The Syndicate

Hooray game.

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thellama73 wrote:I'm going to go ahead and warn people that I will probably be uncharacteristically quiet this game. I'm in two mafia games while trying to write a novel and restore freedom to America. So I've got a lot on my plate.

I feel free if you know what I mean.

Long Con wrote:I am having a lot of trouble reading the dark blue host colour on the dark grey background.

The game definitely seems geared toward turning the general Civvie population into a bunch of baddie groups. Selfish greed over common good. I would advocate, as keys said, that we all just don't send in search PMs, and win together as Civvies, but for two reasons: a) that would go against boo's intentions for the game, and carve out a good deal of fun for us all, and b) there ain't no way that most people would go along with such a plan anyway.

If we did implement such a plan, then we would want to start lynching the winner of the last dead property auction on the following day, as they would obviously not be going along with the plan. That sounds lame too.

So, what do we lynch people for? Instead of lynching players for suspicion of being a Railroad or a Utility, will we lynch a player we suspect is becoming too powerful and rich?

This is an excellent strategy. I agree that not many people would go along with the idea of NOT sending search actions in. Sure it's ideal, but who's gonna prove that you did or didn't search and find a partner?

I agree with the last point too. We must pay as much attention as possible to who gains what properties. In monopoly, once you start gaining power, it's hard to stop that person. In this version, I guess you just have lynch 'em.

juliets wrote:I shouldnt say only way because people could want to trade or put a property up for sale, except their original property, and I think thats allowed too.

Luckily, you do not pay rent unless there is a hotel. So if there are houses or nothing, you are in the clear.

Epignosis wrote:
boo wrote:Vote changing should be enabled, and works for me, but isn't working for Epi (apparently it's been an issue in another game as well). Just a heads up.
MP fixed it in my game, so we'll have to see what he can do here.

He probably won't fix it unless he get's his luxury tax back.

I voted sockface because no reason.

thellama73 wrote:Look, building hotels is the only way we can get money (barring a few chance cards and an occasional pass go.) The Mafia have ample ability to make money and use it to buy property and other goodies, while at the same time depleting our money. If we run out of money, we die. This strategy hands victory to the railroads and utilities. Please think about it for two seconds before posting a reactionary NO U response. You, MM, Long Con, and Keys are working on behalf of the baddies with this sort of talk.

llama, if you win an auction and gain a property card, we can't just assume your role is of the same colour. There's a chance you are trying to prevent another particular player from getting the property, sure. There's also a chance you're a baddie and are collecting sets yourself. I'm using your name as an example.

Long Con's ideas sound ideal, but I'm not committing to a strategy. I'm realizing that this game is going to require a lot of reaction decisions, and any preconceived strategies could get shot to ribbons in a second.

Epignosis wrote:
juliets wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
juliets wrote:Epi you told me to shush last time I asked this but I'm still asking again. Do you think Elo is bad?
I wanted to determine if $he wa$ paying attention. $he i$.
Now I see why you told me to shush, and I can see why after Dr. Who you'd want to know if she was paying attention. Lol. Also I see you've gone back to the annoying $.
Never $topped!

Never have I heard a truer claim.

Will there come a time when it will come to a halt?

Turnip Head wrote:I'm not playing mafia until the ca$h signs are gone.

I am going to utilize them every time I make a reply.

Why, I've even replaced them in that line above.

Linki: May your epitaph be filled with the ninteenth letter.

Turnip Head wrote:I bet 50 Monopoly $'s that Epi makes it further in this challenge than MM does.

Rob may practice the art of eloquent word formation in our native tongue, and make a living through it...

But I play to win.

Quick rule I am making regarding the challenge. No picture may be put up that would contain the forbidden letter. Any quote from another player (in an unaltered condition) that doth contain that letter will be permitted.

Game on!

Linki: I checked the Monopoly rulebook. Nothing in there that would claim differently.

Linki 2: It will be a game to remember (or maybe not).

Epignosis wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:I bet 50 Monopoly $'s that Epi makes it further in this challenge than MM does.
Rob may practice the art of eloquent word formation in our native tongue, and make a living through it...

But I play to win.

Depending on the betting, I could be willing to throw thi

I don't know what thi

thellama73 wrote:Parker ought to be happy. I won't be able to utter my favorite battle cry.

When have you ever been in a battle?

Turnip Head wrote:I feel like pictures with an s are cool, as long as it doesn't have any dollar signs and pics are used tastefully.

Cutting a word off in the middle however is less swag.

Ok, a picture with the letter may be allowed, but only if it would not be intended to relay information that would require it.

I will retire to my bedchamber now.

Y'all keep an eye on llama if he might botch it. :P

In addition, I implore Rob and llama to permit the general utilization of that letter, for each party involved, in the Zelda game, without penalty.

Long Con wrote:How much do you wanna bet that the $ posse will check each other tonight?

♫ Don't go lynching my partner ♫

zeek wrote:Has MP checked in yet? I know he's very busy at the moment, just realised I haven't seen him post in a while.

In regard it searching for your set: I think its up to each person to decide now. There have been a lot of good points on either side and I suppose its down to interpretation now. Which path will give each individual the greatest chance to win? Thats the basic crux of capitalism after all :P

What do you think about anyone that would claim to not look for a partner at night? I don't think a baddie would be that apparent, but I am not inclined to believe that player.

FZ. wrote:Epig,

Why did you bid so much? Where were you expecting to get more money from for the other stuff?

I have a theory.

The more money he will bet on a power, the more likely another player will check him tonight in the hope that they can partner up with the equal color, being that it would be convenient to have that power on your team. Meaning that the money might return back to him in the future. It might be a gamble, but that'll be the name of the game.

Well, maybe I really can't change my vote...

$80 for the extra die

I will vote Long Con. I do not plan to win the competition with Epi on Day 1.

Linki: I am up money from landing on chance and advancing to Go. Booya.

Why don't we bold any bid we make to make it clear?

$100 on the extra die if the bid from TH earlier will count (for 60 + 25, being unbolded and not an exact amount).

Linki: Why don't you like the the little game Mongoose? You are ruining the fun where other people are even bidding on Epi, llama, and me.

Turnip Head wrote:110 dice roll

I walk away for a moment and y'all nab my bid.

Linki oh, jackpot!!!

Bid $1 on the Made property

Long Con wrote:Nice result! I bid $1!!

Bold your bid everyone, let it be prominent.

$223

Black Rock wrote:
Made wrote:I fucking hate being bad..no salt here y'all, well played.
pce out
Sorry you had to go, thank you for making the day one lynch go so beautifully.

Have any of you bidders thought this through?

Definitely. Many a player will have $200 added to their bid due to the lynching of Made, and will certainly want to join the bidding.

My intention will be to jack up the price for them, particularly if a baddie will want to place a bid. We may not know who will ultimately receive the deed, but we can be certain they will pay a large amount for it.

Long Con wrote:Is it first come, first served? Do you accept duplicate ideas?

For example, if I send in "Magical Pancake Power" and then Epig sends it in a minute later, am I awesome and Epig is outta luck?

I would like to know what the magical pancake power can do.

zeek wrote:Cya Made Why is anyone bidding on his card? It's hardly useful, is it?

zeek

My point in bidding

FZ. wrote:Nice job lynching Made.

Here's a thought. There are 3 players who would love to get their hands on the card. What if we pick someone who is the most trusted in the game (of course we vote on that), which granted is hard to pick at the moment, but still, and we let them make the bid. It's a risk, because we could end up picking a baddie, but on the other hand, all other players can't hide behind "I'm trying to prevent the baddies from getting it" excuse, and if one of the players falls on it later on, and the money is doubled, we know that person was bad in the first place.

What if they don't want to make the bid? Do you want to force a player to take that RR, even for large amount of money?

$275

S~V~S wrote:I didn't think of that

Me neither...

You can have the high bid back.

Actually, you voted Made. If I bid anything under $450, it wouldn't help me anyway.

juliets wrote:Metalmarsh while you're here would you answer my question from yesterday? Why did you vote long Con?

For a potential extra $200 added to my bid if he would have been lynched. Nothing more. If I had come back on before the lynch, I would have changed to Made, but at the time, Epi had the lead over any other player 3-1.

And I did not want to lynch Epi today, and LC had voted him.

S~V~S wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
juliets wrote:Metalmarsh while you're here would you answer my question from yesterday? Why did you vote long Con?
For a potential extra $200 added to my bid if he would have been lynched. Nothing more. If I had come back on before the lynch, I would have changed to Made, but at the time, Epi had the lead over any other player 3-1.

And I did not want to lynch Epi today, and LC had voted him.
So you think a vote for Epi makes someone a baddie?

No, but LC happened to have a vote already.

I too want a $200 handicap added to my bid, and I know I'm not the only one.

Epignosis wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Why don't we bold any bid we make to make it clear?

$100 on the extra die if the bid from TH earlier will count (for 60 + 25, being unbolded and not an exact amount).

Linki: Why don't you like the the little game Mongoose? You are ruining the fun where other people are even bidding on Epi, llama, and me.
You failed.

That player ought to change her name.

$300 for Auto-find.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:RIPIYWG SVS. I didn't have much of a read on you yet. Or at all really.

I was going to bid on the Auto-Find a Partner power, but given some people are against us finding partners, I might hold off on that one for now.

I will, however, raise the opening bid for one of the other options.

Bid $175 on Silent Auction

Are you gonna let other people influence your action?

S~V~S wrote:

Epignosis wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
I'm not happy either. I wanted to tangle a little.

$o $he'$ $u$tained a$$ination$ $o $oon. $o $orry $V$.

Long Con wrote:Of course, I'd just like to say right now (for any murderous, property-hungry baddies that are reading) that if I ever win the bid for a property, it will IMMEDIATELY be put up for private trade, and be gone from my possession before the next night kill lands.

What if I don't believe you?

Degobunny wrote:$250 on auto find a partner

Are you sure?

juliets wrote:
Long Con wrote:So those payments to Pennsylvania RR are indeed $25 each. It's worth noting, though, TH, that boo will display the payments as $25 even if they are more, so as to hide the Railroads' actual current earning power.
Correct me if I'm wrong but can't we at least assume Pennsylvania is getting $50 because they own the Short Line?

That's the assumption I'm going on. Based on the game mechanics, $50 is the only possible amount Penn RR can earn if that property didn't find a partner last night (outside of the chance card that would double it).

SVS cannot be a baddie because she was NK'd, so Penn RR gained a colored property with Short Line.

boo wrote:Team 1: Railroads (4)
Each night, every member of this team searches for another member of the team. If they find anyone on their team, they get BTSC. Searching continues until all 4 find each other, unless any of them get lynched. None of the 4 can be nightkilled until all living members have BTSC. They kill odd nights, with the kill randomly being assigned to one member each night, until they all have BTSC, at which point it will specifically be assigned to one member.

boo wrote:Team 2: Utilities (2)
This team starts the game with BTSC. Kills even nights. Cannot be NKed by the Railroads. Any player who lands on a utility will have their property learned by the utilities, and if they are ever lynched, the utilities will have $300 applied to a bid on the property.

Long Con wrote:
birdwithteeth11 wrote:Also, LC, what exactly is your case against Epig? Do you think he's bad, or is it that you don't agree with TH's early read of Epig? Sorry if I'm making you repeat yourself, but I might have missed your reasoning somewhere.
I got nothing much against Epig. He got my vote Day One, but he's not my biggest suspicion right now. I don't really want him to be lynched, I'd rather see how his game goes after the start he chose.

And that's exactly how I felt on Day 1. I didn't want Epi to be lynched, so I voted the closest person to him in vote totals. You happened to be one of a couple people tied at 1, so you got my vote.

No I'm not suspicious of you, I just don't agree with your strategies. I also don't agree with FZ.

keys56000000000 wrote:So if Llama is right, what incentives, if any, do we have as civilians to work together? Is it mafia vs civs or mafia vs potential mafia?

I'm not convinced that Llama is right, yet. Llama, what incentive do we have to search for teammates? Once you're in a BTSC set, you're playing against everyone. You're going to have to survive every other player. Seems like when you are in a set, your overall chances of winning drop significantly. Especially those 2-player sets. Is there really any reason why we can't stick together as loose civilians? Even if some civs do search, and find their partners, we'd still have the advantage over them. At least that's how it seems to me at this early juncture.

I've signed up for a game where I get a chance to search for BTSC and increase my own power if I succeed. I'm going to take advantage of that opportunity and have fun with it.

Gaining BTSC helps you increase your rent by building houses and hotels, and gaining insight on a partner's knowledge. Otherwise, at some point, you're going to be losing more money than you gain and go bankrupt.

Consider the fact that Penn RR made $150 this turn and Electric company has made ~$350 (I forget the number) in two turns. What has Vermont Ave gotten? $36 I believe.

Long Con wrote:Good point, I was wrong there. They couldn't kill one of their own. So I guess now I'm a railroad who's intentionally getting some thing s wrong about my own role...?

Well, Made didn't misunderstand his role on purpose.

Long Con wrote:Yeayh, what did S~V~S end up paying, like $200-something for it? Making it a $400-something bid, which you could have easily outbid, Boogs.

I didn't win the RR.

I had the highest bid, but as you say, SVS got the $200 bonus for voting Made. I'm probably partially to blame for her death for acknowledging this, but I would have been killed otherwise, so... sorry again SVS.

Linki: Hi, you're talking about me again.

For the record, I was not attacking you, I just found it very easy to play devil's advocate with your opinions.

I've had no qualm with LoRab, so I'm placing my vote on the other high-vote getter FZ. Partially to self-preserve, partially for the $200 bid bonus, and partially because his? post pinged me a bit earlier.

Question: If you wish to bid on something, and have an added bonus that isn't shown. Can you bid under someone (with your first bid) with that knowledge, or does your public bid have to trump the current leader?

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