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by Iron_Dwarf
Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:30 am
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Topic: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Game Over]
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 0]

lapluie wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:15 am
MacDougall wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:09 am Btw i have no idea what is going on in this game
s a m e
Just opened the thread and what is this? :omg:
by Iron_Dwarf
Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:31 am
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 0]

Let's do this D&D style, I'd like to be a figher or valiant Knight please!
by Iron_Dwarf
Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:23 pm
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 0]

dunya wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:39 am p.s. all of the rymers have checked in (except evil @Sloonei who shall not be named after this post until his return :pout:). how cool! *sniffles*
The good old days when there were vanilla townies. :meany:
by Iron_Dwarf
Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:28 pm
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 0]

dunya wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:10 pm
gwilikers6 wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:09 pm "7 years ago"

God that's weird to think about.
I know! It's certainly not where I saw myself as I push 30, but it's ok. :p
Don't remind me I signed up for RYM almost 14 years ago! :omg:
by Iron_Dwarf
Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:16 am
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Topic: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Game Over]
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 0]

Pick me! Pick me! [mention]Dr. White[/mention] You have a 2/3 chance to give me one of my requested roles. :)
by Iron_Dwarf
Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:16 am
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Topic: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Game Over]
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 0]

gwilikers6 wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:00 am I wish I had a job that would allow me to play mafia while I work.
We need a pro mafia league.
by Iron_Dwarf
Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:17 am
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Topic: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Game Over]
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 0]

Just like on RYM, rundontwalk is posting like a madman aka #ballstothewall. And dunya can't wait to start digging around in everyone's post histories.
by Iron_Dwarf
Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:18 am
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Topic: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Game Over]
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 0]

Just as a heads up: Tomorrow the 11th I won't be able to post a lot because I'm celebrating carnival.
by Iron_Dwarf
Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:04 pm
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Topic: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Game Over]
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 0]

But shall I receive?
by Iron_Dwarf
Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:40 pm
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Topic: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Game Over]
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 0]

Kylemii wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:32 pm so that makes Colin the fighter right
If I understood correctly that he's the only one left and the fighter is the only role left, yes.
by Iron_Dwarf
Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:41 pm
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Topic: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Game Over]
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 0]

Marmot wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:21 pm
dunya wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:00 pm Iron_Dwarf asked for it.
@Iron_Dwarf, have the Knight.
:fist:
by Iron_Dwarf
Sat Feb 10, 2018 4:22 pm
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Topic: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Game Over]
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 0]

Marmot wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:47 pm
Iron_Dwarf wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:41 pm
Marmot wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:21 pm
dunya wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:00 pm Iron_Dwarf asked for it.
@Iron_Dwarf, have the Knight.
:fist:
Did I fuck up?
I interpreted the emote as a celebratory fist :) So you did not fuck up at all!
by Iron_Dwarf
Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:04 am
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Topic: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Game Over]
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 0]

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:44 am
Iron_Dwarf wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:17 am Just like on RYM, rundontwalk is posting like a madman aka #ballstothewall. And dunya can't wait to start digging around in everyone's post histories.
Hey Dwarf, what do these observations mean to you as it pertains to those two players' alignments?
There was no particular judgment made here. It's their M.O. every game basically.

Also, this will be my last post for Sunday probably.
by Iron_Dwarf
Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:47 pm
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Topic: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Game Over]
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 0]

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:53 pm
Iron_Dwarf wrote: Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:04 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:44 am
Iron_Dwarf wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:17 am Just like on RYM, rundontwalk is posting like a madman aka #ballstothewall. And dunya can't wait to start digging around in everyone's post histories.
Hey Dwarf, what do these observations mean to you as it pertains to those two players' alignments?
There was no particular judgment made here. It's their M.O. every game basically.

Also, this will be my last post for Sunday probably.
Dwarf loses a point for saying things just to say things.
This was just banter because I was reminiscing about the good old days of playing mafia on RYM.
by Iron_Dwarf
Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:49 pm
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Topic: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Game Over]
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 1]

rundontwalk wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:38 pm
nutella wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:36 pm @rundontwalk I do not think he is as likely to be scum now since he pointed out how his role works and how it would be hard to fake (though that still has to be proven). He was my top suspect, but I am backing off now for good reason.
Back in my day I faked being the most powerful town player as scum (town cop). Nothing is too difficult to fake.
#ballstothewall
by Iron_Dwarf
Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:50 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Game Over]
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 1]

dunya wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:41 am I wonder if some people realized what roles they were assigning other players. Specifically: Epi giving sig Wyvern Rider, nutella giving TSP Shaman, and JJJ giving gwilikers6 Monk.

I ask this because, honestly, I misunderstood my role when I asked for it. I thought it was a straight out cop role, but it feels more like another one of those role cops made less significant / bastardized when you have townies from badguyia and scummies from goodguyia. :-/

Those three roles are the most offensive scum hunting roles we have.
I for one requested fighter/knight because I like the sound of those roles. Can imagine that others with a similar initial bewilderment also just randomly picked stuff.
by Iron_Dwarf
Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:53 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Game Over]
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 1]

nutella wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:46 pm @DrWilgy
@Iron_Dwarf
@lapluie
@rabbit8

at least one of these people has got to be mafia. get in here and talk :srsnod:
Epignosis wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:02 pm I have powered through all 31 pages of this thread. I will never do that again. My eyeballs are bleeding. :|

I'll have some things to say later this evening after I have bathed and replenished my strength. For now:

@ColinIsCool
@DrWilgyl
@Iron_Dwarfl
@lapluiel
@rabbit8l
@rundontwalkl

These individuals have not named their four hypothetical teammates. I would like to hear them by tonight.
Kites wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:22 am i remember @Iron_Dwarf being a quiet lurker when he is a baddie :p . he did give a valid reason why he can’t post on sunday but do join us
Let's get this out of the way. I gave a heads up that I would be out celebrating carnival, a huge event in the south of the Netherlands. This meant I was out drinking alcoholic beverages, catching up with old friends IRL and without the ability to browse the internet as I didn't bring my laptop. Regardless of whether I am town or scum, I would have behaved in the exact same manner. My lack of posting is entirely due to this, so it would feel unfair to make anything more out of it.
by Iron_Dwarf
Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:55 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Game Over]
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 1]

Someone asked about my mafia dream team if I had to pick. Heavily biased towards my fellow RYM people.

dunya
rundontwalk
JJJ
MacDougall
by Iron_Dwarf
Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:00 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Game Over]
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 1]

Random tidbits about people. If people want me to elaborate on some, please say so.

MacDougall - Feels shady, but he had the problem of being away on vacation so may not have the time to properly explain himself
Dragon D Luffy - Feels shady, like throwing bits around and see what sticks
rabbit 8 - He is quiet and didn't have a valid excuse to be so
epignosis - His behavior feels a bit off
Long Con - Feels like he's flipflopping a bit on his reads
rundontwalk - #ballstothewall

As much as day 1 is the traditional crapshoot, I will go with voting Dragon D Luffy for now.

VOTE DRAGON D LUFFY
by Iron_Dwarf
Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:04 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Game Over]
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 1]

I think this was the most recent tally. Please correct me if wrong.

AUBGERGINE TALLY

[2] Marmot - Long Con , rundontwalk
[1] rabbit8 - colonialbob
[1] Kylemii - TonyStarkPrime
[1] TonyStarkPrime - nutella
[1] sprityo - Dragon D. Luffy
[1] Quin - dunya
[1] Dr_White - JaggedJimmyJay
[2] Epignosis - Kites, Marmot
[1] ColinIsCool - Epignosis
[1] Dragon D. Luffy - Iron_Dwarf
[/b]
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Not Voting: ColinIsCool, Dr. White, DrWilgy, gwilikers6, Kenway, Kylemii, lapluie, MacDougall, Quin, rabbit8, sig, sprityo
by Iron_Dwarf
Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:06 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Game Over]
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 1]

nutella wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:04 pm
Iron_Dwarf wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:00 pm Random tidbits about people. If people want me to elaborate on some, please say so.

MacDougall - Feels shady, but he had the problem of being away on vacation so may not have the time to properly explain himself
Dragon D Luffy - Feels shady, like throwing bits around and see what sticks
rabbit 8 - He is quiet and didn't have a valid excuse to be so
epignosis - His behavior feels a bit off
Long Con - Feels like he's flipflopping a bit on his reads
rundontwalk - #ballstothewall

As much as day 1 is the traditional crapshoot, I will go with voting Dragon D Luffy for now.

VOTE DRAGON D LUFFY
you like salad huh :evileye:
Nutella pancakes are good too.:P
by Iron_Dwarf
Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:07 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Game Over]
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 1]

dunya wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:03 pm
Iron_Dwarf wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:00 pm Random tidbits about people. If people want me to elaborate on some, please say so.

MacDougall - Feels shady, but he had the problem of being away on vacation so may not have the time to properly explain himself
Dragon D Luffy - Feels shady, like throwing bits around and see what sticks
rabbit 8 - He is quiet and didn't have a valid excuse to be so
epignosis - His behavior feels a bit off
Long Con - Feels like he's flipflopping a bit on his reads
rundontwalk - #ballstothewall

As much as day 1 is the traditional crapshoot, I will go with voting Dragon D Luffy for now.

VOTE DRAGON D LUFFY
I'd like your opinions on nutella and ColinIsCool in 5, 4, 3....
Nutella - Feels all over the place
Coliniscool - Seems earnest, town
by Iron_Dwarf
Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:08 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Game Over]
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 1]

nutella wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:06 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:03 pm
nutella wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:02 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:56 pm
nutella wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:52 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:48 pm nutella, why do you think Epi and Colin are both civilians?
because there's no baddie motive that makes sense for what either of them are doing. (and because I have town read both of them for other reasons)
I don't agree with the former. What are the other reasons?
Epi is doing his "I don't care what you think" schtick, and Colin has provided a couple other original thoughts/insights and overall his iso gave me town feels.
Share with us the minutes between your post declaring intent to iso Colin and your brief summary post of his iso plz?
I don't understand this? do you want the amount of time it took me to write that post? I don't do elaborate iso analyses like some other people, I just skim it and write out general impressions, maybe with one or two quotes, so it doesn't take very long :shrug:
But if asked you would be able to come up with some more argumentation I presume?
by Iron_Dwarf
Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:09 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Game Over]
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 1]

I think this was the most recent tally. Please correct me if wrong.

AUBGERGINE TALLY

[1] Marmot - Long Con
[1] rabbit8 - colonialbob
[1] Kylemii - TonyStarkPrime
[1] TonyStarkPrime - nutella
[1] sprityo - Dragon D. Luffy
[1] Quin - dunya
[1] Dr_White - JaggedJimmyJay
[2] Epignosis - Kites, Marmot
[1] ColinIsCool - Epignosis
[1] Dragon D. Luffy - Iron_Dwarf
[2] nutella - rundontwalk, MacDougall
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Not Voting: ColinIsCool, Dr. White, DrWilgy, gwilikers6, Kenway, Kylemii, lapluie, Quin, rabbit8, sig, sprityo
by Iron_Dwarf
Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:10 pm
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 1]

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:09 pm [VOTE: All y'all should use these vote tags Marmot made. They'll be very easy to catch for talliers.] aubergine
Sorry what were those tags again?
by Iron_Dwarf
Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:30 am
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Topic: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Game Over]
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 1]

Epignosis wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:50 pm
Iron_Dwarf wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:00 pm epignosis - His behavior feels a bit off
Off from what?

And how is it a bit off?

What are the degrees of offness?

What behavior would be "on?"
From the start it seems you were mainly fishing for others to step up and talk. This makes you harder to read.

Then you went after Colin, but my read on him is that he's town. And now you've changed gear.

You also are doing this gambit with your misdirect power. If you indeed have it, why use it on day 1 when cases generally speaking are based on less solid foundations than later in the game? It feels like a waste.

You are also quite silent about nutella, who at the moment is the one most likely to be lynched.

I don't really know what your end game is with all these actions. Feels like sowing fear, uncertainty and doubt.
by Iron_Dwarf
Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:32 am
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 1]

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:17 am I'm on Page 34 and I hate the discussion about Epi's exercise. Hate it hate it hate it.

Can you guys be just a little patient and let him finish it so we can judge whether the results are good or not? If they are not you can vote for him all you want. But voting him now because you can't see the usefulness of something that has been advertized as having a hidden goal is moronic. Voting for him because he is risking being night killed is triple moronic. For all I know this exercise could end in day 1, when every active player answers it. Or he could be night killed, but then that means he was... a civ?

You don't lynch someone to prevent mafia from killing them, that's almost as bad as the idea that a civ has to resign themselves to get lynched.

If Epi is a wagon I will make whatever vote is necessary to prevent him from being lynched. Because right now my curiosity wants me to know how this exercise ends.
Epi's gambit just feels like unnecessary risk to me. Why are you so adamant on continuing with it? Just because you are curious?
by Iron_Dwarf
Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:34 am
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 1]

Dragon D. Luffy is still on my personal list of suspect people. But I will UNVOTE DRAGON D. LUFFY.

Epignosis is playing this strange game with us and awfully silent about the nr. 1 in votes. And insisting on a changing list of people he wants to lynch instead, while there is no momentum around either of those.

Therefore:

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine
by Iron_Dwarf
Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:35 am
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 1]

MacDougall wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:33 am
Iron_Dwarf wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:30 am
Epignosis wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:50 pm
Iron_Dwarf wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:00 pm epignosis - His behavior feels a bit off
Off from what?

And how is it a bit off?

What are the degrees of offness?

What behavior would be "on?"
I don't really know what your end game is with all these actions. Feels like sowing fear, uncertainty and doubt.
Welcome to Epi101.
That may be, but the point still stands.
by Iron_Dwarf
Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:36 am
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Topic: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Game Over]
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 1]

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:35 am
Iron_Dwarf wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:32 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:17 am I'm on Page 34 and I hate the discussion about Epi's exercise. Hate it hate it hate it.

Can you guys be just a little patient and let him finish it so we can judge whether the results are good or not? If they are not you can vote for him all you want. But voting him now because you can't see the usefulness of something that has been advertized as having a hidden goal is moronic. Voting for him because he is risking being night killed is triple moronic. For all I know this exercise could end in day 1, when every active player answers it. Or he could be night killed, but then that means he was... a civ?

You don't lynch someone to prevent mafia from killing them, that's almost as bad as the idea that a civ has to resign themselves to get lynched.

If Epi is a wagon I will make whatever vote is necessary to prevent him from being lynched. Because right now my curiosity wants me to know how this exercise ends.
Epi's gambit just feels like unnecessary risk to me. Why are you so adamant on continuing with it? Just because you are curious?
Risk?

What does it risk?
Throwing away a really powerful ability on day 1 when we do not have any conclusive reads.
by Iron_Dwarf
Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:42 am
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Topic: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Game Over]
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Views: 317076

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 1]

dunya wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:37 am
Iron_Dwarf wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:00 pm Random tidbits about people. If people want me to elaborate on some, please say so.

MacDougall - Feels shady, but he had the problem of being away on vacation so may not have the time to properly explain himself
Dragon D Luffy - Feels shady, like throwing bits around and see what sticks
rabbit 8 - He is quiet and didn't have a valid excuse to be so
epignosis - His behavior feels a bit off
Long Con - Feels like he's flipflopping a bit on his reads
rundontwalk - #ballstothewall

As much as day 1 is the traditional crapshoot, I will go with voting Dragon D Luffy for now.

VOTE DRAGON D LUFFY
6 calls for shadiness. Not 1 civ cred. Not 5 scum names. 6. That is relevant to me.

Iron_Dwarf was prodded by Epi, Iron_Dwarf bites back without flinching. Cowards hide, civs don't got nuthin' to hide. I'm curious about your rundontwalk read and what it means and how you're applying #ballstothewall. I'm assuming it's in negative light, if the gist of your list is anything to go by so walk me through it.
Sorry to disappoint you and maybe I had to be clearer, but the rdw read was meant as a joke as he's the one who's using that hashtag all the time. :p
by Iron_Dwarf
Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:48 am
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 1]

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:42 am
Iron_Dwarf wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:00 pm Random tidbits about people. If people want me to elaborate on some, please say so.

MacDougall - Feels shady, but he had the problem of being away on vacation so may not have the time to properly explain himself
Dragon D Luffy - Feels shady, like throwing bits around and see what sticks
rabbit 8 - He is quiet and didn't have a valid excuse to be so
epignosis - His behavior feels a bit off
Long Con - Feels like he's flipflopping a bit on his reads
rundontwalk - #ballstothewall

As much as day 1 is the traditional crapshoot, I will go with voting Dragon D Luffy for now.

VOTE DRAGON D LUFFY
OMGUS aside, this list feels pingy specially since he picked exactly one inactive player to call bad, ignored the rest, and posted some sentences on others that have very little meaning. "his behavior feels off" and "he's flip-flopping" hardly mean much. Ironically, the case on yours truly is the best one of this list.
These were one sentence summaries of my first hunches. And with more information that came in I elaborated on epignosis just now.
by Iron_Dwarf
Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:34 pm
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 1]

rundontwalk wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:30 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:28 pm Actually no. Screw this. I'm not voting someone with zero posts. I never do that.

[VOTE: Kenway] aubergine

Will wait to see how this ends.
Throwaway vote and unwillingness to make a stand despite on last page saying you would save Epi is noted
This does not help me in shedding my suspicions of DDL at all.
by Iron_Dwarf
Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:35 pm
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 1]

TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:34 am Is there a potential civ reason for Epi lying about having a lynch switch?
Maybe to get people riled up and forcing their hands?
by Iron_Dwarf
Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:38 pm
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 1]

Kylemii wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:33 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:23 am- And the lynch manipulator issue, which can be explained by two possibilities. One, Epi is lying, and if so I want to see why. Probably linked to the exercise. Second, he is telling the truth, and if so, we are powerless to stop him. So I'll just ignore it, wait to see what he is cooking, and keep playing the game as if this wasn't a factor.
agreed
There is only one way to find out the second point (lynching). And as in regards to the first point, it's better to be safe than sorry.
by Iron_Dwarf
Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:39 pm
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 1]

colonialbob wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:38 pm
Iron_Dwarf wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:36 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:35 am
Iron_Dwarf wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:32 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:17 am I'm on Page 34 and I hate the discussion about Epi's exercise. Hate it hate it hate it.

Can you guys be just a little patient and let him finish it so we can judge whether the results are good or not? If they are not you can vote for him all you want. But voting him now because you can't see the usefulness of something that has been advertized as having a hidden goal is moronic. Voting for him because he is risking being night killed is triple moronic. For all I know this exercise could end in day 1, when every active player answers it. Or he could be night killed, but then that means he was... a civ?

You don't lynch someone to prevent mafia from killing them, that's almost as bad as the idea that a civ has to resign themselves to get lynched.

If Epi is a wagon I will make whatever vote is necessary to prevent him from being lynched. Because right now my curiosity wants me to know how this exercise ends.
Epi's gambit just feels like unnecessary risk to me. Why are you so adamant on continuing with it? Just because you are curious?
Risk?

What does it risk?
Throwing away a really powerful ability on day 1 when we do not have any conclusive reads.
@Iron_Dwarf please explain why a lynch switch is such a powerful civ ability
If you have obtained good information about the alignments of different players you can prevent a misguided bandwagon forming on an innocent player.
by Iron_Dwarf
Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:40 pm
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Topic: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Game Over]
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 1]

I still haven't really heard Epignosis talking about nutella.
by Iron_Dwarf
Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:44 pm
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Topic: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Game Over]
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 1]

TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:19 pm
colonialbob wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:22 am @TonyStarkPrime reads?

Dunya Town
JJJ scum
Epi ???
Colin null
Kyle Mafia but I can’t explain it
DDL maybe scum
Missing players scum
Nutella Town
Quin town
Kenway town
LongCon scumish
People were tossing around the word salad a lot earlier in the thread, all these comprehensive (rainbow) lists should be seen as salad too then to be consistent.
by Iron_Dwarf
Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:47 am
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 1]

No lynch is a surprising outcome to me. Epignosis was not entirely truthful about his powers, but I guess this was some sort of crazy gambit as I already pointed out earlier. Still wondering why he chose to execute the stop, because people were building cases on nutella and Quin. Sure, it may be better to not lynch on Day 1 because a civ is more likely to be targeted, but as far as Day 1 cases go it was more than nothing.
by Iron_Dwarf
Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:49 am
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 1]

About Epi's poll. Personally I picked the 4 because I know them from RYM, the motivation was to get the team back together and didn't have a lot to do with strategic considerations. Wondering in how far others did so as well. Plus, the few scum there are in the list can distort it in a significant way already. And lastly, this is all hypothetical and you can't really say that people would have picked those persons when being the don.

Therefore, I don't really see a whole lot of use for the list.
by Iron_Dwarf
Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:50 am
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 1]

Voted for ColinIsCool in the poll. He feels like a genuine town. Can't really point to anything suspicious in his post history. Better safe than sorry. If dunya is indeed civ, she is a valuable asset, but you still run the risk she might be scum. Leaning towards the former, but it remains risky.
by Iron_Dwarf
Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:52 am
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 1]

Inclined for now to give Epi the benefit of the doubt because preventing a lynch on Day 1 where civs are more likely to die is a cogent argument. But he remains on my radar.
by Iron_Dwarf
Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:03 am
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 1]

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:16 am
Iron_Dwarf wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:49 am About Epi's poll. Personally I picked the 4 because I know them from RYM, the motivation was to get the team back together and didn't have a lot to do with strategic considerations. Wondering in how far others did so as well. Plus, the few scum there are in the list can distort it in a significant way already. And lastly, this is all hypothetical and you can't really say that people would have picked those persons when being the don.

Therefore, I don't really see a whole lot of use for the list.
Ok if I see one more person saying the list thing is worthless because it's hypothetical I'm gonna flip.

This is like when people in real life say polls are meaningless because they didn't get personally interviewed.

There is math here, people. A real mathematical thorem that says when you pick a sample size big enough, you can actually infer things about real life with a controllable degree of certainity.
My point is that this thought exercise is based on shoddy foundations. And this is not comparable to e.g. a political poll at all.
by Iron_Dwarf
Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:08 am
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 1]

dunya wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:13 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:10 am
dunya wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:03 am an RYM don won't choose me over JJJ because I am a bad scum player. I've won twice as scum ever, I believe
JJJ, Mac, Kenway, Kites and Iron Dward said they would. If there are any baddies among them they are likely lying. But what about the civs?

Also Kites and Mac would pick you over Jay, Kenway might, and Iron Dwarf would pick you both. Only gwilkers would pass on you. Rest would either randomize or didn't respond.
I'm asking them to be serious and not just choose me because they missed me and I'm way cooler than Jay. :keys: Like, be a don for 15 minutes and go through the player list and really decide. :mafia:
Every RYM person is equally cool in my book. :beer:
by Iron_Dwarf
Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:21 pm
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 1]

Marmot wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:02 pm
Iron_Dwarf wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:08 am
dunya wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:13 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:10 am
dunya wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:03 am an RYM don won't choose me over JJJ because I am a bad scum player. I've won twice as scum ever, I believe
JJJ, Mac, Kenway, Kites and Iron Dward said they would. If there are any baddies among them they are likely lying. But what about the civs?

Also Kites and Mac would pick you over Jay, Kenway might, and Iron Dwarf would pick you both. Only gwilkers would pass on you. Rest would either randomize or didn't respond.
I'm asking them to be serious and not just choose me because they missed me and I'm way cooler than Jay. :keys: Like, be a don for 15 minutes and go through the player list and really decide. :mafia:
Every RYM person is equally cool in my book. :beer:
Does that make me cool? :mafia:
If you're on RYM yes. If you join RYM just now, also yes. :beer:
by Iron_Dwarf
Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:22 pm
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 1]

Kylemii wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:56 pm
Iron_Dwarf wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:50 am Voted for ColinIsCool in the poll. He feels like a genuine town. Can't really point to anything suspicious in his post history. Better safe than sorry. If dunya is indeed civ, she is a valuable asset, but you still run the risk she might be scum. Leaning towards the former, but it remains risky.
wouldn't the same thing be true about Colin?
Dunya is quite prolific and dictating a lot of where the discussion goes.

And as I said, I cannot point to anything in Colins history thats really suspicious.
by Iron_Dwarf
Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:31 pm
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 1]

Kylemii wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:26 pm
Iron_Dwarf wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:22 pm
Kylemii wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:56 pm
Iron_Dwarf wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:50 am Voted for ColinIsCool in the poll. He feels like a genuine town. Can't really point to anything suspicious in his post history. Better safe than sorry. If dunya is indeed civ, she is a valuable asset, but you still run the risk she might be scum. Leaning towards the former, but it remains risky.
wouldn't the same thing be true about Colin?
Dunya is quite prolific and dictating a lot of where the discussion goes.

And as I said, I cannot point to anything in Colins history thats really suspicious.
sorry, I'll clarify. don't you also run the risk that Colin is scum?
Well I believe that based on my reads I regard dunya as a riskier prospect than Colin. In rainbow terms green vs. green/orange.
by Iron_Dwarf
Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:45 pm
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 1]

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:32 pm
Iron_Dwarf wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:31 pm Well I believe that based on my reads I regard dunya as a riskier prospect than Colin. In rainbow terms green vs. green/orange.
What do you consider the most suspicious thing about dunya?
In short, it's hard to get a read on dunya. Her post count is insanely high and because of this she is steering a lot of the conversation. I feel like people are a bit too eager to give her a free pass as (super) town.

I'd like to point out again that this is a minor concern that makes me put her in green/orange territory. I'm not reading her as scum atm, but she's not out of the woods yet.
by Iron_Dwarf
Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:09 pm
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 1]

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:46 pm
Iron_Dwarf wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:45 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:32 pm
Iron_Dwarf wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:31 pm Well I believe that based on my reads I regard dunya as a riskier prospect than Colin. In rainbow terms green vs. green/orange.
What do you consider the most suspicious thing about dunya?
In short, it's hard to get a read on dunya. Her post count is insanely high and because of this she is steering a lot of the conversation. I feel like people are a bit too eager to give her a free pass as (super) town.

I'd like to point out again that this is a minor concern that makes me put her in green/orange territory. I'm not reading her as scum atm, but she's not out of the woods yet.
How do you read me?
You are very analytical and putting people under a lot of scrutiny. Town.
by Iron_Dwarf
Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:50 pm
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Topic: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Game Over]
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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 1]

dunya wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:22 pm
Iron_Dwarf wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:09 pm You are very analytical and putting people under a lot of scrutiny. Town.
Name 3 people Jay has put under a lot of scrutiny. Go.
Homework! For instance, exchanges about Epi, analysis of Colin, and yourself.

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