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by bea
Thu Nov 13, 2014 11:06 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monopoly Mafia [GAME OVER]
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Re: Monopoly Mafia [Night 3]

thanks for the welcome you guys! I have to open/close today and work's still wonky so I will be hecka quiet but will do my best to catch up as quickly as possible. I'm on page 3 already so woo! :D

also - wb BR!
by bea
Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:53 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monopoly Mafia [GAME OVER]
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Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 1]

Mongoose wrote:"Freakwently"???

My god, I am so fried.
freakwently?

Now I understand why I'm replacing.... :hugs: :p :hugs:

So - yea -that's where I'm at now. Interesting day 1 discussion. I can see key's point re: the union. That said, I agreed with llama more as I read it. by now this is all prolly pretty moot, but figured I'd weigh in while I giggle at an epic bea like typo. :D

Lets see what the day 1 lynch is like egh? I"m trying to pay attention to catch up but I stoopidly put on a mel brooks documentary and he keeps distracting me.
by bea
Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:50 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monopoly Mafia [GAME OVER]
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Views: 73527

Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 2]

Long Con wrote:You must think Epig's game is pretty transparent and easy to figure out if you can say you think he's not bad in the middle of Day One. I've always found him to be the type of player who enjoys having a few layers of obfuscation in the things he does, so as to intentionally be hard to read.

Do you have a good history of correct Day One reads on Epig? I'm just interested to know how you came to that conclusion about him, and why you think it's right.

I tend to think of epi as this forum's less Texas version of wabbit.....

So I guess what I'm saying is that I agree - it's a bit hard to figure out where he is on d1 or like d12.


also - yea - I'm here in my catsup. :) Mel brooks doc is over - lets see how many pages I can power through egh?
by bea
Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:56 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monopoly Mafia [GAME OVER]
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Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 2]

Long Con wrote:inb4 someone says "but Elochin wouldn't have had BTSC with Made or known he was a baddie!"... all she had to do in Lorab's scenario is believe the slip was real. Lorab linki'd me when I was posting, so the reat of this post is unrelated to her case.
* * * * *
In a recent game, I correctly called out Lorab and Canucklehead as baddies, because they trusted me and openly said they thought I was Civvie in the thread, multiple times. I found it suspicious, because I was a baddie, and I started to try to figure out why they thought I was Civvie. I came to the conclusion that they probably hoped I was Civvie, but that they were simply saying those things in order to placate me, or to make me feel more in sync with them in the thread. It was a way of acting that was, at its core, intended to make themselves seem more Civvie.

I'm not saying that Metalmarsh and Turnip Head are baddies. I am saying that their trust in Epignosis on Day One fits the basic points of what Lorab and Canucklehead were doing in that game, in that they don't have anything much to go on to say they trust him. It could be viewed as a way for baddies to set up a trust-warmed in-thread relationship with a player that they believe would be a better ally than enemy.

And, well, Epig is that sort of player. :eek:
oh - those are good points too. They really were buttering you up in that game. I took the opposite stance. Because well. Yea. Because. It would be really weird if I started trusting you like all of a sudden. :p can't wait to see how this plays out - should prolly quit typing and read more. :derp:
by bea
Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:04 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monopoly Mafia [GAME OVER]
Replies: 2891
Views: 73527

Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 2]

Degobunny wrote:$250 on auto find a partner :feb:
Just wanted to say - I adore you for this Ash. :)

It has shocked me how alike we think in a good way. :)
by bea
Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:04 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monopoly Mafia [GAME OVER]
Replies: 2891
Views: 73527

Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 4]

oh also - yes - I have been drinking...
by bea
Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:14 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monopoly Mafia [GAME OVER]
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Views: 73527

Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 2]

Turnip Head wrote:LC your tone this game has been completely different from what it was in the recent Dr Who game. Was that an intentional choice you made while playing this game, or does it maybe tell us something about your role this time around?
I'm curious about how the tone is different here. I'm sorry if this is addressed as I read, it was just something I thought was interesting.
by bea
Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:28 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monopoly Mafia [GAME OVER]
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Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 2]

Hedgeowl wrote:
Long Con wrote:
juliets wrote:
Long Con wrote:
FZ. wrote:I just saw that I stepped on the baddies property. Great, they get $240 for 3 people stepping on...
Yeah... by my spreadsheet, Electric Company is up $480. The second biggest net earner is Metalmarsh at +$200. So if MM is Electric Company he's so rich! :zombie: :haha:

Epig seems to be down the most, at -$500, from his big bid on the Chance card (will you let us know when you use it, Ep? Are you using it yourself or someone else? Is it Chance or Community Chest that can send you Directly To Jail? That would be funny.) Then Hedgeowl seems to be down $375, which I believe was the price she paid for the Windfall.

Ha, I just thought of another reason Epig could give for the early big bid. Maybe the baddies will consider him 'closer to bankruptcy' and avoid wasting their nightkill on a player that is so much closer to death. :biggrin:
LC I had $275 for Hedgie so went back and checked when I saw your $375. It is indeed $275 in the thread, bid was made right before end of period. Would there have been some reason $100 would have attached to the $275 that maybe I'm not thinking of?
Hedgeowl also paid $100 to Income Tax on the first move.

Well, apparently i need a SS too then. :blush: i was going to correct you as well. I am not good with money irl either. :noble:

so much this. *sigh* I will be keeping our host busy with annoying "wait? how much did I spend? I thought I had x dollars." IF this game is anything like my checkbook, I'll be dead in like 2 cycles. :(
by bea
Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:36 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monopoly Mafia [GAME OVER]
Replies: 2891
Views: 73527

Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 2]

LoRab wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Lorab indicted me of being unkind toward her in every context. I have done my due diligence and I can find no place (other than when we were bad together in chat) of her being angry with me. If Lorab can identify where I have been rude or "attacking," I would like the opportunity to make that right.

Barring that, I think Lorab = bad.
You think I'm mad because I'm annoyed? That is just not true. I'm just sick of the way you always say I'm wrong. You're right, I haven't been angry, because I don't usually let my frustration out. But show me one time when I have had an opinion and you haven't told me that I'm wrong.

And why do you think I'm bad, exactly? Is it because I'm fighting back?

Anyway, I have my third 14 hour work day in a row tomorrow and I'm not sure how much I'll be around tomorrow.

Voting Elo. Because of the points I made earlier. And she hasn't defended, or even acknowledged. And I have no reason to think differently from my original thoughts (except for Epi saying that I can't possibly be right).

fwiw - not defending lorab - not trying to damn epi.

but I remember JC asking early of epi about elo's allignment. And she said "he's only been wrong once."

I disagree. He's been wrong at least twice. The first time - they were baddies together in the grim game rox and I hosted
The second time - the time JC rembers (I think?) is in Potter. He was REALLY bad at reading his wife that game. OR she was JUST THAT GOOD at snowing him. ;)

still sooo much more to catsup on... :sigh:
by bea
Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:52 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monopoly Mafia [GAME OVER]
Replies: 2891
Views: 73527

Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 2]

thellama73 wrote:Guys come on. Long Con isn't a baddie. I think if anyone can read him, I can. I know I voted for him yesterday, but his gameplay since then has not been baddie like in the slightest.
I'm super impressed by your confidence in being able to read LC. You know he was the inventor and cause of :feb: right?
by bea
Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:04 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monopoly Mafia [GAME OVER]
Replies: 2891
Views: 73527

Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 2]

MovingPictures07 wrote:Okay, yay game!

First off, nice job on Made! And RIP S~V~S.

So the utilities know the roles of TH, Elo, LoRab, and zeek? Something to keep in mind, especially to see what players think of these individuals.

Not totally sure what I think about TH and LC at the moment, or Epig and LoRab for that matter, but I doubt I'll be voting there today (more on that in just a bit here).

Interesting thoughts on searching vs. not searching. keys made some good points, but so did llama. I suppose every player will inevitably decide what they think here each night, and this discussion seems to be gone, so I won't continue the debate unnecessarily. However, I will say that this post I agreed with wholeheartedly:
thellama73 wrote:
keys56000000000 wrote:Llama, it's cool that you're invoking Nash equilibrium, I dig it. However, unless you can show me the spreadsheets where you've gone over every potential scenario in the game, just saying "game theory" doesn't actually mean much. You need to have studied this particular game to know its theory.
You don't. You just need to understand that when individual interest trumps group interest and there's no way to detect cheaters, individual interest wins out.

I think it's a very, very, very poorly considered strategy to focus our lynches on trying to prevent Monopolies. The mafia can prevent monopolies just fine using their kills. Lynches are the only way we have to kill off the railroads and utilities.
Nonetheless, I can't help but wonder what the mafia would want to push in that discussion.

On that note, I really think FZ. may be bad. The way she contributed to the discussion backing keys's POV somewhat subtly in addition to her D1 vote struck me as not genuine:
FZ. wrote:I'm going to bed. Voting Epi for using so much money.
I have a hard time believing a civvie FZ. would have used something flimsy/illogical like this for a D1 vote, even if it was D1.

I also don't like:
FZ. wrote:
thellama73 wrote:I can't help but be a little $u$piciou$ of the people voting for Epigno$i$. Fell$ like an ea$y lynch train, if you know what I mean.
I actually find Boogs a little suspicious for voting Epig as well, but on the other hand, don't we all want to bandwagon on a lynch to get something out of it? So voting for someone who didn't get a vote yet seems like bad strategy for a player. That's what you get when all you care about is money and power :srsnod:
This. She doesn't address her reasoning but drops this little post I found insincere as well.
FZ. wrote:
zeek wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:I don't think Epi is bad, or at least I don't think he has BTSC yet... but if he has a majority vote 10 minutes before deadline you can bet your $weet bippy that I'll vote for him and then try to take his card. :slick:
Yeah, pretty sure this will be standard. Not criticising at all, but we'll all probably do this at some point and vote patterns won't be that helpful. It's also going to make bandwagons very likely amd less likely to result in a mafia lynch.

I understand the thoughts on Epi but don't necessarily agree. I expected some people to flash the cash early and I'm not that surprised its him. Dunno, as usual he's not defending himself so its hard to tell what to make of it :haha:
He bid freaking 500$. That's half of the money we initially got. Just strikes me weird when all people talk about is how we need the money to not die
Weird? Since when did weird = suspicious? And why didn't she say this when she voted him then? And how does this make Epig bad?

And all of her subsequent questioning seems OTT:
FZ. wrote:
Epignosis wrote:It probably won't. You wanted to know how I would get money- I plan to get money the very way anyone in Monopoly would get money. Luck.
Yep, your answers definitely make me want to take my vote off...or not. I don't like lynching civs, so I'm trying to get to the bottom of your actions. What was the point in your bid? Did you just not think it through and went with it at that moment? Would you do it again now?
We all know Epig can be aggressive; I saw his $500 bet as totally in character and not indicative of alignment, personally. Most players, if given the utility role, would be that aggressive to publicly drop that much money on something so trivial if they had the extra money. This suspicion falls into the analyzing someone's behavior and pegging them into a role even though they'd likely act that way regardless -- like when a lot of people thought I was the unlynchable role in Homestar Runner because I was playing so aggressively, even though everyone knows I post a ton and act aggressively often regardless of alignment.

Additionally...
FZ. wrote:Nice job lynching Made.

Here's a thought. There are 3 players who would love to get their hands on the card. What if we pick someone who is the most trusted in the game (of course we vote on that), which granted is hard to pick at the moment, but still, and we let them make the bid. It's a risk, because we could end up picking a baddie, but on the other hand, all other players can't hide behind "I'm trying to prevent the baddies from getting it" excuse, and if one of the players falls on it later on, and the money is doubled, we know that person was bad in the first place.
I found this line of thinking suspicious right from the get go, but ESPECIALLY so considering S~V~S nabbed Made's card and now she's dead.

The civvie FZ. I know would be wary about trusting anyone.
FZ. wrote:
zeek wrote:Hold on, this protect power is only good for protecting someone else? Glad I was outbid :P

I'm not sure where I stand on suspicions, not many standout things in my mind. This is the main one:
FZ. wrote:Nice job lynching Made.

Here's a thought. There are 3 players who would love to get their hands on the card. What if we pick someone who is the most trusted in the game (of course we vote on that), which granted is hard to pick at the moment, but still, and we let them make the bid. It's a risk, because we could end up picking a baddie, but on the other hand, all other players can't hide behind "I'm trying to prevent the baddies from getting it" excuse, and if one of the players falls on it later on, and the money is doubled, we know that person was bad in the first place.
This may have been a way to ensure the baddies could kill two birds with one stone: NK and take the card, and eliminate a trusted person. This has my attention.
No, it was just a bad idea apparently, first, because I didn't think through the fact that they would just kill the person who won the bid, and second, because I didn't know that the RR would still show 25. If you want a lynch me for being being stupid, go ahead, I deserve it :derp:
I also found this response not genuine, especially the last line. Seems totally out of character for FZ.

I feel bad because it's so awesome to be playing a game with her again after so long on TS, but I think I'll be voting FZ. today. In fact, since we can change votes and due to my level of confidence, I'll vote her now. :srsnod:








Epignosis wrote:
Elohcin wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
keys56000000000 wrote:Yeah make it rain!

$60 on the extra die role power!
I'll make $ure you get an extra die. :feb:
you gonna keep up he $$$$$ all game Epi?
Ca$h rule$ everything around me.

Also, this. :noble:

you're pretty heavy handed here about what a civ fz would do or not do. You make assumptions about what a civ fz would do that calculate nothing about her life or what is going on in her world or even something so daring as she might be trying to change her play style.

And how did that vote work out for you?
by bea
Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:08 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monopoly Mafia [GAME OVER]
Replies: 2891
Views: 73527

Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 2]

zeek wrote:I'm voting FZ. This is the second pity post when someone suspects her. Not really buying it, no defence at all to what MP has said and a "lynch me for being stupid" when I questioned her :rolleyes:

Having a lot of long days at the moment so it's bedtime for me.

fwiw -I get that - sometimes when you are civ and know you aren't doing your duty, you just hope to land on the granade so that the other active civs live another day.
by bea
Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:11 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monopoly Mafia [GAME OVER]
Replies: 2891
Views: 73527

Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 2]

juliets wrote:I thought Lorab's point was we need to be able to disagree without implying the other is stupid?

sooooooooooooooooooooooo much this,
by bea
Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:18 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monopoly Mafia [GAME OVER]
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Views: 73527

Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 2]

juliets wrote:
HannaK wrote:I am inclined to believe FZ because back in the day I sorta played the pity card when I was civvie as well when I felt overwhelmed with the game and everything, plus it is also an indicator FZ doenst have BTSC.
The person I am mostly looking to right now is juliets, now I am nor familair with the style juliets normally plays, but looking through the posts I find it weird that most of them are either questions directed at other players who they find suspicous without really contributing anything substantial or info about votes and/or money. To me this feels like a good baddie tactic, posting without revealing too much about yourself so I am gonna go ahead and vote juliets. I'm not 100% convinced but so far this has spiked my baddie-sensor the most.
HannaK, my mafia style is to ask questions. Also, I got lynched once for being too nice. These two things are hallmarks of my style, i.e., regardless of my alignment I ask a lot of questions - that's how I process information - and I am normally polite when playing. You can ask the people who play with me often and I'm pretty sure they will say the same. I'm not sure what you mean about revealing anything about myself - did you read the post I just posted about who I am thinking about right now?

Speaking of that TH, TH there is one other person who has caught my eye depending on how he answers my question and that is llama. I forgot to include that in my last post.

I still win getting votes "I am voting you because I trust you." BEST REASON EVER FOR VOTES. :haha: ok - sure I was bad that game, but still, "I'm voiting you because I trust you' Oh dana. I hope some day I can make it up to her. :)
by bea
Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:24 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monopoly Mafia [GAME OVER]
Replies: 2891
Views: 73527

Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 2]

LoRab wrote:Glad I had time to pop on.
zeek wrote:Hey MP, interested to hear your thoughts when you get back to the thread.

I'm not interested in the content of the Epi-Lorab argument, more the context. Personally see an overreaction on Lorab's part but that doesn't mean he's bad at all. Also:
LoRab wrote:<snip> If I cannot be correct, then how can I be intelligent?
You can be intelligent but wrong, and really dumb but right. Two aren't mutally exclusive.

More interesting is the TH-LC argument. Interesting developments. I was under the impression the cards of a NK'd player would be taken by the killer as well, but there you go.

Not sure how I'll vote, could both be civ on civ. Still mulling over FZ's plan of letting the most trusted player win the bid as well. Probably be voting for one of the people mentioned in this post however.
First of all, I'm female. Second of all, it's a tone thing. You can't possibly be correct and why would someone possibly do that have an implication that the person who came up with the idea is not thinking.

And if you only read this thread, I could see it as being seen as overreacting. But it's happened in MANY games and I reached my breaking point.
thellama73 wrote:Also, Lorab's argument amounts to:
"If you disagree with me, you think I'm wrong. If I'm wrong, I must be stupid. Therefore, disagreeing with me is tantamount to calling me stupid."

That way, madness lies. We have to be able to disagree with each other, or else mafia has no point. Lighten up.
Is this why you voted for me without posting about it?

And I'm not saying not to disagree. I'm saying that you can disagree by saying, "I don't see it that way," or "I don't think that's what's happening." You don't have to tell the other person that they have come up with a ridiculous idea that can't possibly be right.
Elohcin wrote:Lorab, please tell me where I defended Made in hopes that I could have BTSC with him? Where do you even get this kind of evidence that I am trying to get BTSC with him?

For the record, you are incorrect. I have no BTSC or connection to the baddies and have no desire for it.
I didn't say you had BTSC. I theorized that you believed Made to be your teammate and wanted to save him. You did not defend him--that's exactly my point. You didn't even mention him--which at that point in the conversation was odd. And a nice way for a baddie to distance from a teammate--by avoiding the conversation and mentioning someone else you find suspicious.
juliets wrote:I thought Lorab's point was we need to be able to disagree without implying the other is stupid?
Exactly.

Although I think this goes back to being an immigrant to this forum. And why I strongly consider leaving it every game. The friendly tone that exists on the other forums where I've played just isn't that same here. Attacks often seem personal and disagreements aren't done in a way that are disagreeing with the ideas. I think that my style just doesn't fit in here. but I like a lot of my friends here and I don't have anywhere else to play right now, so I keep sticking around. Maybe I should just learn my lesson and either accept that it's ok to tell others that they can't possibly be right and not understand that doing so is different from disagreeing with someone.

And that one can respect that another player, with a whole crap ton of experience, who happens to think differently than you, might just be right sometimes. Especially when you've seen it happen (and related to ideas that you called stupid).
Epignosis wrote:Lorab, I apologize if my direct approach in your prior experience with me had been off-putting. I mean that. However, you're rather direct too.
LoRab wrote: But show me one time when I have had an opinion and you haven't told me that I'm wrong.
All of here that I can tell, for one. I can pull up more if need be. :)
I'm not going to reread that whole game, and I don't remember specifically. I was perhaps exaggerating. And it's not so much your direct approach but the way you say things. And whatever. I'm not going to change you. You don't seem to have an interest in changing. I'll just ignore it. I just don't do well with people who are insulting to my intelligence and insight--and you often have insulted both through your reaction to my ideas.

And I'm not even sure how expressing anger after being told that an idea that I had can't possibly be correct (when, it can actually be correct...just like a night poll, in the game when we had BTSC, resulting in a protection that led to a failed kill was an idea you thought couldn't possibly be true--and was, in the end, true).

My brain works differently than yours. It doesn't make me smarter. It doesn't make you smarter. We are probably of equal intelligence--you seem to be about as smart as I am, at least. We just think through things entirely differently. It would be nice to appreciate the diversity instead of attacking it.

Anyway, if I die. You'll all know that my reaction has been emotionally honest and that it is not indicative of my being bad. Because I'm not bad. I'm civ. I'm just a lonely, lowly street trying to do my best and have fun.

And I need to get back to work now.

I'm tempted to change my vote for the sake of self-preservation, but I don't particularly suspect FZ at this point and I do suspect elo. So, I'm keeping my vote where it is and hoping no one else votes for me and that there isn't any pesky vote manipulation.
fwiw - I <3 you lorab. And I'm so happy you play with us. :lorab: I hope that we can always be challenged by your insights because diversity makes us stronger.
by bea
Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:32 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monopoly Mafia [GAME OVER]
Replies: 2891
Views: 73527

Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 2]

Elohcin wrote:
Long Con wrote:That's the point, not mentioning Made at all is telling in itself. I've been caught as a baddie for never talking about my teammate at all.
No offense, but I've been bad enough times with others who are really good baddies to know that you always interact/talk about your teammates a little. I honestly didn't see the suspicions on Made to be any good. I thought I was onto something with Juliets, so I went with that and didn't think mentioning Made was needed. But whatever, you don't believe me, lynch me and you will find out.

@ Juliets: I read all of Lorabs posts. I didn't find anything that set up a good case for me and Made being teammates.

I have an idea. Epi, what do you think of me this game? Since everyone always seems to believe that you can read me so well.
cvfdv
I firmly raise my hand in disagrement at the idea that he can read you well at all. :p And also he may have had some good luck at it - but he failed too - and also I've seen him vouch you and lie becaue that was in your both best interests. It's the curse lc and br bear, the curse I and bdh bear, Daisy and socky bear, and keys and splintsy. Yes- his opinion of you will always be one i take in to conciderations - as well as yours on him.


I find it EXTREAMLY FUNNY - that no one asked elo what she thought of epi that I see yet.



the vouch of a spouse only goes so far.
by bea
Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:59 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monopoly Mafia [GAME OVER]
Replies: 2891
Views: 73527

Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 2]

Elohcin wrote:maybe I should have gone after BR with my suspish instead of Juliets. :ponder:

btw, I don't really think Epi can read me like a book, I just think it is silly that so many others do. asking Epi was more of a joke than anything, although I am interested in what he thinks :) I figured it was good as time as any to ask and why not I do it before everyone else begin to ask him.

linki...no one else finds this back and forth to be odd?

"Who do you find suspicious?"

"No one."

"Okay, me either."

what?! why ask that if you have no intentions of carrying on the conversation? I don't understand why NO ONE else finds this odd and like distancing. I really do! :sigh:

linki - splints, even if we both checked each other, if we aren't the same color we wouldn't gain btsc. I don't get why you assume we would. And when did he defend me. I didn't see that. If I had, I wouldn't have asked what he thought of my affiliation.

more linki!

more linki!

of the whole exchange - I STILL find it odd that NONE ever asks you what you think of him. :sigh:

and yea - I didn't find the convo weird given what I know of their past history - but I also know you don't know that So you might find it odd.

and now you are replaced so it doesn't really matter anymore :(
by bea
Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:05 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monopoly Mafia [GAME OVER]
Replies: 2891
Views: 73527

Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 4]

Turnip Head wrote:
LoRab wrote:
bea wrote:
thellama73 wrote:Guys come on. Long Con isn't a baddie. I think if anyone can read him, I can. I know I voted for him yesterday, but his gameplay since then has not been baddie like in the slightest.
I'm super impressed by your confidence in being able to read LC. You know he was the inventor and cause of :feb: right?
Just for the sake of accurate history, LC did design :feb:, but I actually requested the creation of the smiley. Because, really, if an idea ever needed a smiley, it was FEB. He's actually modeled after Diamond Dog. I can't remember who was the first to be described as a FEB, or who was the first to use the term.
I was about to say, Diamond Dog was truly the original FEB. I'm thinking the term came from the Angel game on TP but that could be wrong. Or it might have been Sco's Mafia 2099 game. DD was basically a FEB in every single game he played. :P

(Someone please find him and force him to join us here!)
Fair enough historians. DD was FEB first or second or third right behind or in front of LC or maybe Lorab. :p

fwiw - Diamond Dog is the civ ninja in my Bowie game - cuz that's how I roll :noble:

And also - I can't believe I'm still 15 pages behind but this is the on topic I get to castsup on. :sigh:
by bea
Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:09 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monopoly Mafia [GAME OVER]
Replies: 2891
Views: 73527

Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 4]

thellama73 wrote:Points to bea for posting 11 times in a row.

$10 on rob.
what - I'm just trying to catsup as fast as I can - and this vote ends sat?? fuck's sake. :( I'll keep doing my best to keep reading
by bea
Sat Nov 15, 2014 6:57 pm
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Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 4]

Long Con wrote:I took llama's comment to bea to mean "Bea gets points for posting 11 times in a row" whereas I think bea took it to mean "I'm pointing at bea, pointing out a flagrant undecuple-poster!" At least, I think that's what happened, looks like it was taken the wrong way?

I also believe I recall one of the rules in bidding is that you have to beat the last person's bid by what you bid, possible $200 bonus notwithstanding. So Turnip Head would have had to bid $11 in order to beat Lorab's $205.

Turnip Head may be bad, but I don't believe he won the auction for Electric Company and lied about it... so it's not really valid to suspect him for that. Llama's case feels solid and doesn't include the auction result - my eye is definitely back on TH, and I haven't forgotten my early theory about him trusting Epig.
Na - I realized what time of the am it was and that I needed some sleep. Lol - skipping the thread catch up and working on getting this phase caught up so I can make some sort of early vote decision. I'll be at work when the vote ends tonight. :( I have tomorrow off and outside of cooking dinner for the hubster and his friend for football day - I got nothing but mafia catchup going on. :D
by bea
Sat Nov 15, 2014 7:00 pm
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Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 4]

thellama73 wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
bea wrote:
thellama73 wrote:Points to bea for posting 11 times in a row.

$10 on rob.
what - I'm just trying to catsup as fast as I can - and this vote ends sat?? fuck's sake. :( I'll keep doing my best to keep reading
Not sure why you had to shut her down :(
I see that I was misunderstood. The word "points" in my post was meant to convey the concept of awarding points for an achievement. "You win! Point to you!"

I did not mean "indicating with the index finger in an accusatory manner."

I apologize for the miscommunication.
No worries on my end llama - I had worked an O/C that day and of course caught my second wind at 11 pm. Came home and was playing catsup and watching tv till I realized it was like 4 amish and I'd been up more than 20 hours straight so I went to bed. hehe.
by bea
Sat Nov 15, 2014 7:06 pm
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Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 4]

Turnip Head wrote:No... lol

Mongoose got replaced. I think it was Bea.

Yup - :) I iz an exgoosey :D
by bea
Sat Nov 15, 2014 7:17 pm
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Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 4]

ok - Imma mull on this while pizza making. I will get a break before lynch close to catch up on what happens but it'll still be an early vote. And quick from my phone. I'm not really sure where my vote should go. :(
by bea
Sat Nov 15, 2014 9:45 pm
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Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 4]

We're slow now which means we wont be.later. gonna vote.hedge.now.
by bea
Tue Nov 18, 2014 10:03 pm
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Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 5]

ugh. you guys. I think I'm getting sick. I've felt yuck all day - got home from work. Took a nap. and am ready to go right back to bed. :( Don't even want dinner. :(

Looks like boogs is going so I'll vote there for the cash bonus and because I doubt a vote anywhere else will do much good anyway.

Sorry I'm lame this game. :(

<~~~ worst replacer ever. :sigh:
by bea
Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:37 pm
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Re: Monopoly Mafia [Night 5]

RIP Boogs :(
thellama73 wrote:Can we please lynch TH tomorrow? Since Rob was wrong, I must have been right. YOu can't argue with that logic!
I could....but you'd counter it with weird llama logic. :p
by bea
Fri Nov 21, 2014 5:55 pm
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Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 6]

Turnip Head wrote:I'm not sure about Llama. I think his case on me is silly (obviously), and his jokey posts about partners remind me of when he did the same thing in the Harry Potter game when we were baddies together. But that's all I've got on him. He plays with bravado whether civvie or baddie.

I think an inactive player is Water Works and want to see what happens with the kill tonight.

Lorab is my main suspicion for a railroad but I don't see that gaining any traction. Her vote for me came off as extremely defensive, like she was just happy to have a reason to vote for me and scuttle back out of the thread. Her "I'm not a baddie" song and dance means absolutely nothing any more, she does that twirl every game.

Bea has been even quieter than usual and I feel she might be trying to intentionally slip under the radar. I don't remember any of her contributions to the game and that concerns me.

I'm 100% convinced LC is in an LMS group and will need to be lynched eventually. I'd rather lynch a straight up baddie than go for an LMS, but to be honest the LMS's are just as much of a threat to the civvies.

In the end I'll be voting for whoever has the most votes to help ensure I don't get lynched. But I'd rather try to go for one of the above players because I'm just not feeling sure about Llama. I think he's just blinded by his suspicion of me.
Yea. I know. I'm the suckiest replacement ever. Not intentionally trying to fly under the radar just super busy with real life. I didn't sign up for the game initially for a reason, but I hate to leave a host dangling when they are in need so there ya go. I'm having a difficult time trying to check what I've missed + get the swing of the mechanics + trying to keep track of who's bought what etc in the little bit of free time I do have.

Not sure where my vote is going, but fwiw - what little I have been able to grasp of the game so far, I am not really seeing llama's case on you TH, so I know I'm not voting there.
by bea
Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:29 pm
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Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 6]

At.work now - don't know that I will get.another.break before the end of the.poll. voting llama. It feels.like his th suspish is manufactured. Can't see why he would ignore.the.rebutal if he were not a baddie/lam team.
by bea
Sun Nov 23, 2014 4:58 pm
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Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 7] - not Night 6! ;)

RIP llama and zeek. Though from what I've been reading - llama was not quite so "I only have one partner and therefore not bad, not LSM." as he presented himself :p


HannaK wrote:I think LCs case has some valid points but this one:
Turnip Head wrote:
Long Con wrote:One of TH's main suspicions is Lorab. He is really pushing the idea that she's a Railroad. Lorab landed on Electric Company on Day 1. If TH is Water Works, then he's doing this because he knows that Lorab is a Railroad, and he's now moving to take her out. It makes sense to wait a while after learning her role so early, because she would be looking for a Utility coming after her after landing on it. And in the last lynch, TH vs Llama, you would think that Llama would be the first vote, since this was his case... but Lorab is actually the first vote.

In the 'Mexican Standoff' situation of a Uitility knowing a Railroad, and a Railroad knowing they know... the Railroad would probably act fast to eliminate the Utility once they know who it is.
If I KNEW Lorab was a railroad, if I've known since Day 1 as you claim, and IF I'm Water Works... I would have tried to NK Lorab and I would have done it immediately. She probably would have swiftly received the Hedgeowl treatment after surviving. I would NOT tip my hand of being the game's only rolechecker by accusing her straight up, I'm smart enough to know better than that.
I dunno TH defence to this point makes a lot of sense to me so I don't see enough there for TH being a baddie. I still hope for some (more) input from low-posters, apart from that I would be fine with lynching someone from a LMS group as well since (for me personally the reds) they are a big threat to consider as well
I'm quoting hanna's post because it's *exactly* the thought I had reading through this.

I get you LC, but TH is right in the defense here. IF TH is water works and if he knew LR was a RR - the smarter move would be to NK and stay hidden rather than try to lynch her and potentially reveal yourself. I figured that out easily enough and I'm the world's suckiest baddie. Soooo....either TH isn't water works, LR isn't rail road or they both aren't who you think they are in this theory.
by bea
Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:02 pm
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Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 6]

MovingPictures07 wrote:RIP zeek. That's a bummer.

So it seems Llama had LMS conditions after all, even if newly acquired.... I still think that negates my LC/Llama connection though.

There have been good points on the LC/TH front. I find LC's case much more convincing potentially than Llama's. However... I am having trouble discerning one of two possibilities:

1) LC is dead on; TH is WW and LoRab is railroad.
2) LC is incorrect.

I think my gut still leans towards #2, with TH being a civvie since he seems genuine.

That said, I find it really odd Hanna and Bea come in here and say what they have. If #1 was the case, would either of them be so bold as to assert such a thing? It just seems weird to me given both of them have been very nonopinionated all game. Thoughts here?
LC missed the obvious in his case. I know it's hard to believe, but occasionally it can happen.


I can't comment lots about moneies being spent - tbh I'm not even sure how much money I have at this point and at least once a day I have to look to see what color group I'm in. But I've been reading since I've replaced in (even if I haven't back read enough) - and yea - obvious flaw in theory is obvious.

It's hard to ignore TH's rebutal. If I were the role checker and I held a kill, I would have killed the railroad rather than go after them in the thread. I would have kept the idea that I was the role checker secret. I suck at being bad and I know that much. TH is way more suave than I am at being baddie. I have a hard time following that bit of logic in LC's case.

Active or not - flawed logic is flawed. :shrug:
by bea
Sun Nov 23, 2014 8:17 pm
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Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 7]

hi domodom! what say you sir? :)

I'm late in the game so I'd like to hear what you think about everything outside of your normal lacky comments. ;) fill a sista up please :D
by bea
Sun Nov 23, 2014 8:25 pm
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Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 7]

MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm not trying to discredit your opinion; I just know you're wrong. It seems you suspect me because my playstyle this game is different because I'm really busy and distracted and posting less. Sure, all of that is true. But it doesn't mean I'm less interested in finding baddies just because I'm not manically throwing names out all over the thread. I did that enough in DW and I just don't feel as invested this game (not boo's fault, it's really entirely due to my schedule). And for when I am a baddie, what you said is just not true. If anything, I throw out more opinions when I'm bad. And regarding the "probably much more than many", I just find it odd you single me out for that when there are plenty of other players who have contributed to the same or lesser degree than me.

Epig is always very opinionated when he even slightly thinks I am bad, and in 5 whole cycles he never said anything against me. I haven't killed anyone.
so again you are suspicious of me for being busy and less involved but expecting everyone else to understand you are busy?

Really - I'm not at all saying I suspect you -but this is now two games running. Can we at least get to the same place where we're both not what we expect each other to be at because RL sucks? I don't get why you ask for the pass while you don't give it to anyone else.
by bea
Sun Nov 23, 2014 8:31 pm
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Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 7]

MovingPictures07 wrote:I don't know where this sudden push from you is coming from, but you're wrong about me. I am not bad and if anyone wants to find an RR they should look elsewhere.

I still think TH made a good point about LoRab being an RR and she's been playing a pretty low key game. But this gets into my question about LC's theory: If Hanna or Bea were an RR teammate of LoRab, does anyone think that's how they would handle that situation?

My eyes are on LoRab and Hanna as possible RRs at the moment, but with Reds, Light Blues, Greens, and Yellows all being LMS, it seems a significant majority of the players living right now would more likely be out for an "anyone but them" lynch today.

I also think keys might need examining, since he refuses to come and play the game with us, and I find his D1 agenda benefiting an RR.
I'm flat out not a railroad. I don't know where hanna and Lorab lie but I flat out saw the flawed logic in LC's case. Hanna saw it too. So I agreed with her.

Keys might need reexamining. I'm all ? mark there with him. I have more reading to do. And am prolly no where near sober enough to do. two birds one stone fails in this game. I'm sorry
by bea
Sun Nov 23, 2014 8:35 pm
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Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 7]

MovingPictures07 wrote:
fingersplints wrote:I'm not twisting your words. You are the one throwing the "I'm so busy" card out there and how you posting less doesn't make you bad. All I am saying is it doesn't make you good either.

I do not know your role, and I do not believe it is a civvie one. I am allowed to suspect you. I am not sure why that would make you resentful.

linki. You asked me a question, and I responded. And then it went back and forth from there. No where did I "push" anything.
Well, that's fair, and of course you are allowed to suspect me, but you're wrong, and I don't want to be lynched.

I just don't like the "posting less" argument against me because I've wanted to play this game to my fullest ability but I've been insanely busy, and I always feel I get held to a higher standard of baddie hunting and posting than some other players do, just because often times I get obsessive with games and post a lot. My posting volume has practically nothing to do with my alignment, ever.

Who else do you suspect? And I presume you find merit in LC's case since you've expressed feelings regarding TH being bad previously?
by bea
Sun Nov 23, 2014 8:41 pm
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Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 7]

bea wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
fingersplints wrote:I'm not twisting your words. You are the one throwing the "I'm so busy" card out there and how you posting less doesn't make you bad. All I am saying is it doesn't make you good either.

I do not know your role, and I do not believe it is a civvie one. I am allowed to suspect you. I am not sure why that would make you resentful.

linki. You asked me a question, and I responded. And then it went back and forth from there. No where did I "push" anything.
Well, that's fair, and of course you are allowed to suspect me, but you're wrong, and I don't want to be lynched.

I just don't like the "posting less" argument against me because I've wanted to play this game to my fullest ability but I've been insanely busy, and I always feel I get held to a higher standard of baddie hunting and posting than some other players do, just because often times I get obsessive with games and post a lot. My posting volume has practically nothing to do with my alignment, ever.

Who else do you suspect? And I presume you find merit in LC's case since you've expressed feelings regarding TH being bad previously?
dito that underlined part brother. Why should I give you the busy pass when you seem to suspect me across two boards for the exact same circumstance?
by bea
Sun Nov 23, 2014 8:43 pm
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Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 7]

Turnip Head wrote:
bea wrote:hi domodom! what say you sir? :)

I'm late in the game so I'd like to hear what you think about everything outside of your normal lacky comments. ;) fill a sista up please :D
I do believe Dom is modding. Hahaha.
lol - ok - then I guess I can't expect him to give his opinions :D

*facepalm*

do we have a facepalm smiley? we need one - if only because I'm a member of this forum. :p
by bea
Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:04 pm
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Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 7]

fingersplints wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:
bea wrote:hi domodom! what say you sir? :)

I'm late in the game so I'd like to hear what you think about everything outside of your normal lacky comments. ;) fill a sista up please :D
I do believe Dom is modding. Hahaha.
Maybe he is secretly playing and is just another low poster. :)

DAMN YOU DOM!!!!! *SHAKES FIST*
by bea
Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:10 pm
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Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 7]

S~V~S wrote:Wow that was fast, lol.

On night 3 I won $100 for being one of 7 people to roll 7; I presume that the other 6 also won prizes; DP was not one of them iirc. But discussing windfalls might be something we want to think about if we start using hotel survival as a litmus test of big $$.
I won a similar prize on the 7's night. I'm not even joking. IDK what it was or what my cash count is at this moment.


It was prolly 1oo. I'm srrsly that out of it this game. I'm such fail its not even funnyl :(
by bea
Fri Nov 28, 2014 4:44 pm
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Re: Monopoly Mafia [Night 8]

You guys - I am so so so sorry I went MIA - I sorta forgot I was playing this game with the work and the holiday. Been extra busy at work and I spent all day wed cooking turkey/ entertaining company/ spending time with BDH.

Of course, my boss actually did his job so we've been extra busy with food orders to local targets/mall stores/etc for the staff of people who have to work though the holiday madness. :( I'm in overtime already and I have 2 more shifts to go. Hopefully starting Sunday I can get back into the swing of things.
by bea
Fri Nov 28, 2014 5:14 pm
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Re: Monopoly Mafia [Night 8]

honestly - prolly the ones that had the votes - ninja and degobunny.

Not the best answer in the world for sure, but the truest.
by bea
Sun Nov 30, 2014 3:55 am
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Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 9]

juliets wrote:RIP bass.

SVS, bea also landed on a chance where the card gave her the same thing you got, $50 per person. She got yours before you got yours. I'm sure that helped her survive the hotel. I have no idea what she's gotten in rent of course so she could be much higher.
I also got.a.prize.during.the.7 thing and have.bought not.a.single.thing. ;)
by bea
Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:14 pm
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Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 11]

Turnip Head wrote:I really think it's MM you guys. He's the one who says with such certainty that I'm a pink, that DF was a railroad... I really don't see anyone else acting as much like Water Works as he has, given which players' roles we know WW has learned.
Have you and had DF landed on WW in the past?
by bea
Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:14 pm
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Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 11]

sorry for the double post - also - who else has landed on ww?
by bea
Sun Dec 07, 2014 11:45 pm
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Re: Monopoly Mafia [Night 11]

I.just.nope.remembered.to.come.vote
:(
by bea
Wed Dec 10, 2014 5:50 am
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Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 12]

fingersplints wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:This smells fishy to me.

I think it's much more likely LC was aligned with Llama, making him a Green.

It's odd that Hanna, who has voiced little for most of the game beyond just going with the flow, would propose such a line of thinking. :ponder:
You're still on about that then :p I do not think LC is a green, since I still disagree that he obviously had btsc with llama. I agree with Hanna that he is more likely on the team with the kill.
MovingPictures07 wrote:Why bea, splints?
She has been fairly inactive, yet survived landing on the hotel.
I need to go back over her to see if I see a possible TH connection there. Him having traded off a bunch of stuff is making sense to me. Although, could he have traded off properties as well?
Oh splintsy - don't mince words, I've been totally uncharacteristically inactive this game.

I've missed so many votes that if this were a sock game he would have killed me three cycles ago.

I've tried, but this is just too involved for me to say much intelligently about it. I've been having problems keeping up with the thread - much less checking out board movements and trying to think through all the implications that entails.

I survived the hotel stay exactly as I said.

When I replaced in - goosey hadn't spent a single penny of any of the money she started with as well as any rent she collected. I won that 7's thing and got a chunk of change and apparently I landed on Chance and got something from that. It was a pretty little chunk of change I would have seriously considered spending had I ever been around for anything that was ever going down.

Have you seen me bid on anything? Like at all? I know there's lots of bts bidding and trading going on, but I was not part of it.

I have no hidden properties. The only thing I own was the property I was given when goosey started this game.

Given what you know about me as a player and given how hard it was in the extra long K-site game for me to keep up, is it *really* that odd that I actually had enough money stockpiled from lack of involvement in the game to survive one hotel stay?

I can promise you if land on another, I won't be so lucky. :srsnod:
by bea
Wed Dec 10, 2014 8:24 pm
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Re: Monopoly Mafia [Day 12]

Ok. Hannah it is then.
by bea
Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:34 pm
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Re: Monopoly Mafia [Night 12]

So as.long.as.lorabs trade.is.good.we.are.all.good? I have nothing but.my starting.property to trade.
by bea
Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:44 pm
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Re: Monopoly Mafia [Night 12]

MovingPictures07 wrote:
bea wrote:So as.long.as.lorabs trade.is.good.we.are.all.good? I have nothing but.my starting.property to trade.
I believe Bass and I also have to trade something with you, but we'll see what boo says. If so, we can just trade something back and forth.
I don't.have.anything but.my role.property. I can trade.cash for.something you have.though.
by bea
Thu Dec 11, 2014 8:07 pm
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Re: Monopoly Mafia [GAME OVER]

Awesomeness!! Great game boo! This.just.proves.once.again that.LoRab is my.Mafia.good.luck.charm! Best.partner Ever!!

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