The Syndicate

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Sorry for not paying any attention to this game. Been involved with the Zelda game, and busy. Hoping to be able to look over everything and try and figure out how it works tonight

Long Con wrote:

S~V~S wrote:I asked this earlier, and I don't see that anyone has had an opinion of this~ what would benefit the known baddies, the rails/utilities, most? If we try to stay un-monopolized, or if we try to form monopolies?

Trying to find our teammates will hurt the baddies more, because it will tell some Civvies who other Civvies are, and they can defend each other.

If I am understanding this correctly though, it won't tell civvies who other civvies are, because they won't be civvies anymore though, yes?

I'm definitely searching.

Black Rock wrote:You guys sure like to keep it interesting... or distracting. We'll see how it goes.

haha I was just thinking this too

Oh shit. Good work guys. I forgot to change my board settings despite the nice reminder that had been sent out to do so. I'll change them now so I don't mess up again sorry boo!

Unless whoever wins it is railroad.

RIP SVS Killed early again

I think it's a very good point LoRab, and I agree with you. In another game (which I can't get into detail about since it is still going on), Elo's play style was described as that she typical "goes with the flow" on votes. So it is interesting that she chose not to do so in this game when we were lynching a baddie, and was the only vote on someone. Now I am unsure if that would be wise for her to do if her teammate was getting lynched, but it does seem weird to me since it is different then what was described as typical Elo to me.

thellama73 wrote:Also, Lorab's argument amounts to:
"If you disagree with me, you think I'm wrong. If I'm wrong, I must be stupid. Therefore, disagreeing with me is tantamount to calling me stupid."

That way, madness lies. We have to be able to disagree with each other, or else mafia has no point. Lighten up.

That's not generally how Lorab works. I'm not sure what happened there, but not sure I want to or to get involved

Also TH isn't generally one to call people stupid either. he likes games to be light and fun, and I don't see him taking it to a name calling level like that. Would have thought BR would have known him better then that.

I agree with the need to lighten up. This game is getting kind of tense already.

I don't see LC's baddie game at this point. Not saying I am the best at reading him, but I am just not seeing it.

Elohcin wrote:Lorab, please tell me where I defended Made in hopes that I could have BTSC with him? Where do you even get this kind of evidence that I am trying to get BTSC with him?

For the record, you are incorrect. I have no BTSC or connection to the baddies and have no desire for it.

Are you not searching for btsc?

I agree about Elo, juliets. I just don't see why she wouldn't vote Made, and how she is playing seems unlike what she herself has described to be a civvie her.
I found it interesting she said she doesn't have or want btsc. I had thought for a minute she might have gained it with Epig (why wouldn't they check each other first) so was giving her the benefit of doubt based on that, but if she doesn't have btsc still :/
He could still be just defending her based off knowing her well.

TH I have heard from keys.

Elohcin wrote:

fingersplints wrote:I agree about Elo, juliets. I just don't see why she wouldn't vote Made, and how she is playing seems unlike what she herself has described to be a civvie her.
I found it interesting she said she doesn't have or want btsc. I had thought for a minute she might have gained it with Epig (why wouldn't they check each other first) so was giving her the benefit of doubt based on that, but if she doesn't have btsc still :/
He could still be just defending her based off knowing her well.

TH I have heard from keys.

first of all, I didn't say I didn't want BTSC, I said I didn't want BTSC with BADDIES. And funny you mention Epi b/c that is the person I searched for first (sorry if I am not allowed to mention that.

I mentioned Epi because I assumed one of you checked the other and gained BTSC (based off how he seemed to be defending you). Like I had said "why wouldn't you?". I assumed most spouses would check one another Minus maybe the one who seems to be clearly against the civvie checking Now that I know you checked him, and still don't have BTSC it means he is defending you off of knowing you, which is nice to know but not infallible. You have said yourself you generally go with the flow in lynches. So you not voting made and trying to get juliets lynched is very sketchy to me. Juliets and BR have known each other for a while. I didn't read anything weird in their interaction.

And I do not think this is a baddie Lorab. I've played with her a bunch. I've hosted with her. I don't see a baddie her getting upset like this tbh.

Not working off much here, but don't want to miss a second vote. So I'm voting Elo now. Sorry guys for not being around much. Hopefully will have more time to commit to this in the next few days but wouldn't count on it.

Also, I should mention. I just don't want to vote FZ and I'm not going to vote someone just to get money. I have no idea if she is bad or not, but I asked her to play here because I wanted to play with her again and I got killed early in the game we were playing on another site. :/

Elohcin wrote:linki - splints, even if we both checked each other, if we aren't the same color we wouldn't gain btsc. I don't get why you assume we would. And when did he defend me. I didn't see that. If I had, I wouldn't have asked what he thought of my affiliation.

I didn;t assume you would get btsc if you weren't the same color. I thought he was defending you with his going at Lorab

linki yea Hedgeowl. I don't see how getting money is more important then finding baddies but I haven't been paying much attention to the money and haven't bid on anything anyways

ffs I want to post

RIP FZ

Hedgeowl wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:

keys56000000000 wrote: Hopefully FZ will flip civ.

0_0

indeed.

He probably is annoyed that the person his wife wanted him to meet and play a game with is getting lynched early for lame reasons.

Also, it could be this comment was pretty sarcastic. He says stuff like this all the time. If he was a baddie he would be much more careful.

RIPIYWG BR

Boogs wrote:Who says you wouldn't go rogue? You just admitted you have the second teammate. The powers anyone can buy, so who is to say your team can't eventually get kills yourself or a special power forming monopolies or the set besides you as well? Not to mention, when you have a set complete the rent is more AND you can buy hotels and houses making US pay more which results we die. So do we die by NKs or by going bankrupt by people like you who have your set complete?



See the dangers everyone????

Boogs, do you think that LC is in a two person set? Or that he found one btsc partner and is looking for more? Because if he is still looking for more, I don't see how he is a bigger threat then someone who might be a railroad. I'm just trying to understand you right because you seem fairly confident in this and I am not sure why

MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm not sure how I feel about this MM push. There are other players one could say are as equally contributing as MM.

Splints, can you tell me how you feel about keys at the moment, and vice versa?

What do players think of juliets?

I'm keeping my vote where it is.

I think keys is likely a civvie. His unified civvie theory and his comment about FZ make me believe so. I really cannot see any benefit for him to bring up such a plan if he was a baddie. He always posts very carefully, and almost over thinks his posts. I read that comment as sarcastic and one I think he would not likely make if he were bad.

I am also feeling alright about juliets so far this game. I feel like her name was thrown around in the beginning by players who don't understand how she plays, and I haven't seen anything indicative of a baddie juliets. She is a tricky one, but her responses have read genuine and helpful to me.

I'm not understanding the case on LC. Boogs pushing it seems incredibly sketchy. His motivation and suspicion seems unclear. I haven't had much time to read your posts about it tbh. I've had little time outside of work though, and what I had was focused on the Zelda game. Since I am no longer in that hopefully I can get my head fully into this one and look at that some.

thellama73 wrote:What about me, Splintsy-Splints? We could vote Boogs together and be Boogs-Murder-Best-Friends!

I am considering a vote for Boogs. Since his reasons seem insincere to me.

I am actually not sure how I feel about you yet. I don't have any reason to trust or not trust you. But if I understand the suspicion correctly, I don't think defending/agreeing with LC makes you bad either since we don't even know what he is yet. I'm not sure that btsc pairs would be so obvious with their connection tbh.

Long Con wrote:

fingersplints wrote:I'm not understanding the case on LC. Boogs pushing it seems incredibly sketchy. His motivation and suspicion seems unclear. I haven't had much time to read your posts about it tbh. I've had little time outside of work though, and what I had was focused on the Zelda game. Since I am no longer in that hopefully I can get my head fully into this one and look at that some.

I'm also thinking that those supporting it could have shady motives. I mean, they're actively pushing a plan that specifically advocates going after prize winners and Civvies who have found BTSC partners over looking for baddies.

I don't think they are ALL shady.
Boogs stuck out the most to me. I've skimmed MP's and they have seemed pretty rational. He does seem to be suspecting those who disagree, which is kind of funny given that I thought I had seen the main accusation about juliets seems to be unwillingness to see all sides of the situation. I don't think this makes him bad. I think this just makes him really confident in his accusations. I'm not sure I agree with his sentiments, but I can appreciate where he is coming from at least.
keys, I have already said, I think is a civvie. You can't really be surprised by him LC. He clearly was against the finding of civvie teammates from the start. Getting rid of someone who he knows has found btsc makes perfect sense to me.
Am I missing anyone?

Boogs wrote:Splints i am not being shady. I expressed my opinion on LC finding his teammate and possibly getting the third and start bankrupting us. A monopoly this early is just as dangerous as a mafia member. I am suggesting he could be bluffing also and is mafia. Its a win win for me and i stand by my decision regardless what other disagree with me on it. Im Civ and alone, and it makes most sense to cast my vote on LC. Not changing my mind.

I don't agree with you. If we find the mafia before everyone finds their btsc partners, people won't turn into indy LMS groups. It's a MAJOR IF people even find their groups. Searching for btsc is hard, and a lot of the time people never find who they are looking for. Taking out the mafia is priority to me. Also, maybe you guys should start bidding a little more responsibly if you are so worried about going bankrupt.

You say a monopoly this early is as dangerous as a mafia. It is unlikely there are monopolies this early. Possible. But unlikely. It is 100 % certain there are mafia.

S~V~S wrote:I was kinda trying to make a joke with you about you doing a bad job of it if you suspect me, but I guess that fell flat.

I got it.

Boogs wrote:Mp I feel like a total dumb cat. I re-ead and realized that Railroads Do NOT start with BTSC like mafia usually do, only the utilities do. So it makes total sense now Llama and LC are railroads and they found the third with the auto search. I was under the impression of normal rules that Baddies start with BtSC. I am on it now buddy and same page. Let's get them.

That seems incredibly lucky that they happened to find each other N1. And then just blatantly buddied up in the thread for no other reason then to flaunt their btsc. This doesn't fit the style of either of them.

It seems like you are changing why LC is bad to fit this. It doesn't make sense to me.

Also, I feel like this is incredibly distracting and that you have a one track mind at this point, which is keeping us away from discussing the rest of the players.

Boogs wrote:

fingersplints wrote:

S~V~S wrote:I was kinda trying to make a joke with you about you doing a bad job of it if you suspect me, but I guess that fell flat.

I got it.

Boogs wrote:Mp I feel like a total dumb cat. I re-ead and realized that Railroads Do NOT start with BTSC like mafia usually do, only the utilities do. So it makes total sense now Llama and LC are railroads and they found the third with the auto search. I was under the impression of normal rules that Baddies start with BtSC. I am on it now buddy and same page. Let's get them.

That seems incredibly lucky that they happened to find each other N1. And then just blatantly buddied up in the thread for no other reason then to flaunt their btsc. This doesn't fit the style of either of them.

It seems like you are changing why LC is bad to fit this. It doesn't make sense to me.

Also, I feel like this is incredibly distracting and that you have a one track mind at this point, which is keeping us away from discussing the rest of the players.

I'm keeping you from discussing? wow lol. Because you know I have a little voodoo doll controlling you and all in my left hand. You can do whatever the hell you want. I am bringing some real discussion on lynching rather than just everyone showing up to vote for the top voter because they are lazy like FZ yesterday. There have been plenty of other name mentioned to lynch Splints besides me suggesting LC. Don't get it twisted, sister.

This is an incredible overreaction.

Do you not think most of the discussion has centered around LC? llama being connected to LC? Who suspects LC and doesn't? Because, I do. I didn't say that has been ALL of the discussion, but a vast majority of the players are falling through the cracks.

Do you honestly not see why baddies would want to keep the conversation centered around a few individuals? With your little voodoo doll comment you are acting like this notion isn't something that comes up regularly in games.

Did I just show up to vote FZ? Here's a suggestion. Why don't we look at those players who did just show up to vote FZ and cared more about the money then lynching baddies, instead of this crusade you have started against players who bought something.

I was trying to entertain the fact that this might be a civvie you, but this defensiveness really isn't doing you any favors.

S~V~S wrote:Zeek has struck me as playing a very smooth, non spotlight style game. He is also not saying much of substance. I poked him twice, and his reaction was the same both times.

I think zeek mentioned in the last game that he has never been a baddie. So if anyone were to change up their playstyle, a first time baddie would likely be it.
I wish Rox were playing so I could ask her how this compares to the zeek she remembers. Maybe Hanna will be of some help here. I am not sure he is always as active as he was in Dr. Who though, or if it was because he really just likes Dr. Who.

Yes, SVS. Is late there, so would be interested in his responses to you another day. Problem is I am not sure who to vote for tonight.

I get the bwt suspicion, and I think it may be the best case presented. But he also sounds pretty sincere in his last plea.

Still not feeling great about Boogs, but he does get lynched a lot for saying weird shit. Not saying that makes him good, but it does make me a little more sympathetic to him.

@Boogs. DP never posts much, so this isn't weird for him. I think Degobunny said in the game on ksite that she is busy IRL.

juliets wrote:linki: Who is Bunny?

I figured Ash/Degobunny

MovingPictures07 wrote: I think Occam's Razor applies here. I'm still totally convinced that LC and Llama are bad news, and I will continue to try to get them lynched.

So, if one came back as good, that wouldn't change make you more hesitant about the other?
Also, if someone who once was a civvie but is now part of a LMS group is lynched, would we be told that or will it just appear the same? That's not really to you just in general idk if boo has already answered that

Thanks SVS. I figured someone had but couldn't remember the answer.

I wonder who quit

I'm going to vote for bwt. I don't want to split the votes any more, and I don't really see the case on the others. I am a sucker for the guilt trips, but baddies are as likely to give them as civvies are.

great result guys
and welcome Bea bye Mongoose.

why not hedgeowl? I don't mind being looked at because I don't have anything to hide, but I don't think your logic there makes sense. When did the lynch become inevitable? How come someone who admittedly isn't reading and just happened to vote a baddie gets a free pass from you? bwt seemed to resign himself to being lynched much earlier in the day, so it's just as likely his partner did too. Or maybe his partner isn't even around and that's why he seemed to give up so early.

bye Elo welcome back BR

linki

oh I missed the of haha

Hedgeowl wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

fingersplints wrote:why not hedgeowl? I don't mind being looked at because I don't have anything to hide, but I don't think your logic there makes sense. When did the lynch become inevitable? How come someone who admittedly isn't reading and just happened to vote a baddie gets a free pass from you? bwt seemed to resign himself to being lynched much earlier in the day, so it's just as likely his partner did too. Or maybe his partner isn't even around and that's why he seemed to give up so early.

bye Elo welcome back BR

linki

I neflected to put Hedgeowl into my post, although I meant to. Yes, she should definitely be looked at as well. Good point.

Does neflected = deflected+neglected?

Splints- how I am admittedly not reading? I thought I was admittedly reading...

Not you. SD said she wasn't going to catch up. So I'm curious how that became the cut off

can't votes be changed though? So I teammate could always vote early and change it if need be

*a teammate

thellama73 wrote:

fingersplints wrote:can't votes be changed though? So I teammate could always vote early and change it if need be

Yes, but given how this game encourages bandwagonry, I doubt that people would be likely to do that.

It's just he seemed pretty resigned here when he voted half an hour after SD did that he was going to be lynched:

birdwithteeth11 wrote:So I'm gone for 24 hours, Epig throws a case together on me, and now it looks like I'm about to be lynched?

I would defend myself, but I don't have the time right now. I'm way behind on something for work with training, and I need to spend most of tonight working on it. Unfortunately, all I can do is vote LC and hope I somehow survive (which doesn't look good for me at this point). I do find it funny that a lot of you think I've been participating quite a bit. I chalk this game up there with most of the ones where I'm barely participating due to lack of time to get involved.

But oh well. I guess it is what it is. All I have time for it to ask for one more day, and to give me a chance to answer for my actions once I have the time to do so.

It just seemed like there was a lot of time and a bunch of votes still out there. So its not impossible that his teammate and him decided around that time he was going to be lynched.

Like I said, I don't have a problem with looking at those votes. I know mine was legit, so it is possible one of the others was not. When I get home I will do the same and see if anything stands out to me.

I don't remember bwt mentioning suspicions of any of these people, but didn't in the Dr who game a baddie with info kind of out himself because of that? Since he hosted that game he might be a little more hesitant to suspect them.

and didn't he vote FZ? if so we know he voted for at least on person he knew to be civvie.

llama - I think the same people just seem to be around later at night

I was supportive of Boogs suspicion before, but I laid off him some because I do feel bad for him getting lynched a lot for saying some weird things. But I think Epig brings up good points to link him to bwt. I'm curious to how he responds to these.

thellama73 wrote:Points to bea for posting 11 times in a row.

$10 on rob.

$25 on rob

thellama73 wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

bea wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Points to bea for posting 11 times in a row.

$10 on rob.

what - I'm just trying to catsup as fast as I can - and this vote ends sat?? fuck's sake. I'll keep doing my best to keep reading

Not sure why you had to shut her down

I see that I was misunderstood. The word "points" in my post was meant to convey the concept of awarding points for an achievement. "You win! Point to you!"

I did not mean "indicating with the index finger in an accusatory manner."

I apologize for the miscommunication.

lol I read it like you intended, so I was confused by Bea's reaction. Glad that is all cleared up.

I thought hedgeowl surviving was weird, but was waiting to see what her response was first. I think her and Boogs are both good lynch candidates for today.

If hedgeowl is a railroad, then it makes it all the more interesting that thellama tried to draw attention to me and TH for late votes, but left off hedgeowl.

thellama73 wrote:Fingersplints, you sly-boots. I'm going to use my rob to rob you.
$75 for the rob

If I stop biddng on it, will you rob someone else?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:What's happened to MP?

And where's keys? He seems to have disappeared after the Day 1 union discussion. I miss him.

Is keys a she?

does he sound girly

I'm actually around all day today!
I agree with all of this. It seems like she would be trying to defend herself a little harder if she was a civvie, but almost like she knows there isn't really a way she can do so, so has just given up. So I will vote her now as well.

keys56000000000 wrote:$400 on the rob

$410 on rob

hedgeowls lunch is cute.
Almost to the end of the lynch. Why is it so quiet? Really surprised more people haven't shown up

keys56000000000 wrote:$470 rob

I wish you would actually play this game if you are going to work this hard to take this away from me

480 rob