The Syndicate

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:35 pm I really need you guys to focus in here cause we’ve lose basically any player willing enough to be active

Mafia are obviously scared and we are on their tail

Iron Dwarf, I don’t care if you want RDW Lynched now, the fact stands mafia killed Epi through my protect so one of the people with misdirects is at fault here

So the question begs is it Cbob or Nutella?

@colonialbob who was your target
@nutella who was your target?

You know, I kinda think you're scum. You claim to have targeted Epi every night, even though there have been much more attractive scum kill targets every night except for last night. Seems like an easy way to generate fake night action claims to me. And now with this post it looks like you're trying to set up our next two lynches. Plus, let's not forget that scum have already had a misdirector in Quin. And the first two lines of this post just seem very fake to me.

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:55 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:35 pm I really need you guys to focus in here cause we’ve lose basically any player willing enough to be active

Mafia are obviously scared and we are on their tail

Iron Dwarf, I don’t care if you want RDW Lynched now, the fact stands mafia killed Epi through my protect so one of the people with misdirects is at fault here

So the question begs is it Cbob or Nutella?

@colonialbob who was your target
@nutella who was your target?
You know, I kinda think you're scum. You claim to have targeted Epi every night, even though there have been much more attractive scum kill targets every night except for last night. Seems like an easy way to generate fake night action claims to me. And now with this post it looks like you're trying to set up our next two lynches. Plus, let's not forget that scum have already had a misdirector in Quin. And the first two lines of this post just seem very fake to me.

And there's also the fact that you showed no interest in promoting to bishop instead of mage knight to have your towniness confirmed. Perhaps because you had already promoted to mage knight at the beginning of the game?

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:04 pm
gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:57 pm
gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:55 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:35 pm I really need you guys to focus in here cause we’ve lose basically any player willing enough to be active

Mafia are obviously scared and we are on their tail

Iron Dwarf, I don’t care if you want RDW Lynched now, the fact stands mafia killed Epi through my protect so one of the people with misdirects is at fault here

So the question begs is it Cbob or Nutella?

@colonialbob who was your target
@nutella who was your target?
You know, I kinda think you're scum. You claim to have targeted Epi every night, even though there have been much more attractive scum kill targets every night except for last night. Seems like an easy way to generate fake night action claims to me. And now with this post it looks like you're trying to set up our next two lynches. Plus, let's not forget that scum have already had a misdirector in Quin. And the first two lines of this post just seem very fake to me.
And there's also the fact that you showed no interest in promoting to bishop instead of mage knight to have your towniness confirmed. Perhaps because you had already promoted to mage knight at the beginning of the game?
my promotion choices are bishop and valkyrie knight for one, and i wanted to keep my protect

quin had a misdirecter built in to quin's role myrmidon

youre not making sense

I misremembered the name, whatevs. And yes I'm aware that Quin's misdirect was built into his role. My thoughts are that scum would try to go for a variety of roles, and not have two with misdirects.

Kenway wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:06 pm I am asking to be promoted as a Mage Knight, which supposedly has dayvig powers, so sig and colonialbob, your posts are numbered

What? How do you know this?

Has anyone successfully targeted cbob in this entire game? I seem to remember others claiming their target of him failed earlier but I could be wrong.

Does everyone still think Iron Dwarf is scum? I do.

[VOTE: Iron_Dwarf] aubergine

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Mar 10, 2018 9:53 am
gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 10, 2018 9:39 am Does everyone still think Iron Dwarf is scum? I do.

[VOTE: Iron_Dwarf] aubergine
Why?

Seems like textbook scum lying low to me. He shows up every once and a while, comments on a few posts as if he’s trying to meet some activity quota, and disappears again. He’s not really engaging, not instigating anyone, he’s just kinda there.

Yeah but I’m town. I really don’t care about looking through post histories at this point, I’m just voting for who I think the scum are.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:06 am @gwilikers6 I would like you to explain why somebody with your fancy voting power is waiting until the very end of phases to vote.

I dunno. I vote when it seems like there’s someone worth voting for. I don’t see why it would make more sense for me to vote early because of that power. I also lost that power for a different one when I upgraded, btw.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:54 pm
gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:46 pm Yeah but I’m town. I really don’t care about looking through post histories at this point, I’m just voting for who I think the scum are.
Not good enough. We need cases.

I said why I was voting for him like right before this. Everyone else seemed suspicious of Iron Dwarf a couple days ago. It seems like he already would have been lynched had it not been for our indecision on what to do about his second life. I’m interested in why pretty much everyone has backed off of him without giving any reasoning.

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:39 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:06 am @gwilikers6 I would like you to explain why somebody with your fancy voting power is waiting until the very end of phases to vote.
I dunno. I vote when it seems like there’s someone worth voting for. I don’t see why it would make more sense for me to vote early because of that power. I also lost that power for a different one when I upgraded, btw.

If you were referring to today, I had already voted in the thread but forgot to do it in the poll. This is the first game I’ve ever played with a voting poll.

The only thing Kenway has going in his favor is Dunya’s analysis that this is exactly his town meta, and he wouldn’t feign ignorance as scum, as a lot of the scum my posts he’s made thus far look like. I would have suspected him a long time ago otherwise, but Dunya seemed REALLY confident in this.

Yo who’s on? I don’t want to lynch rundontwalk. I’m open to changing from Iron Dwarf.

For who?

He and lap had a very equal amount of votes before lap's lynch, which I think is more likely indicative of town/scum than scum/scum. And I liked his spirit when he had his back against the wall.

5 mins right? I know there are only like 3 of us here but a semi-consensus would be nice. I'd go for I_D, Kenway, or maybe sig.

Oh wait maybe there's still one more hour? Hard to tell.

I think there's still another hour.

[mention]Kites[/mention], what are you thinking? Iron_Dwarf is certainly my preferred lynch. I would get on Kenway, somewhat reluctantly.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:20 pm
Kites wrote: ↑Sun Mar 11, 2018 2:58 pm everyone listed here is civ imo and wouldn’t lynch

rdw: his typical behavior p much. his vote/action points to promotion check out. if he is scum and received double life in the beginning i think he’d have tried harder to not become lynched since it would be a waste. also I dont think he wouldn’t have waited until night 7 to fakeclaim it

speedchuck: civ behavior really, can’t find anything rly bad despite trying hard

kenway: not that it would assure any of you, also i dont give a shit if you dont, but i simply think his posts are genuine. guys a civ who couldn’t keep up with the thread and post useful shit cos real life stuff. i might be wrong but I’d feel bad for voting him cos I don’t think he is scum and i hve played against scum kenway before. his vote/action points to promotion check out

kylemii: the problem is that his role doesn’t promote so he doesn’t have to lie about night actions if he’s scum. i liked his background search on my lost brother thingy. i have no reason to believe he is scum. also the ttownfirming epi thing, esp when he was suspected by many

gwilikers: it’s been proven he used his monk power = he didn’t promote in the beginning. next.

sprityo:
Spoiler: show

Kites wrote: ↑Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:38 pm
gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:55 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:35 pm I really need you guys to focus in here cause we’ve lose basically any player willing enough to be active

Mafia are obviously scared and we are on their tail

Iron Dwarf, I don’t care if you want RDW Lynched now, the fact stands mafia killed Epi through my protect so one of the people with misdirects is at fault here

So the question begs is it Cbob or Nutella?

@colonialbob who was your target
@nutella who was your target?
You know, I kinda think you're scum. You claim to have targeted Epi every night, even though there have been much more attractive scum kill targets every night except for last night. Seems like an easy way to generate fake night action claims to me. And now with this post it looks like you're trying to set up our next two lynches. Plus, let's not forget that scum have already had a misdirector in Quin. And the first two lines of this post just seem very fake to me.
i think the doctor loop was clever but of course there must be a way to break it somehow. i’d say sprityo is civ based mostly on gaining epi’s trust in their btsc, it would be very difficult to lie convincingly to him in a private chat
Kites:
Spoiler: show
I’m confirmed civ deal with it
Kites wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:48 am sprityo and anyone suspecting me

gwilly cleared me on night 3
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:55 am
gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:50 am This was my exact result btw: “**f*** *m ** - s*g”

I was drunk last night and working now so I haven’t put the slightest effort into decoding it. Have at it.
Soften 'em up. It corroborates I think Kites (?) who said they boosted sig's kill chance. I obviously didn't do that, so you were misdirected or something.
soften em up is an archer power so I hadn’t been promoted yet

a) promoted monk could def still have the PM power
b) the fact you think that PM result townclears you is laughable.

@gwilikers6 what have you been up to since you got Kites' PM?

a. Yeah, I can see why you would think that. It doesn't though. I'll reveal what bishop actually does if I start to be in danger of getting lynched, but really I don't see how it benefits town to know, and it would definitely benefit scum. Do you think it's suspicious that spirityo didn't promote to bishop so we could compare our role and verify that neither of us is lying?
b. I don't think Kites is confirmed town for the same reason I'm not confirmed town in your eyes. I'm more confident in him than Iron_Dwarf though, by far.

My night actions are as follows:

1. TonyStark
2. JJJ, got Kites instead I believe
3. LongCon, got JJJ instead I believe
4. spirityo, failed
5 on is a new power

We know from my role that Kites used the archer power "Soften 'em Up," and as far as we know, no promoted roles have the same power names as the unpromoted roles.

I've gotten 3 different people's PMs. Two confirmed town and Kites.

And not only did I get Sig's PM, I was misdirected into getting Sig's PM.

Well that's it.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:55 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:54 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:53 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:52 pm Ok I'm feeling better on kites/gwil so I'm leaning towards voting ID actually.
What does that have to do with Kenway?
Nothing, but i was hesitant to vote ID because I didn't like his fellow voters. I feel better about two of them so the train isn't as scary.
This is not what you said earlier

This makes one of you look bad for sure. Either speedy was right to mistrust bob for his change of opinion or speedy knew Dwarf would flip bad and was being opportunistic. I’m inclined to believe the former.

I’m quite convinced cbob is scum now. I feel like I’m all but confirmed at this point so how bout throwing a lil protection my way [mention]spirityo[/mention]?

sig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:52 am My upgrade just makes the chances of my kill increase, rather dull.

Speaking of which @gwilikers6 wanna let me fly? I think you're still above me.

Sprityo is scum reading me for no good reason, I could have been submitting kills and not no actions every night, there are still enough maybe scummy players I could've gotten away with it. He's just been tunneling on me since the early phases. We need to look at who was against ID, and who voted for me over him the first time around.

I’m not, but Kites is and I think the same applies to archers? I woulda said hell no if I had been though lol.

We’ve lynched scum 4 days in a row technically. I think we’re doing well for ourselves. I don’t trust a vig kill from someone I don’t have a strong town read on getting in the mix. Plus you said you have a higher success rate now anyway. I believe you already got a kill through when I didn’t let you through so try again if you really feel strongly about it.

Bad timing I know, but I’m probably going to be gone for the next two or three days. I’ll try to check in intermittently but can’t make any promises.

Wtf, it’s still night???

Kites wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:31 pm anyways I didn’t allow fliers to target sprityo so nutella and sig didn’t do that if i wasnt misdirected

I am a doctor. I protected spirityo. So barring shenanigans only a horseman could have performed the kill.

I believe Kenway also has a horse. But rdw is the more likely of the two I’d say.

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:48 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:36 am
rundontwalk wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:25 am [VOTE: gwilikers] aubergine
Reasoning please
Since like the first day Ive thought he could be wildcard scum. Just a hunch really but if I was scum I'd want to fake claim his role. And it's convenient his role didn't work when iron dwarf was on chopping block

Either you’re scum or you’re not paying attention cuz like none of this makes sense.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:44 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:41 pm we should consider that the mafia was able to kill epignosis through sprityo's protection, however sprityo was a known doctor and gwilikers didn't reveal his PHD until today, so he couldn't have been tampered with for that purpose, right?
I was thinking Gwil said something about doctorin yesterday

Nah I just said I had a new role. I wasn't going to reveal it until it was valuable to reveal. It's honestly a pretty shitty role and I wish I didn't upgrade, seeing as it'll only land if a footsoldier is responsible for the kill and I don't have the double vote power against scum thing any more.

It has another ability to replace the vote power of monk, but I'm choosing not to reveal it.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 2:51 am gwilikers i think is? confirmed by the fact that he seemed to have had the monk power when he snooped on sig's pm that one night. alternatively they could both be mafia??? this is relevant because apparently neither of the monk promotes (bishop nor sage) can replicate the monk's ability, based on sprityo's testimony and the role list...

Yo, I know no one actually suspects me these days except for rundontwalk (lol), but I feel like I've clarified this a few times and I'm going to do it again. I got two other PMs from confirmed, now dead, townies - Jay and TonyStark. If you don't want to clear me because you believe bishop could have the same powers as monk, fine. I think I'm better confirmed for placing the deciding vote on lapluie and starting the Iron Dwarf lynch when no one else was talking about it.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:54 am @Kylemii what do you think about the argument that if nutella was mafia they wouldn't habe killed rabbit8 n1 because mafia would've been safe from the Pegasus kill, and perhaps could've gotten it to fire against town?

(Not my argument originally, I don't remember who brought it up after rabbit died, but I find it reasonably compelling)

I spent some time thinking about this when rabbit was first killed, and I feel like it's just a distraction. Unless there were two mafia pegasus knights, the chance of actually getting all three of them to target a town player in a game with so much misdirection is slim to none, so I really don't think the mafia would have been counting on it if nutella is in fact scum.

Yeah there’s like no way that’s not gonna get fucked up lol.

Do we know that if a misdirect fails, the player gets a failed message back? I’m tempted to vote for Nutella based on her claim that she misdirected Kites.

Oh wow, I had no idea the day was ending. Sorry guys.

I was torn between nutella and rdw anyway so I guess my decision was made easier for me.

I really dislike 'the plan.' It's going to fail without a doubt imo.

[VOTE: rdw] aubergine

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:56 pm
gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:54 pm I really dislike 'the plan.' It's going to fail without a doubt imo.
But we have backup

It's like aiming two scum-seeking missiles at RDW. If both are redirected, nutella HAS to be scum, and the other scum also must have a redirect.

Spell out for me every action taken in this plan plz.

I don’t think I can. My role doesn’t specify but it’s not in the spirit of Fire Emblem.

Actually the role says light magic and stave wielding, but the doctor is my only targeting night action so maybe I can.

Good luck, town.

Good game, scum. Thanks for having me guys. Invite me to play another some time down the road.

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