoms wouldnt exist. Would you want me to be chasing my tail like a puppy if I was a civilian on your team?
I want town wilgy to do what town wilgy needs to do to feel comfortable in this game. I also don't appreciate being told I should address suspicions which don't exist, hence the tone of snark.

Why judge my suspicion as nonexistent without a question? You devote such time to your stream of posts and I didn't get one until someone else drew it out and I yelled about it. Porque?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:11 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:03 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:42 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:36 pm Bad guys are Hazlenut, Mac, and Sloonster.

Dis is de wae.
Not sure if serious

I want reasons for those first two. Don't care how shallow.
Care to guess 1st? Why wouldn't I be serious?
Nah, they're your reads. I don't care to guess. Besides, then you could just steal my reasons. Ain't gonna work.

Why wouldn't you be serious? Tone, your username, your sel-- I guess the selections are fine. Tone and username.

Fair. I respect that.

Gut and meta for both.

I'm curious as to why you excluded Sloonei in your question. Why?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:13 pm This is MacDougall's first game ever.

U right. My b.

@Sloonei your first post was too long for what it actually provided.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:21 am With no basis on what I'm voting for, the Outworld sounds like my kind of place.

Then your post following also was too long and fluffy.

Comparing your first buncha posts here to other civ Sloonei posts makes me feel that you are being non genuine here. An example of difference can be found by comparing this game to the search for Quin.

Now. Why did I have to bark for you to bat an eye?

Actually. 2nd post. Your first post was about e.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:20 pm My suspects at this point (meaning people I'd be willing to lynch): Kylemii, Nutella, LC, marmot, wilgy.

Ask me questions if you want, I'll be home on a keyboard soon

Interesting. Why me?

I've been at a convention all weekend. There are 20 something more pages than before. I'm not catching up. I'm just going to continue to prove that Sloonei is bad and is distancing from Mac. Hazelnut is also bad.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:17 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:54 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:20 pm My suspects at this point (meaning people I'd be willing to lynch): Kylemii, Nutella, LC, marmot, wilgy.

Ask me questions if you want, I'll be home on a keyboard soon
Interesting. Why me?

I've been at a convention all weekend. There are 20 something more pages than before. I'm not catching up. I'm just going to continue to prove that Sloonei is bad and is distancing from Mac. Hazelnut is also bad.
I don't buy excuses from you. You're the guy that has put out REASONED reads and SUBSTANTIATED arguments while literally just using smilies and quotes. I got you lynched for it in Pirate Mafia or some such, and it was a sigh of relief because you were onto us and had reasons. Wilgy, to me, is not a person that needs 20 posts and a dozen essays to make a helpful point. I think you could have been something this game with just the number of posts you've had.

But all you have done is tunnel outrageously on one of the most towny people in the game. It screams "LOOK AT ME BEING OBSTINATE, STUBBORN, AND NOT GOING WITH THE FLOW" without really giving us any grounds to engage or test it.

This response of yours solidifies that . . . except for the Nutella read. Which I agree with. But that's beside the point.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:19 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:54 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:20 pm My suspects at this point (meaning people I'd be willing to lynch): Kylemii, Nutella, LC, marmot, wilgy.

Ask me questions if you want, I'll be home on a keyboard soon
Interesting. Why me?

I've been at a convention all weekend. There are 20 something more pages than before. I'm not catching up. I'm just going to continue to prove that Sloonei is bad and is distancing from Mac. Hazelnut is also bad.
@DrWilgy, I want to hear how Sloonei is distancing from Mac. Despite listing them both as mafia, and saying they're distancing (or Sloonei is) I don't see any connections you've drawn between the two.

I also want to hear why nutella is bad.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:17 pm
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DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:24 pm Jesus Christ guys. 5 pages on day 0. Stooooooop.

I'm going to prove to you that Sloonei is bad this game. I have a real good feeling about that. He is bad an I'm a doctor!

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:34 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:50 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:24 pm Jesus Christ guys. 5 pages on day 0. Stooooooop.

I'm going to prove to you that Sloonei is bad this game. I have a real good feeling about that. He is bad an I'm a doctor!
Also Made has wilgy as his second strongest town read on the strength of this post and nothing else (wilgy's only other contribution at the time of made's rainbow was an OT comment about jack's avatar). I guess I overlooked this post when I was discussing Made's observation about heat on me, but I don't really take this seriously since it doesn't seem like wilgy's expressing an actual suspicion of me, rather he's just shaking his fist at me for having close to 50 posts on Day 0. I'd shake my fist at me too. That's ridiculous.
I don't understand any of Made's reads, I guess, but that doesn't stop me from liking that they exist at this point.
Why did it take you so long to comment on this? Why did you provide a reason other than suspicion when I said I was suspicious of you?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:36 pm Bad guys are Hazlenut, Mac, and Sloonster.

Dis is de wae.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:03 pm I'm going to prove to you that Sloonei is bad this game. I have a real good feeling about that. He is bad an I'm a doctor!

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:11 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:07 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:03 pm Why patronize the idea of me finding symptoms of you being bad if you are good Sloonster? If you are civ the symptoms wouldnt exist. Would you want me to be chasing my tail like a puppy if I was a civilian on your team?
I want town wilgy to do what town wilgy needs to do to feel comfortable in this game. I also don't appreciate being told I should address suspicions which don't exist, hence the tone of snark.
Why judge my suspicion as nonexistent without a question? You devote such time to your stream of posts and I didn't get one until someone else drew it out and I yelled about it. Porque?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:27 pm @Sloonei your first post was too long for what it actually provided.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:21 am With no basis on what I'm voting for, the Outworld sounds like my kind of place.
Then your post following also was too long and fluffy.

Comparing your first buncha posts here to other civ Sloonei posts makes me feel that you are being non genuine here. An example of difference can be found by comparing this game to the search for Quin.

Now. Why did I have to bark for you to bat an eye?

"All I have to do is divine from what I know of you. Are you the sort of man who would put the poison into his own goblet or his enemy's? Now, a very clever man would put the poison into his own goblet because he would know that only a great fool would reach for what he was given. I am not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But you must have known I was not a great fool, you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me."

- Vizzini, The Princess Bride

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:18 am sloonizard wants to battle
wilgsparce used lock-on!
it's not very effective...

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:54 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:20 pm My suspects at this point (meaning people I'd be willing to lynch): Kylemii, Nutella, LC, marmot, wilgy.

Ask me questions if you want, I'll be home on a keyboard soon
Interesting. Why me?

I've been at a convention all weekend. There are 20 something more pages than before. I'm not catching up. I'm just going to continue to prove that Sloonei is bad and is distancing from Mac. Hazelnut is also bad.
sloonizard fainted
wilgsparce used splash
it has no effect!

wilgsparce wants to learn odor sleuth... but wilgsparce already knows 4 moves! Should a move be forgotten to make space for odor sleuth?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:43 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:35 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:17 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:54 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:20 pm My suspects at this point (meaning people I'd be willing to lynch): Kylemii, Nutella, LC, marmot, wilgy.

Ask me questions if you want, I'll be home on a keyboard soon
Interesting. Why me?

I've been at a convention all weekend. There are 20 something more pages than before. I'm not catching up. I'm just going to continue to prove that Sloonei is bad and is distancing from Mac. Hazelnut is also bad.
I don't buy excuses from you. You're the guy that has put out REASONED reads and SUBSTANTIATED arguments while literally just using smilies and quotes. I got you lynched for it in Pirate Mafia or some such, and it was a sigh of relief because you were onto us and had reasons. Wilgy, to me, is not a person that needs 20 posts and a dozen essays to make a helpful point. I think you could have been something this game with just the number of posts you've had.

But all you have done is tunnel outrageously on one of the most towny people in the game. It screams "LOOK AT ME BEING OBSTINATE, STUBBORN, AND NOT GOING WITH THE FLOW" without really giving us any grounds to engage or test it.

This response of yours solidifies that . . . except for the Nutella read. Which I agree with. But that's beside the point.

Some things never change
Easy chair, nine to five
Get ahead, stay alive
Are you going through the motions?

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:13 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:24 pm Jesus Christ guys. 5 pages on day 0. Stooooooop.

I'm going to prove to you that Sloonei is bad this game. I have a real good feeling about that. He is bad an I'm a doctor!

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:59 pm
Sloonei has been killed.

It is now Day 2. You have 48 hours to lynch someone.

Chinese Broccoli with Chinese Wine - $13.50 $9.00

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:16 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:36 pm Bad guys are Hazlenut, Mac, and Sloonster.

Dis is de wae.
Squid in Spicy Salt - $21.80 $14.00

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:58 pm @Elohcin

@DrWilgy

Please name one thing you have done to help catch any baddies.

I was very attractive.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:40 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:30 amWelp.

Welp.

Simon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:35 pm No one. I'm no villain.

But some heroes need to pull the trigger.

Someone ex0lain why we killed Sig?

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:31 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:28 pm Someone ex0lain why we killed Sig?
no

wilgy, you mentioned before you feel guilty when you draw a scum card. If I read through your posts in this game, I don't sense much self restraint. Do you feel more relaxed as town? After Sloonei's death, you haven't really flung shit anywhere. Where will you be flinging shit next?

Yes, yes, yes, and Hazelnut.

Muscle power 4 u!

MUSCLE POWAAAAAH!!!

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:57 pm Speedchuck you are scum

I can see it. The rigid belief in how I should play was odd to me. However, I couldn't tell if it was an easy to force case or speedchucks "straight-laced" mind trying to draw consistent play from me.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:09 am Voted Wilgy btw

Why would you eeeeeeeeveeeeer do thaaaaaat?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:43 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:39 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:09 am Voted Wilgy btw

Why would you eeeeeeeeveeeeer do thaaaaaat?
Defend yourself.

Imma be annoyed if we lynch you and you aren't bad.

Why?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:40 pm @sig

Consider:

1) I thought the case on you was far better than the case on Tony and nobody was voting for my higher suspects at EOD.

2) Simon is probably bad cause duh.

3) Wilgy

JoH, I think you just want me to be bad.

Hi Sig.

Sorry your dead. I still think your cute tho.

Y tho Hazelnut ;__;

Depends on the scum team.

I wouldn't.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:30 pm Speedchuck is scum

I support you.

I was about to say "bless we are killing speedchuck" now I'm all like "meh, whatever dude."

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:38 pm *looks at some recent ISO bits*

Yeah nah I'm voting Wilgy

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:21 pm I'll say it again. If Wilgy is town, I'm gonna be annoyed with him.

And here's my problem with ya JoH. You feel the need to preemptively state how you will feel on someone's lynching. Your setting an expectation of failure.

Civilians are less inclined to do this as they don't know results. Mafia, however, will do this as they know failure has to happen and seem genuine.

JoH. You are Mafia.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:32 pm Oh right rabbit replaced BWT.

Anyway Quin why is that weird? He's in the same neutral slot as Dave. I guess I put a greenish tint instead of just yellow but yeah those player slots are null reads obviously.

I wanna know why you think I'm bad. C'mon Hazlenut, I thought we were closer than this.

lapluie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:22 am Quite frankly, I dont really trust anyone other than nutella, Kyle, Jack & glorf..maybe quin
But the rest are my top suspects
Made is just voting following speed.
Drwildgy? ? Wyd????
Tony, only a mafia would say "don't lynch me you need me "

Chillin. Wondering why no one will vote JoH.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:36 am @DrWilgy Where are the goods??>

I ate them... And got reaaaaaaaaally high.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:18 pm I was not moved much at all by TSP's nutella case.

Who were you moved by?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:57 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:30 pm
lapluie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:22 am Quite frankly, I dont really trust anyone other than nutella, Kyle, Jack & glorf..maybe quin
But the rest are my top suspects
Made is just voting following speed.
Drwildgy? ? Wyd????
Tony, only a mafia would say "don't lynch me you need me "
Chillin. Wondering why no one will vote JoH.
why do you suspect jack?

His wanting to lynch me is forced. Disgenuine.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:05 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:55 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:18 pm I was not moved much at all by TSP's nutella case.
Who were you moved by?
I am currently unmoved.

Who are everyone's top two lynch candidates right now?

Jack, maybe Speedchuck but I'm not 100% on it. During my glances at the thread they are the only two that I have felt being disgenuine towards me. Speedchuck has seemed better the past day? Maybe alittle? I miss Mac.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:51 pm @DrWilgy

Why you no answer my questions?

Which one.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:07 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:42 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:57 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:30 pm
lapluie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:22 am Quite frankly, I dont really trust anyone other than nutella, Kyle, Jack & glorf..maybe quin
But the rest are my top suspects
Made is just voting following speed.
Drwildgy? ? Wyd????
Tony, only a mafia would say "don't lynch me you need me "
Chillin. Wondering why no one will vote JoH.
why do you suspect jack?
His wanting to lynch me is forced. Disgenuine.
Okay but like.... i feel like it could be argued that your view on Jack seems forced and not genuine.

So argue it. What is it based on? Mine is his need to reassure expectations of failure upon my death.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:19 pmno, my purpose isn't to argue that your case is made of paper mache. my purpose is to point out that both you and Tony have come after Jack with the same arts-and-crafts project, and he is a player I've town read for a lot of the game.

Is it a real suspicion coming from both of you? Is this something that should make me concerned about you and Tony? Is it something that should make me concerned about Jack?

I can't speak for TSP. I wasn't even aware he was suspicious of JoH. I think you should be concerned about Jack.

I wasn't saying you were arguing paper mache, rather I'd prefer you see what I had pointed out and wanted that to be the subject. I think it is important that people see what I'm seeing here.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:34 pm...yeah, I agree with Kyle here that Wilgy's accusation of Jack sounds fake. Or just no-u-ish. I mean, I guess I shouldn't get too comfortable in my strong town read of Jack bc he could be fooling me, I know he's a talented enough player, but I don't see how Wilgy thinks his suspicion is forced. Dude, you're suspicious. People are gonna wanna lynch you. If you have an actual reason to suspect Jack that you would like to contribute, then by all means do so, but so far your posts are devoid of actual content. And I don't know what "reassure expectations of failure upon my death" means.

Jack has stated multiple times "Imma be mad when you flip civ."

He's preemptively setting the expectation of failure. This is likely due to him knowing my alignment but still wanting to push my lynch.

Perhaps I can see this because I know my alignment. If getting lynched and flipping is needed to confirm my suspicion on Jack I'll die for it. I am convinced that Jack knows my alignment already though.

Speedchuck what are your JoH thoughts?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:01 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:30 pmI can't speak for TSP. I wasn't even aware he was suspicious of JoH. I think you should be concerned about Jack.

I wasn't saying you were arguing paper mache, rather I'd prefer you see what I had pointed out and wanted that to be the subject. I think it is important that people see what I'm seeing here.
but that's exactly it, I can't see what you're seeing because you have one point against Jack and haven't really discussed the rest of Jack's content. I trust jack, i think a lot of us do. but if we're all wrong and he's leading us astray I would think it would be important to push the point right?

I am doing so. Further discussion on this subject may lead us to the truth behind this one. I don't have time for a full ISO.

Looking at Jack's expectation of failure alone, what do you think of it Kyle? Are you able to read this suspicion of mine from both a Civ and a Mafia standpoint? Which one makes more sense and why?

If it's from a mafia viewpoint, is it from a teammate or not?

If it's from a civilian viewpoint, is it correct or incorrect?

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