The Syndicate

oh hey guys

most of the people who have posted so far look civ so far, but then most of them are the people who always look civ to me. Sloonei's alternate interpretation of Quin is interesting though and Quin is someone I'm always waffly on.

Made is zany as usual. Not sure what he's on about but I think he's just being Made.

Out of the so-far-civ-reads I think my strongest 3 are Sloonei, Kyle, and Jack. They're safe from my D1 vote at this point unless something changes.

oh and welcome new people! I'm getting tired of reading posts from the same 6-7 people so let's see some thoughts k

mmm forgot to mention the D0 poll... I'm totally clueless. Jay, Kyle, Jack had some good theorizing going but it mostly left me feeling clueless/trapped in a reverse psychology loop. since outworld is the baddie team, do we want to avoid it, or is there good reason to go there first? I also don't know anything about the setting either

[mention]Epignosis[/mention] the poll doesn't show an end time. Should I assume the deadline is 24 hours after you opened the thread?

... I completely forgot about this game for like eight hours, came back and read 5 more pages but there doesn't seem to have been a ton of development since then and also the poll is still going to tomorrow apparently. So I don't really have much to add atm, no particular reason to suspect anyone yet imo. I saw that Mac (I think?) said something about me so I'll find that one sec

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:43 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:02 pm oh hey guys

most of the people who have posted so far look civ so far, but then most of them are the people who always look civ to me. Sloonei's alternate interpretation of Quin is interesting though and Quin is someone I'm always waffly on.

Made is zany as usual. Not sure what he's on about but I think he's just being Made.

Out of the so-far-civ-reads I think my strongest 3 are Sloonei, Kyle, and Jack. They're safe from my D1 vote at this point unless something changes.

oh and welcome new people! I'm getting tired of reading posts from the same 6-7 people so let's see some thoughts k
Interesting that you hen picked who to make reads on/comment on after starting the post like you were about to skim read everybody.

Not sure what you mean by this? I read the whole thread before writing this post. This was just a summary of my thoughts on people as I was reading. What did I say that made you think I was "about to skim read everybody"?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:07 am nutella, please tell me of your civilian read on Jack.

Gut, I guess. I thought there was some specific post that made me feel that way from his tone or something, but I went back into his ISO and couldn't pin it down. Maybe just the way he jumped right in and put himself out there expressing opinions that were a bit against the grain, like his outworld vote reasoning and his eagerness to talk about people other than Quin.

That's not to say that I don't think Quin is a decent suspect at this point; I think the points against him have been okay so far, though I am always wary of misreading/mislynching him (especially since I tinfoiled him for so long in Mountains and he was civ the whole time). But I definitely think that Jack and Quin are non-w/w.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:53 am
The start of your post made me feel like you were going to comment on everybody but then you just commented on a few. Seemed to restrain yourself.

I don't know what to tell you man. I gave the thoughts that I had. Nothing contradictory or restrained about it.

Good to see that Jay isn't going uncriticized. I haven't seen anything out of the civ norm from him yet, but I don't want to get too comfortable. Bravo had me fooled.

Welp the poll ended without warning and I missed it. Oh well. Don't even know where I would have voted.

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:23 am nutella I take back what I said about you sitting on the fence. It doesn't read that way anymore. Instead I'm curious why your wafflyness on me is a point in favour of Sloonei's interpretation.

did I imply it was?

I talked a little bit more about you in a later post, did you see that? Basically, I'm wary of misreading you or getting too persuaded by a case especially since I tinfoiled you in Mountains and you were town, but I do think the points on you have been compelling and I'm definitely keeping an eye on you as a potential candidate for my vote. I've gotten a more-town-than-not vibe from most of your responses though. So yeah, I'm waffly.

I'm fairly occupied today (and will be tomorrow as well) so I'm keeping up with the thread but not putting a lot of time into analysis or anything. I feel better about Quin every time he posts so I don't think I'll be voting there. I haven't gotten the most stellar vibes from LC, speedchuck, or Tony, so I might go with one of those, though the votes are already pretty spread out. Looking at the player list I get the feeling we've only been talking about a subset of players, mostly those who have had more presence in the thread, and naturally most of the higher posters look more townie... idk, day 1 always feels like this and I wish I had more confident thoughts on anyone but I really don't. If I have more time later tonight I might try a rainbow but it'll be mostly yellow.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:47 pm nutella, a question for you:

In Mountain Mafia, you opened the game with a perspective of just do it on Day 1, allowing yourself to play "fast-and-loose" and voting as your whims inspired. Example

In this game you seem to be playing from a more timid, uncertain vantage point. You played very well in the mountains game and had a lot of success. Why do you think you've changed in this regard?

I did say I was going to try to vary my style more each game, lol. But yeah I do feel kind of back to my old waffly, flip-floppy, unsure-of-anything ways. Idk, haven't found my footing in this game yet, it's a bit bigger and more intimidating than Mountains and I haven't been in the same mood to play fast-and-loose like I did then (and even in that game it only lasted for the first couple days), plus I've been doing stuff irl and not thinking much about the game. I would throw a starter vote on someone just for kicks but I haven't even felt that strongly enough about anyone for more than a hot minute.

Part of me wants to follow Sloonei for all the rest of my days and second-guess my civ read of Jack, so I might consider that, but if I learned anything from Mountains it's that Sloonei isn't always right even when he's 99% confident in a case.

Nah you know what screw it, I'm standing by my previous list and throwing a vote on LC. He's not doing his thang.

Oh that's a disgusting spread.

Nutella, on the other hand, is a most delectable spread.

Glorfindel
MacDougall
Sloonei
JaggedJimmyJay
Made
Kylemii
Quin
Jackofhearts2005
Elohcin
lapluie
novaselinenever
birdwithteeth11
Dom
Gumshoe
Simon
DrWilgy
Marmot
sig
Dave
speedchuck
TonyStarkPrime
Long Con

Yeah I've mostly read Kyle as civ but the player salad question to Mac out of left field was a pretty bad look. He claimed not to be trying to change the subject but its timing as a response to Mac's suspicion of him looked sloppy and haphazard. I definitely don't like it taken in isolation; in the context of the rest of Kyle's posts it's sliiightly better but I'd still prefer it didn't exist (and I tend to agree with Mac's hot take on the general practice of such questions)

linki sloonei decent critical thoughts on Mac. I'm also seeing him as very town but like I said about Jay I don't want to get too comfortable so I'll keep your idea in mind.

wait who said Mac is "much more mellow" and what was their basis for that? much more mellow than what? I don't know what that means and it feels weird putting "Mac" and "mellow" in the same sentence. mmm smores...

and sig, I put you in the same tier as Wilgy and Marmot mostly because you haven't posted much yet so I have no reason to townread you. now that you're caught up and giving your thoughts you could maybe move up to mid-yellow

also [mention]sig[/mention] what in particular makes you feel good about LC? Some of his talk of meta/wanting to lay low D1 could be taken as genuine but I'm not sold on it.

I didn't really understand what that post was about tbh. The lack of subjects is confusing.

Oh I see, he was talking about your responses to his responses to your questions.

Ehh, I guess it reads as genuine frustration but I think it's NAI.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:52 pm
She keeps saying she's waffley in other posts, but I don't see that in her reads. What I do see is a bunch of unsubstantiated reads based on 'vibes'. Even if I agree with some of her reads, I don't recall a single substantiated case from her.

And maybe this is just me being personal, but when I responded to that first post in topic, called her out on player salad, I got nothing. It feels like what we were accusing Made of on D0, but less... genuine?

I recommend ISOing her. Hard to put into words.

My reads are usually based on vibes. There is some substance/reasoning behind them but I have a hard time putting them into words or pulling specific posts because it's usually more general/based on their whole body of posts. I don't usually do big quotey iso cases, it's just not how I play.

I'm not sure what you meant about the player salad accusation. The closest I've come to player salad is naming the three players I've gotten the worst vibes from.

Ech, a no-flip on day 1, bad for analysis. If we're assuming the outworld itself from the d0 poll is what caused it (not the outworld team), I do think Mac was more likely town and I didn't understand what others were seeing to vote for him.

The mechanics don't indicate anything. I just thought he was town.

[mention]novaselinenever[/mention] just so you know for future phases, in most games on this site we don't really accept deliberate abstinence from voting as a legit option, and repeated missed votes can lead to punishment or replacement due to non-participation. I know on some other sites (and in some games here) there is a valid "no-lynch" option but usually we expect active players to cast a vote for a player even if it's for a really weak reason. Actually, the rules of this game don't seem to call this out specifically, so maybe the hosts can clarify on their attitude toward abstaining.

the tiers seem to just be Made's version of a rainbow/how he ranks his reads? not standard terminology

Sloonei, I cannot thank you enough for what you have done for us. I hope my gratitude reaches you on the other side. I will treasure what you have given for the rest of my days.

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:13 pm Steamed Shanghai Dumplings (3) - $5.50.

Oh thanks Quin! I really appreciate this. Really, I'm touched. You know what I like.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:17 pm
Spoiler: show
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:24 pm Jesus Christ guys. 5 pages on day 0. Stooooooop.

I'm going to prove to you that Sloonei is bad this game. I have a real good feeling about that. He is bad an I'm a doctor!

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:34 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:50 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:24 pm Jesus Christ guys. 5 pages on day 0. Stooooooop.

I'm going to prove to you that Sloonei is bad this game. I have a real good feeling about that. He is bad an I'm a doctor!
Also Made has wilgy as his second strongest town read on the strength of this post and nothing else (wilgy's only other contribution at the time of made's rainbow was an OT comment about jack's avatar). I guess I overlooked this post when I was discussing Made's observation about heat on me, but I don't really take this seriously since it doesn't seem like wilgy's expressing an actual suspicion of me, rather he's just shaking his fist at me for having close to 50 posts on Day 0. I'd shake my fist at me too. That's ridiculous.
I don't understand any of Made's reads, I guess, but that doesn't stop me from liking that they exist at this point.
Why did it take you so long to comment on this? Why did you provide a reason other than suspicion when I said I was suspicious of you?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:36 pm Bad guys are Hazlenut, Mac, and Sloonster.

Dis is de wae.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:03 pm I'm going to prove to you that Sloonei is bad this game. I have a real good feeling about that. He is bad an I'm a doctor!

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:11 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:07 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:03 pm Why patronize the idea of me finding symptoms of you being bad if you are good Sloonster? If you are civ the symptoms wouldnt exist. Would you want me to be chasing my tail like a puppy if I was a civilian on your team?
I want town wilgy to do what town wilgy needs to do to feel comfortable in this game. I also don't appreciate being told I should address suspicions which don't exist, hence the tone of snark.
Why judge my suspicion as nonexistent without a question? You devote such time to your stream of posts and I didn't get one until someone else drew it out and I yelled about it. Porque?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:24 pm “The vote is the most powerful instrument ever devised by man for breaking down injustice and destroying the terrible walls which imprison men because they are different from other men.”

- Former President of the United States, Lyndon B. Johnson
Yes, I'm so excited that the hosts have gifted me with the ability to vote!

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:27 pm @Sloonei your first post was too long for what it actually provided.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:21 am With no basis on what I'm voting for, the Outworld sounds like my kind of place.
Then your post following also was too long and fluffy.

Comparing your first buncha posts here to other civ Sloonei posts makes me feel that you are being non genuine here. An example of difference can be found by comparing this game to the search for Quin.

Now. Why did I have to bark for you to bat an eye?

"All I have to do is divine from what I know of you. Are you the sort of man who would put the poison into his own goblet or his enemy's? Now, a very clever man would put the poison into his own goblet because he would know that only a great fool would reach for what he was given. I am not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But you must have known I was not a great fool, you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me."

- Vizzini, The Princess Bride

I love to receive movie references that are meaningful in context. Jay's doing a really great job using the resources that he has to provide content ( which is the best present a girl could ask for).

Speaking of clever use, I don't suppose that Quin is buying me more expensive dishes every time he sees someone he suspects, and cheaper ones when he likes them? Or perhaps the other way around? It would be nice to figure that out, but in the meantime I'm enjoying all the delicious food he's ordering.

The syndicate was so kind as to give me an incorrect rendition of my post. Here is the part that got eaten:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:24 pm “The vote is the most powerful instrument ever devised by man for breaking down injustice and destroying the terrible walls which imprison men because they are different from other men.”

- Former President of the United States, Lyndon B. Johnson

Yes, I'm so excited that the hosts have gifted me with the ability to vote!

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:39 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:14 am Kombatants

birdwithteeth11
Dave
Dom
DrWilgy
Elohcin
Glorfindel
Gumshoe
Jackofhearts2005
JaggedJimmyJay
Kylemii
lapluie
Long Con
MacDougall - Lynched Day 1 - ???
Made
Marmot
novaselinenever
nutella
Quin
sig
Simon
Sloonei
speedchuck
TonyStarkPrime
"Is rest all you ever think about? If you want that vacation, earn it!"
"Is rest all you ever think about? If you want that vacation, earn it!"
"Is rest all you ever think about? If you want that vacation, earn it!"
"You almost met the tip of my lance."
"Escape? I'm not going anywhere. I came here for you. I came to defeat you."
"You know, I like you, and I feel I can trust you completely"
"Is rest all you ever think about? If you want that vacation, earn it!"
"I am Ephraim of Renais, a prince and skilled spearman. So, point me at my enemy. I'll get to work."
"You almost met the tip of my lance."
"I'll provide you with a messy end to your sorry life."
"Is rest all you ever think about? If you want that vacation, earn it!"
"Let the fools spread gossip. The rest of us have work to do."
"I always worry about my sister, Eirika. If I'm not there to protect her, anything could happen."
"Watch and see. I don’t pick fights I can’t win."
"Watch and see. I don’t pick fights I can’t win."
"Is rest all you ever think about? If you want that vacation, earn it!"
"Let the fools spread gossip. The rest of us have work to do."
"Let the fools spread gossip. The rest of us have work to do."
"There’s no point in lingering here."
"Is rest all you ever think about? If you want that vacation, earn it!"
"I always worry about my sister, Eirika. If I'm not there to protect her, anything could happen."
"There’s no point in lingering here."
"Watch and see. I don’t pick fights I can’t win."

I'm so pleased that I've been blessed with friends who are so clever and adaptive to these chaotic times. I'm very impressed at this craft and I truly appreciate your presentation.

Made wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:35 am
lapluie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:08 am Guys whats up with the shit posting. & who voted for who,I can't tell in the poll
laps isn't cursed?

Hmm indeed... Made has bestowed upon me a fascinating insight. I wonder indeed what may have prevented lapluie from enjoying the chaosrealm's shower of gifts. But what accounts for Glorfindel's ignorance?

And Iron Man sir, I am in fact the lucky recipient of a rather silly (if a little less obvious) curse.

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:52 am Nutella: Mildly afflicted (claimed, not evident)

"Not evident"? Are you not seeing this wonderful gift that the chaosrealm has given me? It was kind enough to offer me something that's a bit easier to work content into than what other players have gotten, but I believe I have put my gift to use pretty noticeably in all of my participation today.

Well, it's the thought that counts. Thanks Glorfindel for trying, even though maybe you don't quite get me. But why do you think you didn't get a present? Are you on Santa's naughty list?

And did Lapluie really also not get a present, or is hers perhaps actually something like "act bewildered"?

Perhaps I should take another look at what we know of the roles; maybe the Chaosrealm doesn't know everybody's address and so some certain people missed out on the exchange. Or maybe Made was right and the mail was intercepted.

omg dunya's literally the best gift giver ever! I'm so lucky that in addition to all the cool items she sent me she is offering up her mad skillz in my presence

I really appreciate this luxurious item I've been given that is enfranchisement, and I'm really excited to try it out, but I'm not quite sure what to do with it yet. So far I've heard of people using this product on things such as DrWilgys and TonyStarkPrimes, and from my perspective those are both decent enough choices that I might consider. Not sure I'd waste such a lovely treat on the completely absent toothed bird, but I'd be open to seeing how it might work on a Dave.

I think for now I will test out my wonderful gift on Tony. I wasn't impressed with him on day 1, and although one could argue in his favor that he has been trying to participate more recently despite the... shall we say... stark limitations of his own "gift" today, I have also noticed that one of my other suspects, speedchuck, is voting for the candidate who is currently one vote ahead of Tony. That's about as sufficient a reason as I feel I'm likely to come up with on this day of chaos. So, thanks again hosts for the beautiful shiny poll, that was really thoughtful of you and I think it'll look great on Iron Man.

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:29 am
lapluie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:44 am However I feel that Nutella is trying to give us clues? maybe we should listen to her. She has casted her vote on tony .
7 am, alarm goes off
Man, I'm tired, I don't wanna get up
Only one thing to look forward to
My Nutella sandwich at twenty to
Go down stairs, get a knife
Nutella for brekkie, that sounds nice
IT'S BREAKFAST, most important meal of the day
Nutella sammich, is there any other way?
First step, you gotta find some bread
Second step, you gotta toast that shhh
Third step, put the knife in the Nutella

dunya, I know you put a lot of thought and care into this present but... it just isn't really me, you know? sorry. hey, valentine's day is next month, maybe you can make up for this ...miscalculated gift with some nice chocolates?

oooooooo now dunya has given me a really beautiful case. it's shiny and elegant enough to make me change my vote to sig

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:03 pm @dunya @Kylemii @nutella @Long Con @Jackofhearts2005 @JaggedJimmyJay @Simon

It's a strange aberration, this brainstorm of youth
Though it's lost in translation from fancy to truth
It's hopelessly human, both inside and out
A joyous occasion, no reason to doubt
It's easy somehow, what once was elusive is calling me now

I'm really excited to open this box of better ideas that speedchuck sent me!

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:19 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:06 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:03 pm @dunya @Kylemii @nutella @Long Con @Jackofhearts2005 @JaggedJimmyJay @Simon

It's a strange aberration, this brainstorm of youth
Though it's lost in translation from fancy to truth
It's hopelessly human, both inside and out
A joyous occasion, no reason to doubt
It's easy somehow, what once was elusive is calling me now
I'm really excited to open this box of better ideas that speedchuck sent me!
It's been a long and amazing Time, how it's wasted is such a crime
And the stories we heard Still echo in the distance
Filled with promises and Pain, we had everything to gain
But the pride that comes before a fall is with us

Lights are on and nobodY's home, we've gone from color to monochrome
Like some faded photograph with ghOstly faces
Whether enemy or a friend, it's the message that we send
We will never change withoUt until we change within

Back when the World was so young (when the world was young)
To the day when the fIrst song was sung (when the world was young)
We chose our own way to bLack, white or GraY
When the world was young

Are we learning from the past or has it alL been already Cast
Who can change the course of a war against all reason
There was one prevailing wind and we said we've got to make a stand
And now the barrier's between us for a treason

With the exception of myself, those are some great ideas you've packed in there! But while I don't feel great about any of those three on general vibes, nobody has given me any shinier case than the one dunya gave me that contained a summary of suspicious content from sig on gorgeous stationery.

Epi got me a pet rabbit?! So soft, and yet so stinky....

Quin, the oysters are delicious, thank you -- but why have you given your vote to lapluie?

welp so both sig and mac were civ. :\

that sure was a stressful day phase, lol. I had it easier than some other people but it was still hard to phrase my posts. Had fun with it though. My curse was to "act like I had received a gift" (a reference to the Holiday Goodie Exchange which I ran this year).

rabbit8 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:05 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:55 pm Were lapluie and Glor the only 2 unaffected ?

rabbit8 you received your role before end or day. Did it have any strange day 2 posting stipulation ?
Holy shit! Love the notification thing. Do you have to @ the name for it? Do you have to use the correct spelling and shit?
I'm on page 3...
No... Not that I'm aware of.

You type @ and start typing the beginning of the name and it'll pop up to autocomplete. Also, if you quote a post with a mention (as I'm doing now) you should delete the @ or it'll keep popping up

[mention]Kylemii[/mention], I haven't played either vocaroo game, but my impression from what I've heard is that Eloh tended to participate more in vocaroo than she normally does in traditional text-based games. I've seen her normal style here, nothing alignment-indicative either way.

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:11 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:09 pm Kylemii, I haven't played either vocaroo game, but my impression from what I've heard is that Eloh tended to participate more in vocaroo than she normally does in traditional text-based games. I've seen her normal style here, nothing alignment-indicative either way.
what about her participation in mountains?

What about it? She was bad in that game, and I think she participated a fair amount but did her usual always-being-behind/catching-up. I don't really have substantial insights about her meta, but if anything I could say that since it looks like she tried to post a lot more in that game when she was bad, she looks neutral with the few posts she has here so far, but she could easily be trying to hide behind that or distancing herself from her play in Mountains. Idk, what do you think?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:15 pm In general after that day I am more suspicious of those who tried to use the curses as an excuse for making easy arguments or not trying to participate in discussion.

And who would you say fits that description?

ninja'd

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:16 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:24 pm Anyway, talk to me about the notion that Wilgy, famed WIFOM overlord, b/s'ed about suspecting Sloonei all day and then killed him.
I buy it.

Moreover, Wilgy has shown himself capable of busting open a scum team while only posting smilies but when given that post restriction today did exactly nothing when asked to contribute.

Now this is a decent argument.

That's actually a rather compelling point on Quin. I hadn't really thought of it that way but it is fishy. I've felt good about him otherwise though.

I need to figure out whether I'm more suspicious of wilgy or speedchuck because it's really looking like they're not w/w.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:14 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:07 pm That's actually a rather compelling point on Quin. I hadn't really thought of it that way but it is fishy. I've felt good about him otherwise though.
I don't like this post. screams "wishy washy yucky distancing" to me.

Okay. It is in fact wishy-washy. That's how my reads often are, that's how my reads on Quin often are, and that's how my read of Quin is right now. Not distancing or yucky though. Just indecisive.

wtf happened to made anyway? he made like 2 vocaroo posts on day 2 and then disappeared

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:02 pm
Glorfindel wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:56 pm I have extensive history with Sig in Mafia games going back many years and no one would be happier to lynch him than I (not that I’m in anywa vindictive, you understand). Again, he is afflicted and I don’t really think the case against him is strong.

Eye Fillets in Honey Black Pepper Sauce - $20.90

just for completeness I feel that this post belongs in dunya's summary/in response to quin saying she's misrepresenting him. in this post he agrees with glorf that the case on sig is weak (not necessarily that he thinks sig is town, but this does sound like he is arguing against the sig lynch)

Quin what do you mean by "Wilgy is not an Epi or a Long Con"? Dunya is just saying that Wilgy would do it for the wifom, and I'm sure you're familiar with Wilgy's history of wifom.

...linki so you're saying he wouldn't do it because of the wifom? what

Oh hey nobody died!

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:19 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:16 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:11 pmBoo!
Oh man tell me you're back.
Only in the nether region.

Yoooo

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