The Syndicate

Meow. Meeeeeeoooow.

Made wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:00 am i should probably say something less fluffy. my iso is probably awful rn

You shouldn't. If you don't want to, no one is forcing you.
Shows a mindset of producing empty content.
[VOTE: Made] aubergine

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:50 pmnutella is wolfin'

Do you have an explanation for this? Why is this your only read and who did you steal it from?
If you had no reads at all it would be very towny but this sticks out as a sore thumb.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:29 am I find it triggering that cat does not have an avatar of a cat

Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:29 am
cat wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:59 am Meow. Meeeeeeoooow.
Hi. You're already part of my towncore with nutella, tutuu, Kylemii, Thunal, and a couple others! So is Falcon!

You're all imposters. i refuse.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:42 am
cat wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:36 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:29 am
cat wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:59 am Meow. Meeeeeeoooow.
Hi. You're already part of my towncore with nutella, tutuu, Kylemii, Thunal, and a couple others! So is Falcon!
You're all imposters. i refuse.
You're an imposter cat.

And you're in space.

Technically humans are also animals.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:41 pm
cat wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:25 am
Syn wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:50 pmnutella is wolfin'
Do you have an explanation for this? Why is this your only read and who did you steal it from?
If you had no reads at all it would be very towny but this sticks out as a sore thumb.
[VOTE: cat] aubergine

i have to reach but there are 0 scummy posts posted itt fmpov so im aiming at this

perhaps cat could be scum for pre-emptively explaining "If you had no reads at all it would be very towny but this sticks out as a sore thumb." to his scumread syn

perhaps, if one was town, its more likely that they wouldnt pre-emptively "reveal their hand" like this to a scumread of theirs

I have no reason to not do it. If someone says ''you're scum, go.'' i literally wouldn't care to defend. If someone says ''he's scum, jump on with me'' i wouldnt care either unless i had a read already.

Syn's response was bad btw.

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Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 3:51 pm I also think Tutuu is town more strongly now for baiting Michelle. Idt Michelle is necessarily scummy for forgetting Esooa was playing, i've seen town do that before (I saw a townie seriously put the hosts in his readslist once).

Playing the game makes you towny? Damn.
I think michelle not being scummy here is the general consensus,most people straight up ignored this.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 3:54 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 3:53 pm

Those last few posts from Nutella super sus.
i want to townread this post too wtf i should stop. i dont think im doing this right. surely at least 1 wolf has posted by now

Towny. And yes those posts were sus. Nutella both acknowledges what's going on bringing attention to but kind of brushes it under the rug at the same time.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:00 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:59 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:58 pm [VOTE: Nanook] aubergine btw
You just said Tutuu was scum!
and?

Towny. Scumreading then going back to townread on Hyena makes it even better.
I'll steal the metaread on Hyena as well.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:18 pm [VOTE: michelle] aubergine

I looked at the post counts and hers was the highest surprising number. She’s got 70 posts but I feel like I’ve barely noticed her.

And you have almost 150.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:19 am @cat what is your point in making note of my post count?

I personally don't remember pretty much anything you've done. And you have a lot of posts.

So i thought it would be funny to point it out since you are doing the same thing.

112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:55 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:37 am
112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:35 am I don't think Syn would keep pushing Nute if he was wolfing, so there's that
I don't understand the logic, please elaborate
nute's obvtown

Why? Can you explain their meta? I'd say nutella is uncomfortable in the thread.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:26 am
cat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:26 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:19 am @cat what is your point in making note of my post count?
I personally don't remember pretty much anything you've done. And you have a lot of posts.
So i thought it would be funny to point it out since you are doing the same thing.
112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:55 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:37 am
112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:35 am I don't think Syn would keep pushing Nute if he was wolfing, so there's that
I don't understand the logic, please elaborate
nute's obvtown
Why? Can you explain their meta? I'd say nutella is uncomfortable in the thread.
How much have you read?

Most of it, but i've skimmed when it got too memey.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:34 am
cat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:28 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:26 am
cat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:26 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:19 am @cat what is your point in making note of my post count?
I personally don't remember pretty much anything you've done. And you have a lot of posts.
So i thought it would be funny to point it out since you are doing the same thing.
112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:55 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:37 am
112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:35 am I don't think Syn would keep pushing Nute if he was wolfing, so there's that
I don't understand the logic, please elaborate
nute's obvtown
Why? Can you explain their meta? I'd say nutella is uncomfortable in the thread.
How much have you read?
Most of it, but i've skimmed when it got too memey.
I feel as though I have been heavily involved in the progression of this game.

What reads do you have to share with us?

The ones i have.

Is it just me or are ISos broken? It starts at page four and then the buttons dont move. I go to page 1 and if i want to press page 4 it either doesn't do anything or puts me on page 2.
Maybe it will fix itself later.

cat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:19 am Is it just me or are ISos broken? It starts at page four and then the buttons dont move. I go to page 1 and if i want to press page 4 it either doesn't do anything or puts me on page 2.
Maybe it will fix itself later.

Talking about tutuu's ISO btw.

It fixed itself now. I swear to fuck page 4 was page 1 and page 5 didn't exist. I'll read tutuu later im demotivated now.

Nice to see Made wagon and me not reading anyone on it as wolf, staying here until i finish reading.
Sloonei i don't understand your question at all. Can you answer it first?

cat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:22 am Nice to see Made wagon and me not reading anyone on it as wolf, staying here until i finish reading.
Sloonei i don't understand your question at all. Can you answer it first?

@Sloonei

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:25 am
cat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:22 am Nice to see Made wagon and me not reading anyone on it as wolf, staying here until i finish reading.
Sloonei i don't understand your question at all. Can you answer it first?
I don't TR tutuu FTR
And a wagon is not always good if it's made by townies, I am always voting a player not the wagon composition on him.
Townies are uninformed, isn't it?

I know, it just makes me feel safer. If i scumread a player and a bunch of other scumreads jumped on it i would feel like i'm wrong somewhere and hop off.

Made wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:26 am
cat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:22 am Nice to see Made wagon and me not reading anyone on it as wolf, staying here until i finish reading.
Sloonei i don't understand your question at all. Can you answer it first?
Have we played together before? If not, hiya! Nice to meet you

Not that i remember. Heya, nice to meet you too.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:32 am
cat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:23 am
cat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:22 am Nice to see Made wagon and me not reading anyone on it as wolf, staying here until i finish reading.
Sloonei i don't understand your question at all. Can you answer it first?
@Sloonei
I'm just asking what kind of mafia player you are. I believe this is our first time playing together (I hosted you in Simpsons, but did not follow that game super closely), so I'm just looking to understand what you're trying to do in this game right now, what sort of things you're looking for, etc.

OK that makes more sense, i thought you were telling me to do something.
I'm trying to catch up but i keep getting distracted by everything. I gave up on reading tutuu because i'm too lazy. When i read i skip memes and i look for people's thought process and trying to figure out how are they approaching the game. Hoping to vote out atleast 1 mafia this game.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:38 am @cat who were you in Simpsons?

I was Lisa Simpson. I also played in 8 ball mafia and The Christmas game.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:57 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:47 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:46 pm Michelle town.

One read down.
Due to that spoiler thing a few posts up?
Just generally saying things wolf Michelle doesn’t say imo. Shiny in a Michelle way. Like bronze.

I'll steal it.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:45 pm Yep, Falcon is too stubborn to be scum. Take that with a grain of salt.

Good news, i feel i collected some town reads

Refusing to play the game is a common strat here. He gave reads anyway so it's not like he's that stubborn. GTH mafia. No balls.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:36 pm My issue with Nutella here is that I've had basically no content as is normal for me, and yet somehow she's giving a pass to other posters with similar reps (Nanook, Wilgy, et al) and apparently can't formulate any better reads on people with far more content. I am her *only* wolf read, and all I've done is shitpost as usual. My one bit of content, at a stretch, is a mild and brief back and forth with falcon where I felt he was being hedgey and forcing a push on me (and I stand by that, though I don't know it's AI for him) and that's apaprently enough to have her decide I am not only a wolf but her *only* wolf so far.

It's an opportunistic nudge and she's not disguising it well enough.

Fun post. I like it.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:07 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:04 pm I've largely vibed with both sloonei and tutuu who are strong town leader types and somehow the rest of the thread is against me, it's weird

Towncore gotta take charge

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MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:18 pm Every time I see Made post I just been like look at dat wolf. There is very little by way of solving. He hasn't had any spicy pushes that I saw. He keeps doing wolfy popins where he just comments half the time on NAI concerns then skeets off back to wolf chat.

Sounds more like low-effort than scum to me.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:29 pm Yeah I'm not entirely discounting the possibility alison is scum playing a tricksy tactic, but I think it's at least equally and probably a good bit more plausible that she's really 3p. Like occam's razor is she really has that role, rather than cleverly coming up with it as a gambit lol

I'm gonna throw a curveball and say Alison is town. Thoughts?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 7:40 pm Why would town fake their position? And subsequently, forget?

This thought seems unrealistic. I hope i'm being played and this is a fake thought for sarcasm.

Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 7:48 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 7:45 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 7:30 pm
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 7:24 pm We have almost 24 hours to go and I have no intention about getting more active...but based on my limited participation I am not feeling it on Hyena and would oppose that chop. Made is...meh. If things are the same as they are now with an hour to EoD I would start pushing Nutella probably, just to see if the Made push is serious, then go with whichever seemed bedt choice to push past Hyena.
After the lack of response from Made to my post + the vote Made made on me, I wanna pursue him. I haven't really gone looking for anyone else to pursue yet though. Starting to do that right now with people I haven't really looked at yet, like MR.
So you dismiss mine, Syn, and Made's pushes on you as OMGUS then you do this? I get the feeling you care more about surviving than solving the game. Like, Made is a really convenient push for you at this point.
Oh, I'm not doing any solving right now, lol. Guilty as charged. I'm just trying to get people to spill their guts out D1 and do stuff/react to stuff so that I have more interactions to read later on.

Hyena here and the recent posts is trying to be as transparent as possible to look towny, either too obvious of a wolf or a clumsy townie, something similar to what Michelle did when she forgot who was in the game. It's not wolfy, but they get no townpoints for it either.

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tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:43 pm @dyachei

Alison - claimed 3p, also unkillable and immune to yeeting after day 1 since she can redirect all night actions and all votes towards the person she made a contract with. so putting her aside

tutuu
Michelle - her reactions to getting pushed and a bunch of other stuff feel pretty towny
nutella - i dont care about her post count and i heavily dislike the fact that she's using the "im so bad as wolf i can barely post or do anything, my scum game is milesssss behind my towngame" thing as a defense, i think that if your scum game is lagging behind your towngame then you should be putting alot of effort to equalize the difference, instead of weaponizing the difference and using it to your advantage, thats lowkey unsportsmanlike imo, even if shes only stating the truth. its kind of like being proud that you never bus as scum and wanting to get towncleared upon being on a wolf wagon (like TSM mikey does) which unfairly skews the scale to favor your town winrate and lowers your scum winrate, or like when you only do heavy AtE as town and dont do it as wolf and u get free townreads and u dont realize that its not rly fair, sort of like a trust tell. even tho ur job as town is to be truthful in my opinion some truths are best not spoken for the sake of a sportsmanlike competitive game @nutella . im sorry i just - this is my opinion, i dont want to yell at you or scold you and i love you very much nutella and i think you know it, i just cant not share my opinion on how our mafia gameplay on the syndicate can be improved, thats all!

ANYWAY, for my actual read on her that i think is valid and sportsmanlike (as in, its fakable if she was wolf) - i like her sassy and erratic responses to multiple posts, they are too much for me to pinpoint all but there are there in both of our ISOs. i think that shes heavily invested in the game and she had some textbook towny posts - one of them was recent, somebody was townreading her and she pointed out how scummy that person is for townreading her, which is a towntell when you're in nutella's situation (receiving scumreads from multiple places). the biggest part is her pushes really, they just make sense
MacDougall - i think from the two scum games ive seen from him last year he was really trolly and erratic, i think as town he gets more serious and his reads get more deep. i think if he was mafia or 3p here he played in a way that would get him night killed due to being perceived as a threat from one of the scum teams, which is not good for him if he's scum. optimal scum play in this game is to be towny but not that towny imo. so i think he's town
Sloonei - exact same read as mac, except without the trolly and erratic part. i can add that ive seen him be scum twice, i have caught him both times (its not only nutella who rekt sloonei ) and ive seen him be town once in my game and the contrast is pretty stark imo. he's just clearly town here imo
Syn - echoing the already stated reads on him, nobody expects much from him so if he is mafia here he can post three times less and nobody would push him. the fact that he's putting way more effort than the average effort put out by players in this threat makes him town in my eyes

112 - i find all of her posts extremely logical and i can follow them. any reasons to doubt her is that she isnt playing in a way that would make her nightkilled by scum early on imo, so she isnt showing the "multiball towntell" in my eyes, and additionallyshe has fooled me before as mafia
Timsup2nothin - i dont wanna repeat it, i laid it out already in my iso. its about the way he interacted with sloonei about the perceived tmi slip about multiball
Thunal33 - pretty similar to 112, i nod my head as i read her posts, they make sense and are good, but she is not getting nightkilled and could be a solving mafia
DrWilgy - unfortunately little explanation for this. this is simply my gut. i think he's being genuine. i liked the "maybe yall can listen to me for once" post
Marmot - again cant explain much. gut. ive played a bunch of games with marmot. perhaps im starting to get familiar. he feels more similar to bike mafia compared to the times i saw him scum. maybe, i think.

MartinGG99 - i liked his posts where he was saying "u guys can kill me at any time". but otherwise low post count, could be scum
falcon45ca - i liked some of his assertive tone, but otherwise low post count, hard to read, could be scum, the assertive tone thingy could be his personality
cat - i liked his sass, i disliked one logical post of his (because it was logical), low post count
JackofHearts2005 - i have little to no experience with jack; low post count
dyachei - recently joined, dont have much to read them off of. previous owner was 0 poster
Dyslexicon - low post count, i have seen him be like this as town a lot
TurnipHead - 0 poster
Long Con - surprised he has 80, i dont remember most of his posts, shows how spammy this game is. just checked post coutns nutella has 330 posts what the actual fuck. but yeah. long con notoriously hard to read / impossible
TonyStarkPrime - low post count, gut says he's scum but last game i wrongly tunneled him

Master Radishes - sheeping nutella, i liked her idea that if MR is logical and cooperative that could mean he's mafia
Made - i echo someone's read that made jumping around like a happy little fairy between posts could mean he's mafia. i dont remember his pushes, i just remember him being chatty and friendly
Kylemii - my gut pinged me super hard, cant explain
JustPlayingitcool - is playing the same way he played in radiohead. claims that this is his town meta, thats possible, but then how does one read him?
Hyena - i think he started kinda flailing, dont wanna repeat the things ive already stated about why i sr him, there are there in my iso
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - doesnt seem that relaxed or easygoing, according to mac that's nook's towntell and nook isn't expressing it here fmpov, also nook is super engaged as town at least often times, and is often in the top posters and i think as town is more engaged and has more reads than this

Very handy, thank you.

Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:52 pm So, it's kinda early in the day considering we still have about 48 hours left in the day, but I feel like this is a good time to say this:

I am a PR who can probably easily confirm myself. :P I'll go into more details if you guys want, but what I'm saying is that I'm probably not a good place to go as far as a d1 yeet (or any day yeet) goes.

Boooo.
How does your claim confirm you anyway? You talk to dead people. No one can prove or disprove it.

Made wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:02 pm yo, how does town normally win multiball set ups?

like when town wins is it normaly just mafia dogging it out and town surviving or Towncore flanking both sides? what's the trick here? Ofc town always needs to baddie hunt or w/e but so do the wolves. What does town need to do that scum doesn't?

Town wins by doing nothing.

Made wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:13 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:11 pm
Made wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:58 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:57 pm
Made wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:56 pm is omgus typically a town thing or a mafia thing? if it's a mafia thing, it's something that wouldn't be effected too much by the whole 2 teams dynamics, which makes it a really reliable way to scum hunt compared to finding people scum based on their reads. Shitty reads probably isn't the way to find scum until we think we've hit a pair
nai
lame
Why did you intentionally play scummy?
Trying to increase my town range

This is so dumb i kinda believe it.
[VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

Wait ignore it i can't read. Sorry i got it.

Syn is still not being townie either.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:04 am
Got words to go with that Nut vote?

I'm sheeping the radishes post and my own dislike of nutella's earlygame.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:10 am
cat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:07 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:04 am
Got words to go with that Nut vote?
I'm sheeping the radishes post and my own dislike of nutella's earlygame.
I find the timing of it opportunistic. And the fact that you dropped it off topic in a small wallpost containing other things is >rand mafia.

How does it make you feel about Nutella?

Made wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 3:30 pm Y’all do know there’s gonna be a day 2 right?

Y’all’s stamina is crazy

I'm going fucking mental

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:57 am
cat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:06 am Syn is still not being townie either.
Talk to me about this. I thought syn was pretty townie so far

Getting similar vibes to made where it's ''i'm gonna shitpost but also make like 1 read so no one complains''. It gets better later on but early game it's really jarring. Hopping in on nutella when it's hot then brushing it off as a meme when i question about it. Then it's tutuu's readlist where she states that Syn is known to be a low effort player anyway so why is it that Syn isn't completely meming and actually trying to look townie.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:47 pm I think that Kyle is Mafia; the way he's constantly talking about having to catch up is a way I've seen Mafia do, can't really argument it; it's just how I've seen it; I think there are other people who groan at having to catch up but they aren't following it so faithfully / they meme from time to time / they still give reads from time to time.

I think the way Kyle is approaching this is wolfy and he's constantly reminding us that he's trying to read every post (which I believe him that he is) but that's busywork IMO and he's mafia.

LOL i'm literally doing the same thing.

dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:45 pm also i now understand the hyena wolf reads...did they really vote for alison?

There's nothing wrong with voting Alison.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:56 pm Martin has 5 on topic posts and 1 of them is hecking sus

That's a 20% sus level which for most townspeople is usually lethal.

Sample size too small to be meaningful though and also he's fallen behind after replacing in by accident or something like that so that's relatable.

Reading ISO's after saying you would yolo the game. No balls.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:00 pm
cat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:11 am OK that makes more sense, i thought you were telling me to do something.
I'm trying to catch up but i keep getting distracted by everything. I gave up on reading tutuu because i'm too lazy. When i read i skip memes and i look for people's thought process and trying to figure out how are they approaching the game. Hoping to vote out atleast 1 mafia this game.
Why do you single tutuu out in particular? What makes her so difficult to read?

She made a bigass readlist that i disagreed with for the most part so i wanted to see the reasoning.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:26 pm
112 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:35 am nanook's not happening right now

[VOTE: dizzy] aubergine
Here it is. So.

1. Nanook isn't happening, but I am? How? Cause I'm pretty sure I'm not.
2. You don't know me. SNAPSNAPSNAP
3. What was this "scummy" you saw in my posts?
4. You don't know me. SNAP

Love it.

Introduction

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My slip and switching from Made

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MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:10 pm
cat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:22 am Nice to see Made wagon and me not reading anyone on it as wolf, staying here until i finish reading.
Cat has given the game away immediately. Indeed by saying this they reveal their true intent, which is to indeed not stay there.

This is probably the main clincher of the case. I assume the idea is ''Made said something in mafia chat, cat went in and unvoted, and slipped the fact that he was going to do it."
I have no defense for this, it's just bad wording on my part. Good catch.
Although why would a wolf be so focused on unvoting from a wagon that was tied with two others almost two days before EoD is a different case.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:10 pm
cat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:35 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:18 pm Every time I see Made post I just been like look at dat wolf. There is very little by way of solving. He hasn't had any spicy pushes that I saw. He keeps doing wolfy popins where he just comments half the time on NAI concerns then skeets off back to wolf chat.
Sounds more like low-effort than scum to me.
Pause the tape right here. Do you see that? You see the emoji? Yeah. You see the emoji.

Important to note, that Made had a fair wagon comp at this point.

Yeah, and i pointed it out. If you can explain this one i'd appreciate it, not sure what your point is here.@MacDougall

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:10 pm
cat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:02 am
Made wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:13 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:11 pm
Why did you intentionally play scummy?
Trying to increase my town range
This is so dumb i kinda believe it.
[VOTE: Nutella] aubergine
Hmmm were it not for the groundswell of momentum towards this outcome I would be inclined to believe it and see it as towny indeed! Wily. Sadly, not wily enough. Now, let's reverse tac, and see how they arrived at this point where lines indeed crossed over and Made became Nutella.

My switch onto Nutella

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MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:10 pm
cat wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:25 am
Syn wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:50 pmnutella is wolfin'
Do you have an explanation for this? Why is this your only read and who did you steal it from?
If you had no reads at all it would be very towny but this sticks out as a sore thumb.
Unlike Made, Cat in fact began with somewhat of a defense of Nutella. Similar levels of vitriol towards Syn as was shown initially towards Made.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:10 pm
cat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:16 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 3:54 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 3:53 pm

Those last few posts from Nutella super sus.
i want to townread this post too wtf i should stop. i dont think im doing this right. surely at least 1 wolf has posted by now
Towny. And yes those posts were sus. Nutella both acknowledges what's going on bringing attention to but kind of brushes it under the rug at the same time.
Trimmed from the very same wall in which he quoted my post to start inverting his Made read we have this borrowing of Jack's nutella argument.

You're off by a day. I'll assume this was on purpose. If it was on the same day i'd say your argument would make even less sense though. I would have a reason to townread my scumread and a reason to scumread another on the same day, which would ultimately make my vote switch. In this scenario i saw people's reads on Made weren't as strong as i expected and Made started popping off so i jumped on the new best thing which was another scumread of mine and to see what happens. You could say i should have started a wagon on Syn but i'm way too lazy for that, so i just said they are wolfy and left.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:10 pm
cat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:35 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:36 pm My issue with Nutella here is that I've had basically no content as is normal for me, and yet somehow she's giving a pass to other posters with similar reps (Nanook, Wilgy, et al) and apparently can't formulate any better reads on people with far more content. I am her *only* wolf read, and all I've done is shitpost as usual. My one bit of content, at a stretch, is a mild and brief back and forth with falcon where I felt he was being hedgey and forcing a push on me (and I stand by that, though I don't know it's AI for him) and that's apaprently enough to have her decide I am not only a wolf but her *only* wolf so far.

It's an opportunistic nudge and she's not disguising it well enough.
Fun post. I like it.
So fun that he cites it later as his reason for sheeping. Perhaps more fun because it's more content for him to justify his ultimate goal of moving his vote off of his teammate Made and onto Nutella (which he was trying to make look random the entire time).

Or it's another good reason to jump on the person who's being scummier.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:10 pm
cat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:26 am
112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:55 am nute's obvtown
Why? Can you explain their meta? I'd say nutella is uncomfortable in the thread.
Pushes back when someone calls her Obvtown, asks for elaboration on it. But...

He arrived there anyway.

112 didn't respond. I took the readlist from tutuu since i saw nutella and syn is a high town so i was gonna analyze it but i got lazy and went ''ah it will be fine i'll just do it later and see if i agree then''.

What this case basically falls down to is if i actually slipped my intentions from the start or was it bad wording. If you assume i'm just saying ''i'm catching up, but i like Made wagon'' then the case falls apart pretty instantly, since the other reasoning is pretty much NAI. if you assume i actually slipped and this was a heavily preplanned move in an unecesarry scenario, then fair enough, can't do much about it other than to leave my final reads.

About MacDougall, if Made or Nutella is mafia,and especially if both, he is a little more likely, since his action of pushing Made will fall short if he chops me and it also draws attention away from Nutella for the time being. But his reads have been very agressive and changing so it's not a strong reasoning.

I'm around for a little bit, but i'm on mobile so i can't do much. I felt pretty sluggish today, but after a long nap and some tea i'm a little better.

I get why i'm a wagon, why is thunal the counterwagon?
From what i remember there wasn't anything too bad about thunal and i even liked some of the points they made. Anyone can link a case?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 2:36 pm Do you have any thoughts on any of the people who are voting for you?

Here to wait for my death. Not to solve me, atleast judging from the last few pages. You will wait for D2 and then blame it on inactivity or something. A bunch of people prodding at others to avoid backlash later probably. It took one post to look at Thunal/dyachei interaction that dyachei is completely ignoring Thunal right now to push them . Nutella is being helpful and actually doing stuff. I'm not sure why you are trying to counterwagon right now when i'm the top wagon.

Shouldn't vote me to begin with if you think it's too easy. You can see i'm a lowposter, i've responded to the case and if you don't like my response you vote me. All there is to it. Keep an eye on 112 and whoever else is bringing that up.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:04 pm
cat wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 2:55 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 2:36 pm Do you have any thoughts on any of the people who are voting for you?
Here to wait for my death. Not to solve me, atleast judging from the last few pages. You will wait for D2 and then blame it on inactivity or something. A bunch of people prodding at others to avoid backlash later probably. It took one post to look at Thunal/dyachei interaction that dyachei is completely ignoring Thunal right now to push them . Nutella is being helpful and actually doing stuff. I'm not sure why you are trying to counterwagon right now when i'm the top wagon.
Please name names.
Also is that an accusation directed against dya? Why? I do not know what you are referring to.

Pretty much everyone around is guilty. The people who openly don't give a shit are the towniest right now. Kylemii and Syn from what i can tell.
Inbetween me arriving and making my second post. I don't know the full context, but Thunal writes a defense, and Dyachei skips half of it and focuses on the emotional content. I don't know if Thunal is actually suspicious but it makes thunal look towny from an outsider's perspective.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:22 pm
cat wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:18 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:04 pm
cat wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 2:55 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 2:36 pm Do you have any thoughts on any of the people who are voting for you?
Here to wait for my death. Not to solve me, atleast judging from the last few pages. You will wait for D2 and then blame it on inactivity or something. A bunch of people prodding at others to avoid backlash later probably. It took one post to look at Thunal/dyachei interaction that dyachei is completely ignoring Thunal right now to push them . Nutella is being helpful and actually doing stuff. I'm not sure why you are trying to counterwagon right now when i'm the top wagon.
Please name names.
Also is that an accusation directed against dya? Why? I do not know what you are referring to.
Pretty much everyone around is guilty. The people who openly don't give a shit are the towniest right now. Kylemii and Syn from what i can tell.
Inbetween me arriving and making my second post. I don't know the full context, but Thunal writes a defense, and Dyachei skips half of it and focuses on the emotional content. I don't know if Thunal is actually suspicious but it makes thunal look towny from an outsider's perspective.
Your first response seemed to indicate you are suspicious of the people voting for you. This post states directly that "pretty much everyone" on you is suspicious.
The only person currently on your bandwagon who you've named is Thunal. You called her a town read.

Which part says "the people on me"?

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:22 pm Cat, have you paid attention to people voting you? Who do you think could be the scum jumping on your train?

(If you're town and you end up going over, it'd be good to have your perspective noted.)

No i haven't, i've made walls consistantly and the post i left off at was Dyslexicon snapping back at someone. (I forgot who

) From what i can tell the people voting me didn't like my response to MacDougall so i can't say anyone is wolfy. I don't get pinged when i'm voted so i don't know the context.
On the wagon i have a slight scumread on Nutella, and townread on tutuu. Everyone else is either a mixed bag or i have pretty much no opinion on. Like i said the most important people are the people off wagon or dancing around suspiciously and that is where town usually ignores since they are too focused on "wow, voting townie, there must be scum there".

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:34 pm
cat wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:32 pm On the wagon i have a slight scumread on Nutella, and townread on tutuu.
Earlier you said you'd given up on reading tutuu. What changed?

They've been pretty towny. I just needed reasons for reads in the ISo. Thats why i made a scene.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:39 pm
cat wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:18 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:04 pm
cat wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 2:55 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 2:36 pm Do you have any thoughts on any of the people who are voting for you?
Here to wait for my death. Not to solve me, atleast judging from the last few pages. You will wait for D2 and then blame it on inactivity or something. A bunch of people prodding at others to avoid backlash later probably. It took one post to look at Thunal/dyachei interaction that dyachei is completely ignoring Thunal right now to push them . Nutella is being helpful and actually doing stuff. I'm not sure why you are trying to counterwagon right now when i'm the top wagon.
Please name names.
Also is that an accusation directed against dya? Why? I do not know what you are referring to.
Pretty much everyone around is guilty. The people who openly don't give a shit are the towniest right now. Kylemii and Syn from what i can tell.
Inbetween me arriving and making my second post. I don't know the full context, but Thunal writes a defense, and Dyachei skips half of it and focuses on the emotional content. I don't know if Thunal is actually suspicious but it makes thunal look towny from an outsider's perspective.
Do you have reads on Falcon and Hyena?

I remember vaguely disliking some of Falcon's posts and most of the things Hyena has done seem pretty NAI at suface level for me. I haven't read the case yet.

Solving isn't even allignment indicative to begin with. It just makes you harder to get chopped because you do stuff.

[VOTE: Falcon45ca] aubergine
See you later, or after the game.

GG, i'm suprised town lost considering how hard they steamrolled mafia.

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